Marketing in the form of Bike Design - 2023 Specialized Sirrus X 5.0

[@Adam-ts1il]

I Picked one up recently and I just upgraded to x01 derailur and shifter, also changed the tires to tan walls and changed the seat post to the carbon one that comes on the 6.0 Haven't rode it yet at all, wanted to install the new parts first

[@kenstevens7375]

I just ordered one, I plan on some upgrades as well.

[@khairulashab]

possible to fit a 46T chainring?

[@jfrench830]

You sound like me. Was thinking the same tan wall tires of course. I like my bikes, the same way I like my cars! I would never ride it the way that it came. Lol

[@f1hotrod527]

It is a beautiful bike. I saw one hanging on the wall at my specialized dealer and said out loud "what is that?!!" It is a striking looking bike, very modern looking. This color is also very cool looking.

[@zureai]

Yeah. I was going in wanting to look at the cannon dale bad boy but this caught my attention..

[@minnesotasteve]

The main reason I would compare the future shock to the headshok is that in 5 years you won’t be able to get parts and you can replace the fork cause it’s proprietary. I have an old cannondale so I’m familiar with this.

[@atx0025]

That's a pretty bad comparison though. Cannondale went outta business in 2003 and the Headshok came out in what 1996 and didn't even last that 7 year time? Futureshock has been on production bikes since 2016. 1) specialized isn't going anywhere and 2) they've planned a futureshock 2.0 to be released next year. So I don't think it's the best comparison.

[@minnesotasteve]

@@atx0025 Or... you could use a standard size and never have to worry about getting replacement parts.

[@aaronburela432]

Maybe I'm biased because I have the last gen sirrus x 5.0, but I like the design and my bike is great. I commute, ride gravel/road for fun, and I can even play around on green MTB trails on it. My only complaint is that it should have the future shock 2.0, and I always wished I could route a dropper post, but at that point you can just buy a diverge evo

[@frankrizzo7454]

Porsche Zazibar Red is the most awesome colorway too. I have around 5k miles on Sirrux X 5.0.

[@aaronburela432]

@@frankrizzo7454 I have the blue tint. I love it

[@edsinofsky]

I rode it at the store I work at and quite liked the obviously bouncy feel.

[@JitinMisra]

so that diamond in the back is what is allowing for the bouncing?

[@edsinofsky]

@@JitinMisra yes. Cool feeling.

[@zureai]

Plus the seat also plays into the bounce

[@tomv6350]

I get incorporating geometry that creates a leaf spring, but why attach the seat tube rigidly to the part that will be moving up and down a lot? Probably would be way too heavy if decoupled, but would make more sense as suspension. Id rather have a classic rear triangle and more compliant seat/post.

[@zureai]

Carbon fibre seat post fixes that problem

[@hokiturmix]

I live on the 4th floor no elevator. I need "classic" frame to get the bike up on my shoulder. I can't use the "back" bottle holder.

[@TheShavedleggs]

Are you carrying your bike the wrong way? Have you tried carrying it like this: Grab the frame at the lowest point in front of the bottom bracket and position the nose/tip of the saddle on your shoulder. Works fine for me since 20 years, with every frame, road, mtb, enduro, dh.

[@HullioGQ]

I would've loved to see the type of rack that fits in the rear on this bike.

[@frankrizzo7454]

25pound carbon bike? My Sirrux X 5.0 was 21lbs and my Sirrux X 4.0 Men's Elite was 19lbs.

[@bighes100]

Shin killers pedals and non carbon seat post..... not good

[@randycarlson3031]

Just got nice bike love it

[@dareczek2974]

Beautiful bike, is it suitable for long routes on asphalt and gravel? These are routes of 100 km or more

[@1979paranoidandroid]

Do you happen to know what type of bottom brackett is used in this model? I can't find any info on that and am seriously interested in this bike. I have a BSA DUB bb somewhere in the garage that I could use to change this abomination of a crankset :)))) but dunno if it will fit. Or do I need press fit?

[@kristoferhindersson]

Would be nice if someone who has ridden this bike for a longer period of time could give some kind or report on how it's holding up. I think the bike looks really nice but as someone that weights above 100 kg I'm having doubts about the robustness of that shape of a frame. :)

[@dvyntyme]

Great comprehensive review👌🏽‼️👊🏽

[@MLife1972]

I don't know. Using the frame as part of the suspension seems like that's a lot of pressure on that junction, especially if you accidentally hit a pothole. I'm no engineer though, so maybe it's all good.

