Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Any% in

[@barlb0se301]

It’s so nostalgic seeing that opening seen lol I remember being a kid and being confused for like 3 hours in that beginning world where to go. Then all of a sudden I’ve spent hours upon hours every day for months and I’ve finished the game. The amount of nostalgia I have for it is crazy.

[@SansIsLost]

Sammeee

[@mrmatt7246]

Yeah, I spent 70+ hours playing through the game

[@ocarinaot452]

Walls are just a suggestion

[@fennemon]

Wait till you see a Paper Jam speedrun

[@IvanFranco120]

LOL.

[@FullArcher05]

Merely a recommendation

[@philiphanhurst2655]

That final timestamp is amazing. "Sal didn't save Pi'illo island from Antasma in time, making him tonight's big loser"

[@lukeap_1]

The moment I saw them running through walls I was asking myself whether this game or Paper Jam was more broken. The Simple answer: yes.

[@OrionAltHist]

Now let's seem that do that with BIS.

[@OrionAltHist]

Paper Jam is much more broken.

[@SuperDZ555]

“Which is more broken? Dream Team or Paper Jam?” yes “Uh, what..?” *y e s*

[@lightningmcseed7303]

I'd say equal because they presumably use the same engine. The remake games are a slightly different situation though as they use 2D sprites for the environments like the GBA/DS games instead of 3D environments like the mainline 3DS games.

[@goldflowergamer3139]

I think Paper Jam is more broken, since that game has been reduced down to under an hour for speedruns, while this game still sits at 4+ hours for an Any% Speedrun alone

[@Snoion]

This run was fairly decent; the largest mistakes include: Encounter in Dreamy Dozing Sands (20 Seconds) Encounter in Dreamy Driftwood Shore (35 seconds) Missing first try Dreamy Bowser Walk-Through Air (25 Seconds) Two extra encounters in Dreamy Bowser’s Castle (1 minute 30 seconds) Somewhat bad Antasma RNG (1 minute 30 seconds

[@theomoriceau5362]

Pourra tu faire un speedrun sur mario et luigi bowser inside story ?

[@Foski1234567890]

Idk why u press home from tha antasma ball attack that is easy to dodge

[@Pixiuchu]

You lost 30 seconds or something in the clipout for Walk through Air before Mt. Pajamaja too :)

[@TheWayfaringFox]

@@Pixiuchu Yo that's fucking wild, but I don't remember him asking for a reply on an old video.

[@Pixiuchu]

@@TheWayfaringFox Kinda rude, don't you think? The video/run here is still the current world record, and I noticed that he was stating time losses smaller than the clipout, so I added that as information, because this video is still relevant for this game, and if anyone wants to attempt to do a speedrun and beat the world record themselves, it serves as extra information for them, too. As old as this video is, it is still relevant! :)

[@l3xi_con]

wow. congrats! i love this game, and seeing that it's been finished under 5hrs is mindblowing considering how long it is...

[@OrionAltHist]

Well, those speedrunners just use these weird glitches to skip practically all of the game.

[@johanlopez7507]

If I were to record the WHOLE game in one go how long would it take me?

[@dio6639]

@@johanlopez7507 Like if You play normally Without stop 10-12 Hours

[@kingpo1131]

Watched the Superstar saga speedrun and it was 1:14:00 yet it took me 3 hours to get 1/4 into the game.These Glitches and time saves are nuts

[@SuperDZ555]

@IIvgmII Oh, so THATS why I didn’t beat the game in three days with a casual playthrough!

[@thetwofacedassassin75]

Some of these glitches thoroughly confused me

[@Pixiuchu]

Ho boy you haven't seen the newest edition to the run yet hehe. The new skip alone is far more confusing than everything in the old route (this run) combined. And it's hard! You won't understand much of what we're doing by just watching lol. You really have to have a good grasp of how the game's cutscenes work to be able to understand what we're doing. Edit: a new skip was found that saves half an hour lol

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Pixiuchu Doesn't it also skip most of the game's bosses etc tho, kinda like how that action command glitch from Superstar Saga basically skips the whole game? Also, do you happen to know if there are any glitchless hard mode speedruns of this game?

