Mario Solves a Murder (kind of)

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[@vitorgdc]

Graymon not remembering the answer for his own hack is almost like me not understanding my own handwritting when I show the exercise to my teacher

[@DuckieMcduck]

I think he was trying to be cheeky and give a hint instead of the whole answer, but seeing how massive and convoluted the logic was set up it could go either way

[@Huntgaming-]

Or like making your own maze and having to cheat to get to the end.

[@theattila567]

Or like making your own Mario Maker level and using a devpath to get to the end like a bitch.

[@FakestLoogi]

@@theattila567 some levels require you to die in order to complete a level. So devpaths are usually required. But yes having a death path on levek which can be beaten in one attempt is cheap

[@deadturret4049]

God its like a recent Kojima production.

[@roryrainbow77]

"The last two hacks were a bit claustrophobic" *Monkey Paw curls*

[@CronyneWARE]

I'm fucking actually laughing I love this.

[@TheCat_3]

Here is a hack that doesn't limit as much *especially the answer to the murderer*

[@decoyskates8395]

I appreciate how at the end, despite being so frustrated and upset at the solution to the hack, you still reminded everyone about what was actually great about the hack itself. Respects to Simpleflips.

[@MoundN]

That's probably because he knows how absolutely retarded twitch chat is and their fly brain capacity limits their ability to remind shit that was 10 seconds ago.

[@prekatori]

@@MoundN Everytime I see a twitch chat I think something along those lines. Just look at what the chat chooses in darkvipers chaos mod playthroughs and that they are upset that the voting system is proportional and not determined by a majority vote.

[@MoundN]

@@prekatori LMAO. I've been complainig about the EXACT same in a chaosmod video of darkviper!

[@psychosalad7812]

To be fair, I own a DS Lite.

[@zawarudo596]

Holy crud, it's Salad, from the Marios :0c (This is a :0 face holding up a hand not a sad face with a big nose)

[@Trimint123]

Still a DS, really. Beside, I'm pretty sure there's more people that has the lite model than the original.

[@psychosalad7812]

True

[@zawarudo596]

@@cier7778 -Adolf Hitler, 1943 Lol

[@stampygriefer9official638]

Why have you not subscribed to the most complex somersault.

[@Somescrub]

The bob-omb at the beginning did say the clues were going to be mostly unhelpful. What an understatement.

[@maxdriever7668]

That red coin locked behind the power up is actually how it is in sm64 ds lol

[@restlessfrager]

Who the living fuck greenlit that lol

[@restlessfrager]

@@AlphaStormMusic Still a trash reason to lock a red coin behind a gate you can only get with the vanish cap which is unlocked in another level.

[@thedankhold8443]

@@restlessfrager Actually in SM64DS you have to unlock Luigi to use the invisibility power. So it'd take even longer...

[@ThatNotSoAznKid]

@@restlessfrager If I remember correctly you can't access the level without getting the invisibility cap anyway

[@cephelos1098]

@@ThatNotSoAznKid nope. You go to that level as only Yoshi to rescue Mario, but you can't get the coin unless you're Luigi

[@SirNile]

In Clue, you're suppose to be able to single out at least one category before the end of a game, not one category of clues were singled out

[@randomawsome]

Never mind, watched to the end and you’re right, this makes no sense

[@ferricbro7847]

@UCQPK3CYy7rqNZu_qs-ozsoQ no, Koopa could've done it with a number of things, but he was the only one who could've used a gun.

[@alecsjoholm3970]

@RandomAwsome Guy Koopa didn't own a gun, and there was no clue that stated Koopa could only have used a gun.

[@vegetavsluigi]

Alec Sjoholm The clue said “If Koopa or Joe didn’t use a gun, then nobody used a gun”, and then there was a clue that said “Joe was never real”. That indirectly means that nobody could have used a gun.

[@juliewinchester1488]

@@vegetavsluigi b- but I'm Joe _vanishes_

[@musingscabbage7818]

I honestly wonder if the clue "If it happened in SOMH64, then it was done with a DS stylus" was a typo and was supposed to say if it DIDN'T happen there. Going off that hypothetical, boiling it down to Rougeport and PokeFloats would mean that it would have to be done with a stylus, meaning Byleth couldn't have done it cause she doesn't own a DS. That leaves Koopa the Quick doing it with the stylus; "If it happened in Rogueport then Koopa the Quick did it" doesn't restrict Koopa from doing it at PokeFloats unfortunately. And that all sounds way too easy for a logic puzzle imo but it would at least leave much less ambiguity and guessing. It would honestly make so much sense if that's how it was supposed to be. As it stands now, there's like 7 possible, valid conclusions that can be made... Also fuck the candlestick. Literally never mentioned outside of the intro.