[@choilive]

As an engineer you are right that there are a lot of forces going on in that area, but this bike is obviously purposely designed to take advantage of the stress-strain curve of the material. As long as its below the yield strength in everyday use - which even a half brain dead engineering team would properly design, simulate, and physically test the limits of - this bike should last a lifetime since carbon fiber does not have a fatique limit. If you weigh 300 lbs I wouldnt take this off any big jumps though :).

[@MrBazsi888]

6.0 also has future shock 1.5?

[@kristoferhindersson]

What make/model is the kickstand seen in the video?

[@khairulashab]

possible to fit a 46T chainring?

[@royevans4581]

As long as it's groundbreaking and not frame breaking.

[@butchpedit4871]

Having previously owned a SoftRide the Sirrus geometry does not look odd at all.

[@luisgarcia22]

These things will be on sale by the end of the year.

[@f1hotrod527]

I hope so. Think I will get a stumpy evo as they are on sale now. And then later in the year pick up one of these on sale. They are awesome looking.

[@stvbrsn]

Not on sale yet, September. And they’re starting to sell out.

[@showze21]

i have this bike and it has enough clearance to take a much wider tire than a 42 mm. so, i dont understand this limit, maybe thats the limit for teh previous model? i think it will handle a 45 mm or even 50 mm tire. ps you can feel and see the frame flex on bumpy gravel roads, comfortable

[@stvbrsn]

Dude, thank you! You just answered a question I’ve had for months. Well, I guess you answered it months ago (probably before I even thought of the question, lol), but I just found it! I’ve been thinking of getting one and was hoping to run Pathfinder pro 47s (or the like) on it, but everywhere said 42 max. My shop doesn’t have one on the floor for me to check out and measure. Still on the fence for now, but this is good info. Cheers!

[@khairulashab]

what's the max tyre width you manage to fix?

[@showze21]

@@khairulashab I’m running 45 mm tires, frame has plenty of space, wheels internal rim width is 25 mm, so that’s not a problem for the 25 mm tires either

[@billz410]

Well.....maybe this will work. Kind of reminds me of that Diverge flat-bar gravel thingy they'v been trying to sell. Seems a little heavy, which probably won't be of much consequence to the everyday 'casual' rider.

[@bighes100]

Why not make a seatpost that has suspension built into it, like my 15yr old Carrera had...... (UK)

[@nigellee7892]

It looks strikingly different and I guess it’s supposed to. Whether the frame’s form is becoming more important than its function though is perhaps the real question. However, in the real world, anyone who has ever ridden a bike which has fairly wide tyres on it (and which might be deliberately slightly under-inflated too), will know that the huge amount of flex they provide is probably at least a 1,000 times greater than that which any frame flex will provide. But I guess there’s more money to made for frame manufacturers in promoting the idea of frame micro-flex than can be made out of rubber tyres.

[@ruelpadernal6051]

Awesome gravel bike

[@f1hotrod527]

They should have used the carbon bendy seat post like the Sirrus 6.0 on this bike, so yes I also think it is a miss.

[@paul5683]

Didn't Trek have something like this back in the 90s?

[@KsAmin-c4i]

Really Cool Looking Bike 🚲✔️👍🏾👍🏾 But, the Frame from the seat Tube down Below Doesn't Seems Much Strong. During a Crash, Frame Could be Damaged Easily.

[@stvbrsn]

Lol. When showing the Specialized website, I noticed the green bar at the top. You should probably log out of your pro account before shooting the video for upload on KZbin!

[@BIIIKES]

Let's remove most of the room for 2 full sized bottles on a bike that's focused on getting riders out on gravel or commuting. You know, 2 instances where it would be important to have as much hydration as possible.

[@heathbarry6015]

It's got room for 3 bottles. Just the third is in the underside of the bottom tube where it might get dirty

[@sebapolver]

Front derailleur?

[@stvbrsn]

Nope. 12 rear cassette.

[@PuffinPass]

I am not their target market at all. Specialized is starting to remind me of Canondale lately.

[@BIIIKES]

You said that perfectly!!

