[Mario Kart Wii TAS] Mushroom Cup No-Glitch

Of course this isn't e really optimized TAS i still have to figure out how to get live replay properly to work so it doensn't desyncs and have to learn how RNG in this game really works but it seems like that i will be able to do a proper, optimized grand prix TAS soon

[@campbellblock3061]

I've always thought that you could dodge a pow by hopping at the right moment, but I could never pull it off

[@MarioCarter]

Campbell Mop You gotta use the trick action to dodge it

[@campbellblock3061]

@@MarioCarter Using the wheelie input on a ground surface during a pow will do a "pow dodge," but you will still lose some speed and lose your item. In this case, he was apparently able to hop at a precise time to dodge the pow by being in midair. You aren't normally able to do this humanly since the pow effect occurs over several frames.

[@mandywatson2084]

it’s not that hard

[@seasonally.]

Its not the hop that dodges it, its the microbounce from the track that gives u enough air

[@wrth]

If you use wiimote then you just shake everytime for basically anything

[@JustKamOLD]

For everyone wondering how he dodge the pow block. First he did a mini hop at the exact moment the pow block hit ever driver. The damage time for the pow block is longer than a single mini hop. That's why when he landed he spent 1-2 frames in the ground and got a bounce from the track. The time he was in the ground was so short it couldn't calculate to where he would be affected. Pretty smart move if you ask me. That takes a lot of time to pull off

[@pp-wr7kw]

David from Wii Sports why aren’t you in wii sports

[@ringss_]

@@pp-wr7kw hes retired

[@maxd1744]

David from Wii Sports unless youre a tas

[@elromano6261]

Thanks David

[@justmason4587]

Why does everyone have trouble with doing it, I did it my 3rd try

[@ZachCalin_]

Woah that was a cool pow dodge in LC

[@maxtamer6741]

Yh didn't realise that was possible?

[@ZachCalin_]

@@maxtamer6741 I've never seen it lol

[@spyfox260]

Cant say I've seen that either, very neat

[@gdcraig4wr843]

I know I only knew you could dodge pows by shaking the Wii mote, I play with the Wii wheel lol

[@iP0STcomments]

i do that sometimes in actual races, gotta be frame perfect

[@roycejeffries4543]

0:56

[@JaydenlIl]

*0:54

[@ringss_]

i never knew that was possible

[@koreanpandas]

I used to do this before I knew how to pow dodge

[@ClosedDoor35]

I accidentally clicked on your channel and I am not disappointed.

[@campbellblock3061]

Imagine if you got 2 stars

[@ABC-ik9vj]

@@harrisonmoore3841 fuck you

[@myristicina.]

Lucky .?. Calm tf down

[@harrisonmoore3841]

I previously said it was an underrated comment, but it got more likes later.

[@DKGamesBS]

Two stars..... RAGEEEE

[@pokelordomega1701]

* R E E E E E E Ə*

[@emilioquirozxdrevers9187]

Mom: You have 8:00 minutes tu play Me:

[@linojiaqischuhmann3398]

to

[@sal40151]

@@joep2199 for loading the game up

[@past1704]

0:56 WHAAAAAT?!!!! HOW DID YOU...?!!!!!!

[@rokakaka_man4575]

I think (not sure) that he hopped at the right time

[@jayandthejets]

this was a tas, a hacking speedrun pretty much.

[@Kiesling69]

Dat one Gamer. you can shake the Wii mote at a precise timing than you Dodge the pow . TAS is not cheating !

[@jtris01]

If he did dodge it he would have blue waves around him, what he did was jump frame perfect so they wouldn't get affected.

[@deester7914]

lmao nerd I’m pretty sure he was elevated off the ground at just the right moment to avoid it. TAS is wack

[@connoranderson2494]

This looks very unoptimized. Is this a prelim?

[@MKgumba]

yes, i would be really unfortunate to optimize it very much just to figure out that it desyncs in the first minute, soon i will be able to do a proper TAS I added the description now, hope it makes things more clear.

[@beta511ee4]

Connor Anderson How can you tell?

[@synthesiageek4667]

@@beta511ee4 if it was optimized, in theory a bot could get hit while holding a star and drop it for him, or he could hit dropped by a CPU, etc. This requires stupid rng manipulation but technically its still imoptimized.

