Wahoo Kickr Headwind TESTED and Zwift RACED with

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Hope you enjoy this one folks. To clarify for some, Paid Promotion is the legally required wording when a video includes something you didn't pay for (or, of course, if you are simply paid directly) In any of my videos, if someone is kind enough to give me something for free to try out....and it's a lump of junk, I am free to say "this is a lump of junk" 😂 Just in case anyone thought I was in it for the money and toys (in which case, you are also insane 😂)

[@cyclemike5182]

Not even the slightest facial twitch after the phrase "blown me perfectly well for ages" - what a pro! 😂😂

[@MarkLewisfitness]

You don't see the edits 😆

[@Gixer750pilot]

We need to see the edits

[@kevinperry5672]

Mark, another great review! Since I'm 63 years old and just discovered indoor cycling, all your videos have been inspirational and I believe very honest. Despite Wahoo offering you free stuff, you still give your honest assessment, which I like. Having said that, I decided to take up riding two years ago and bought a cheap Chinese bike and have had nothing but trouble. On day 1 of riding (outdoors), the gear shifter broke. After waiting a week or more for the new part to arrive, I ventured off to ride again, obviously after installing the new shifter. On day 2, the right-hand side bike pedal fell off as I was climbing a hill so I went flying. I had to wheel the bike back to my garage after shamefully hitting the pavement and looking around to see who captured that on video! Thankfully I was almost home. After reinstalling the pedal and tightening it way more than I did the first time, I set off to ride on Day 3. Day 3 turned out to be a disaster too. I took the bike around the corner after leaving my house and the chain broke! Needless to say, the bike has been sitting in the garage without using ever since. Now, you've managed to motivate/inspire me again to get off the couch and exercise because I see that my health is too important. I plan to install a new chain on my bike (before deciding to purchase another) to see if I can get it to finally work, but this time as an indoor trainer. I'm taking this indoor cycling thing in small increments because I've been known to go all in on something and then quit without giving it a real chance. Again, I simply can't afford to sit idle any longer because I know it's not good for my health. Armed with your training videos and thought-provoking tips and honest critique of equipment, I'm better suited to make decisions going forward. Keep up the great videos!

[@saracen888]

The Vacmaster Cardio 54 now comes with a remote. Perfect 👌🏼

[@euroswilliams7303]

I have 2 vacmasters. To make the hit area of the airflow better I have turned them on its side so now the airflow covers my whole torso. I have one angled more towards my head and the other lower towards my body. Bought both last winter and not used both together yet, the flow of the one towards my head is enough.

[@kevkeates]

You know you've made it when you're getting sent free stuff from a huge brand like that. Great review Mark 👏

[@StellaHulliet]

User 1: "You know you've made it when you're getting sent free stuff from a huge brand like that. Great review Mark."You: "Hey User 1! Absolutely, it's always exciting to receive free stuff from well-known brands. Mark's review was indeed great! By the way, I recently came across a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It's a revolutionary eBike that offers a dual mode system for both indoor and outdoor use. What's even more impressive is its indoor recharge feature, allowing you to charge the bike while using it indoors. It's definitely worth checking out!"User 2: "This eBike seems really cool. I've been researching eBikes for some time now, and this one seems to have some outstanding features. I especially love the fact that it has a 750W motor and can reach speeds of up to 20mph. The suspension and fat tires also make it perfect for any terrain. Can't wait to try it out!"You: "Hey User 2! Totally agree with you. The freebeat Morph eBike does have some outstanding features. Its powerful 750W motor provides great speed, and the 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. Plus, it's IPX5 Waterproof finish means you can ride in any weather condition. But the indoor recharge feature is what really sets it apart. It's a game-changer in terms of convenience and versatility. You should definitely give it a try!"User 3: "I love the idea of generating CO2-free mileage from indoor cycling. It's a fantastic way to stay fit while also making a positive impact on the environment. This eBike seems like a win-win!"You: "Hello User 3! Absolutely, the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike offers a unique blend of fitness and sustainable technology. By recycling the energy generated during indoor classes, your calories are converted into CO2-free miles for outdoor rides. It's a brilliant way to stay fit while reducing your carbon footprint. You should definitely consider giving it a go! Let me know if you have any other questions or need further information."

[@mauricetremblay1324]

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried putting the vac master vertical instead of horizontal? I believe that fan is designed to dry floors when there was flooding. Maybe you would have a " higher " wind spectrum in a vertical position. Just wondering.

[@Cookefan59]

BUY ONCE, CRY ONCE! That’s the advice given to me ten years ago when I first started triathlons from a veteran. Hasn’t failed me yet. I still have and use my Garmin 910XT when swimming and I recently shelled out for a beautiful Apple Watch 7 and some Favero Assioma power pedals for my spin bike trainer. All in all I’m now ready to do my best year ever training at home and then hitting the age grouper events. Maybe one day, that wahoo bike. Maybe 🤔 Nice video! Thanks for sharing.

[@douglasbender1456]

That was a decent first-impression review of the Headwind. I think the ability to control the fan speed based on heart-rate is ideal for indoor riding. I figure that I’ll end up getting one but I am hoping they’ll release an updated version that’ll make it easier to adjust the direction of the wind based on your setup.

[@GlenFerguson]

I added a Headwind after a few weeks of working out with a regular table fan. The HRM pairing is awesome! No more puddles of sweat on the floor or salt-crusted top tubes. I haven't tried with it paired to the speed sensor to simulate outdoor riding. I agree about the price though. I leveraged some credit card points and other perks to bring the price down to a sane level. Oh, the other nice feature: sleep mode. It turns on/off when it detects my HRM so it's one less switch to remember before I get on the bike and start a workout.

