Mark Kermode on Kill Bill Volume 2

[@tedwilliams9074]

the highest praise for Tarantino came from Kermode here... there was a time when he truly considered Tarantino to be the aire apparent savior of modern cinema, arargo his feeling of betrayel post-jackie brown.

[@thegoodjinn8065]

Broomhilda ?! Germaine got into Tarantino's head there.

[@drdickphd]

I was thinking the same thing

[@johngilmore697]

Lynne, I'm on god's side! I can't stand the devil. I think he's bang out of order. I think he's an evil, evil idiot!!

[@karlkarlos3545]

Kermode again hits the nail on the head if it comes to Tarantino.

[@michaeldonovan4793]

idiots....easily kill bill one of the masterpieces of cinema...and both tarantino and thurman should have won oscars...

[@Jefcostello-1]

@Michael Donovan Lol

[@ajs41]

@@michaeldonovan4793 Reservoir Dogs and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood are his masterpieces.

[@dickthebirthdayboy2132]

@@Jefcostello-1 lol hes right

[@okyouknowwhatever]

Yeah, Kermode isn't right about everything, but regarding Tarantino he's 100% spot on. Tarantino post Jackie Brown is not a very good filmmaker.

[@Scot-Tube]

'Brynhildr' ...so Tarantino saw this

[@Raymint]

Mark Kermode, of all of them, knows exactly how to watch a film so when he says something's not working he's usually right. You'll do well to listen to his reviews on BBC 5 and see that he ISN'T "sleepy". In fact he's the one defending all the movies the REAL sleep heads are trashing and the best thing about him is, he'll go and see films twice just to make sure he hadn't taken things the wrong way. He's THE God of cinema.

[@FastEddie86]

You’re a slave

[@FastEddie86]

Shut up

[@Poinsettia222]

"i understand more about about poetry than you will in a lifetime" I lol'ed.

[@charliechutney]

I love the Yorkshire guy.... "Eee bah gum, it were a reet good film. I saw't first one on veedeo. It were great, but ecky thump it were bluddy. I ad to watch this one wimme eyes behind me 'ands. But it were great. I really felt for't Uma Thurman lassie. I really got into it. Magic, ace, really bluddy great. And thanks for inviting me on your show, luv. Av had a reet gud time".

[@badhead]

Bonie Greer says it is a deeply feminist film. Germaine greer says it's as feminist as wagner. But which one is right? FIGHT!!!!

[@raoul3605]

that large man's accent is funny

[@pippipster6767]

‘Complete the experience’ and ‘make the experience complete’ is exactly the same thing

[@adamgrimsley2900]

If you think that you don't just get it.

[@pippipster6767]

@@adamgrimsley2900 Yeah … I’ll have to work at being pretentious 🤣

[@adamgrimsley2900]

@@pippipster6767 thanks for proving my point

[@pippipster6767]

@@adamgrimsley2900 You’ve clearly achieved it … well done.

[@adamgrimsley2900]

@@pippipster6767 yeah that doesn't quite work either, have another go

[@jc13jach3]

Ironic comment! Kermode actually likes Twilight.

[@robertmcelwaine7024]

He also likes Howard the Duck.

[@alexanderthorne635]

Greer does her usual trick of turning everything into a 'anti/pro-feminist' critique, which is not the point at all. McMillan is a sound guy (I met him during one of his book signings), and he is very much what the 'average' filmgoer would get from Kill Bill 2. Kermode really nailed it once again though. Tarantino simply being self indulgent and making films solely for himself to enjoy.

[@mickylove76]

I love these movies. But I understand if you are looking for something else, these aren’t for you.

[@SharkTheBruce]

Go Kermode, Go kermode, Go........ LegEnd

[@bazzoman510]

They are bad movies, he hasn’t made a great movie since Jackie brown. Hes made some decent ones, Django, The Hateful eight. But people are now saying pulp fiction is overrated, interesting, considering it was so revered at the time.