[@OrionAltHist]

Well the ppl that make vids like this have _way_ too much time on their hands.

[@Pixiuchu]

@@OrionAltHist I completely missed this due to you having commented during a time where I had like 100 replies lol oops, sorry. This game does skip pretty much all the bosses, yeah. We do everything normally until we reach Mushrise Park. Once we reach Mushrise Park, we do these fights in order: Thorbs, Capnaps and Sandoons (the latter to get Mini and Mole Mario) Elite Trio Pi'illodium Zeekeeper Dreamy Bowser We skip... Grobot Dreamy Capnaps Bowser & Antasma Torkscrew Robo-Drilldigger (as of the new route (newer than this speedrun here)) The four Hooraws Big Massif Mammoshka Mt. Pajamaja Bandit Thieves R Grobot X Wiggler & Popple Earthwake Kamek 1, 2 and 3 Giant Bowser (as of the new route) Antasma (as of the new route) So uhm. Yeah. We skip a lot of bosses. :) I don't know anyone else who did Normal or Hard Mode speedruns, but I myself did a "Glitchless Normal Mode" run once, though it was rejected due to not having full video (doesn't mean I didn't do it however): www.speedrun.com/mldt/run/m31loedz I also do want to route Hard Mode Any% one day, dunno how that'll go.

[@officialmoai3107]

This is a trip down memory lane, very well done run, this guy deserves more subs. This glitch at 2:01:48 confuses me a lot.

[@OrionAltHist]

It's rly impressive how he managed to make quick work of these brutal bosses tho

[@owlsarecool7660]

3:06:36 theres those pieces you definitely collected And that guy you definitely met

[@stupid104]

since i am playing the game and not have gone that far, can you show me the points in the speedrun where you meet the pillow boy and the items ya need

[@DaAlexSeed]

@@stupid104 how about you actually play the game

[@stupid104]

@@DaAlexSeed i am in the process of it. btw that response was pretty rude

[@Pvt.N00B]

@@stupid104 ikr lmao

[@Pixiuchu]

@@stupid104 We do not revive him nor do we ever collect any of the pieces. We just go straight to the cutscene and, because it is not possible to go there without glitches, the game doesn't check if you have everything. The only reason we talk to him here is because he's kind of in our way and, unless we can clip out of bounds from the right or get WtW, it won't be possible to skip his cutscene.

[@waterlessant5355]

When you clip through a wall, mario and luigi speaks to the walls

[@IvanFranco120]

😅

[@stikosho7251]

The nostalgia...

[@あつ森紹介班]

俺もそう思う。懐かしいよね

[@pretends2know]

I am sad that doing a side hammer swing in the Super Bowser fight is not the fastest opening move for that fight. That was my favorite thing to do in this game.

[@derdemonkater662]

2:04:03 Luigi u okay?

[@oddowl9878]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he at some point equipped the DoB items and always had his 3ds date on his birthday.

[@Snoion]

Nope those items don’t work correctly sadly or we would definitely use them hah

[@vr8652]

@@Snoion why wouldn't they work? Do the glitches surpass their ability to work, I don't understand why they wouldn't work?

[@LordMagecar]

@@vr8652 I guess what he means is that their description is slightly misleading. It says that it increases your striking power by 400%, but it actually only increases the power of the boots/hammer by 400%, so it goes from 30 to 150. This is as strong as Hiking Boots, which we get, and much stronger than any other boots that we get during the run, but the problem is that the birthday gear is insanely out of the way. Birthday Boots require 450 Expert Challenge points (we get like 50), and Birthday Hammer requires beating Dreamy Mushrise Park.

[@vr8652]

@@LordMagecar oh ok. I've never really been a person who invests their time into making the most out of their stats. Most of the time its because I don't fully comprehend what the stat bonuses mean and their effectiveness.

[@mr.monkey6012]

This was such a long game from what I remember as a kid.

[@Charaster]

Mate that is almost the time it took me too beat partners in time!

[@flematptkd5570]

It was recorded with a capture board, so you could see Dream Adventure briefly and comfortably.

