Mark Lewisohn's Rift With Apple |

Beatles historian Mark Lewisohn has been working on the much anticipated Volume II to his expansive Beatles biography, All These Years. In this video Matt explores some of the elements that make writing a book on this scale long, difficult, and frustrating. His rift with Apple, the Beatles company is one of these frustrations and Matt describes these in detail with the help of two excellent Beatles podcasts, Nothing Is Real and Let It Be Beatles.
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[@richardjordansongs]

Regarding John Barrett, he wasn't someone who was getting on in years and being "put out to pasture". Rather, he was a young balance engineer at EMI who had been diagnosed with cancer and had asked Abbey Road's General Manager Ken Townsend if there was anything he could do to keep his mind occupied while undergoing chemotherapy. That's when Townsend suggested he listen through and log all of the Beatles tapes. He apparently did a fantastic job of this and it ultimately laid the foundations for Lewisohn's 'Complete Recording Sessions' book. John Barrett sadly died in 1984.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you for that correction, Richard.

[@Chucklea9]

'Complete Recording Sessions' is a wonderful book and it is nice that it is now accepted that others, apart from the author Mark Lewisohn, played their part. Well done for bringing it to Matt's attention and kudos to Matt for his gracious acknowledgement.

[@johndowling5850]

I'm afraid a sense of entitlement is becoming more pervasive as the years go by. It doesn't do anyone any good.

[@BeatleSimon1969]

I spoke to Mark briefly at the end of the first ‘I Am The Eggpod’ live event. He was very friendly and approachable. To my knowledge, I can’t think of any other artist who has a dedicated fan like Mark who wants to chronicle every aspect. He is also brilliant at acknowledging that he doesn’t know everything and will rectify any errors he has made.

[@michaelrochester48]

Mark and I have corresponded in the past. His first volume had some inaccuracies about the Beatles Genealogy, especially about Ringo and I had to set him straight with some certificates and information I found on Ancestry from actual baptism records and he was very pleased and he said he was going to use my information as an update in the future volume of the Beatles.

[@richbailey8174]

I think he is very appreciative of these things. To some he can be seen as a know-it-all (and he actually does seem to know it all!..:)..) but he is more interested in getting it right and the details are important. The only thing I think he blew it on was the Pete Best story. Epstein had approached a number of drummers before they settled on Ringo. Ringo wound up to be the best (pun intended!) choice but he wasn't their first. Lewisohn wants to promote the nice tale that they always wanted him which is the same yarn Paul and George promoted over the last decades. They're not going to publicly say "Yeah....we settled on him!"..:)...I have seen Lewisohn challenged on this many times and he gets real pissy about it because he knows he's wrong.

[@nickdryad]

Call something Apple and it’s gonna go bad. It’s biblical right?

[@zjokka]

Who cares about Ringo's baptism? What does this contribute to understanding the musical phenomenon called the Beatles? Anybody want to hear where the idea for 'Hey Jude' originated?

[@michaelrochester48]

@@zjokka I care. And a lot of other people care because there’s been a lot of faults said about Ringo including that he’s the only Beatle without Irish ancestry and it’s not true. One of his ancestors name Cunningham was from Ireland. I care. And a lot of other people care why do people watch shows like who do you think you are and finding your roots when it’s celebrities and not your own Ancestry?, I get it. Because people care.

[@michaelrochester48]

@@zjokka understanding of the family background is essential to knowing how they became who they became. Doing my own ancestry I learned so much about myself to learning about the prehistory of my life. Maybe because you’re adopted?

[@BeesWaxMinder]

I met the guy(semi professionally)& he was lovely; hard working & knowledgeable -a MEGA fan

[@CarolYannes]

Matt, thank you for the update on Mark Lewisohn and the projects he is working on. I had a feeling your next video would be on the Beatles but I thought it would be an American album release review. This video was great. God Bless Mark Lewisohn and his dedication and determination.

[@PeteZolli]

Well said. "Tune In" is an astonishing work of scholarship, and a far better book than fans of a pop band have any reason to expect! Regardless of what does or doesn't get published in the future, Lewisohn has my thanx and respect.