[@TulseLuper]

Untrue. The Aviator is an excellent film and Bringing Out the Dead is an underrated classic. Even his weaker films like The Departed and Gangs of New York still have flashes of brilliance here and there. Tarantino, on the other hand, has never made anything with half the amount of depth or intelligence as Scorsese even on an average day. After building up his style to Jackie Brown, by far his most mature film, he threw it all away and frankly has stopped trying. That's the problem.

[@antitroll890]

ever notice how Tarantino fanboys get all defensive whenever somebody posts a differing opinion to their own?

[@65g4]

I would im a tarantino fan boy that thinks he pretty much walks on water

[@joetotheflow]

He doesn't seem to understand that IT IS A REVENGE MOVIE ABOUT ROARING RAMPAGE OF REVENGE.

[@255ad]

@MrKeepitunderyourhat "Tarantino is one of the biggest let downs in cinema" in general or just this movie?

[@agentk1986]

@Transformers2themax: Hollywood has been a global brand for half a century now. What does it matter what country you are from? The Kill Bill series is only partly inspired by American themes, as there is a lot of Asian motifs that inspired Taratino. Not too long ago Mark Kermode named his top ten films; almost every one of them was a Hollywood film that took place in America. His favorite film is The Exorcist.

[@captain07234]

Me to, Kermode is absolutely right about Tarantino.

[@Mamba4.8]

Critics of this movie miss the point. This movie is a celebration of spaghetti westerns and Kungfu/samurai cinema, and it is a masterpiece of it.

[@wb8905]

Basically everything mark is saying is how I feel about ‘Once Upon a time in Hollywood.’

[@MovieMaker2100]

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is Quentin's worst so far. There's no storytelling and it just fixates on Quentin's nostalgia for 1960s Hollywood. Probably the most boring experience I've ever had at the movies by far.

[@louisdavies8050]

Couldn’t disagree more. It’s a mood piece fairytale of that era and for once he has genuine characters (aside from Jackie Brown). Yes those characters are archetypes of the characters he loved from the 60/70’s, but they aren’t archetypes of Tarantino himself (which is every character in every film of his is bar Jackie brown). Kill bill films and death proof are by far his weakest films.

[@louisdavies8050]

@@MovieMaker2100 and that’s the problem. Mainstream fans love Tarantino because they want non stop violence and dialogue quips.

[@MovieMaker2100]

@@louisdavies8050 I don't care about the violence, I care about the storytelling. I stand by my opinion.

[@WhiteWolf496]

The nicest thing I can say about ouatih is that it looks nice. I really dislike the movie with a passion.

[@michaeldonovan4793]

the second GOAT sequels after godfather 2....

[@255ad]

@Transformers2themax no it's to you it's got your user name on it and every, you just did get message telling you about if for some reason

[@soulofshiver]

Atleast Germaine Greer isn't as cripplingly stupid as Bonnie Greer, who called it a "feminist masterpiece"

[@KERSTEN27]

QT plummeted with this one. The first KB was totally absurd and totally fun. The second is more like Jackie Brown, but with dialogs for teens. This one is absurd too, but fails to thrill other than during the heroine's confrontations with Madsen and Hannah. Overlong and leaving you wondering about the current interest of ex-wunderkiind Tarantino. An almost absolute bore.

[@hanshotfirst1138]

What is the name of the woman proclaiming it a feminist masterpiece?

[@theF1oracle]

***** Germaine Greer

[@pukeyourguts]

+hanshotfirst1138 that was bonnie greer in the review for vol 1. germaine greer (along with the rest of the couch) said it was far from feminist

[@edmund184]

@spielme Part of the pleasure of this series is people who would never see what they're reviewing being made to comment on things they know nothing about. It's always contrasted with another guest who is a sort of expert.

[@thatguyyouclickedon5091]

I liked Kill Bill 2 but I though the ending was lacklustre!

[@thatguyyouclickedon5091]

But I respect their opinion!

[@Hickey66]

Perhaps this is not the place, but Kill Bill is sadistic.

[@311Essie]

Wait, do people in other countries pay attention to American movies this much?