[@tyronecrossman5014]

If you get the gold and miracle badges you can freeze dreamy bowser’s arms from blocking your attacks. I did it in my old save file

[@regalpanda4224]

The mario and Luigi games are always super fun to play.Not sure if I could ever pick a favorite one.

[@landoncuddy834]

Thanks for this vid. I'm practicing speedrunning this game and I now know what route to take

[@LONGshot-tf8cf]

getting through the tutorials must have been painful

[@IvanFranco120]

Yeah, and some of them is really slow. Though some of these can be skipped by either glitching through walls or by passing them vía option if there's an unskipalbe one.

[@NamekianG]

Never imagined that an M&L RPG speedrun could be cool, but here we are. Dang this game is broken 😂

[@detectiveg7885]

Paper jam : laughs in dream team

[@OrionAltHist]

Well, those speedrunners just use cheap glitches to basically skip the whole game.

[@NamekianG]

@@OrionAltHist That would be fast, so I don't see your issue

[@OrionAltHist]

@@NamekianG it's kinda silly rly

[@OrionAltHist]

@@NamekianG oh and why aren't there any hard mode glitchless speedruns of this game

[@subgodpumpkin1178]

How the hell does this guy stay calm in Antasma??? I’d panic if I had 78 hp

[@einfachnurarty]

Same lol, how???

[@OrionAltHist]

@@einfachnurarty Imagine trying to beat him at like lvl 15 on hard mode tho. That would be impossible.

[@OrionAltHist]

@@armandogonzalez2289 idk - well more than normal and also higher def

[@OrionAltHist]

@@armandogonzalez2289 probably around the same amount but much higher def

[@Pixiuchu]

@@OrionAltHist Challenge accepted.

[@SuperDZ555]

5:53 why is it an orange circle and a blue x instead of a green check and a red x

[@TheAmazingRaptor]

Japanese version

[@Garnishing]

The ground is a suggestion too.

[@DaAlexSeed]

This looks damn good as a whole. Great job on the run, man!

[@carterferris07]

I don’t know if this is true but do they still sell Nintendo games in Korea?

[@carterferris07]

Snoion So I wasn’t being stupid.

[@bemington]

And i thought paper jam was glitchy It still is but this is the draw back of having 3D environments

[@mr.productions327]

No paper jam is worse

[@tjeffersonb]

This is the first run to go below 5 hours. That’s at least a 10/11 minute PB, likely more. So either this game has a TINY speed running community, or this is hella impressive.

[@OrionAltHist]

also, yk a hard mode glitchless run of this game would be ... interesting

[@tjeffersonb]

Orion: Alternate History hell yeah it would be. It would also be long probably

[@OrionAltHist]

@@tjeffersonb also some bosses on that mode have like these timed sections & healing spells, so some of them aren't even possible on normal mode while this underleveled. Something also of note about this game is that your damage depends more on your level than most equipment - e.g. you'd apparently be doing around 50% more damage at lvl 22 compared to lvl 17

[@OrionAltHist]

​@@tjeffersonb An all bosses run of this game would also be pretty interesting

[@tjeffersonb]

@@OrionAltHist the question is, are the X bosses included? Edit; guess they would have to be in order to reach Bowser Jr. boss

[@carterferris07]

When you practice speedruns, do you ever try to do the speedrun route as casually as possible?

[@Snoion]

Yes that is exactly what I do!

[@ndslml]

i never expected korea langage ㅇㅁㅇ

[@SueZQue83]

This game took me 23:46:00

[@Luigigamer-wn3nb]

Good job, you beat it in less that a day! (In time. Unless you played nonstop?)

[@sansmauvaisjeuxdemots1144]

Why you don't get "excellent" to jump to the little ennemies, its more fast like this ?

[@Snoion]

Yeah it’s actually based on hits, and failing the jump doesn’t count but getting okay does!

[@sansmauvaisjeuxdemots1144]

@@Snoion okay 😇 thank you very much

[@Pixiuchu]

​@@Snoion So I just tested and found out that failing the jump absolutely counts. I defeat the first Gromba in 6 turns, so do you. Not sure where you got the idea of it not counting lol

[@Snoion]

@@Pixiuchu Ah well it's been a while since I played the game, there's less risk going for "OK"s than I thought. It's slower either way but thanks for the clarification!