[@Freakaboogie]

i've been loving Lewisohn's work since the 80s. fascinating video as i hadn't heard the latest about the working relationship going sour. thanks!! your channel is a terrific source!!!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you!

[@michaelpdawson]

Thanks for this update. I hope we all live to see Vols. 2 & 3 published, but in any case I am very grateful just to have the stunning Vol. 1, and I wish Mark Lewisohn all the best.

[@christiandoll4435]

Thank you Matt for this information.

[@Corleone1891]

What a great episode! Very insightful.

[@mwilhelmindetroit]

Lewisohn is the irreplaceable historian of the Beatles history. I've read and enjoyed many Beatles books and it true that many of the authors just largely regurgitate material "discovered" by someone else. Lewisohn doesn't do that. As a actual historian, he takes the time to do the research, like finding original sources, questioning them, if possible, and examining the relevant documentary evidence to try to arrive at the closest we will ever come to the objective truth. Without evidence, even the principals involved can misremember events. Lewisohn knows that and tells the best story he can, even if it ruffles some feathers along the way. Every true fan should get their hands on an Extended Edition. It's a revelation and a masterpiece. Thanks for what you do, Mark. And the same to Matt.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, I will stay on it!

[@KneeAches]

I read the “long” version of Tune In twice! Absolutely loved it. Have been waiting for the next part. Nothing is better.

[@jacobmarleyvinyl380]

Such a thoughtful, intelligent and insightful video. Mark Lewisohn should be knighted for his books on the Beatles. I also read the entire two-volume Tune In. For those of us who write books on the Beatles, Mark has always been helpful and generous with his valuable time. Keep up the good work. Steve Matteo

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Hey Steve! I appreciate the comments. Good to hear from you.

[@1208bug]

Good work covering this, thank you!

[@dreammachine2013]

Many thanks for the info on Lewisohn, whose scholarly researched books are a real treasure! ❤ The rift with apple and Olivia is just crazy and unworthy😮

[@rogertemple7193]

Another great episode about the Beatles and Apple Records thanks Matt.🎶🇬🇧🎸🎸🥁🎹🇬🇧🎶

[@jespernielsen8549]

I was 13 when I heard The Beatles on the radio in 1963 and I've been hooked ever since, but it's sad knowing that I probably won't be alive to read volume 3 of Mark Lewisohn's excellent work.

[@denpea-mm8zr]

Thank You ! for this outstanding video update Matt. I'm one of those who has read the extended special edition of Tune In at least 3 times (maybe more, not sure) and have been patiently waiting for more. It is upsetting to hear that Mark's relationship with Apple has soured for no reason at all. Hopefully the book can be completed. I did experience the Beatles in real time and am grateful for that.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, denpea!

[@BeatlesCineYOtrosTemas]

Great video, thanks for sharing all this new information regarding Mark Lewisohn. Cheers from Mexico City!

[@bea78tles]

Mark is a true Beatles fan and talented writer. Edit: My question to people who would criticize Mark for not having the new book out is this: Would you rather have Mark put out a book that he feels doesn't do justice to The Beatles' story? If you do, then I respect your preference. I would rather he write the book that he feels is worthy of telling The Beatles' story.

[@martinsplichal1581]

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to reading it when it comes out. Cheers Matt.

[@RobbieCalifornia69]

I think the expanded version is absolutely amazing. I guess you have to be a crazy Beatles' fan to read all that detail, but honestly, I thought it was the best Beatle book ever. Mark is a great writer and puts you in the streets of Liverpool and Hamburg ... you can taste the grit, smell the post WW2 decay and hear the primitive rock and roll coming out of the basements.I just hope I can read 2 & 3 before my time is up.

[@terryprill2510]

Oh No!!! so that's why this valuable history is being held up for release. Apple has gone so sour....But even this could make the story more unfettered by them, we'll have to wait and see. Thanks Matt, again, your thoroughness to explain all this to us made it much easier to understand the release delay.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Terry!