[@smithhedgehog]

good for you

[@westerling8436]

Cry me a river

[@tardiscrew6766]

Mark was wrong about the first film but right about the second one

[@TimmyHowles]

You have to appreciate that to most critics, certainly Mark Kermode, films are something more than entertainment: they're an art form. Where most people can sit through a summer blockbuster and enjoy it, critics can't because generally these types of films are badly made. Kermode once said that if you're a critic that has never been called a snob then you're more like a showbiz correspondent. I personally think Kermode is the best film critic, but I don't always agree with him, I liked Kill Bill

[@thisisthegloaming]

hey hey it is tim robbins

[@guitarreilly]

kermodes little review here was majestic

[@ASDMarauder007]

To me personally Volume 2 was better. Its everything you want from a tarantino movie, pop culture, great kick-ass soundtrack, killer dialogue and over the top violence. If you disagree with me, i'd like to talk about it. Personal Message would be better.

[@paulklein8048]

I like McMillan's voice, but i do love Mark Kermode.

[@smithhedgehog]

he is, and he's meant to be a 'poet'...poet my arse!

[@molly0000000s]

Aye, they tend to manage spelling 5 letter words like witty correctly.

[@johngilmore697]

Lynne, I'm on god's side! I can't stand the devil. I think he's bang out of order. I think he's an evil, evil idiot!!

[@fastville]

cause he ate the skinny ones? is this a trick

[@90mv]

enjoy the faces ? LOLLLL the heck

[@mtbdudes123]

@GaXGGPR In Essex? One of the poshest places to live in England? Try Hull mate, there's a shit hole if you ever saw one!

[@film4thefuture]

Germaine Greer is Australian.

[@TulseLuper]

Of course he wouldn't care. I wouldn't care either if I were him. Doesn't mean I'm not entitled to my opinion.

[@buttonman6262]

There were some brilliant scenes in both KB films but some of the dialogue was ridiculous.

[@cheekyegg]

i think the only way to watch vol 2 is as a comedy

[@colourlessbluethings]

Eh, he explained why quite clearly.

[@Faboba]

Mate, the comment was a year old. If you don't know what 'erudite' means (or... I dunno... 'sparkly', is that the issue?) don't take it out on me. I don't care about you or your strange Kermode antipathy.

[@nath909]

always right is Kermode, Mark

[@OTJ8995]

@wolfpack2013 By this point in entertainment history if an idea hasn't already been done to some extent; there's probably a very good reason.

[@255ad]

@Transformers2themax how come it took you two seconds to write a long winded reply to a simple spelling mistake but your ignoring my second actually detailed response to you?

[@65g4]

Mark kermode is wrong with kill bill. I wonder if hes revisited it years later and maybe he might like it more now

[@Goochbot]

@TheEvilelvis89 Lol. When Mark trashed KB1 for not having 3D characters, i had to resist the urge to comment on his love of the Twilight series. I mean KB is no masterpiece but its 100 times better than those borefests.

[@MillaHead]

wow, that other guy is jealous of Tarantino: "Molten saviour of cinema"

[@ksmiley0]

i think kermode puts QT on a high horse and he got a little over hyped. But then again im not that sensitive to movie violence. :\

[@255ad]

@Transformers2themax I did write a second reply to you, it's three comments below this one

[@adicakes]

thats true why cant we just enjoy the faces :\

[@Goochbot]

Germaine Greer slams another film as sexist...theres a surpirse :/ Also Mark's criticisms wouldn't have annoyed me half as much if he didnt recently give glowing reviews to both Twilight movies and High School Musical 3. are there any characters in twilight anybody cares about? i didn't see any in the amount of the movie that i could physically stomach

[@Poinsettia222]

Aw, are you done with QT forever? Let him know personally. I'm sure he'll care...

[@villaparis2]

Oh please bring back News night Review BBC a serious discussion programme about Arts Culture not fucking politics

[@ciaracustard]

@TheEvilelvis89 I think you answered your question.

