Goldman Sees S&P Returning 3% Over 10 Next Years

[@micheal_mills]

Gold and Silver are "outside the system" savings accounts for me and only buy on huge dips like we have seen recently. Buying Gold and Silver keeps me from spending money on silly and unnecessary purchases. Holding physical Gold and Silver allows me to quickly pull in emergency needs and sell at my LCS and walk away with cash when needed. Not looking for it to moon and get rich off the purchases

[@DallisonScramosin]

Gold is seen as a safe bet during economic ups and downs. But investing in stocks can be profitable too. Some people lose money because they don't understand how it works. So, it's wise to be careful. I suggest talking to a financial advisor who can help you figure out when to buy and sell.

[@Martina-Alan]

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[@WanderlusttheWorld]

I see goldman underperforming sp500 over next 10 years

[@FighterFlash]

@@WanderlusttheWorld what is in their S&P 500 are they removing NVDA?!

[@dr_flunks]

eloquent.

[@Raniyanhunter]

I've just begun learning about value investing, and I've found that many good stocks are undervalued despite their intrinsic value. If you had $200,000 to create a strong investment portfolio, which stocks would you choose for better returns?

[@garnold-l5p]

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[@Anessa-gibson]

Thanks for sharing. I searched for her name and found her website. I reviewed her credentials and did my research before contacting her. Thanks again.

[@nicolasbenson009]

People choose to buy gold for various reasons, such as it’s historical role as a store of value and medium of exchange, it’s potential as a hedge against inflation or currency devaluation, and it’s relative scarcity compared to other commodities. Gold also offers diversification benefits to investment portfolio due to its low correlation with stocks and bonds. However, investing in gold carries risks and may not be suitable for everyone. Investors should carefully evaluate their objectives, risk tolerance and financial situation before deciding.

[@sharonwinson-m8g]

Investing in gold is a reliable choice, and I plan to keep buying more to make up for my losses. While silver, stocks and digital currencies are also good investment, my collectibles are not as similar. It's important to have clear investment goals and educate yourself on the type of investment that interests you..

[@tatianastarcic]

Yes, gold is a great investment and a good bet against the devaluating dollar, been holding some for awhile now, I’m grateful my adviser’s moment by moment changes in the market are lightening quick, cos who know how much losses I would’ve had by now.

[@Vincent-j8u]

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[@tatianastarcic]

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[@annemoore4461]

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[@ohmakure4716]

I’m planning on moving to Sri Lanka. Wbu?

[@LuuzbelitoPirogovsky]

I have a sis in Philippines Shouldn’t be hard to adapt there and their is good healthcare too.

[@aydin6219]

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[@MafArdoleda]

How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?

[@AddilynTuffin]

I still plan to take advantage of the S&p 500 as leading indicators predict above 10% rise next year despite Goldman's projections, my only issue is how to properly allocate my 7-figure stock/bond portfolio for substantial gains at minimum risk of inflation. Can i outperform in 2025?

[@CandiceHandelle]

Tom Lee has maintained his year end S&P estimate at 5200 which is 500 points below todays level, most other analysts have raised it to 6000. Is this time different? However how do you explain that buffet has over 200 b in cash and continues to sell stocks and the buffet index is at 2 std and at all time highs?

[@PauleAraiza]

That’s why I changed my portfolio around, I had a lot of holdings and not much in the S&P 500 but now I’ve trimmed back everything and my s&p500 holds 41% of my portfolio now, yes I may not get as much in dividends at the moment but I think having a solid ETF as your main holding, you shouldn’t go wrong with that. Thanks to my CFA. This strategy is what works for my spouse and I. We've made over 80% capital growth minus dividends.

[@MakusNakus]

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[@PauleAraiza]

Sure i don't mind. I've stuck with ‘’Jennifer Leigh Hickman ” for years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.

[@MakusNakus]

I just looked up her full name on my browser and found her webpage, very much appreciate this!