[@alex2005z]

@@synthesiageek4667 and mushroms in perfect positions too

[@SeanWuzntHear]

Now this is what I call quality content. If you TAS the full Grand Prix you will be a goddamn legend

[@MKgumba]

thank you ^^ i really consider it to be honest, but don't have too high hopes

[@francescovolpini]

@@MKgumba you definitely are up to it. especially with the latest improvements :)

[@andra7814]

Me: sees this and plays Mario Kart again... Also me: struggels on 100cc

[@groovefallsdown]

yay finally a real gp tas, when you did the older tas gp video and ended it in mg shock i was mad xd good job, very impressive

[@dorukayhanwastaken]

The year is 20RR. Everyone drives Flame Runner as Funky Kong at TAS levels of perfection. Because of this, the winner of a race depends solely on the starting grid and item RNG. The RNG manipulation metagame has evolved to ridiculous levels due to it being the only remaining factor to decide races.

[@Dimitri_gdr]

😂 It's after melee year 20XX

[@Psychomaniac14]

did you just... dodge a pow... by hopping...

[@nikoflow_fm9541]

ive seen it happen a few times

[@ryanolsen294]

When?

[@crack4184]

@Samuel Cimpean In this run, he hopped at the very last frame

[@notjerome6686]

@Samuel Cimpean In the game if u shake or use d-pad to dodge a pow it will take away the item

[@pokelordomega1701]

@Samuel Cimpean that's how normal players dodge. But TAS isn't a normal player.

[@デトロイト-w3s]

グランプリのTASは初めて見た！ 出来たらUltra Short CutをしたグランプリTASもして欲しい

[@fergus2224]

Late, but would spear be fastest in the 3 beginning tracks to compensate for TF?

[@pokelordomega1701]

Sure, but how do you even steer with that thing?

[@morris1818]

5:47 what are the extra hops for?

[@MKgumba]

The speed from the conveyor belt stays a bit longer if you do this

[@morris1818]

Ah, that's interesting. Thanks for the reply.

[@ABC-ik9vj]

@@MKgumba Nice TAS'ES, ur have any discord?

[@Sietpo]

Lucky .?. English 100

[@ABC-ik9vj]

@@Sietpo yo thanks, It would be fantastic if I asked

[@NPC-l6c]

YES u finally did this please make this a series or something

[@theaveragejoe___]

Yeah with a glitch version, a shortcut version, and all the cups.

[@MKgumba]

we'll see

[@kellamyoshikage286]

Seeing this makes me sad that there isn't any kind of ridiculously in-depth coverage of all the aspects of this game, like there is with, say, Super Mario 64. In the latter there's a mostly complete description of how even things like butterflies behave in-game, with varying levels of exhaustive explanations and/or detailed graphics used to explain each point. Then here in MK Wii I'm not even sure how VR gains or losses are calculated besides "it uses Elo", nor any idea how the rounding errors that occasionally pop up come about, and a lot of explanations of various mechanics I've seen here and there have been "we think it's like this other thing that we have seen because it makes sense for the devs to have copied that". Most notably here, my working understanding of ranking criteria for 3 stars involves some list of times which will shift up or down based on your performance in the race, which are compared to your ending time; but not only does this strike me as dumb, I have very limited faith in that idea as it apparently just comes from Double Dash with no confirmation for the Wii case. That, and I don't know what kind of frame window the pow hop would involve (which would otherwise tell me whether it's feasible humanly and what to practice for if so) and don't have the faintest idea of how to guess on what the AI or doing. All these small parts of this game have just... never been clearly explored anywhere to my knowledge.

[@SteeredBeast]

What a tasty tas xD Good work!

[@May95348]

Dude, he even caught up with the racers who were last--

[@pokelordomega1701]

I wish I could lap them, but I'm too slow

[@sharmanofthewhills2578]

The mushroom gorge pow dodge, lucky

[@MKgumba]

well not really, i had to not get the shroom at the cave beginning and do a bad gap jump so it didn't hit me

[@invalid2410]

Would kill to see a 100% TAS but ik the amount of patients that would take would be insane

[@roycejeffries4543]

Interesting triple hops on TF. Why is that faster? CPU rng manipulation?