[@mclk1966]

Still waiting for mario rpg 6 played all of them :(

[@Luigigamer-wn3nb]

U only have to wait a few more months

[@thehawkturnal4903]

How did you do the wakeport skip to have the brothers show up?

[@davyjones3105]

Hey how come we don’t get any TASes for 3DS games like these?

[@kyfrworth7491]

These games are usually very long and people don’t have the time or dedication to TAS it

[@davyjones3105]

@@kyfrworth7491 oh.

[@davyjones3105]

@@kyfrworth7491 Well people had time to TAS the other Mario & Luigi RPGs. And I know for a fact that 3DS games can be TAS’d now.

[@lucas_gaming2734]

Am I the only one that Watched the whole thing

[@RhynoSubs]

I did it too, it took me like 7 days

[@lucas_gaming2734]

Rhyno took me 1 day I think or 2 or 3 maybe

[@byel2844]

yk what im subscribing bc yes

[@渡辺ケンジ様]

パーツを手に入れていないのに持っていてキューキョクベッド完成してて草

[@ttvdabbing123]

Just asking is this possible on an English version of the game also after you beat the zeekeeper why do you go back to the room where you learn about the ultibed it seems counterproductive to me

[@LordMagecar]

Yes, all glitches used in the run are possible on english. In the route that he uses, he needed to unlock the luiginary ball ability in dreams deep in order to get through a single room in Bowser's Dream. Since this run, Snodeca found Bowser's Dream Skip, which unfortunately requires Ball Hop, so we still need to go through dreams deep in order to unlock Ball Hop. If we found a way to perform Bowser's Dream Skip without Ball Hop, or get through Bowser's Dream without the luiginary ball, we would be able to skip not only dreams deep, but also driftwood shore, because the only reason we complete driftwood shore is to get access to dreams deep.

[@ttvdabbing123]

I have doing so investigating with that glitch that allows you to go through walls in mount pajamjam would it be possible to hit the loading zone for the room leading up the the Antasma fight

[@LordMagecar]

​@@ttvdabbing123 There's no loading zone that leads to the Antasma fight, you have to take the elevator. However, by gaining control in the cutscene where we enter Bowser's Dream for the first time we can actually take the elevator because it loads during the middle of that cutscene. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p53Efapuaqx5nNE

[@Pixiuchu]

@@LordMagecar this glitch still pisses me off for being possible and i don't understand why the devs specifically made the elevator active during the cutscene Can't be mad though lol

[@olekomega1680]

Mario & Luigi have now entered the backrooms

[@jakobofcincy]

is citra allowed? i sold my 3ds and would like to get into speedrunning dream team

[@BlazingDiancie]

4:28:33 How in the actual fuck hell do you dodge this. I swear, even with 3D on, this attack feels like pure luck most of the time.

[@rubenasecas4171]

GG!

[@armandogonzalez2289]

What were the equipments you used in english and what does they do?

[@LordMagecar]

In the current route which uses a couple more skips than this run, we don't equip any gear until Mount Pajamaja, where we pick up Fighter Wear, which gives +20 POW, Hiking Boots, which give power proportional to the number of steps on the 3ds pedometer, maxing out at + 150 POW, and EXP Boots, which only give +33 POW but increase the amount of xp that we get so we can be level 15 for the final boss without any extra encounters. We also get 2 POW Scarves, one from getting 50 expert challenge points and one in dreamy driftwood shore, which boost POW by 20%. In somnom woods we pick up snare wear, which gives +30 POW and also gives a decent speed boost. When we beat pillodium we get anti-air boots dx which give +90 pow. When we beat zeekeeper we get energy wear which gives +30 POW and charges badges whenever we take damage. Lastly we pick up a POW Scarf DX before performing Bowser's Dream Skip which boosts POW by 30%.

[@armandogonzalez2289]

LordMagecar Thanks, I like the speedrun, you make the final boss look like a joke.

[@OrionAltHist]

@@LordMagecar Also, would any of this be different in a hard mode speedrun?