[@shanejones8192]

These are the same people that were telling us the S&P would be flat this year, if you listened to them you would have missed out on a 25% return, funny how fast they burry all the times they are wrong, its almost like they have No Idea, and that you would be best to ignore them, and just invest in a low cost index fund.

[@SigFigNewton]

He’s not opposed to a low cost index fund. He’s just saying opt for an equal weight fund rather than a market weight fund to avoid putting too much money into mega cap companies that have been hyped way up.

[@Asdasdssd]

Goldman Sachs has adjusted its S&P 500 target several times for 2024. As of early 2024, their latest price target is 5,200, reflecting optimism driven by stronger-than-expected corporate profits, particularly from the tech sector. Initially, their forecast was 4,700, then revised upwards to 5,100, and further increased to 5,200 due to improved earnings estimates and expectations of solid economic growth in the U.S. The upward revision highlights strong performance in sectors like Information Technology and Communication Services .

[@jakubkouo]

@@Asdasdssd Yep, it's all nonsense. Just hold the ETF index funds and forget about what analysts says. Investment banking = sale business.. the only purpose is to harvest the fees.

[@chatgpt-n8r]

the year is not over

[@meamandev]

I guess Goldman Sachs is liquidating it's portfolio in anticipation of such bad returns.

[@andys3010]

SURELY!!!!!

[@jaym9846]

They already did (to retail investors at market highs).

[@SpaceTravel1776]

They want to create liquidity (buyers) for non-quality stocks Goldman Sachs owns so they pitch the “equal weight” index, which is overweight those types of stocks. 😂

[@tlbue32]

@@jaym9846 Yeah they probably rotated 2nd quarter 2024

[@PP-oz2oj]

They are going to sell everything and buy 10 year treasuries

[@RicardoBell-z5t]

With the Fed cutting interest rates by 50 bps, what do you think will happen to the stock market? My portfolio has performed exceptionally well this year, but I am concerned about the possibility of a market crash and losing my gains though but, it's all on a brighter and splurging side for Gold, should I look that way?

[@KeelySoucy]

Investing in gold is a reliable choice, and I plan to keep buying more to make up for my losses. While silver is also a good investment, my collectibles are not as similar. It's important to have clear investment goals and educate yourself on the type of investment that interests you. I work with a financial consultant regulated by the SEC, and started small, but eventually accumulated over $800,000

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[@tonysilke]

I am at the beginning of my "investment journey", planning to put 85K into dividend stocks so that I will be making up to 30% per year in dividend returns. Any advice?

[@Nernst96]

Investing without proper guidance can lead to mistakes and losses. I've learned this from my own experience.If you're new to investing or don't have much time, it's best to get advice from an expert.

[@PatrickLloyd-]

Yes, I agree. I use a financial advisor too. Same person since 2020. I don't worry about whether the economy is going up or down or sideways. I always ride through.

[@PhilipDunk]

Hello, I'm curious to give this a try. Please who is your advisor and how do I get in touch?

[@PatrickLloyd-]

Sharon Ann Meny is the licensed advisor I use. Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

[@PhilipDunk]

Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.

[@evalangley3985]

Zero credibility from Goldman...

[@stormy3039]

Do the opposite to GS.

[@sukhmaidickoff]

Why? Do you think the SP500 will just keep rising, and rising and rising forever? Do you even know at what high average P/E´s the SP500-stocks are being traded?

[@Bobhenry-c7z]

I got north of 100k now and I got no idea where to dump it bro. I got suggestions to try out real estate or the S&P500 and also with index funds and bonds for consistent returns but everything is jacked up right now.

[@Gracejay-d2e]

Since risk is at an all-time high right now, perhaps you should be a little more patient and return when it has decreased.

[@rebeccaartgallary]

I need the market to go down some anyway. The small pullback at the beginning of the month wasn't enough. Many are overpriced now and buffet sold his. I was looking for a rough setback as I am eager to capitalize on the market.

[@JohnBeen-r3v]

Accurate asset allocation is crucial with an Experts guidance. I have 850k in equity, 300K cash earning 5.25 interest, 685k in 401k, 250k cash account, 120k in car assets ( paid off cars) Gold and silver bars. age is 48. My advisor helped me realign my portfolio to my risk tolerance and it boomed overtime.

