CAMERA SHUTTER: Should You Only Use 1/50 for Video?

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[@Mediacable]

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[@nik_b1807]

Hi, Mark! your path is very close to me! I love your vision. excerpt question: I'm shooting sports and I'm not sure if I will slow down the video, which shutter speed should I choose in priority? Thank you very much!

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[@randolphsellars462]

There's one other situation where shooting at a higher shutter speed (or sharper degree shutter) is desirable: shooting a moving subject in front of a green screen. Any significant motion blur (such as 1/50 sec) will make it difficult to pull a clean key with nicely defined edges. Depending on the speed of the motion, it's better to shoot at a higher shutter speed such as 1/120 or even higher. Motion blur can be added back in post after the key is pulled. While a purist might say that artificial motion blur does not look exactly the same, if done carefully, it's better than bad keys that scream cheap looking composites.

[@bogdanpopescu8406]

Good information.

[@randolphsellars462]

@@bogdanpopescu8406, I'm glad the info was helpful.

[@thejamescorwin]

Thaaaaank you. I was really wondering about this since I have keying issues all the time. This would have been infinitely helpful to know a long time ago.

[@randolphsellars462]

@@thejamescorwin Glad this is helpful information. Sorry that you've had lot's of keying issues in the past with blurry edges. I've been in the business for over 40 years and I'm still learning new things - some of which seem obvious. So don't feel bad.

[@mamur1337]

Helpful

[@RichardsWorld]

Shutter speeds counts. Not the angle. No angle in digital cameras anyways. If you video at 30 fps and 60 fps, both with a shutter of 1/60, the blur will be the same. If you video at 24fps and 1/48 shutter, the blur will not be the same as taking video at 60 fps and shutter of 1/120. The duration of how long the shutter is open is what counts.

[@Guoenyi]

That is just the blur in one frame. For motion pictures, the fps it plays at too determines the motion blur. If you put the 60fps clip in your example on the 24fps timeline the shutter angle becomes 24/120 = 72 degrees. I will look more intense and jittery than a 180 degree shutter angle. I am not advocating for the practice by the way since you are effectively throwing away 3 frames out of every 5 frames when reducing 60fps to 24fps which is adding some visual defects.

[@ShadhikAzeez]

I'm a full time youtuber, and this helped me alot. I have watched 100s of videos in same topic, but seriously yours was "The BEST".

[@BarbierLukas]

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[@markbone]

I hope you went and left a message on ELMCU. let me them know I sent you 😬

[@MrDJCue]

How are they colliding?

[@pruett89]

This is the best explanation I’ve seen of this concept - great examples and instructions on how to break the rules of needed. You gotta know the rules to break them.

[@markbone]

Know the rules. Then go break them.

[@Vesnic8]

Nice tips, and if one still wants some motion blur, of a good quality, can opt for Pixel Motion Blur in after effects, tried it even at 1/200 and looks just as good as a normal ratio

[@CANNOTDIEFILMS]

Fantastic video. I had never considered changing from the 180-degree rule until now. Your 90-degree shutter sequences for intense action were spectacular! Still cinematic indeed. Thanks Mark!

[@jmac2050]

i shoot at 24 fps at 1/24 shutter speed , (Not double), in low light situations.. lower shutter speeds will increase exposure but, also increase motion blur; may need a tripod or hold steady. high shutter speeds will decrease exposure but, also decrease motion blur; may need to add lights or shoot in day light.

[@jd5787]

Just gotten a real camera and starting my journey as a hobbyist and this video is really great. It really unpacks a lot of complex concepts in a simple, easy to understand way. Thanks for sharing! Shutter speed changed to shutter angle on my camera!

[@mluckphoto]

Hands down, this is the best video I've ever seen explaining shutter angle and it's ramifications!

[@markbone]

🙏🏻

[@WHOISJEPH]

If you understand how many videos I've watched and not got the answers I was looking for... but bro, you've covered everything I was looking for. Honestly, the best video!

[@a.dproduction8936]

have been filmed for 3 years a lot of wedding, concert, did forgot why is always was dizzy footage. now I did understand it! THANK YOU!

[@nitinb9202]

Your video certainly leaves a mark in explaining the bone of shutter use.

[@rokah1391]

I do find "more motion blur " increase speed impression. When i see a lot of tut preaching the contrary. such as this one . I shot parkour/tricking artist . And ofc i increase shutter speed if i go slow motion . But when i shoot 1/50 in mind that i won't make it slow mo footage . I find their performance to be more stylish and have a more speedy flow due to motion blur . I think this is situational , you can't always say more shutter speed =better for actions movement. I even add some Motion blur in the end with RSMB or force motion blur on after effect.