[@hadesthegod9181]

I think you’re right about all this. Good thinking!

[@cachotognax3600]

Maybe a good thing out of the candlestick is the idea of having a similar puzzle where we know if something wasn't ever memtiined then we can assume it isn't real, that could be cool if done well.

[@Rmac524]

truth bomb from Musings and fail bomb from graymon

[@cullenlatham2366]

honestly, after trying to use what he found out for myself, i feel like it was simply an issue with simp missing something, and my best guess is that the body had a few hints linked to it. when the location is narrowed down to 2 options with one of those options being restricted, only about 3/4s of all weapon/suspect combinations eliminated, and no suspect relations as hints... there was enough missing that it was more than just guess and check, but enough information to greatly narrow down the list makes me think that there was enough to solve, he just missed something.

[@ChompDude]

I think this is the maddest I've ever seen Simp get.

[@stevecooper6578]

He does have a high tolerance for dumb shit but this hack was kinda woopy

[@Joshyboy225]

Same

[@ertrick3693]

More than that, he seemed horribly disappointed. He wanted to have a good game of clue, and he did enjoy his time playing the hack and trying to narrow down the suspects, but it upset him that it was all ultimately fruitless because Graymon didn't provide enough hints to thoroughly narrow down the suspect. The fun mental challenge of figuring out the mystery was ruined by a sloppy execution in the end, and it really shows that this was greatly upsetting to Simple.

[@justinfritz4817]

@@ertrick3693 It's unbelievable that someone could put a deduction puzzle in their game but not actually design it in a way that it could be solved. And it wasn't even an "oops, I didn't think this out all the way, so it could be one of two things" it was "these clues are almost random and don't narrow anything down". It's actually mind boggling, and shows a complete lack of understanding about what a deduction puzzle is. And then to be put through 2 hours of a promise of a payoff only to realize that the creator was too dumb to actually deliver on such a simple premise... I would be upset too. edit: Apparently, some clues were forgotten, a clue about the candlestick on the body was bugged and never showed up, and simple missed a couple subtle clues while playing - but none of those hints showed up in the final room, so it's just an egregious oversight in the design either way.

[@AAAAAAA-nh7jv]

Do not call him simp, i beg of you

[@KimiOmega]

The whole "I remember it being Koopa the quick" segment had me in tears, holy shit

[@wakawakawookie]

Victim: Simpleflips Killer: Graymon Location: The Jet Erikson Rainbow Correctional in Gay Baby Jail Weapon: Conflicting information and terrible logic. An unending shell riding death GBJ was also found at the scene of the crime. Good hack, though.

[@XetXetable]