[@MKgumba]

speedometer showed that it was faster than just a drift with the hops it was 102 km/h at the first hop, 92 at the second and 87 at the third, drift speed is 84 or 85, but i'm not actually sure if its's useful, i will ask the other tasers foor opinions

[@TASPlasma]

It preserves your speed from the conveyor

[@michaellyga4726]

not even the cpu rubberbanding can catch up with the power of TAS

[@myristicina.]

I wish I could play Mario kart like this 😭

[@ExWifeHaver287]

You do know this guy went frame by frame and program to each movement right? That’s what a TAS is it’s a tool assisted speed run

[@gwroliver3540]

Git gud

[@diegislac5116]

Noob SlayerYT i think the point they were trying to make is that they could be as close to tas perfection as possible

[@aidanhennessey5586]

Why’d you go for the item box at the beginning of lap 3 TF?

[@1008OH]

Maybe to manipulate item RNG to not get a blue shell/lightning

[@death0910]

My man pulling triple shrooms in third

[@bsmoove57453]

The Mushroom Gorge Gap Jump while the POW was coming was cool. I thought it would've made you spin without losing speed when you landed if you know what I'm saying. You were in the air though so ultimately you dodged it.

[@nintentothomasproductions879]

HOW DID THIS MAN NOT GET BLUESHELLED?! HOW?!?

[@MKgumba]

Because i did redo the whole run when that happened

[@seb3082]

How come there was no lightning or blue spiny shells the entire time?

[@MKgumba]

Because when there was one, i did redo a big part of the current track to avoid it.

[@pokelordomega1701]

2fast4u

[@aidanhennessey5586]

About 0:56 1. Can this normally be done or was the downhill slope or some kind of bounce a necessary aspect? 2. If it can always be done, how precise it it? Frame perfect? 2 frames?

[@cannorsc.4554]

It’s frame perfect, like you need to get within 3 frames of it damaging the other players, then while doing a wheelie, hop at the exact moment.

[@kshunmkw2864]

5:47 🥰

[@mahirrahman8070]

how did you know you were gonna get triple mushroom in the first race? from my understanding of TAS bots you write the code and the computer does it but if you got another item I'm assuming it wouldn't work, or was it RNG based?

[@MKgumba]

I tried so long until i got triple shrooms you can watch malleos MKW TAS tutorial, he explains really good how tasing works. There is no bot or code writing for mkw tasing

[@mahirrahman8070]

@@MKgumba thanks, I'll check it out

[@Phreak0matic]

Awesome work, this can't have been easy

[@ExWifeHaver287]

It wasn’t easy but not in the way you think. This guy would frame by frame and programmed each movement. That’s what a TAS is,A tool assistant speed run

[@Phreak0matic]

@@ExWifeHaver287 yeah, I'm aware, thanks

[@flagsssnope8477]

I love it

[@DiskArk]

COM｢よっしゃPOW使ったろ｣ ゴリラ｢崖越え中ですがなにか？｣

[@ハリネズミ-n8z]

Disk Ark ルイージーサーキットの小ジャンプでpowかわすのうまずぎw

[@benjamingoldstein14]

> still gets a 2-star tank

[@brunomcleod]

Why did you need to hop three times at 6:24?

[@sircroc7318]

Bruno McLeod I think fore momentum

[@hankbishopp8774]

The conveyer belt speed carry’s over

[@lukeplaysclash7694]

Would it be possible to clip the 3 rd mushroom on mushroom gorge instead of skipping it...and get a trick boost without being launched back in the air?...like at 4:57

[@MKgumba]

Yes, but that is slower

[@lilmareofficial]

With what controller you drive? I drive with ps4 controller

[@MKgumba]

Keyboard and mouse

[@lilmareofficial]

@@MKgumba bruh

[@MKgumba]

@@lilmareofficial Well on the Wii with wheel but i do TAS on the pc haha

[@lilmareofficial]

@@MKgumba Can you Help me to play online? I get error Code 23913

[@arandomperson8343]

Mare Mkwii online got shut down You would need to have CTGP and have played for a week to be able to use online again

[@H.M._]

Just imagine reaching the 12th place in 1st place.... Just how o-º

[@DKGamesBS]