[@LSJMediaProductions]

Thank you for this video. I learned something thus morning and I've been trying to understand this. I like how you added the fact that it started before digital and that I put it in context for me. Good job!

[@markbone]

Thanks for letting me know!!Do glad this helped :)

[@SouthpawAutoworks]

I was recently (2 days ago) experimenting with shutter angle, and fps, trying to figure out what's best, for different scenarios. I already captured the test footage, but haven't made time to review it on the computer. Chances are, I made many mistakes... Great video, Mark! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and love for video. Appreciate you, man!

[@kimisnaps]

Very valuable information. GREATLY APPRECIATE SIR 🎩

[@markbone]

Thank you MA'DAME

[@gerrymexx4085]

Thank you, very clearly explained. Now even I, as a photographer, have understood why you can't simply change the shutter speed with video, as you can with photography. I never found the previous explanation "this is the case when filming" so plausible ;-)

[@RCwithAdam1]

So good, dude! I used to think that it was a sin to not use a 180 shutter angle. Now I'm interested in experimenting with different shutter angles and frame rates to see how it looks when I had the camera on my FPV drones. 👍👍

[@WasabiNoise]

You explained it really well! I did a lot of photography, I even shoot some weddings and I transferred some of these ideas into video unconsciously (I even have the same ND filter) but I didn't know it was called shutter angle!

[@Dartheomus]

This was a really great video! I understood the basics and why we used the rule, but the examples of when you deviated from the rule was exactly what I was looking for. Fantastic! Thank you!

[@v3zMedia]

Probably the most I've learned about a video technique in years. Great content!

[@gstevejordan]

Totally agree with you about using ND filters to keep your preferred shutter angle (usu. 180 degrees) from going “sharper”/stacatto but I’m not convinced the opposite - going to a slower, or even global (360) shutter angle - is as detrimental to the footage as you suggest. I’ve done some testing with the global shutter angle - I wish you had spent a bit more time here on that- and the results are surprisingly good, provided there’s not too much fast motion in the scene. If your lens is “too slow” for the lighting and you’re shooting a candid interview, or perhaps some slow pans or static establishing shots, it’s a great way to add a whole stop of light (or ISO stop) to your exposure without taking too big of a hit, aesthetically, IMO. I urge all shooters to try it before making decision to treat the slower shutter angle as detrimental to the feeling of the scene as the faster shutter angle typically is.

[@sertaysakizoglu5553]

exactly this. I filmed in 360 shutter angle once by mistake and didn't even notice any difference due to minimal movement. The scene was static and already dark. On the plus side, as you said, you gain another stop of light without sacrificing quality, which can be a lifesaver when you have no light source available.

[@jimcielencki1212]

Question: this begins with using a 24fps, but does the shutter angle vary much if you were using a different frame rate? Like if you were using a 60fps then 180˚ would be 1/120 and 90˚ would be 1/480, etc. Just curious if that makes sense.

[@scorpisces182]

Man, I am binging on your content haha, so good! Love this one in particular... your explanation on when to change the shutter angle is perfect! I very recently starting getting into video and have been sticking to the 180 degree rule (like it or not) but like you explained, for example, at 24fps increasing shutter to 1/100 ( 5:32 ) definitely helps with reducing that blur slightly to show intensity in the scene, but also actually being able to see more of the footage/what's going on as apposed to too much blur. Time for me to start bend the rules haha!

[@matthewheflin4711]

This turned out to be the perfect video for what i was researching. 10/10 recommend.

[@GalazM]

MAN! I just saw Beauty of the Battle... MY GOD!!!! that dance was amazing!!!

[@Pfagnan]

Thanks Mark but different strokes for different folks! Good information well presented but why only from the POV of 24fps??? I shoot EVERYTHING in 60fps and then EDIT in a 60fps timeline. Mark is right as usual but not being broad enough to edit on anything but an old-school 24fps timeline.People it’s 2021 so do we really need to be shooting and editing at only 24fps because that’s what they had available in the 1930´s and 40 ‘s with their old metallic mechanical shutters?!!! We now have the technology to do much better. 24fps has too much choppiness and motion-blur as there are too few frames. Especially when panning or scenes with lots of motion you know what I’m talking about! I have done many tests with this and that is why I shoot at 60fps and EDIT at 60fps that way your audio is still in sync but you have more frames to capture crisp, clear, sharp detail and movement in the scene and especially when you pan!! A little motion-blur is natural but fuzzy pixels when panning drives me crazy. If you shoot AND edit in a 60p timeline, everything stays real-time including audio. Do side by side tests. Try it you’ll see….