So, I did some analysis on the problem, and here's my conclusion: There's no way to solve this uniquely. Here's my description of the problem, laid out in formal logical notation, hint by hint; One of {Bowser, Byleth, ColMus, Graymon, Joe, Knuckles, Koopa, Mario, PSalad, SimpleFlips} must be true, but only one. This means that "Bowser → ! (Byleth ∨ ColMus ∨ Graymon ∨ Joe ∨ Knuckles ∨ Koopa ∨ Mario ∨ PSalad ∨ SimpleFlips))", etc. Same for {Bat, Brick, Candlestick, Crossbow, GraymonYTC, Gun, Katana, Stylus, Poison, Tripping} and {Bridge, Castle, Desert, Greenhouse, HMC, LiBoorary, MiddleSchool, PKFloats, Pumpkin, Rougeport}. Chronologically, the hints are as follows; (PSalad → Stylus) (Gun → (Koopa ∨ Joe)) (really, !((Koopa∧Gun)∨(Joe∧Gun))→!Gun, but this is equivalent) ! Tripping ! Bowser ∧ ! Castle (Byleth → ! (Stylus ∨ Bat ∨ Gun)) (Koopa → ! (Bat ∨ Gun)) (Bridge ∨ PKFloats ∨ MiddleSchool ∨ Rougeport) (! Byleth → ! (Crossbow ∨ Katana)) (MiddleSchool → Stylus) (Brick → Knuckles) (! PKFloats → ! Byleth) (Rougeport → Koopa) ! Knuckles ! Mario ! Joe (Poison → ColMus) ! Bridge ∧ ! MiddleSchool I put all this into a boolean satisfiability solver, and it found exactly 24 solutions; It could have been done on PKFloats, with the following; 1. Byleth and one of Candlestick, Crossbow, GraymonYTC, or Katana 2. Mustard and one of Bat, Candlestick, GraymonYTC, Stylus, Poison 3. Graymon and one of Bat, Candlestick, GraymonYTC, Stylus 4. Koopa and one of Bat, Candlestick, GraymonYTC 5. PsychoSalad and Stylus 6. SimpleFlips and one of Bat, Candlestick, GraymonYTC, or Stylus Alternatively, it could have been done in Rougeport, in which case there are three remaining options; Koopa doing it with either the Candlestick, GraymonYTC, or Stylus. Someone previously mentioned that the (MiddleSchool → Stylus) hint may have been a mistake and it should have been (! MiddleSchool → Stylus); This does change the number of solutions to 6; 5 on PKFloats and 1 in Rougeport. I would guess there was supposed to be a hint indicating that PokeFloats wasn't the location since it eliminates 87.5% of the remaining options. With that, assuming the MiddleSchool hint wasn't a mistake, there's got to be something vindicating the youtube channel (maybe it not making sense? Maybe Koopa couldn't have used it because it's not his channel?) and the candlestick; but it apparently was never mentioned.

[@MarvelousBilly]

God there’s 24 different solutions in a logic game? That’s really stupid

[@SNC_Zora]

It actually couldn't be GraymonYTC as the weapon. The very first bob-omb Simple talked to explained that Graymon was in jail and thus couldn't use his channel as a weapon, and that additionally no one else would ever use the channel as a weapon. 0:39 This alone eliminates 9 of the 24 options. Then at 17:04 Simpleflips's innocence is supposed to be judged by Twitch chat. While there was never any direct statement given at all about whether Simple was innocent or not, I think the sign was intended to declare Simple as innocent. I guess Simple had the same interpretation. This eliminates another 3 of the remaining 15 options. As for the other combinations, Graymon actually responded in a comment to this video about the Candlestick and Pokefloats (if you sort by new and scroll for a bit you can find it). Apparently there was supposed to be a sign that said Pokefloats was not an option for the location, but he forgot to include it. Had he included that, 10 of the remaining 12 options would be eliminated. It would now be a toss-up between whether or not Koopa used a Stylus or a Candlestick in Rogueport. Finally, I asked Graymon about the Candlestick, and he said that the dead bob-omb body at the beginning of the game was actually a sign, and gave away that it couldn't have been a Candlestick. He said it was a wall sign though, and that it was "annoying to talk to" as compared to a regular sign. After reading that, I checked the VOD of this stream, and apparently the fact that it was a wall sign made a big difference. At 1:13:13 in the video ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWXGqqVtnN-rg9k ), Simple attempts to inspect the dead body, but gives up quickly as he didn't get the text box to show up. Had we seen that text box, Candlestick would have been eliminated as an option, leaving only Koopa using a Stylus at Rogueport as the answer. Obviously Graymon messed up a bit here. Four essential clues all had some kind of problem that made solving the puzzle unnecessarily hard/impossible. Literally none of them appeared in the "hint" room, one of them was up to interpretation (Simpleflips), another was poorly programmed in (the dead bob-omb), and the other one was forgotten and not even in the game (Pokefloats). It sucks because I really enjoyed all the different levels that were offered, and I thought the premise was super cool, but slight mishaps caused massive issues at the end. A shame, considering I feel like this one could've had an easy Top 3 performance in the voting (imo).

[@JammyJam5588]

I wonder where that sign with the pokefloats "hint" was supposed to be, because the only hints I recall in this video were via the Stars and the Bob-ombs in the starting area. If it was anywhere else I'd call BS and poor design.

[@Flare03l]

Cool! I'm glad someone put this into a SAT solver.

[@kjl3080]

DetoNATEr kudos to you for figuring it out

[@pyk_]

This is the sort of stuff that comes to mind when people say "Who cares about grammar, you get what I mean!"