[@nicknikipediacaulkin5943]

Fascinating video, Matt, really enjoyed it. Mark is a great and thorough writer and you explained the complexities of writing Tune In so well. Perhaps the situation will change now that Jeff Jones has stood down. Then again, listening to what Mark said here, maybe it won’t!

[@denniswood1437]

It is such a shame that Lewisohn seems to on the outs with Apple as Beatles Recording Sessions is such an authoritative guide. He is way beyond meticulous and Apple is making a serious mistake in not having a positive, mutually beneficial relationship. The sequels to Tune In and his invaluable help with potential future Beatles reissues is sorely needed.

[@DocDoccus]

Apple should be proud of Mark Lewisohn's work and should continue to cooperate with his ongoing endeavors. I will forever remember my encounter with Mr Lewisohn in an elevator at Fest For Beatles Fans in New Jersey 2023. He likes bananas.

[@Greg_vmp]

Really enjoyed this video. I listened to Tune In on audible, but subsequently purchased long and mass market versions. It is amazing piece of work. I am one of those patient ones and trying not to think how long it is going to take to complete this project, but thank God for Mark Levisohn. Hopefully it is not long we will hear from him.

[@kristian_goddard]

I had no idea that Lewisohn was going to incorporate the Recording Sessions book into the next volume of Tune In. I had heard talk of an extended Recording Sessions book. Man, that is some undertaking!

[@sebastianmaharg]

Excellent piece, Matt.

[@alasdair8778]

Brilliant.Thank you.

[@hughjaynis4876]

Absolutely brilliant update!

[@paulcassidy953]

An excellent video Matt. Thanks. All the best.

[@cmorales932]

Mark’s chosen a very rocky road. To be a biographer of a living person (s) or their survivors means that you will be making those people very uncomfortable about owning their own story. Never mind that these are amongst the most famous and influential people of the last century. People who have enormous influence. Another person here drew a comparison to LBJ’s (36th President) biographer, Robert Caro. Caro published the first of his projected 3 volumes in 1982. The 5 th and final volume is still being awaited. Caro wrote about how doors were closed to him by Lady Bird Johnson. Until she agreed to sit for an interview over a brief period. During that time, those closed doors were opened. Only to be shut again after she spoke to him. I hope that Lewisohn can hold out and persevere.

[@neiljackson3133]

I was thinking Robert Caro's LBJ biography.

[@scottiwen4745]

@@neiljackson3133 And Robert Caro turns 89 on October 30th! My other wishlist books (besides these biographies) that I worry may not be finished are George R. R. Martin's "Winds of Winter" and "A Dream of Spring," which would complete the "A Song of Ice and Fire" series (i.e. Game of Thrones). But I am no longer mad or disappointed that these books may not be finished (kind of what Matt was suggesting), and focus on being thankful that I was able to enjoy the excellent books that were made available.

[@pdd60absorbed12]

Nice work, Matt. You're more than qualified to interview Mr. Lewisohn if that could be arranged 👍

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I hope to do that some day.

[@Pharoset]

John Barrett was not being "put out to pasture;" he was dying of cancer and he was given the job of going through the extant tapes to get his mind off of his problems.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks for the correction, Pharoset.

[@barryballinger5912]

This is an excellent honest video thank you

[@stuartbayens4495]

Just adding to the chorus ... Thanks Matt. Great work as always. Just another case of the greedy hanging onto, and re-writing, their own history. I wish Mark well and I hope I live long enough to see Books 2 and 3.

[@ediblehorse]

Thanks Matt! Another great vid.

[@TheDoortoBeatMonk]

A cool thing about Lewisohn that is Phillip Norman's book, Shout!, is that Mark provided, for the first time, the definitively researched date of the day that John met Paul at the Woolton Village Fete, as it had been previously reported anywhere from 1955-1959. No one knew the correct year, let alone the date, or even how to look it up. Lewisohn figured it out, and fairly simply as well. Mark is also discussed in the Epilogue of the book, on pages 396-397, which demonstrated how Beatlemania has lived on, as a 22 year old man listening to boots of the Decca sessions, Hamburg Tape, and a Christmas Fan Club record, and is described as the "Beatle Brain of Britain." Reading this boot in 1981 was my first introduction to Lewisohn. Greater things were to come, as we now know. :)

[@SurferJoe1]

Extremely interesting- some of this excellent channel's best work. I'd had it in my head from years ago (or misheard?) that Barrett was ill when he started his work in the archives but this is a much clearer story.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Joe!