[@BioCosmic--Dust]

I agree about liking 60 fps. I noticed recently in an MV shooting behind that they were shooting at 60 fps. Then checking the MV as it was uploaded to KZbin, it was there only in 24 fps. 4K, but only 24 fps. Grrrr. Just guessing but they know a lot of their viewers are watching on a cell phone ! and/or don't have an unlimited data plan with their ISP. So the amount of streaming data or even just the streaming data rate might be a concern for them. BTW that video as uploaded is still beautiful and you can pause it anywhere and have a nice screen shot with very little blur. So they must have been using a fairly high shutter speed.

[@Pfagnan]

@@BioCosmic--Dust Ya the trick is to shoot, edit and upload all in 60 fps. Going to old-school 24 p defeats the purpose

[@BioCosmic--Dust]

@@Pfagnan Would you happen to know the answer to 2 questions I asked in a comment a few hours ago? You might have to sort by "Newest first" to even see it. The 2nd paragraph is a question, and the 3rd paragraph is a question. It's about pro equipment which I'm not familiar with.

[@Pfagnan]

@@BioCosmic--Dust Sorry but I don’t see your questions anywhere!

[@dashthree3538]

@@Pfagnan I think it was "held for review" because when I looked for it with a different KZbin ID yesterday I couldn't find it either! But I see it now. So maybe you will be able to see it now. Anyway, my main question there was to know what the pro type camera monitors mean when they display a number for "Shutter". Do they mean "Shutter Angle" or do they mean "Shutter Speed"? I have been collecting examples of this by screen shots from "behind" videos where they sometimes show this kind of stuff. I suppose now if I post a link to a screen shot that I put into my google drive, KZbin might not like it. So maybe I won't put a link here right now but I can do that as a next step. LOL. Don't want to be taking up too much of your time, but I think this stuff is really interesting. See if my comment is there now - they are stamping it as "1 day ago"!

[@DARTHNEWS]

I graduated college in 2010 and in school we only learned shooting on film. Sup.8 16mm 35mm. & spent 2 semesters learning how to cut, paste/ edit film just for it to be obsolete once I got my degree 😑 The mainstream digital age was still a couple years away. So it's refreshing hear someone with knowledge of actual film cine cams

[@Leprutz]

I think it's also important to say that it also impacts the the lighting of your shot. When increasing shutter speed, ISO needs to pulled up too. Otherwise the picture is darker. Would just be nice to put it out there for those who do not know that.

[@markbone]

I think it goes without saying. If you're monitoring your histogram you'll obviously need to open up a stop depending

[@Leprutz]

@@markbone But that is the thing Mark. That doesn't go without saying, for someone who for instance wants to get in and doesn't know those facts. I mean I know it cause I learned it because I have been told and yes I made the experience. But knowing that impies that you have to think that: if I change that I also have to change that or that. And everything can affect an image somehow. Anyaway... All good. I wish you a very nice week end Mark.

[@markbone]

@@Leprutz Have a great week man!

[@Bradyvic]

That's the best video by faaaaaaarrrrrr about the 180 degree rule. Amazing, thank you !!

[@CaseAlcala]

Good stuff bro! Freaking great info here for beginners like me, keep it up!!

[@markbone]

Thank you for the feedback! So glad it's helping

[@MrAdamChristopher]

very helpful, thank you!!

[@jesplana22]

It’s like you knew what I was looking for ! Good job on this video!

[@markbone]

Thanks mate! Glad it helped!!

[@yesineg5248]

I feel like I should pay for the kind of content you're putting on KZbin. I'm interested in learning timeless cinematography techniques and this is one of the best channels for that. KZbin is full of videos that only teach trendy and eye candy techniques that don't contribute much to storytelling. Thank you for your effort.

[@markbone]

Thanks brother! This is so kind of you to write. If you’re interested in more story telling you can check out our filmmaking course theartofdocumentary.com

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@@markbone this looks cool. do you know when the course might open for registration again?

[@fredrhoadesiii8296]

THANK YOU!!! ✌️😎👍 So far this is the shortest video with the most actual information that gives me a full in depth explanation that is understandable!!!

[@steveturner888]

Thanks, Mark, I have always wondered when not to change the standard 180 rule and know I know, hooray for KZbin university. 🙏

[@markbone]

haha. YT University should give out diplomas

[@cassandra101ism]

So helpful! Just got my first cinema camera and wasn't familiar with shutter angle at all, but this awesome explanation helped me out so much!