[@ivanvoronov3871]

Kill bill is art

[@OTJ8995]

Hate when critics smugly run down a movie while showing they know very little about the intentions of the creators. Trying to bring feminism into it is stupid although it seems un-feminist to criticise it as un-feminist. That view seems to come from woman and drama-queen men who don't know that Uma didn't do anything men weren't doing in action films for years. In fact early kung fu films always featured woman in the hero role.

[@allaboutdmagic]

Ah, Mark. I respect you. Don't do that lazy critic's tic of "It's got comic book characters/plot/dialogue". They're two different mediums, unless it's directly adapted from a comic it's not trying to be one. Don't fudge the two because you've got a prejudice.

[@TheDensley7]

What's a poet supposed to look like?

[@Keenan1996]

I disagree with Mark on this. I think all of Quentin's movies are fun.

[@comanchio1976]

I happen to agree with him, but at least you expressed your disagreement without getting nasty, personal or questioning his parentage - which makes a refreshing change!

[@hightechterror2859]

True, I don’t think all of his films are great but they’re all a fuck load of fun

[@richardadesmond]

The first Kill bill film for me was fun, I could feel Quentin was having fun and playing with the genre, but in the 2nd I didn't get any of that...though I still adore Tarantino.

[@Blowjegek]

@fargo501 awesome argumentation dude :P

[@Poinsettia222]

You wouldn't know poetry if it came up and smacked you in the mouth (which, incidentally, I wish it would). Ian McMillan is quite, quite superb. He doesn't take himself or his profession too seriously. If only others were more like him...

[@lewisfilms]

Great flicks. Can't wait for Vol. 3!

[@megamoviez]

It’s over. Let it be over.

[@thealchemist1111]

@@megamoviez Any minute now

[@blastmedia3218]

@@megamoviezThat guys comment was 10 years old

[@tirenato]

I usualy like mark´s review´s, he makes agood point of things, but ever since he made a video apolagising for a previous bad review of AI by steven spilbeerg,just before an irtevew with him, i sord of lost respect for his reviews. He already saw him trash movies far more interesting than AI. so to his review on kill bill, i say "suck it Mark", you completly missed the point.

[@danielplainview2584]

AI is a way better film than Kill Bill, with actual philosophical insight.

[@thecolorunknown]

@Bassbait No , don't!! How will I ever get a job or girl if I get a comment voted down on youtube!

[@Howler15]

4:30 pompus you? get the hint

[@louisplatten7707]

These movies are great but I think Tarantino's masterpiece will always be Pulp Fiction

[@255ad]

@255ad *didn't

[@GetToDaChoppa-k5r]

Inglorious Bastards was a return to Tarantino at his best, so I wish people would stop moaning about him all the time. The Kill Bill films didn't have to compete with Quentin's earlier work, because they are still entertaining films in their own right. I will admit I prefer his older films like Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown, because he does these type of crime films very well, but he is still a very talented filmmaker!

[@chrishiggins7166]

The film’s well acted, well directed, well written, very stylish, action packed & is A violent & better sequel. (88%) (4.5/5 stars) (positive)

[@TrueEnglishMan01]

Oh not you again. Bugger off

[@MrKeepitunderyourhat]

@66633 I never get why grown adults feel the need to slate the HSM films. Theyr'e kids film, why were you watching them in the first place!? Kermode reviewed them as kids film, and as pieces of harmless fluffy nonsense, I'm sure they're perfectly fine. And Kill Bill isn't amazing, it's just stupid. Tarantino is one of the biggest let downs in cinema.

[@gladroad]

Here's the thing the sexual politics were all over the place

[@johngilmore697]

Lynne, I'm on god's side! I can't stand the devil. I think he's bang out of order. I think he's an evil, evil idiot!!