[@JackPerram-n2t]

Best segment to date! Thanks.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

That's very kind. Thank you!

[@earlgrey3461]

Thanks so much for this great episode Matt (longtime fan here, I don’t think I’ve commented yet). Mark Lewisohn is the ultimate Beatles biographer. His work is painstaking- it’s mind blowing how much work he put into Tune In (I proudly own an inscribed copy). He’s a great guy too! During the pandemic, he was a speaker at the virtual version of the Fest for Beatlefans. He did a q & an after… for some weird reason there weren’t a lot of questions, so I got a nice 4-5 minute chunk of time on Zoom with Mark. Such a good hearted guy! Anyway, it’s great to see him getting kudos out there. Also good to see Steven and Jason get a little shout out from you, for their magnificent Nothing Is Real podcast! Thanks much, and keep on keeping on!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you for commenting and being a longtime fan!

[@cbennet1]

The idea that Mark OWES us something other than the best work he can do WHEN he can do it is just unreal to me.

[@astrosjer822]

Your best video in a while. Great work! Mark L had stuck to his guns and will do each volume in due time even without no help from Apple at all

[@crunchyfrog555]

The Complete Beatles Recording Session is a book I have a lot to thank for. I had always been a Beatles fan, of course, but it wasn't until CDs came out and I started DJing using CDs and collecting them furiously. I bought the Beatles CDs the minute they came out, and soon after when the Recording Sessions book came out I studied it diligently. With DJing I was of course interested in recording, so this book was everything to me. Not long after this I ended up going back to university and qualified to be an audio engineer. Best of all this was in Manchester right in the heat of Madchester in the early 1990s. So a great time. The Beatles have been regarded as doing things to shake up the recording industry, but for me personally indirectly they caused me to go and learn engineering, for which I'm extremely thankful.

[@matthewstreet1961]

Wow, great reporting and info Matt. Lots of details I was unaware of. My initial reaction is “sadness”. Here’s a guy trying to do justice to the Beatles legacy. A man who’s done so much to enhance the Beatles, and working diligently on the All These Years series, and he gets crapped on! What a travesty. Cheers Matt Street 🎃🍻

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Mr. Street. Good to hear from you.

[@dimitreze]

thanks for the video

[@stevendavis1940]

I lived through the Beatles era in real time, and it was amazing. I love Lewisohn's work and have the highest respect for him. I do want to read the rest of it badly. However, I don't think he can do it. He has too much to do alone, and he has impediments. Thanks for a good video here.

[@QuesoWatt]

That was extremely interesting. Thank you!

[@nigeh5326]

Matt as always a v good and informative video thank you and I look forward to your next Beatles related video

[@bernieforkin2563]

Good work. Thank you.

[@paulbattifora7617]

I got all those in hardcover form. Priceless

[@aunch3]

I didn’t realize I only read the abridged version of Tune In. I’ll have get the complete work now. I just hope Mark is able to get these done just for the amount of effort he’s put into this.

[@Chucklea9]

Yet another truly superb video. I especially enjoyed your philosophical comments regarding people who were lucky enough to experience The Beatles in real time. Some great observations

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Chuck!

[@marcelofroes5661]

I met Mark on Abbey Road in August 1992, when he was listening to all John Lennon session tapes. I sat beside a pile of original 1974 tapes from the Walls and Bridges sessions. That led to nothing and he never commented this.

[@sraileus]

That’s not correct that his work “led to nothing.” His research was the beginning of what became the JOHN LENNON ANTHOLOGY box set. Unfortunately, he had a misunderstanding with Yoko and was removed from the project, but he did 99% of the work for the people who did end up getting the credit.

[@davidg2122]

Good deep, dive back story stuff.Love this vid

[@Joe67343]

Thanks for this post Matt. Lewisohn is the GOAT (haha). Being pre-fame days, I took a pass on Tune-In Vol 1, but Vol 2 & 3 greatly interest me, hope I get to read them. Cheers!