[@D4NY301]

Haven’t touched my camera in 2 years, kinda got hooked on the feeling of convenience when using my pocket 2 😂 but I want to get back into filming this year so this video helped a lot. I’ve got ND filters and stuff (my camera is very basic, canon 250D so more for photography but want to get a black magic soon)

[@jd5787]

Thanks. Best video on the topic I found. It helped clear up the confusion I had on shutter angle and motion blur for good !

[@TexasCovertCarry]

Great explanation and examples. Thanks Mark!

[@zsoltpinter6955]

I think changing exposure with shutter speed is not a big deal, but this really depends on what you are shooting for. If you shoot youtube videos, it is ok to play around with the shutter (but I would rather change the aperture first, tho). Do not run out and buy extra lighting or an ND filter when you are just starting out.

[@glmstudiogh]

there's a formula for calculating these tho. for shutter angle, it's FPS X 360 divided by Shutter speed. and for Shutter speed, it's FPS X 360 divided by Shutter angle

[@chosenonemedia8337]

Very good & very clear video! Thank you!!

[@sutv6754]

Excellent video Mark. Thanks again for the lessons. They are gold.

[@markbone]

you're so welcome :)

[@MikeO01]

Very informative. It puzzles me that EVERYBODY talks about, the necessity of ND filters and the 180 shutter-rule. Can’t you get as good as a motion blur in post (like Davinci Studio)? One would be more flexible and wouldn’t have the hassle with the NDs all the time. Hardly anybody talks about the negatives/restrictions of using an ND filter like, color-casting, vignetting, not being able to use polarizers with a variable ND filter which is usually less of a quality anyway, bad stabilizing results, etc. If the motion blur is only done in post, without NDs, how good and easy is the result of a proper motion blur and quality?

[@ToddyIvon]

man you confusing shutter angle with shutter speed, but I love you anyway

[@manuelzarka2559]

Nicely explained. I really enjoyed watching :)

[@cdreyes81]

Glad I found this to explain a little more. My fuji does have 48, 96, 120. I found that these are not like 1/3 stops. This makes more sense now

[@mbusoguma5504]

Yo, Mark, I hope you realise how much of a resource your channel keeps getting, bro👍

[@markbone]

thanks man! that's so nice of you to day. thanks brother!

[@6574256]

Informative and to the point! Great vid👌🏽

[@markbone]

no need to waste time

[@CharlonSerrano]

this is so true! shutter is so powerful it can make or break a scene. Thank you for the in-depth tutorial and for the outdoor sample footage!!! I bet your friend was tired out doing jumping jacks! :) So helpful as always, Mark! :)

[@loudandclearmedia]

I slow down my shutter all the time shooting interiors (real estate property videos). Its not a problem as long as you move slowly, and often a better solution than cranking ISO and trying to clean up that mess in post.

[@markbone]

With environments without motion, it can certainly be used

[@etchd_]

Thanks for this man! Such a great some way to demonstrate this!

[@sonamp7912]

Thank you so much..going to get a ND filter after the lockdown.

[@greybeard4034]

thanks man, great video:) i was laughing at the yellow skintone.. Im not the only one who forgets to put the Bit higher:P

[@michaeltrolove2290]

Very well explained with good demonstrations - thanks!!

[@salvamando1]

Awesome explanations and as a beginner I learned so much! Thank you!

[@vipul88sharma]

So helpful. Cleared all my doubts.

[@davidthegood]

Good explanation, Mark.

[@gigihanmandarin]

FREAKING GOOD EXPLANATION, TQVM

[@dannycymbal]

Great video! Also, I love that you and epic light media are friends!

[@markbone]

Go to their channel and tell them I sent you ;)

[@geejordanjr.4960]

Thank you for that amazing detailed explanation!

[@markbone]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@MrAlwaysOnTen]

YOOOOO, caps so you can see this, the first video I've ever seen thats talked about this, THANK YOU

[@markbone]

YOU ARE SO WELCOME

[@TlangiBaloyi]

These were very helpful Mark. Thank you 😊.

[@markbone]

You’re most welcome :)

[@shashankk.4166]

I was doing 3rd mistake so often..thanks dude

[@markbone]

💯

[@Colms2005]

Excellent explanation thanks

[@pangur780]

Your vids are always educational, entertaining and worth watching. Keep it up Mr Bone.

[@sekhmetcreativeagency7111]

very good explanation

[@PuzzleProjectorBlog]

I wonder what shutter settings were used in Hong Kong action films. I only know they use 22 fps for the wide shots and 24 for the tight shots.