[@thecolorunknown]

@Bassbait You sound too upset sir. What have I done to displease you so? Please accept my most humble forgiveness on this day, for I am a fool! In any case, Microsoft just called...they heard I didn't get voted down on youtube and want to make me their CEO. I told them I would call them back after my dinner with Jessica Alba, apparently she loves men who don't get voted down as well. You have filled my life with joy, I shall repay you with a smiley face. :)

[@MrJohnybirchall]

So lazy. Germain and mark forgot to mention the climax. The part where Bee was the sole inheritance to the 5 palm exploding heart technique. But more so it was about gender equality in violence. The consequences of having physical power and the bloody, messy journey of revenge.

[@meowpacino21692]

This whole review is like NPR level humour.

[@tkeller3414]

I like kill bill bc it's entertaining but to say its a feminist masterpiece is a bit naive

[@WillLovesDeathMetal]

Compared to Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction? I highly doubt that a couple of style-over-substance, self-indulgent homages to old martial arts films will be remembered over 2 of the greatest, genre-defining films of the 90s.

[@dickthebirthdayboy2132]

I mean Kill Bill is still fondly remembered

[@wolfpack2013]

@Transformers2themax There's not much to understand. He can't make an original film.

[@christoboyyy]

Kermode is a learned critic and yeah its easy to see his points. The fat poet? Hasnt got a VIEW on the film. He just went cos there was popcorn...

[@Cyberpit2000]

How they managed to completely ignore Michael Madsen in that film is beyond me, him as Bud is one of the best performances I have seen the guy give

[@Shaki123]

It's definitely his best role.

[@til_thasmokeclearz853]

does anyone else think reservoir dogs is overrated?

[@chrisjohnson3431]

+Kevin Matta I was blown away by it when I saw it in the cinema back in 93. That experience has never been replicated since. I've possibly seen it about half a dozen time now & feel I never need to sit through it again. For me it's not one of those films that gets better each time I see it. It feels like one of those films where there is nothing new to discover. Once you've seen it you've seen it. Pulp Fiction on the other hand never fails to deliver.

[@til_thasmokeclearz853]

Chris Johnson exactly.. You duplicated my thoughts on the film

[@efnarios]

+Kevin Matta no

[@til_thasmokeclearz853]

***** cool

[@Starzagal]

Recently watched Django and Pulp Fiction - my first QT films- should I watch Reservoir of Jackie Brown next?

[@Faboba]

@paulod27 Your opinion invalidates itself. Kermode is the most pretentious film critic? Watch any other episode of Newsnight Review with a different film critic on and you'll see how wrong you are. That Kermode is erudite (when it comes to cinema) does not make him pretentious. The fact that he gave a bad review to a film over-reliant upon references to obscure genre cinema and a good review to a teensploitation piece of shlock about sparkly vampires is proof proof he's not pretentious.

[@borednow5838]

Think Mark is pretty much spot on. His first three films are his best, but everything since then has ranged from avenge to bad. The Kill Bill films are just too showy and smug for me.

[@grindhouse74]

Dr Kermode, you are so wrong about Kill Bill vol 1 & 2, it is a masterpiece...Watch it again back to back...

[@WAAAAAAAAAAAY]

I saw Kill Bill for the first time a few days ago........and HATED it!!! I thought it was all over the place. I love Tarantino [especially Jackie Brown and Resevoir Dogs] but this is absolute crap. Right again Kermode

[@nath909]

Go watch Hannah Montana then.

[@robertmonaghan6263]

Poor 2 stars

[@TulseLuper]

There was a time when Tarantino was a great artist. I love Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs but crucially those films paved the way for Jackie Brown which showed what an effective storyteller he could be on a serious level. Now, he's become a retrograde sell-out. I'm crossing my fingers for Inglorious Basterds, but if that's no good, I'm done with QT forever.

[@giallomadman]

@00woolley True words.

[@SoupieGuitar]

pulp fiction, reservoir dogs an jackie brown are great, but kill bill was pretty shitty, I'm not sure about inglorious basterds, there were some great sequences, but it dragged more than a dog cleanin its ass after a shit.

[@eliinnos]

Kill Bill 2 is a steaming turd.

[@metalgorilla7865]

Am I the only one who completely loves Kill bill