[@Neal_Schier]

I feel kinda/sorta/but not really bad that my first inclination was to think it was Yoko who was blocking it. Not that we would ever have reason to think that she would do such a thing 😅 It does make you wonder though what really is behind the Apple situation. If he had a good working relationship with Neil Aspinall what then could have spoiled it to this extent? This is a pretty deep divide. Not to "both sides" the issue, but I have a hunch there are a few layers to this story. Excellent program Matt. This is why we are proud to be Patreon supporters. This is quality work and metits both support and a wide audience.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks Neal!

[@edwardmulholland7912]

Strange coincidence, I was listening to that podcast with Mark a couple of weeks ago as I was checking out if there was any news about Mark’s next book. Apple is cutting off their nose to spite their face. It’s all about control for Apple - control of the narrative and I’m sure there are many things that Apple wants to keep private, like the shenanigans that went on during those American tours. Lennon talked about the whores and the drugs in the infamous Rolling Stone interview. The Beatles/Apple have a lot of dark stuff they want to keep quiet - it might hurt their business! I understand that they want to protect their reputations and their private lives. I read the first book (the expanded version)and thought it was incredible, the level of detail is stunning so I can see/read why Apple are concerned about Mark going through their closets. Apple is a den of politics with conflicting opinions and personalities - I can’t even imagine the arguments that go on. I wish Mark all the best and I hope he is taking care of his health so he can complete his life’s work. For me, Mark made The Beatles interesting again when I had gotten bored with their music and their story. Cheers Matt.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks Ed!

[@grahampratchett8207]

Hi Matt, I had met Mark at his shows in London, at his show(s). On meeting him, he at the time didn't know my name, Just to him I was just Graham. Later he got back to me because of my Surname (Pratchett). He stood surprised, and told me he had written about me, (and some school friends) in the 'latest' Book that came inside the Abbey Road Deluxe Edition. Having had that deluxe box set. And slowly working my way through the book. I found myself mentioned. Because at that previous months. My friends and I were arrested (and appeared in court, Two Year Suspended) due to attempted stealing of an ABBEY ROAD STREET SIGN. The judge had to have it explained by the arresting constable, what was happening around this year(s). And to Add to your description the person who caught Mark out going through Apple's & The Beatles Private Paperwork. Was George Harrison himself. He wanted Mark thrown out of the building. Thourghly enjoying this.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Graham!

[@andrews527]

ML is doing Apple enormous effing favors in keeping their catalog vital and moving. He is also the most reliable Beatles historian and critic working.

[@Russtyman01]

Volume 2 is quite likely to include The Beatles touring pastimes and behind doors recreation. John and Eleanor Bron, Peggy Lipton with Paul, Mo Starkey with George, and Linda, Jane and Patties rock star adventures would come up. These did influence the songwriting so I think should be included but there is some dirty laundry there.

[@MissAstorDancer]

Have you done any videos on the inaccuracies in "Recording Sessions"? Yes, I know I could probably google that, but I thought I would ask you first. Given this content here, that seemed like the logical thing to do. Thanks for this update!

[@daveidmarx8296]

The supposed Paul-sung version of I Want You (She's So Heavy) that appeared on Rough Notes comes to mind.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I have not. There are many sources - especially the Giles Martin "remixed" box sets which are also controversial and bitched about by many. I may do some instrumental breakdowns in a different fashion than focussing on just one book on the topic.

[@Southlondonsteve]

Roger Scott had the tapes in 1983 to narrate an hour long video presentation that was shown to the public when Abbey Road was opened to the public during that summer while EMI upgraded the mixing desk. I attended twice and subsequently obtained a bootleg of the video they made.

[@miked6335]

Nice video! Bought the cheaper version of 'Tune In' when it first came out. Now you sucked me into buying the extended version! I forgot it was over 10 years ago. Hope things work out for Mr Lewisohn.