[@MaxPhotoGraphic]

Very very useful, thanks, should be awesome to see the Difference betweeen a 24/25fps @ 1/25-1/30sec compared to the 180° rule of 24/25fps at 1/50sec, with a6600 that makes a huge difference on the iso inside 500-1000iso against 1250-2500iso with my 18-105mm F4. Thanks again and keep up deivering this beautiful content, Max

[@owentaweeruksakul7252]

Thank you for your tips and advice!! i absolutely love it! i know how to use the shutter speed now..

[@KamilROfficial]

Awesome video Buddy! 😁

[@markbone]

thank you!!!!!!!

[@cristinagomezhernandez144]

Hi Mark, I really love your channel, very helpful!! Thanks man!!

[@nolandecreton3325]

Nice vid 🤣 love the ending

[@markbone]

haha ;) go send some love!

[@SuperZardo]

Motion blur is a direct mathematical function of exposure time, sensor pixel size, field of view (or magnification) by the glass used and relative distance of the motion from the camera. A hand moving quickly in front of a fish eye lens, but 1 km away from the lens, exposed with a shutter speed of 1/50 s (shutter speed, not frame rate) using a 0.5 M sensor (low resolution) will likely not create any motion blur at all since it is questionable if the hand can even be seen on the video. A hand moving at the same speed 3 m in front of a 1000 mm telephoto lens used for wildlife or sports photographie, shot with a 1/250 exposure time per frame and with a camera featuring a high resolution 100 M sensor will certainly show motion blur. So the equation shutter speed = 2 times the frame rate does *not* make any sense since things called "shutter angle" are only very indirectly related to motion blur. Frame rate is only about how many times per second an acquired image is stored on memory support, exposure time is the time the sensor will collect photons.

[@SincerelyVIIProductions]

Omg I been looking for this video forever I knew I wasnt crazy ty ty

[@powtaytow631]

Finally found something I understand

[@neoray10]

Good video, much needed one I had to see .I watched it with earphones I could hear a lite beeeeep sound in your vocal audio when you were on the desk speaking but not from your voice overs.

[@luisalberto3001]

Amazing. Needed to see this 2 weeks earlier. But anyway, better late than never. Great vid. Thanks

[@DiaPremiado]

Well done!! Best video about this topic!!

[@sambowks]

Late to the shutter party - maybe someone will read this. In my newbie brain, coming from a stills background - there isn’t blur between frames, but on each frame itself. Imagine 24 stills played back in 1 second. If you have a slow shutter, each of those stills will have motion blur, higher shutter, motion blur will reduce. Then is it correct to assume that no matter what your frame rate is, as high as it goes, it’s merely playing back the stills faster. And whether those stills exhibit blur or not is based on the shutter speed alone and not related to frame rate. Any thoughts

[@dionisiosmelogiannidis5350]

Very helpful info! Thanks for sharing!

[@jennifermedia6288]

Thanks

[@CaleMcCollough]

No, LEDs are either 50Hz or 60Hz power, and you should use 55Hz because it will stop the flicker for both 50Hz and 60Hz power.

[@AprilHtayWin10]

Thank you so much.

[@live4christ297]

Great information thanks!

[@topicruben]

Hahahaha.... we use our hands like Italians do here to talk normally! Great Video Mark! Thanks a bunch

[@roderickarbre6822]

Thanks for this so helpful

[@vladimirtalijan]

Yes

[@CarlBergsdorf]

You know you're going to learn some stuff when the Boneman drops a new vid

[@markbone]

Haha! Mark Andrew Boneman

[@sebaztianbaz5862]

Thanxs for this video. U save my life!

[@JonathanRichey]

I don't think I've ever seen you without a hat on before..ha ha. Digging the new cut!

[@markbone]

Haha. It’s a rare sighting. I need to advertise my wife’s work haha

[@wildflowers30]

this was extremely helpful! thank u

[@ntwatwaarnoldmark7846]

This channel is my happy place

[@AxTechs]

I like using a high shutter when doing sports, or car shots, otherwise, always 180

[@markbone]

100%

[@joepvanuden3913]

So you want more motion blur when filming sports? Cause the higher the number of shutterspeed the more motion blur right.

[@AxTechs]

@@joepvanuden3913 yeah higher shutter so 1/100 instead of 1/50, I don't use shutter angle so I said it wrong in that comment

[@AxTechs]

The higher the shutter the less blur you get, so 1/200 has less blur than 1/50

[@FreddyRodrigues66films]

Great job!

[@TheDude-vx6wn]

Super cool! Thanks man. Subscribed.

[@DriftaholiC]

But if you were playing back at 60fps you would still want a 48th shutter speed to maintain the same blur as 24/48