[@internetguy7319]

Zaleucus As a writer, it always deeply offends me

[@taidghhaggerty6109]

to be fair, this is a pretty uncommon example where the sentence is the only context given. In most cases where that phrase is said, there's additional context that does let you understand what they said despite poor grammar.

[@forkevbot]

Even taking that into account, there still clearly wasnt enough info lol

[@taidghhaggerty6109]

@@forkevbot Oh absolutely, the clues in this were totally insufficient and should have had more work done on them. I just think that in most cases(that aren't this), if the listener understands the speaker, that is in fact all that matters.

[@SeeMyDolphin]

This has less to do with grammar and more to do with (boolean) logic, which yes, people are generally bad at without experience.

[@L_e_o]

Wth, no more "scooblidoobyascoobdlibiblybo" at the end of mystery hacks?

[@3ternals0ul25]

I just think they couldn't be bothered after this.

[@oofadoofa313]

This is the harshest I've ever seen Simpleflips while playing a hack 😬

[@Leggyre]

@@8Kazuja8 in all honesty, the idea was really good and the level design was pretty interesting. It was a good way of mixing a game of clue with a platformer...... The only problem was the puzzle itself. I think this could be solved if he used signs instead of stars and sprinkled more of them around the expansive map. It's really easy to forget it's a game of clue with such a little amount of.. clues.

[@smexykins3065]

@@8Kazuja8 this fucking comment is gold, thank you

[@DarkonXia]

FAKE ENDING KILL THEM ALL

[@BigEvy]

It’s because graymon made it lol.

[@Leggyre]

@@BigEvy only one braincell and it only works on level design 😔

[@Lifis]

Maybe the “blood takes one hour to dry” comment was supposed to clue you in that it couldn’t be... whatever locations were three hours away, I forgot. I also didn’t get to look at the body. Maybe there were other cryptic clues that weren’t specifically summed up in the hint room? Ending aside, I was pretty impressed with the interconnected world in this hack. Feels like you could make a really cool Metroidvania-esque map in a similar fashion.

[@megasora4]

you are correct about the clues missing from the hint room, according to some others in the comments, there was a bugged dialog box on the body eliminating the candle stick and a couple more subtle hints strewn about the hack that if you missed it, dont show in the hint room.

[@beesree39]

Mario 64 Metroidvania would be amazing but you can't really do much with 3 power ups. Locking doors behind stars is just how the normal game is lol

[@CarlosIXAth]

Dude, i'm dead over "I rEmEmbEr It bEIng kOOpA thE qUIck"

[@icegod4849]

lmao same

[@ToonersUWU]

He must have been so high when creating the hack

[@hecticscone]

@@eiichirose lol drug funnee !!!!!

[@lunk2569]

He randomizes it when you open the hack obviously

[@Eshyyyyy]

With how poorly executed this rom hack was, it makes me want to just make my own Clue styled mystery hack

[@MarvelousBilly]

You totally should! I want to see a rom hack with this style that works

[@Mikey64]

Do it

[@The2mightybeanfans]

@@MarvelousBilly You dont have to be a dick about it

[@maxrollins8781]

@@The2mightybeanfans in what way was he a Dick??

[@Eshyyyyy]

Three year old comment. Know that I’m still thinking about this

[@spongyoshi]

I was thinking "Man this hack is easily Top 3 of the competition, like I'd legit play this!" But man, that ending, what a letdown...

[@marethyu3702]

Same

[@letcreate123]

Yeah, I was there watching the stream when he started playing. Unfortunately had to leave like an hour in, had no idea it devolved into this mess.

[@erosivefrog5348]

The "Bruh-huh!" is finally back!! But... Dad isn't. Please dad come home

[@lior_haddad]

Bruh-huh...

[@BreakFruitTree]

No

[@handsomeharold4698]

I think it's Bruh-HA like "ah-ha!

[@ninja_raven256]

F

[@spongyoshi]

What did it even said in the other videos? I never could understand :X

[@RobinNashVideos]

This is like playing Clue, if Clue had multiples of each card.

[@sptflcrw8583]

Cape without a hero lmao

[@GreyMaria]

Graymon not remembering the answer for his own hack is almost like Graymon killing someone with his KZbin channel.