[@michael.in.taiwan]

This was really interesting, thanks. I knew about the bootleg allegations, and I thought that might have something to do with his fallout with Apple. But I didn't know it came from Harrison. Thanks for the podcast recommendations.

[@tonyfafoglia2927]

I've listened to a bunch of interviews with Lewisohn over the last 10 years or so. He's mentioned one of the issues of working on this project is that there's always new info coming to light. He stated more than once that there was new information that he recieved but didn't include it because Tune In was already being published. I myself hope I get to read the last 2 volumes.

[@LapsangTe]

Very interesting! I didn't know anything about this rift, so I wondered why he wasn't writing the books for the Beatles boxes. It's really sad, if his version of events is accurate. They shouldn't block someone who is probably the world's foremost Beatles expert.

[@kt9166]

WOW! I used to have that NOT FOR SALE album, and on colored vinyl to boot! And the BACK-TRACK sets! I think I had three of them! What a memory!

[@GuyGadbois-e4e]

From what Mark said, it appears that George had a serious grudge against Paul.

[@Maytricks_Lee_VR]

I would not want to be on either side of that argument! However. No matter what. If Paul hadn't advocated for a very young George to a very cynical John, George would likely be living in Liverpool playing guitar in pubs to a drunken crowd in an Elvis Presley act. If Paul hadn't given George the time of day and not spotted his talent, music today would be very different indeed.

[@TonysMusic1974]

​@@Maytricks_Lee_VRgeorge would not be living in Liverpool today if he had never been in the Beatles. . . .

[@lynnglidewell7367]

George wasn't the easiest person to get along with. Even in small childhood he was known for being surly often times. Just part of the makeup of his personality. He didn't like close inspection. He was a private person, again even as a small boy he detested what he called " the nosey neighbors". Paul liked the kinds of things George didn't. Paul loved performance in front of crowds. He knew how to charm, and how to be pleasant in the public eye. Paul was also the music conductor within the group. He was an "Idea Man." To a degree Paul being just opposite of George would be enough to set George off at times. George didn't like a lot of flare.

[@dancranford5391]

Thanks for the video, Matt. I guess I never gave it much thought about your point of just being happy to have lived through all the history this band made. I was one of the people who was feeling slighted for the length of time for Vol. 2 and 3 was taking to come out and hoping it would happen before I left for greener pastures. You’ve allowed me to rethink my ideas with this fine and different perspective. I believe I’ll go mix a cocktail and rewatch the Anthology series. Cheers!

[@yorkiephil7744]

Thanks for this update Matt. I’m one of the impatient ones! It’s a morbid view to take but my fear is Mark will either pass away or be physically/mentally unable to finish the work. I can understand his wish for it to be a complete work but that quest for perfection when it comes to The Beatles almost certainly means he will never be satisfied that he has everything he needs. Mark has been studying the Beatles for more than 30 years and has said he possesses tens of thousands of pieces of material. Surely he must have enough to make a great second and third volume.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Don't worry, volume 2 is close to being done and he's only 66.

[@michaelschuberth7802]

sadly, George, the quiet Beatle had in the end become the bitter Beatle.

[@petermcgarrymusicandflying]

Correct

[@Deebhoy]

Great video Matt. Whilst the frustration is understandable, I'd much prefer Mark to be satisfied with the finished product because he knows it will be poured over whilst also being cherished for years to come, much in the same way Vol 1 is. Having listened to the man on a number of occasions his passion and commitment to The Beatles and to getting it right shines through. Apple and George in particular, got it wrong, and it is a loss for them. Like many fans I've been very critical of Apple and how they have handled Beatles related products, especially the Let It Be boxset, which is frankly, terrible (The White Album is great though!). I hope Mark completes this mammoth journey and is handsomely rewarded.

[@Tom-el5cq]

Very interesting video Matt! I appreciate what Apple has released for the fans over the years, but I’m sometimes puzzled at their choices & the timing of them. Why freeze Mark out at this time, so many years after the interaction w/George? There have been other similar instances too, Bobby Whitlock comes to mind.🤔😮

[@rosemarybarron4256]

Fantastic video. I had wondered about Mark Lewisohn-just a bit of curiosity as to what his story was, since I’ve seen so many books he’s written, and the long gap after Tune In, etc. I appreciate your videos so much. :)

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Rosemary.