[@OrionAltHist]

@@armandogonzalez2289 yk, apparently he'd be doing something like 40%+ less damage to the final boss in normal mode at that level compared to easy mode

[@LordMagecar]

@@OrionAltHist Nobody has routed hard mode to my knowledge. I don't think the gear setup would change too much because in either case we would just want to maximize POW. If we need extra POW for Pillodium we could pick up Iron Ball Boots DX or Glass Boots. We might want better boots for dreamy bowser than anti-air boots dx but anything better is quite a large detour. Badges would be even more important so it might be worthwhile to pick up Charge Wear while we're performing Dreamy Dozing Sands Skip, and EXP Bro Gloves will probably reduce the number of extra encounters that we would need to take. It's hard to say for certain though because I have no idea what level we would need to be to make Dreamy Bowser remotely doable.

[@gchen3843]

Omg I just learned thing on a game I didn't play very long ago

[@OmegaVideoGameGod]

Very good

[@cringelord9341]

Wow... 5h for 1 run :O

[@Snoion]

Yes sir, it’s a long run; the glitchless run is a little over 10 hours so it’s not all that bad hah

[@cringelord9341]

@@Snoion uff xD

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Snoion Even 10 hours is at turbo speed.

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Snoion Also how long would a hard mode run take?

[@Pixiuchu]

@@OrionAltHist Probably 6 hours optimally. Hard to tell without a route.

[@davyjones3105]

Ok wait- so can you please explain what happens with Mario & Luigi upon interacting with the Eldream segment? And unfortunately the part that shows how Mario & Luigi were able to access the button that lets them to the pipe skipping half of Pajamaja was cut out. I’m certain you did this run genuine and just had some recording issues, but I’d like the skinny on what the hell is going on in terms of how Mario & Luigi can noclip at will in the first place.

[@Snoion]

At around 1:50:20 is when we get the property known as WTA (literally walk through air). Since the Pajamaja entrance is just out of reach, you can actually stand on a ledge to the right of the entrance and enter Pajamaja without ever pressing the button.

[@davyjones3105]

@@Snoion Ok then. When you’re referring to the “pajamaja entrance”, are you talking about that rock the Masiff bros. are supposed to move?

[@Snoion]

@@davyjones3105 Yes you can just walk in the air from that height and get to the entrance

[@SportsGaming-ll3ru]

Just 100% this game on hard mode 😎

[@IvanFranco120]

That would an miracle to happen, Hard Mode of this game, i think, hasn't run yet...🤔

[@SportsGaming-ll3ru]

@@IvanFranco120 hard mode is so much fun and adds more to the challenge of the game

[@Pixiuchu]

@@IvanFranco120 I did do a run on Hard Mode! 16 hours, beating all the bosses including Bowser Jr.! Although there were issues with the video file due to a pc crash so it never got uploaded, I'll try to upload it overnight just because its the only hard mode run of this game that exists (its a run with cam sorry), hopefully upload works edit: seems that I had done the run two months before you commented this edit again: well, uploading worked, i'm 2 years late to do that but wooh

[@jujuraffe3732]

2:53:13

[@thehawkturnal4903]

I always tried to a glitch run but stopped myself because I could get passed the guy who only heals because I couldn’t put damage him

[@Luigigamer-wn3nb]

Beef cloud? Yea he was stupid to beat for me even on a legit run

[@gastonwilliamsiv3517]

Could someone kindly explain what in the ever loving fuck happened in the pajamaja segment? As well as how someone ever figured that shit out

[@Pixiuchu]

Lordmagecar found a way to get Walk through Walls, and with tons of trial and error we learned to understand how to use Walk through Walls with Spin Jump!

[@ERS_OwO]

wow that is amazing sory i not inglish

[@verzoine]

And why don't you just clip through the sonom woods tree before elite trio

[@LordMagecar]

Beating elite trio is needed in order to return to dreamy pillo castle and enter dreams deep. In the route Snoion used, he needed to go to dreams deep in order to get the luiginary ball, which was needed to get through a room in bowser's dream. Since this run, we found Bowser's Dream Skip, but this skip requires Ball Hop, so we still need to go through driftwood shore and dreams deep in order to unlock Ball Hop.