I know this be TAS but it takes me many tries just to get one 3 star on a map. This man just slapped me and said “Get TASed”

[@MKgumba]

Yeah it's a real struggle to get 3 stars in mkw, but try doing a halfway optimized tas on a track just to have a shock hit you in lap 3 and you have to redo all again. that really sucks xd

[@tin9558]

i was always waiting

[@MKgumba]

Yeah sorry, it's not that easy to not get a desync but i figured it out with the help of other tasers and soon i will properly do more tases like this, much more optimized

[@tin9558]

@@MKgumba i love you fromJapan

[@koreanpandas]

5:18 Chad soundz

[@EvanTX35]

this is too good lmao

[@村井惇基]

上手すぎー😮

[@7k_VNix]

*UmM yOu MiSpElLeD mUsHrOoM*

[@bgys8740]

How can you predict the cpu items and your items? I mean, this is a TAS, everything should be perfect

[@alex2005z]

Because luck in games isnt a thing. Its just a combination of factors we cannot control, but a TAS can.

[@パ天-u8g]

powブロック無効化わろた

[@あうあうえへへ]

人間でもできるで

[@lelysio5688]

This tas is already pretty great but i Think it can become better ;) (Also a hint: its mushroom not muhsroom cup)

[@PlebBora]

lol

[@ThePoe65]

i always wonder how the cpus never get a blue shell or a shock

[@MKgumba]

When they did, i had to redo the race so they wouldn't get one.

[@GreatFairy718]

You should Tas 32 tracks but in a random order

[@kadens]

Lies. They were no blue shells.

[@MKgumba]

Cool

[@kadens]

Ikr you always get blued like 90 times

[@MKgumba]

@@kadens rng manipulation, kinda what do you mean with "lies" btw?

[@kadens]

It was supposed to be a joke. Since like cpus always blue you 3 times on a track it seems.

[@ABC-ik9vj]

@@kadens coward

[@bretone9673]

Why were there no blue shells?

[@ahyes6424]

TiMe FoR oNlInE mUlTiPlAyEr

[@arturboleite]

Rank: ⭐️⭐️

[@cannorsc.4554]

What I don’t understand is, where was the blue shell during all of this, it always gets me as soon as I begin to pull away.

[@ringss_]

i was gonna say strategic items but them i realized this is gp mode so now i have no clue

[@maxd1744]

Rings he prob just autorestarted the tas for couple hours till he got rng

[@gwroliver3540]

RNG manipulation

[@eg-fi3ju]

Try to do a perfect cup (1st place whole time, no off road, maximum tricks, maximum boost pads and every shortcut)

[@Ghost88320]

NOT A SINGLE BLUE SHELL???

[@Hiko_ki_gumo]

ルイージスタジアムただのTAで草

[@魔剤-i9m]

積乱雲 ︎︎

[@mattiamarcuzzo9673]

How years of training??

[@sircroc7318]

did the randomnes work by inputs?

[@Bup64]

I thought that rubberbanding at the start would be faster as more shortcuts are available. (e.g. Losing 2 Sec for getting triple shrooms to then gain 3-4 sec by using them)

[@15foxa19]

Bup 64 - キノピオ not on moo moo meadows

[@15foxa19]

Bup 64 - キノピオ and i would also agree not on toad factory as the shortcut can be done shroomless

[@stornax3789]

Bro I play mariokart wii from 10 years and I never know how to make à wheeling with a side car Sorry for m'y english I dont speak very well

[@alex2005z]

You cant whelie with karts

[@nitrobozo4464]

On mg you dont need mushrooms you can do the shroomless wallride

[@MKgumba]

nah that counts as glitch, dont ask me why, mkw categories are f'd up

[@naku--]

gg 3 stars

[@MKgumba]

thx

[@pokeval]

WR

[@mkw_andre]

👀

[@vqlt]

André Cardoso holy shit its the legend

[@バッタバッタ-i7y]

What is the controller use ？

[@MKgumba]

keyboard, mouse and tas input

[@Me37368]

Is everything in here RTA viable?

[@MKgumba]

most of it except some rapid fire hop low tricks on some ramps

[@bozan9136]

OG

[@Toadstar0]

Michi reminds me of a geometry dash player, i know its a long shot, but was your username ever Michigun? Lol

[@MKgumba]

no

[@jungleparkway]

@@MKgumba is Michi your IRL name or a pseudonym?