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[@JohnBeen-r3v]

SHARON CRUMP CLINE is the advisor I use and i'm just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name

[@epeterson86]

Big surprise they are wanting clients to do private credit and private equity. Makes them more money.

[@simrans3675]

Yupp

[@RobbStonee]

My target retirement fund in my 401(k) had poor returns compared to the S&P 500. I switched everything to the S&P 500, but I regret not doing it earlier. What are the best options for investing $200k for reliable cash flow?

[@ashey-l3y]

I would avoid index funds, mutual funds, and specific stocks for the time being. Right now, the best option is a fixed income of 5%.

[@Tipping-Point88]

you need a certified financial planner straight up! personally, I invest in ETF's and also love investing in individual stocks. yes it’s riskier but am comfortable in my financial environment

[@benitabussell5053]

Accurate asset allocation is crucial with an Experts guidance. I have 850k in equity, 275 cash earning 5.25 interest, 685k in 401k, 120k cash account, 80k in car assets ( paid off cars) Gold and silver bars. age is 48. My advisor helped me realign my portfolio to my risk tolerance and it boomed shortly.

[@A_francis]

pls how can I reach this expert, I need someone to help me manage my portfolio

[@benitabussell5053]

*Marissa Lynn Babula* is the licensed advisor I use. Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

[@gen-X-trader]

If people actually believed this bonds would not be selling off, they would be getting bought

[@geoms6263]

we have bitcoin

[@theackid7887]

@@geoms6263 just another thing to create a bubble

[@ebeyslough]

In sum, Goldman is trying to temp expectations of S&P returns going forward, and of course they are selling their private equity and credit products.

[@rchen404]

What was Goldman's forecast for this period 10 years ago?

[@Asdasdssd]

Goldman Sachs has adjusted its S&P 500 target several times for 2024. As of early 2024, their latest price target is 5,200, reflecting optimism driven by stronger-than-expected corporate profits, particularly from the tech sector. Initially, their forecast was 4,700, then revised upwards to 5,100, and further increased to 5,200 due to improved earnings estimates and expectations of solid economic growth in the U.S. The upward revision highlights strong performance in sectors like Information Technology and Communication Services .

[@Sergio.Barrientos]

“Specifically, Kostin sees the S&P 500 rising 6% to 1,900 by the end of 2014, 17% to 2,100 by the end of 2015, and 23% to 2,200 by the end of 2016.” This is what Goldman forecasted back then… the observed returns ended up being: 2014 = 11% 2015 = -0.7% 2016 = 9% The same gentleman from the video. No model or analysis can accurately predict the future of the financial markets. He may have good qualitative points but data shows that any sort of forecasts from financial institutions are as good as tossing a coin to get insight from the future.

[@rchen404]

@@Sergio.Barrientos thanks this is very useful. Hard to predict madness of the crowds

[@Sergio.Barrientos]

@@rchen404 no worries, have a great one.

[@Parrottptg]

@@Sergio.Barrientos 🤣 exactly !

[@J.woltz48]

I'm at crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $250k portfolio and get back in after Nov 5. So much uncertainty looming due to the election.

[@fromthebirchwood]

i'm blown away! mind sharing advisor info please? i am a young adult living in Miami where i've encountered several millionaires, and my goal is to become one as well

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[@Riggsnic_co]

I have a 3 fund portfolio consisting of 33% S&P, 33% Total stock, and 33% international. I feel a need to focus on complete growth so I went 100% stocks, but does the SP500 and TSM overlap too much to make sense holding both? However I’ve been in the red for a month now. I work hard for my money, so investing is making me a nervous sad wreck. I don’t know if I should sell everything, sit and just wait but watching my portfolio of $450k dwindle away is such an eye -sore.