[@OnlyGalaxy]

Normal players: i play the game as intended Speedrunners: We don’t do that here

[@OrionAltHist]

It's kinda funny how this guy just skips 90% of the game tho - there wasn't rly much 'gameplay' to this game that time.

[@JamesBond-io7hh]

How do you beat a game that on average takes 40hrs to complete, in less than 5

[@OrionAltHist]

With glitches.

[@Someguy-wl4qy]

With skills and experience too

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Someguy-wl4qy Let's see him to try to speedrun the game on hard mode tho

[@Someguy-wl4qy]

@@OrionAltHist ayt

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Someguy-wl4qy then he'd be dealing like 1 damage per hit to the final boss

[@theomoriceau5362]

Qui veut un speedrun sur mario et luigi dans le ventre de bowser

[@Pixiuchu]

www.speedrun.com/mlbis The ones on this leaderboard do.

[@gchen3843]

Idk what convainc you to do that but really congrat Speedrunning an RPG Imagine speedrunning a Fire Emblem

[@cats4cats231]

can you do commentary?

[@carlosamtonio4100]

hey its a me weegee xbox 6.......WAAAAHOOOOOO-

[@ryanamburgy2791]

Noice.

[@GuessWhoMaedWafflez]

4:26:12

[@actualcatluna]

I love the game but the final big bowser ist glitched and luigi is straight heading to the Lava at the spin battle.

[@OrionAltHist]

You have to move the 3DS around and then hit Bowser into the lava like 5 times.

[@OrionAltHist]

Basically, tilt controls for that part of the fight.

[@Camphreneas]

Walls are just a friggin concept in this game XD I can’t tell if Dream Team is more broken than Paper Jam, or not!

[@blue_mario777]

혹시...한국말 잘하시나요?

[@stavenbyrne8010]

Language=Korean

[@kdh7052]

와우 한글!

[@Lgray0920]

옹 한국판이당

[@pallukun]

a lot of incredible skips, you must have skipped half of the bosses and several huge level segments, the glitchless run must be twice this length

[@Pixiuchu]

The glitchless run is 10:15:22 by Demolition1414, while this run is half the length. The current world record is 3:19:53 though with a bunch new skips, it's pretty insane lol. Now we do the same route until fighting Sandoons, and after that the next fight is Pi'illodium, then the final boss. It's ridiculous just how much we skip. It's 3 times as short as Glitchless now (meaning we skip the same aount of stuff as the Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga speedruns!).

[@pallukun]

@@Pixiuchu thats incredible, i should watch them both and compare

[@efendi16]

.... .. .. .. .

[@lp4718]

뭐야 왜 한국어지

[@Snoion]

나는 한국어를 좋아한다 :)

[@verzoine]

Why do you play on jappanese

[@vr8652]

The way the Japanese language's alphabet works is that you can display more information on one line of text, meaning overall its faster.

[@vr8652]

And its Korean I by the way. A lot of the asian alphabets have a faster way of writing then western alphabets

[@stephencolbourne44]

@@vr8652 IQ 1000

[@Someguy-wl4qy]

@@vr8652 wow it all makes sense now, always wandered why people do that

[@LordMagecar]

@IIvgmII text characters don't matter but I believe English loses a few seconds when getting the attack piece from the marriage guy for no apparent reason

[@epocish]

>retrying battles on easy Zero respect for this run

[@Snoion]

lmao this is a speedrun dude, easy mode is faster!

[@OrionAltHist]

Isn't that cheating tho?

[@Snoion]

Orion: Alternate History speedrunning is using anything within the confines of the game to beat it as fast as possible. Some of the bosses in this run may not even be possible without the use of easy mode, especially Pillodium’s destruction phase or Dreamy Bowser.

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Snoion Also, did you know if there are any glitchless hard mode runs of this game? Something like that must take like 10+ hours.

[@OrionAltHist]

@@Snoion Say, which of the M&L games would you say is the most difficult to speedrun?

[@goldflowergamer3139]

Man, this game is just a bunch of unnecessary cutscenes.

[@marioguy1225]

1:22:39

[@connorflippen2162]

4:43:19