[@JetEriksen]

There were no Gay Baby Jails this episode. Current GBJ drystreak: 1 video Nothing to say here. I hope you all have a good day.

[@bananabuns1369]

if anyone thinks the koopa shell is a gbj, it isnt because he can die/leave the map. please love me jet

[@rynesamuel5544]

Please love us piplup God.

[@fourtrifiveo4350]

thanks

[@scarymeunster9095]

Hiya there Mr. Eriksen. Have good day yourself!

[@eggsat9291]

I'd argue this entire hack was a GJB.

[@RoronoaDLuffy-iu4yx]

I hope Graymon become a meme in your stream (in a teasy-friendly way ala TJ Henry Yoshi) because holy shit the ending was dumb.

[@Zimbo7]

Rovert is already a meme in Simp’s stream because of the FAKE END

[@zawarudo596]

@@Zimbo7 FAKE COMMENT *KILL ALL PINEAPPLES*

[@weirdboo]

Man I feel for you dude. Nothing worse than a hack with tons of potential that falls flat at the end because the creator gave up

[@AlphaStormMusic]

I will say, this was not a flawed concept but had seriously flawed execution. And I’m not just talking about the ending. Sure the levels were cool, but it went VERY far away from Clue. I’m sure he could make one location with exactly the amount of clues you need to solve this. That would make it both solvable and more faithful to clue. It didn’t even need eleven stars. I’ve not played Clue and I can tell you, you don’t need to go to eleven places to even think about starting to eliminate things. Like I said, great idea, flawed execution.

[@glitch01234]

I do agree though as someone who has played Clue, that without other players guessing to eliminate answers from, you would go to 6-9 locations unless you were lucky. That part itself wasn't far away from clue and it could've been shortened and areas made smaller. It also would've been nice to remove a lot of pointless info from clues and not sneak them into text.

[@finalfantasy50]

This hack is the Mass Effect 3 of super mario hacks.

[@rudy9773]

LOL

[@Guymanbot97]

Sooo arguably one of the better ones, up until the end that basically makes the whole thing shit?

[@gub4941]

Daniel Silva can’t wait for the expansion that kinda fixes the end but not really

[@ldswolf32419]

0:31, reminds me when Yoshi asks "IT it really you?" on regular SM64 when you collected all 120 stars and meet him on the castle roof

[@brunkosproogle5046]

this has to be the most fed up and critical of a hack I've ever seen dad be before.

[@murpaderp8461]

I'm convinced Graymon is chaotic evil.

[@nehemiasfeliz7273]

a lot of time has passed sice i enjoy so badly one SF video, today a lot of good thing happend to me, this is one of the best days of my life, thaks Simple for giving me another piece of happiness

[@mr.boombox5021]

7:40 the start of the funniest 2 minutes of my life.

[@devastatheseeker9967]

Everything up to the ending 10/10 the ending -5000/10

[@TinNovaKiin]

7:44 _Eventually, Mario stopped thinking_

[@leoleo4469]

-Joe was just- a clever anime reference. 4/7 words, good job

[@themidnightman9798]

Imagine someone asks you how to do a move in your own game that you made, and you're just like... "I think its the two kick buttons."

[@Lucas-db2jq]

Look on the bright side, at least we got to see Mario get flung off into space with a green shell multiple times.

[@doodlethecommenter1257]

So Mario killed his wife and then became a detective?

[@mondaybear21]

Doodle The Commenter Tiger King 64 when

[@phanterratic]

That's how it is in actual clue lol. If the suspect is the person you're playing, you just accuse yourself.

[@magicalComposer]

All that was missing to narrow it down properly is getting rid of Poke Floats, the Candlestick, and Byleth. Went out of my way to make a logic grid for it and being able to cross out the candlestick would have left koopa with only the DS Stylus, and crossing off poke floats would have eliminated byleth entirely, so long as we take the grammar of "if it didn't happen on pokefloats then byleth is innocent" to mean "Byleth can only be guilty on Pokefloats"

[@magicalComposer]

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14QqYwMF2wzLVWy5AwdQlTjfUtGgVT_BCBFAEe3gr9rA/edit?usp=drivesdk Added the logic grid with notes if link sharing works in comments

[@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz]

This hack needs to be remade, and if the answers were randomised like actual Cluedo, that'd be sick. Other great hacks like the 200IQ Super Quiz got remade so why not

[@EDoyl]

I really like how this is a mystery-themed set of Mario levels rather than a mystery story told using the medium of sm64 romhack like some others, I think it deserves a bonus point for that.