[@JacquelinePerrira]

there are tons of cool stocks in different industries to watch. You don't have to act on every forecast. I suggest teaming up with a financial advisor who can help you pick the right times to buy and sell the stocks or ETFs you're eyeing. They can give you some solid advice to make smart moves.

[@kevinmarten]

That's awesome to hear! Having a skilled advisor to guide your day-to-day investment decisions, especially with their expertise in long and short positions, risk management, and access to exclusive information, can really make a difference. It's no surprise you've seen such impressive returns, netting over 2.8 million in over 2 years. Keep up the great work with your advisor!

[@Jamessmith-12]

I actually subscribed for a few trading courses but it didn't help much, been getting suggestions to use a proper financial advisor, how did you go about touching base with your coach?

[@kevinmarten]

'Carol Vivian Constable, a highly respected figure in her field. I suggest delving deeper into her credentials, as she possesses extensive experience and serves as a valuable resource for individuals seeking guidance in navigating the financial market.

[@Jamessmith-12]

She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

[@JinNani224]

So why isn’t Goldman selling all its assets and buying bonds???

[@TradingRoadMaps]

be scared and come invest with goldman is what he's saying lol

[@justinuwaidia5873]

Lool they literally are, we’ve seen a clear shift in institutional order flow in the S&P/Nas/Dow over this week

[@XMan-nz9xy]

@@TradingRoadMaps Multiple today for S&P 500 -22 Multiple Feb 2002 for S&P 500 - 45 S&P 500 value growth in the decade of 2002-2012 - 22% My god, don’t these economists look at the numbers? Should you diversify your portfolio regardless - of course!

[@trinityscdc3312]

I guess they are buying right now benefiting of lower prices due to a lot of scared retail investors selling….

[@MegaAshfire]

@@justinuwaidia5873nope, what you on about

[@Epicacactus]

Gee whiz a company that makes its nut selling derivatives and complicated products is anticipating clouds and an underperforming environment that means you will need such products? Shocking 🤣

[@meamandev]

It's Television afterall, why would they give financial advide for free ? I think people should just reverse what they say!

[@jeffreykim8416]

Couldn’t agree more! This is all fud being used to try to pull the market back for greater upward gains

[@willberry6434]

This is the worst call I’ve ever seen. Jfc

[@SgtPence]

They predicted 5-6% for this year. Bunch of fools

[@bostaurus1]

Save this video and check back in 5 years....

[@pacpern9988]

Utter nonsense

[@sportsguy963963]

This guy’s thesis is solely based on historical data, not fundamentals, innovation, or first principals thinking. Correlation does not equal causation. I wish people would use their critical thinking faculties instead of just espousing oversimplified statistics.

[@RobertAllen943]

Yah ... this time it's different right .... hahaha

[@sportsguy963963]

@@RobertAllen943 markets are not that old, using statistical methods that assume the last 100 years of data will persist into infinity is absurd imo

[@justinuwaidia5873]

I mean it’s understandable, markets are currently euphoric. The last 10 years have seen declining interest rates, the next ten years most likely will see flatlined or slightly rising rates. Just based on that alone you can forecast less returns, it’s really not rocket science.

[@Asdasdssd]

They are always wrong in their price targets. This is their sales pitch for expensive alternates.

[@matturner8]

I currently have a $280k stock portfolio consisting of 33% S&P, 33% Total stock, and 33% international. I feel a need to focus on complete growth so I went 100% stocks, but does the SP500 and QQQ overlap too much to make sense holding both?

[@carolpaige2]

You might also follow a lots stocks across other industries. I'll advise you to work with a financial advisor who can assist you decide when is the best to buy and sell the shares or ETFs you want to acquire since you don't have to act on every forecast.

[@frankbarnes22]

No doubt, having the right plan is invaluable, my portfolio is well-matched for every season of the market and recently hit 100% rise from early last year. I and my CFP are working on a 7 figure ballpark goal, tho this could take till Q3 this year.

[@scottarmstrong11]

Your advisor must be really good. How I can get in touch? My portfolio's decline is a concern, and I could use some guidance.