[@HUKIT.]

My lizard brain immediately thinks I’m going to break that thing in half.

[@dyl923gonz7]

do you ever test ride these bikes?

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

Yes, most of the time

[@HardwareAddiction]

Meh, how do they provide such crappy pedals on a $2k bike? their lower-end Sirrus offerings come with proper pedals.

[@pironi2405]

And cheap gearbox

[@oal2928]

Buy the x 4.0, this bike is very uncomfortable compared, I had 600 km before I sold it.

[@CaribbeanCyclist]

Can someone send me one of these so I can drop bar it?

[@koreyhuss381]

Not enough gears for me.

[@FlamesAt1000ft]

Why is looking at this design, making me wanna see a Computer Graphic illustration of the Stress Points in the frame with even a “Human Average Weight” factored in!!??🤔Bettin’ that the image would show some significant “glowing spots” on THAT Frame!! 😬Geez! What do you all think? Seriously?🤨Willing to gamble on the Life Expectancy of THAT Carbon Frame for the cost?? 🫤😒😳I’m sure that Specialized did their due diligence on research before releasing but,…one would STILL wind up with THE BILL💶💰once damaged huh!!??😮😢..just sayin’…

[@Rocky4719]

“Specific rack for this bike” for a commuter bike, the word *specific* means it’s instant garbage. Leave the proprietary nonsense to the high end race machines, if I’m commuting I want a dependable, sturdy bike that can take normal aftermarket accessories. The sirrus 3.0 is more than enough for any commuter, imo (or the equivalent models from any other brand)

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

It's proprietary to this bike, not to what you put on it. As I mentioned it is a MIK rack, and that is the most common connection setup

[@peterbaskind9872]

I won’t get too deep into discussion of force and “moments.” Suffice it to say, that frame serves no purpose, looks silly, and offers no benefit.

[@munstermutch]

That's one horrid looking frame. Sorry. Not for me.

[@Spork123able]

It is odd looking for sure

[@paulovinicius5001]

It’s ugly when you can barely read anything on the frame

[@Woodsy.CRF450]

Some people like that. I love the bare frames

[@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv]

To each his own but for me it looks hideous. I don’t understand the benefit of designing the frame that way. Not only that it lookd odd but somehow affects the structural integrity of that part of the frame, which actually the most important as it’s where the weight of the passenger will be concentrated. Sorry but this is like a joke.

[@TheCdM1981]

This bike is so awkward looking I don’t except it to sell well which means it won’t be around long and unfortunately will have almost zero resale value.

[@zureai]

The frame is patented and since it’s different from all the regular frames , I think it’ll sell better than other bikes

[@TheCdM1981]

@@zureai I wrote this 8 months ago and it still hasn’t sold well in the 8 months it took for you to respond. I assume it won’t change in the near future.

[@zureai]

@@TheCdM1981 I mean they will resell on the second hand market better than some other bikes . But they are out of stock in my local areas. Only have a select few now. I tried getting the off white colour but nobody had the Size in stock. I settled for the red one. It’s a great bike and I’m enjoying it!

[@zureai]

@@TheCdM1981 also… it may not be selling as much cause you have to factor in the demographic that this is catered to. It’s a fairly expensive commuter/hybrid bike. Like your tech bros that bike to the office/coffee shop every day. They’ll see a cool looking bike and want to buy it.

[@TheCdM1981]

@@zureai out of stock doesn’t necessarily mean “selling well”. It means most likely not selling well enough to keep stock.

[@gokhanceterez1043]

waste of money.. yes good beautiful etc but come on just a bike! this amont of money is just waste of money

[@richardwolf6269]

Soft rides were great. Turned one into a gravel bike. Super smooth. Why the hate? Ever own one?

[@richardwolf6269]

Ibis Szazbo and Trek Y bike were in response to the softride. Tom Ritchey and Otis guy also used the softride beams on their bikes back in the day. Also won 🥇 Ironman before the banned it

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

Hate? Haha. I was selling bikes back in the days of Soft Rides and Y bikes. They are ugly, but sure served a purpose.

[@randycarlson3031]

Love mine

[@nickpurdy]

This or the Trek FX Sport 6? @jamesthebikeguy

[@arnoni11]

thanks but no thanks frame design turned me off. ended up getting the regular frame