[@FelrinKirla]

Would you justify an animal cruelty video if it had cool music in the credits? Granted, the level design was nice, but didn't contribute much at all to the theme of the hack.

[@smashmouthegg570]

@@chippotato5647 graymon is a fucking legend dont speak down upon his name or you will meet bups end

[@Mathtron5000]

That is by far the best end-screen line ever

[@vessioem]

Every couple months I come back to this one just for 29:11 onwards. This part made me lose it the first time I watched this vid.

[@SwerveStarEx]

The statement about Driftveil Bridge and SMOH64 High School being 3 hours away was probably tied to the statement that one dude made about how it takes blood 1 hour to dry and turn crimson red. We never got a good look at the body but it probably would've said something about the blood still being wet.

[@corbor]

Graymon having trouble remembering his own clue solution reminded me of Karl Pilkington forgetting his own Rockbusters clues

[@GigasGMX]

First, most obvious problem: the hack keeps talking about who owns what. You don't have to own something in order to kill someone with it. Other than that, I"m too lazy to figure out whether the problem was that Simple didn't set up a series of matrices, like you're supposed to for this sort of puzzle, or that Greymon gave bad hints.

[@SimpleFlips]

Normally I take heavy consideration that it's my fault, but since the guy who made it didn't even remember the answer, it's hard to think it's mine lol

[@finalfantasy50]

If ownership doesnt exclude suspects then giving that info is entirely arbitrary and even worse than the clues he gave

[@Nekufan1000000]

Easy way to fix the hack. Cut some of the suspects and weapons, just a couple. Change the hints to being, "It was not *Character*" or "It was not *weapon*" or "it did not happen in *location.*" Simplify things. And then hire a coder to write a script that randomizes the words so it's a different character, weapon, and location each time a new save is selected.

[@DingoOverlord]

This hack is a perfect summarization of modern day horror movies: cool ideas, with absolutely horrible endings

[@Snorlax-zw9gc]

I'm just saying, no one can disprove it wasn't Simpleflips with the candlestick on Pokefloats.

[@EdgieAlias]

Not even the person who made the damn hack

[@HolyDemonSnap]

Dad, I'm ngl. This was so funny it brought me to tears. All that build up for so much frustration was legit the best thing ever. Thank you for playing this hack. Even if it was mis-executed and done by a madman it still paid dividends in laughter.

[@mattawan1000]

I can't remember Simple ever being so genuinely upset/disappointed.

[@Zalied]

this is why in a lot of logic puzzles that are set up this way. you get like 10+ questions. even when theirs 5 or less people and things involved. now i will say many of these hints eliminate entire things like "joe wasnt real" drops a whole row on the logic table. but it just felt like half the info never was given.

[@ana.alliterative]

Everybody said, "Who's Joe" but nobody says, "Joe was just a clever anime reference."

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

As in... Joe Joe?

[@EdgieAlias]

Because that's not clever and you would be a liar for saying it.

[@creator1176]

Next intro should go like the banjo laugh (Bruh-HAH!)

[@alphabulblax1649]

Man, this was disappointing. I love logic puzzles, and it was super frustrating to see this hack's amazing potential just crumble at the end. It's like doing a jigsaw puzzle and slowly realizing near the end that you're missing some pieces.

[@billionthb]

7:44 "It is the road that you goooooo... When you dieee"

[@lawnchairs4356]

I'm glad that the first stream I was able to catch was this madness.

[@GIRru11]

I feel like the two subtle mentions of blood drying up after a certain amount of time, plus the time in terms of distance for the locations could've helped narrow down the location list to one of the two

[@snoozbuster]

Graymon should have given the logic puzzle by itself to a handful of people to make sure it was solvable before putting it into the game, it can be very easy to mess up the reasoning making one by hand

[@Awolfx]

This is the first real time that i've seen Simple frustrated and upset with anything. His patience knows no bounds.

[@michaelchristian6096]

Bro the mario 64 DS stage completely hit me with so much nostalgia. Holy ass

[@throwaway1743]

A low rating for this is very fair. The goal of the game was to behave like Clue and it failed miserably. The technical aspects may have been mostly competent and perhaps even interesting at times, but if you cannot establish basic enough logic in your hints to lead people even close to the right answer, then this is not the game you should have made, nor the contest you should've entered for. All this to say that maybe the creator could thrive better in a different contest! Who knows!