[@frankbarnes22]

My CFA Carol Vivian Constable, a renowned figure in her line of work. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market.

[@scottarmstrong11]

Thank you for sharing, I must say, Carol appears to be quite knowledgeable. After coming across her web page, I went through her resume and it was quite impressive.

[@jackwpetrov]

I've tried investing in various things that didn't work out as I hoped. Now, I'm looking at ETFs as a more reliable option. What are the best 5 ETFs for a beginner looking to invest a lump sum?

[@Suzieshaw1]

In no order: 1) VOO 2) QQQM 3) SCHG/VUG 4) VTI 5) SCHD/DGRO. Personally I put down 1.2m$ on few ETFs, still diversifying. it was this time last year I made my first break through with a liquid 370k. Handed it to a trader here in TX, I get weekly pay out which I put back on long term ETF's. Tesla will be a huge buy for me when the market bottoms.

[@jackwpetrov]

Thank you, I already added VOO and QQQM, can you share this Pro with me.

[@Suzieshaw1]

Yeah, Jennifer Kristie Taylor use her name to look her up.

[@borisVladimir2]

I've added SOXQ, VGT, QQQ, SPLD, and VOO to my portfolio, which Jennifer also helps me manage. Even someone like Robert Kiyosaki relies on an advisor no one can know it all! Having a trusted guide has always been a smart move for me.

[@pabloe1802]

@@Suzieshaw1 Please google Scam Scammer best Asset Manager

[@baffinsansterre]

Since when is it advisable to retail market to listen Goldman Sach call?

[@BarryWhite-h9m]

Great recommendations. So are you saying it's best for us who are not institutional investors to focus on index funds or individual stocks? I want to redistribute my 60k portfolio and I preferably want the asset class with the best return on investment.

[@aas55]

Ok Goldman. The 10 year is yielding 4.5%. If you’re so sure about this, are your money managers selling stocks and buying that 4.5% guaranteed yield? No? Then be quiet with this nonsense.

[@dillyfrank5562]

I don’t believe him. These people didn’t predict the 07 crash and those market returns, but I’m supposed to believe a 3% return? Unless there is a crash, he’s wrong.

[@d.wagnerRE]

Goldman Sachs was bailed out by the US government during the 2008 financial crisis. Goldman Sachs admitted that it would have gone bankrupt without the bailout, which also saved the jobs, status, and wealth of its bankers

[@CIAragDe]

JUST KEEP BUYING !!!!!!! Monthly DCA or Monthly Cost Averaging!

[@raheelakhtar7]

He gave a range. -1 to +7% per year over 10 years. And the mid point is +3%. That gives them so much leeway in this so called projection.

[@simbabuilds9338]

What would the non cap weighted projection be?

[@markchung1372]

Nice one, this gives me 10 years to buy my ETFs at bottom prices and retire in the sunset and after the recovery!

[@SigFigNewton]

Are you capable of having your behavior mirror that belief?

[@SigFigNewton]

What will actually happen is that after years of poor returns, all the narratives will be pessimistic. Everyone will “realize” that their long term outlook has to be “corrected”. Demographics are a very long term trend, and Americans aren’t having many kids anymore… so they will move their portfolios into Latin American markets etc, places with healthier demographic trends that will have been outperforming the S&P by then. And as always people will have bought S&P high and will be failing to buy it low

[@user-yy6jo8ob7g]

Great call, gotta agree with the assessment of RSP over SPX. Good work David!

[@stevemelton4388]

…. or the market crashes, then produces double digits again

[@andypicken7848]

stevemelton4388 That's right much more risk of prices slipping when the market is at all time highs. Another reason why a cash pile is looking more attractive as the market rises

[@RobertAllen943]

Why does no one ever mention the period from 2000 to 2012 where the S&P returned ZERO percent. That's correct 0 % for 12 years. You all have VERY short memories.

[@esqu1re]

Agree. That said, I'd go back and buy at year 2000 prices right now. Or even 2007 prices.

[@RobertAllen943]

@@esqu1re Not if you retired in 2000 with all your money in the S&P. You would not want that. "sequence of returns risk " destroyed you.