[@davidkornblatt851]

I think the new guy Kevin Howlett needs to work with Mark Lewisohn!

[@neiljackson3133]

Mark Lewisohn always comes over as a decent guy. I read two volume Tune In and it is a weird read because I know what happens in the story but it so exciting.

[@billslocum9819]

Disappointed but not surprised that Mark Lewisohn was frozen out. Reading "Tune In," the strongest impression I was left with was how cold the Fabs were in person when it came to people who had helped them in their climb to the top. I think it's an absolutely fair characterization from my outside view. If it was just one person holding it up, I think there would be push back from the others. Lewisohn is a critical record keeper for the band's legacy while it is still a matter of living memory to our planet. I think if there was a division among the four chairs, it would not cause this total breakdown. So I'm dubious on the Olivia angle.

[@PaulMabley]

I'm glad someone has finally had the guts to scratch the George Harrison Veneer. It's well known, but mostly overlooked, that George was the 'money' Beatle (as reported in a Beatles Monthly magazine I no longer have). I mean, he wrote Taxman!!!

[@sirdavemoore]

Really good episode Matt. Love hearing about Lewisohn and his ongoing research. The Nothing is Real podcasts are up there with your episodes. Superb. Sad that George ended that way about Mark and called him a 'bootlegger!' Sure George would not have been happy is someone said 'He's so Fine George?' as openly? Either way, George is and always will be my hero and Mark is the 'go to' of anything Beatle related... Probably including inside leg measurements 👍

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Dave!

[@mcarp555]

I'd like to mention Lewisohn's work with _The Beatles London,_ which is now out of print. I have a very dog-eared copy that has had much use in my wanderings around the city. And for non-Lewisohn material, the series of books from Apcor detailing the rise and fall of Apple Records.

[@markwestervelt9708]

I guarantee the riff with George had everything to do with money. George was a lousy businessman and was always in debt.George probably wanted to be paid for any information that he would give. Great video.

[@steveleblanc7983]

Volume one's reveal of the true reason the Beatles were signed to Parlaphone made the book for me. Mark's dogged approach got that and more.

[@winsfordtown]

When Roger Scott died the Beatles Monthly specifically mentioned that he had been a secret contributer to the magazine for years, having first met John and Yoko at the Montreal Bed in. Mark Lewisohn may well have been the person he wrote it. I remember George saying that he didn't feel a need to know what happened to the group every single day.

[@MrKaywyn]

He authored and co-authored my three favourite books about The Beatles: The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions; The Complete Beatles Chronicle and The Beatles London.

[@itsonelouder1]

A big reason why volume 2 is taking so long to be published is he's spent many of the intervening years researching volume 3 as well as volume 2 Therefore the wait for volume 3 shouldn't be nearly as long.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Very true. Thank you for mentioning that.

[@John_Fugazzi]

I wasn't onlne last night - i like to see these when they first drop but there's really no difference. What a terrible thing is going on. He's essentially devoted his life to this project and he has the talent to do it. He's the right person but I guess it doesn't matter. I'm glad you brought up how much it takes to write a book. One thing I always do is read the bibliography and sources at the end. It takes so much reading and investigating and in the case of pop culture books, often many interviews, many of which are hard to obtain. Hope this all works out somehow.

[@bilguana11]

From early 1970 on there were dozens of Beatle's vinyl bootlegs that proceeded Beatles Not For Sale. Most had very poor sound quality. So, how did those get out from EMI?

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Good question!

[@TheDoortoBeatMonk]

There was the Get Back Tape, that John handed over to a DJ pre-Let It Be. That started it off, in many ways.