[@guardianboreal1432]

And we at Pumpkin Hill!

[@-._-._.-_.-]

4:30 hey this level is a remake from SM64DS! A level remake out of a remake of the original game!

[@Spunney]

uh... lol

[@whitetapeti4144]

I'm pretty sure there was an area he didn't explore. On the stream he looks at an area he never reached and there was a doorway he never went through

[@SNC_Zora]

Shit now I wanna try and see if I can figure it out...

[@gilolaes4725]

Except there was no indication that anything mattered except the hints you got from getting stars. It even went so far as to give you a completionist room with every hint in the game. If anything else mattered, that room existing invalidates the hack's logic as well.

[@whitetapeti4144]

@@gilolaes4725 true I agree that if I'm correct and the rest if the puzzle was in that area... that's kind of dumb, it should have 12 stars instead of 11 in that case

[@Coaltergeist]

If that area was pokefloats then it would have vindicated the hack just a little bit. That would have narrowed it down to KtQ with either a ds or candlestick in rogueport iirc

[@romannoodles5856]

If the area was pokefloats and it said that a candlestick wasn't used, then the ending would've worked

[@blindwhy]

8:20 This is technically not a GBJ, and thus the dry-streak continues. Edit: some fucking idiot said there’s no way to play besides reset. But you can game over so this isn’t GBJ.

[@revnl17]

False, there isn’t anything he can do to escape aside from reseting, and therefore a GBJ

[@JayJay64100]

@@revnl17 is getting a game over considered a reset?

[@LinkDawnbringer]

@@revnl17 He could game over

[@sahazra]

If he game overs then it goes back to the title screen anyway. It's basically like a Mario Maker GBJ.

[@JayJay64100]

@@sahazra i guess that's true, but the game technically didn't stop running and he's able to move again without pressing a button on "the console". i'm not sure about the actual definition of a gbj in this case.

[@willycheese4847]

This simple is definitely CGI. Look at the hair. So obvious

[@hotmud9703]

Salad really *OWNED* that DS though.

[@gavinpierce2647]

Remember the time in Paper Mario 64 when Mario was accused for murdering the mayor of Shiver Town?

[@ItsSudonim]

going through again (i was watching the stream) i decided to follow along and see if simpleflips was just being an idiot. if you don't want to read all of the possible outcomes that fit the logic given, then tl;dr there was only one issue in the logic, if there was something that made pokefloats not the place of murder then everything would have properly fell into place. though simpleflips did simplify and slightly change some hints that made his come out way worse. Edit: i looked back and there's a second issue that the candlestick needs to be removed as well. the possible outcomes after parsing all of the hints (that i got) are as follows: koopa the quick, ds stylus, rougeport koopa the quick, candlestick, rougeport koopa the quick, ds stylus, pokefloats koopa the quick, candlestick, pokefloats byleth, candlestick, pokefloats byleth, crossbow, pokefloats byleth, katana, pokefloats colonel mustard, ds stylus, pokefloats colonel mustard, poison, pokefloats colonel mustard, candlestick, pokefloats colonel mustard, bat, pokefloats

[@GreenPower713]

I did the same, and this is what I think: I checked the location numbers and the highest found number was 12, which was greenhouse. If we suppose that there is exactly 12 locations, then we are missing number 1, 5, 7 and 9. Goomboss battle and Never Made Good Cave Never Will (HMC) didn't have a number, so we can suppose that they should be in the locations. In that case, there was still 2 locations in the game that were missed by Simple. Maybe one of them was Pokefloat? And maybe a pink bob-omb had an info on the candle stick? Also, in your outcomes, I think that you supposed that since Psycho Salad is a friend of Graymon, he didn't do it (I might have missed a clue for this info, but I couldn't get that specifically).

[@ItsSudonim]

the only one i removed without a guaranteed answer was simpleflips because of the haha funny joke.

[@kolcrap7063]

I love how considerate simpleflips is

[@CitizenLenny]

FAKE ENDING KILL THEM ALL and then mario has to kill all the suspects instead

[@Edd_Harr]

That Vanish Cap wall jump section gave me big A Hat in Time Dweller Mask vibes. Except, y'know, inherently worse.