[@RobertAllen943]

@@Nvidia-Lover WTF ??? You cherry pick 2 stocks out of 500 ?? clearly you are not a serious person.

[@Panda-gu9wz]

@@RobertAllen943 you are right , my memory is actually even shorter. I only remember Goldman said that 2024 would be flat.

[@ericj9011]

@@esqu1reYou can - pick up some juniper networks and Cisco systems

[@whatsgood22022]

yeah people have been saying this for the last 3.5 years

[@gloriajaimesa2811]

how many times have we heard such market call ? More than i can remember. His range is way too compressed. On any given year, it wont be -1% to positive 7% returns. It's going to be double digit loss or double digit gains.

[@2148aa]

He will not be wrong

[@XMan-nz9xy]

Multiple today for S&P 500 -22 Multiple Feb 2002 for S&P 500 - 45 S&P 500 value growth in the decade of 2002-2012 - 22% My god, don’t these economists look at the numbers? Should you diversify your portfolio regardless - of course!

[@amrititbhu]

If this was true, he would be shorting stocks and not announcing it publicly. These investment banks are so greedy, they never work for 'common good'.

[@alekseygerbyn69]

That's because return for the next two years will be around -50%. And then again we get back to normal 10-11%

[@architsharma292]

why is valuation not correlated with concentration tho

[@MickyGlover]

I have a 3 fund portfolio consisting of 33% S&P, 33% Total stock, and 33% international. I feel a need to focus on complete growth so I went 100% stocks, but with Goldman analysis, does the SP500 and TSM overlap too much to make sense holding both? However I’ve been in the red for a month now. I work hard for my money, so investing is making me a nervous sad wreck. I don’t know if I should sell everything, sit and just wait but watching my portfolio dwindle away is such an eye -sore.

[@heyaswinp]

Okay, so the SP returned 5% in the last ten days. :p

[@kiklocus4660]

0:02 that laugh got me

[@Matthew-us2ys]

If they are right, the implied downside potential in the near term is like -60%. Which is insane.

[@timbruns1636]

Equal weighting means selling those who grow while buying more of those who fall behind. Doesn't seem very clever...

[@HarunTosun-wg4rc]

The S&P 500 moved 8.9% higher last Month, achieving one of its best monthly performances in history.. which is an indicator for profits to continue to improve. I just want my money to keep outgrowing the inflation rate. I'm still looking for companies to make additions to my $500K portfolio, to boost performance. Here for ideas...

[@mandyyonge]

As they say, time IN the market is better than trying to time the market. I think you should seek advice from a licensed financial advisor. They’ll give you guide on high risk and low risk investment strategies for your portfolio

[@FinancesOnBitcoin]

Completely undermining the weight of MSTR when it’s added to the Nasdaq and S&P by the end of the year

[@titusp9488]

market returns are not justification for bubble formation when valuation is too high ... we have YTD 23% return does not mean it is a good thing

[@davidgray3321]

Good company Goldman , but frequently wrong, that’s because ther financial advisors, that means they go to work and tell us how to make money, but if they knew how to do that that they would all be in the Bahamas jumping off their sailing boast, not getting up at 5.30 to do a 15 day in Wall Street! Just a thought. All the best from the U.K.

[@samuelpanning764]

Appears to be a thinly veiled cover to push people into opaque unregulated private markets where Goldman makes way more money

[@yutoob222]

Goldman are a contrarian indicator. Market will probably rip instead!

[@JDawgstwothousand]

I am not sure this will age well. To think the US will not produce another new growth catalyst for another decade seems unlikely. A recession is likely in the next decade - but I do not agree with a lost decade projection.