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video have a great day Matt ❤😊 my best friend ❤😊

[@SeaShellEyes_9]

There is more criticism of Mark’s work in the fandom than on the basis of time lapse between volumes. Many McCartney fans feel that the first volume shows clear bias against Paul and for John. I was skeptical until the Another Mind podcast did an entire series on it, including recording how many positive versus negative adjectives were ascribed to each beatle. By a landslide the anecdotes and descriptions of Paul in the book were negative and feminine descriptors compared with the other Beatles, even to describe similar behaviors. For example, John complains about something and it’s him being a rebel, trailblazer and vanguard while Paul complains and it’s him being petulant, whiny, and greedy. I’m not a huge Paul fan (he’s probably my third favorite) but after listening to their episodes they empirically proved their point, you just can’t argue. Lewisohn’s Lennon vs Mcartney bias absolutely colors his writings.

[@jasontheoldmillennial7197]

I think I’m one of those that are impatiently waiting. Ha ha. It’s like every year for the last 3 years I expected him to be finished. The first volume ends right as it’s starting to get good.

[@mikewa2]

I’m an impatient and Mark has mentioned dates for release of 2 before and they have passed. Ai eg ChatGPT has been an amazing assistant to writers and should have sped up the process immeasurably. I’m 74 and lived through the Beatles years and bought all the singles and albums etc so in 1962 I was 12 when Love Me Do was released, my generation were the hardcore Beatles fans, the most fanatical of all the fans and we are dying off. It’s a discussion topic that the people who are most interested may never get to hear all the things Mark has unearthed. I’m not going to rant on but come on Mark, we need vol 2.

[@jasontheoldmillennial7197]

@@mikewa2 agreed

[@grahampratchett8207]

Hello again Matt. I used to swap Beatle Bootlegs with Roger Scott. Because he use to play Beatle Bootlegs Every Friday Afternoon. Like i have and still have the complete Beatles At Shea Stadium etc etc. And I've also got the complete set of John Barrett Tapes (across 8 CDs) All very interesting too. Loads of out-takes and different recordings.

[@barbarakirk3064]

It was news to me that Roger Scott (then of Capital Radio) had narrated a documentary about the early Beatles sessions.

[@Scoundrel12131965]

Kevin Howlett I believe has replaced Lewisohn as Apple's/Beatles official historian, etc

[@perrybarton]

Interesting that on the "Nothing is Real" podcast he declines to name anyone, but in the other interview he doesn't hesitate to do so. 🤔 My introduction to Lewisohn was when I bought The Beatles Recording Sessions soon after its release. Even with its occasional inaccuracies, it's a great piece of work, and it will be interesting to see how he folds the corrected version into the remaining two volumes of All These Years (if I'm still around to read them both). I wasn't aware of the constraints that were imposed upon him when he wrote the original. And FWIW, no... I wouldn't trade having grown up during the time of the Beatles and all of the British Invasion acts. 😎

[@mjanovec]

I think he realized he had to name his detractor, lest others assume that it was someone else. We’ve already seen people blame Yoko in this comments section when it wasn’t her.

[@petermcgarrymusicandflying]

Lewishon is the gold standard. Much as I adore Harrison he has many times come across as awkard and cranky. Sorry but its the truth. But as a musician...amazing.

[@petpatrol1962]

Mark Lewisohn also did a good job as a host on The Beatle Years radio series in the 1990s.

[@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879]

Lewisohn called his book on Beatles sessions horrid and rushed. Sadly. This was a gateway to many Beatles fans so that’s a revelation

[@78zappaf]

Unfortunately it was a coincidence that he released that recording session book... not long after followed by high quality studio recordings being bootlegged. George Harrison only knew about Mark Lewisohn's book. I guess he thought that Mark was the person who released the recordings. I highly doubt that any of the members remembers the mid-80s radio show about the history of the group (and where some of the rare recordings made their debut). Mark does a great service on research. Archived all information on the group and their day to day sessions/concerts/events. It's a damn shame that some folks at Apple refused helping Mr. Lewisohn.

[@kirahastings9900]

I just started reading Elliot Mintz's new book and was thinking about "Tune In" and wondering about the sequel. Thanks for your update.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

How do you like his book so far?

[@kirahastings9900]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Haven't got past the beginning of the relationship. Always thought EM was an odd duck and his relationship with the Lennons was a bit strange. So far, I haven't changed my opinion. I'm selective about which Beatles books I read and I think this is an important one.