[@GamingTopTen]

3:00 Nobody died from having an engaging crossover game-play experience. Good to know!

[@maxvangulik1988]

Byleth got a hell of a lawyer hot dam

[@zenomasker2579]

I'd like to believe that this hack actually was just too big brain and simp eliminated something he shouldn't have, but the fact is that somewhere in the hack the murder weapon was said to be a DS.

[@araknieretro]

This was submitted 5 months ago. The whole competition was supposed to be over in a month or less. Just so you know why Greymon forgot the answer. Tbh i would stop caring too about the competition too if it took this long. I'm just unable to care for 5 months for anything that stays static. BUT! That's why i write things down, i know i can't remember a single word for months, so i write it down when i need. Everything i need to remember long term i write down. Greymon you ducked up! Dude. Duuuuude. DuuuUuUuUuUuUuUuUuUudue.

[@aperson1412]

There was no Yu-Gi-Oh Prison in this episode. Current Drystreak: 15 I’m not late, you are.

[@ReploidZ]

Like others have said, the idea was pretty slick, the execution was just sloppy. This hack would be 👍with some polishing.

[@finalfantasy50]

Why was it the DS? The only mention was that one suspect owned it (not koopa) and that if it happened at the school it was the murder weapon. I dont understand

[@Riku70X]

The creator of the hack is bad at clue, that's why it's the DS. (He guessed, because there was literally no way to know what the weapon was)

[@stekarkaytrio3268]

second clue : koopa and joe are the only ones who use the gun simple : if gun no koopa or joe me : "facepalm"

[@shadowdlr12]

I just love the ROM back comps, they encourage creativity in hacks :) more sm64 to play :)

[@napalmzombie848]

I accuse dad of killing Jet Ericksen in the comment section using starvation

[@lashybean]

To be fair to graymon, there were probably some npcs that eliminated certain possibilities. I say this because simple said towards the end that nothing deconfirmed graymons youtube channel but at the very beginning the toad deconfirmed both graymon and his channel

[@richarde98]

DID YOU KNOW: Salad owns a DS. Call the cops!

[@mfdoomguy3786]

This is just the part of Umineko where Battler becomes the new Game Master and fucks it up so hard that he's demoted

[@anthonygotttheonly]

I can just feel the salt flying out of your mouth lmao

[@animatepokemonadventures7889]

the reward was worth it though. you must admit.

[@stockicide]

Shoutouts to Simpleflips.

[@crocogator665]

23:38 Almost spit out my water lmao

[@transorm987]

This hack was so well done in terms of concept but the exectution really let it down.

[@NathanTheMan]

I would assume that because the candlestick was never mentioned, it wouldn’t have been a murder weapon. Also, how would anyone else have the password to log into Graymon’s YT. That would mean that it should be Koopa as the only option because he’s the one that would therefore not have one option left, the DS. tldr Graymon forgot that he put candlestick as a murder weapon.

[@christopherthomas484]

Would've taken less time if you wrote the clues in Paint

[@SaffronMage]

Wasn’t pokefloats the water area that had the ‘trainer tips’ sign?

[@theangrywig3905]

Who knows at this point, I don't think Graymon knew what he was doing.

[@markjrcolin1210]

That pumpkin hill song remake was quality music making 👌

[@Kaysler]

Not often I see Simple get this salty at a hack lol

[@JelloSickle98]

Concept was awesome though gotta admit

[@zawarudo596]

Yeah but if your concept is No Mans Sky and your execution is...No Mans Sky...doesnt really matter how good the idea was in the end yeah?

[@JelloSickle98]

@@zawarudo596 yeah but then it updated after being memed on so hard. To me it's a learning process. Not every game is gonna be perfect learning from mistakes does make you better though. This hack was fun to watch and was probably fun to do. Just needs improvement.

[@saveriozambetta7528]

I really like the "Bruh-uh!" in the intro

[@slimjim2321]

I feel bad for Graymon since a lot of people only know how to just shit on hacks that simple doesn't enjoy. I hope he continues to learn and improve based on Simple's feedback.

[@sebastianfritz9701]

Mario stares at a body and ponders what to do lol

[@zachsmith8109]

There was 1 Simpleflips in this video. Simpleflips wetstreak: 11