[@XMan-nz9xy]

Just amazes me that these financial ‘experts’ think that they can predict years into the future, not to speak on a decade into the future! Their long term projections are not better than a monkey flipping a coin. Yes, multiples are high, but not for the first time in history, and the result has not been a 3% return over a decade…

[@ashsobhani2379]

Spot on. Great to see some brains from a top bank

[@patrover]

Create panic, people sell, prices drop, Goldman buys

[@GeorgeSchneider8889]

I guess you should buy the 10year with a yield of 4%+

[@XMan-nz9xy]

Multiple today for S&P 500 -22 Multiple Feb 2002 for S&P 500 - 45 S&P 500 value growth in the decade of 2002-2012 - 22% My god, don’t these economists look at the numbers? Should you diversify your portfolio regardless - of course!

[@jimbojimbo6873]

Is that 3% real return or nominal?

[@harambenolevest69]

They said before inflation so nominal

[@Stoneface_]

​@harambenolevest69 which means we're heading for a loss decade for the stock market

[@jimbojimbo6873]

@@harambenolevest69 ok no need to be rude

[@harambenolevest69]

@@jimbojimbo6873 I don't think he said it in the interview but I saw it reported on elsewhere.

[@cbz3237]

It's fictional

[@halams3772]

There is one massive asummption here: fair value earnings multiple of the market remains flat overtime. Even if we are at a historical earnings high, if there is a rational argument that the consistency of cashflows increases, then the fair value multiple can go up (or vice versa). Maybe not the best argument for it now, but not sure it makes sense to say equities (who should be at the cutting edge of their markets and expanding market share) should be subject to a static fair value.

[@MuhammadAhmad-nj3pr]

I like the analysis, the whole market returns will be low due to huge decline in tech companies valuation .

[@SigFigNewton]

The growth is real but will be accompanied by lower growth prospects further down the line. As E rises, P/E will decline. Modestifying returns

[@XMan-nz9xy]

@@SigFigNewton Multiple today for S&P 500 -22 Multiple Feb 2002 for S&P 500 - 45 S&P 500 value growth in the decade of 2002-2012 - 22% My god, don’t these economists look at the numbers? Should you diversify your portfolio regardless - of course!

[@Smart_Investing]

The whole broadening out really hasn't worked out like it should have thus far. I heard that all year round from so many so called "experts". I do see a few sectors that have outperformed and I would need to see further guidance and outperformance for numbers to be justified long-term. Mag 7 is still at all time highs, so that means money is still pouring into those names, majority of small caps have underperformed because of wall st. Not liking them because of lack of quality which I think is inaccurate, and a 3% prediction for the next 10 years is a bold call!!! I'm sure Goldman is going to do the opposite of what they say though. Albert (Owner) of Smart Investing

[@Sergio.Barrientos]

“Specifically, Kostin sees the S&P 500 rising 6% to 1,900 by the end of 2014, 17% to 2,100 by the end of 2015, and 23% to 2,200 by the end of 2016.” This is what Goldman forecasted back then… the observed returns ended up being: 2014 = 11% 2015 = -0.7% 2016 = 9% The same gentleman from the video. No model or analysis can accurately predict the future of the financial markets. He may have good qualitative points but data shows that any sort of forecasts from financial institutions are as good as tossing a coin to get insight from the future. Sources: Business Insider and Yahoo Finance

[@SupportAI309]

No one knows how the market is going to perform, otherwise everyone should be rich

[@zempest1959]

no people would still be poor. people lose their job, panic sell, fall into addiction due to unhealthy habits or their health goes downhill. nothing good lasts forever. best to spread your risk globally and hold total US market instead of just large cap.

[@SupportAI309]

@zempest1959 you don't get it - if you know how the market is going to perform, why would you buy if it's going down or why don't you sell when you know it will go down?

[@stevec912]

I guess I should sell all my GS holdings

[@WZ-kg8wx]

Unethical indeed.

[@gloriajaimesa2811]

In 2023, my returns were close to +50% and this year, I'll be near +30%. And 2025, i will deliver at least 20%, with long short strategy.

[@simrans3675]

So, is GS getting out of stock trading and investing for 10 years then? Just curious

[@jakubkouo]

I call this BS. All this larping is simply to sell you an idea you need a special investment strategy, eg. invest with companies like Goldman. Have look at their performace. I'm quite sure over 90% of their funds do not even beat SP500 in the longrun. By simply holding a whole market you've got way less stress of somebody potentionally making a mistake a missmanaging the funds plus you also pay almost 0% in fees.