[@MKgumba]

@@jungleparkway Real name, it's short for Michael

[@thomasthetanderloin]

triple mushroom in third, isn't that a bit much?

[@MKgumba]

I wasn't first when i got them so nah haha

[@poszom8923]

This doesn't look like a tas since you knew exactly when the pow was coming on LC and on moo moo meadows you know what your items are and where you put them

[@MKgumba]

What do you mean?

[@poszom8923]

@@MKgumba The tas dodged the pow at the right time, although it could have happened any time

[@MKgumba]

@@poszom8923 Yes, i dodged it because i can use savestates slow down and frame advance, so when the pow block came, i loaded a previous savestate and frame advance to dodge the pow block.

[@poszom8923]

@@MKgumba ok then

[@xSoporific1]

Why does everyone like using funky Kong in this game?

[@MKgumba]

Because he has the most speed of the heavy characters

[@ryry..]

He has the best speed and motor

[@mr.hippopotamus1792]

@@ryry.. and voice

[@whitenova505]

How do you get TAS to work with mkwii?

[@Nolan2448]

Dolphin Emulator

[@mopp9054]

Are there any tricks to avoid dsync?

[@froschgrosch5247]

to avoid DeSinc? no...

[@PlebBora]

Is there an RNG manipulation on MG? You got triple shrooms in third.

[@MKgumba]

yes? i did manipulate rng to get triple shrooms, but you can always get tripple shrooms in third

[@SAWYERFAN.1]

3:37 did u just get 3 shrooms as 3rd? how the fuck

[@alex2005z]

Its either rng manipulation or just trying until getting it. Keep in mind this is a TAS

[@Kierio04]

Tell me how to do live replay now

[@MKgumba]

you're in the discord channel, there are a shit ton of people who could help you more than i could to, i'm not really good at explaining

[@mrbear9586]

5:09 ルイージの声

[@Thor44155]

Rapid fire hop is a glitch

[@josephbarthley]

What is TAS

[@MKgumba]

"A tool-assisted speedrun or tool-assisted superplay (TAS) is a set sequence of controller inputs used to perform a task in a video game. The input sequence is usually created by emulating the game and using tools such as slow motion, frame-by-frame advance, memory watch, and save states to create an extremely precise series of inputs. The idea is not to make gameplay easier for players, but rather to produce a demonstration of gameplay that would be practically impossible for a human player. Tool-assisted speedruns often feature gameplay that would otherwise be impossible or prohibitively difficult to perform in real time. Producers of tool-assisted speedruns do not compete with "unassisted" speedrunners of video games; on the contrary, collaborative efforts between the two groups often take place. " -Wikipedia

[@infeernoo9b]

0:55 ?!!!? What ?!?!?

[@aznmoviecritic1802]

Hi sorry I was just wondering if you had a chance to talk to me today and,🎉 thanks for your help and support for me

[@MKgumba]

what support?

[@urboi4719]

I mean it aint that hard to dodge a pow block whats the big deal

[@justathought2687]

Mitchell Warrick tas

[@jungleparkway]

First! :D

[@MKgumba]

Blue shell >:)

[@lucaesposito7855]

Are You An italian guy?

[@MKgumba]

no

[@erm_5557]

I feel like this wasn't perfect and could be better optimized. With more rng manip

[@MKgumba]

The description is there for a reason.

[@たぁぷ]

powって、ミニジャンプしたら何もアイテム落とさないの？

[@ごく普通の13歳の視点]

浮いてればパウは無効になりますよ！

[@arthurculiing]

Oi '-'

[@dksc4life]

No offense but this is bad. I have a wife and kids that don’t love me anymore

[@inky5746]

Your time 1:10,

[@KondorXT]

0:55 how the fuck

[@강민성-h3y]

버그판이나??

[@tatsumarenakiyama8631]

わ

[@satoukibi100]

as if TA

[@MKgumba]

k

[@ZEMAD4MFNT]

Imagine if you got 3 stars

[@benu9469]

100/150/50cc ??

[@MKgumba]

150

[@benu9469]

Oh ok... wow you're insane bro