[@Albertux]

laughable

[@SigFigNewton]

Your data disagree? High valuations don’t lead to lower long term returns?

[@Asdasdssd]

@@SigFigNewtontheir own track record disagrees. U naive? Goldman Sachs has adjusted its S&P 500 target several times for 2024. As of early 2024, their latest price target is 5,200, reflecting optimism driven by stronger-than-expected corporate profits, particularly from the tech sector. Initially, their forecast was 4,700, then revised upwards to 5,100, and further increased to 5,200 due to improved earnings estimates and expectations of solid economic growth in the U.S. The upward revision highlights strong performance in sectors like Information Technology and Communication Services .

[@gosmarte669]

When you look for a reason to sell alternative assets because they yield more ...

[@TraderTimmy]

This info is not for regular people doing investing. Learn how to trade wisely and take control of your stocks. Forget about this guy.

[@vraxo8953]

Lol they say this after they bought up the russell and equal weight. They're just trying to make a new trend

[@EthelbertCoyote]

It's likely pretty dead on but heavily spun as world stability, global warming damage in contrast to ground breaking tech improvements and cheaper by more extensive power use will make for great stability up and down.

[@lynnjohnson5511]

A diversified bond income fund has not averaged a 3 percent gain in the last 5 or 10 year! I’m living proof!!! Apply management fees and be laying down!!!

[@JohnDoe-kw1cx]

A prediction from them pretty much guarantees that S&P 500 will NOT return 3% over 10 years

[@neilvarghese6115]

If we have a lot of trouble in the world then I say go long oil , gold and other commodities where there are supply constraints

[@n0t_today_satan]

Income investing sounds pretty good

[@AmaliSaid-xz1dr]

Hello, business is good, excellent.

[@Saintor1]

...after a near 0% growth in last 10 years of bonds index funds. I'd prefer a 35% correction to this, just P/E ratios dictate this, but I don't believe that guy much. Markets are hungry for returns and over-inflated funds.

[@robertpollutro289]

Would you bet your salary on this information?

[@twyscape]

As with all analysts and so call experts, this is guesswork at best. Nobody knows what will happen. End of story.

[@illmagnetic]

@1:21 - The answer is crack. Smoking crack 🤣

[@squiggy18]

So said the guy....who has been very wrong in the last 5 predictions he made. At this stage doing the opposite of what he say has a better chance of a good outcome.

[@jawsh5628]

If the equal weighted index is expected to return 5% more, wouldn't that imply a rotation to value over growth? It's hard to believe given the efficiency of today's market. No you don't deserve a to almost triple the return of the market for using a basic screener and slapping on the label 'factor analysis'

[@benmurphy4124]

This is the same Bank that had an analyst that was short Apple for 10 years…

[@MrMountain707]

RIP Goldman. Tech will continue to run

[@KingOscar_1844]

I'll bookmark this prediction and take a look in 2034

[@josephdirnfeld3593]

Forecasts are guesses

[@diabolictom]

Goldman bonds salesmen says to buy bonds.... I am shocked.

[@zmkarakas]

FED is still behind the stock market. willing to save it at any moment. I see %200 return over 10 years.

[@Sparta1993]

I hope so! I have 30 more years of working. I hope it tanks for 15 years! Lord knows boomers and gen X spent all our money and we will be poor then

[@jaym9846]

So my MAG7 is doomed?

[@tlbue32]

Maybe they are just repeating the pattern of the old Nifty Fifty.

[@neilvarghese6115]

If interest rates stay at low levels and we have a prosperous peaceful world then the S&P would be returning 10%+

[@FinancesOnBitcoin]

He’s given me hope I can easily take his job, this is worse than saying there will be a snowstorm in the summer in Vegas 😂

[@geoms6263]

Returning 3% and money inflation around 10-12 %