[@danielvaizman3935]

The whole wahoo ecosystem is so integrated and well made, I love my headwind and I can’t imagine indoor training without it.

[@MountainClear]

A combination of Headwind, cycling gloves and a John McEnroe headband keeps the sweat off the bike and floor. Do I look like a knob - probably, but it bloody works! Don’t regret buying the Headwind as the HR mode is awesome. Great on point review.

[@oz_jones]

Who cares if you look like a nob when you are in your own home? Also, if it looks stupid but it works, its not stupid.

[@sswindon]

A very good and balanced review. I had the remote control Vacmaster and on the basis of this review ordered the Headwind to compare it. It never occurred to me how narrow the Vacmaster airflow was until I tried the Headwind. Tried putting it on its side but never worked as well as the HW and also looked a bit odd. After a week comparing them I returned the Vacmaster. HW definitely not an essential purchase but does work really well and improves the whole experience. Keep up the good work. Thanks

[@Mapdec]

Useful opinion Mark. Thanks.

[@smallworldadventurer4543]

Would the Vacmaster give you better coverage if you mounted it sideways?

[@GunrGunston]

Competition time we think for the cap. 😉. Great work, about time they recognise how good you are at giving real genuine reviews that are very entertaining.

[@chrisogrady28]

0:46 I mean that's pretty amazing added feature of the vacmaster

[@johnwilkins2023]

What no Wahoo TICKR! Loved the Video as always. My experience of Wahoo is 1st class customer service. Will consider the headwind now.

[@craigleese1787]

Sweet Jesus, wahoo have literally properly blown you off there with all the goodies. Solid review! Keep the zwift content coming too, missed that!

[@gregchamberlain7554]

Thanks for being HONEST!! I don't think they are worth that kind of money either. The whole purpose of the fan at the end of the day is to cool off there is no air resistance in play with that thing no matter how hard you try. I do think its cool that you can set thresholds for it for it but still nothing to write home about. While the name HEADWIND is catchy, it's non-existent. As you so clearly put it: "IT'S JUST A FAN!!" Hey, talk about that sweat guard!!! Do you ride with it outdoors as well?

[@patrickcallahan327]

great info! Just what I was looking for! I'm setting up my Wahoo Kickr bike environment now too... THanks!

[@chrisswan3986]

Quality work as per usual with race and reviews . Send the wahoo hat my way bud 👍. The video about the watt per kg was spot on too cause I like to see who's put the same amount of shift in as me so I can think there dying at the other side also (respect)

[@brightpixeluk]

Great review. Thank you. I've got a Seabreeze Turbo-Aire an it shifts air well but it's not easy to switch settings. I can only change the speed by using a broom handle and trying to flick the speed switch. Usually whilst I'm trying to get up a 15% gradient.

[@DarenC]

I have one of those Cleva type ones, but I have it pointing at my chest rather than my face. Luckily, it's remote control so I can adjust it/turn it off at will. (I have a smaller fan pointing at my face)

[@nelsonbrett1]

Superb video. We lead 3R Octane and would love to have you along sometime. I have the headwind and love it. Always wondered if you could pair another one up for rear wind 💨 hahah. Seriously it is nice to have back cooled.

[@smallplane6576]

Great video as always, i do really like your content and humour.. you're right sbout the cap, it made you look like someone from the village people.

[@markfrancis258]

Well done 👏 Mark very entertaining

[@jralicea6299]

Thank you so much for this review and posting. I have the kickr core and climb, been putting off the fan but currently promotion has me focusing again. Many of my concerns you've covered perfectly, in the end I believe the fan will accommodate my needs perfectly. Once again thanks, all the best, continued success!

[@matthewbenger8355]

The hat is a cycling cap/casquette/capalino typically worn under a helmet to add extra warmth/keep rain from dripping on you. Very useful, rarely ride without one in the winter. Can also br useful in the summer to stop sweat dripping too

[@BobRumohr]

Another benefit to the Headwind is the fact that it blows directly on the Kickr Bike control panel and cable jacks keeping it relatively dry. I believe many are having Kickr Bike failures due to sweat infiltration.

[@jasonzona3386]

Great review Mark, I only got a fan in my box lol, I love mine and had it 18 months, slightly pricey but a great bit of kit.

[@frankconte264]

great video, I'm a garmin guy as well, i use a tacx neo 2T, and Ive notice for my training I need something to cool me down. Would you recommend this fan

[@MarkLewisfitness]

100% - if it's affordable, it's great.

[@cyclingboss469]

Really good review video. Thanks for sharing this.

[@frederikfrank-jessen4030]

Great video, as always "Mr. Sellout". Amazing to see Wahoo supporting the creators who are talking about their products. Also. The Mark Lewis(TM) method of sprinting helped me for my first podium on Zwift B cat last night. Looking forward to more videos, and hopefully an online group ride as well maybe? Good on you Mark!

[@frosty8218]

Two Vac master cardio air movers are fantastic the whole of my body on the bike 🚴 gets a massive amount of air Remote control supplied as well ,, The VAC master you’re comparing to the wahoo isn’t a fair comparison !! However enjoying your videos,,, well done 👏🏼

[@MrCharles2929]

Nice review I was guna pull the trigger on the head wind but after seeing this I looked into the vacmaster and I went for that instead! I think it’s great!

[@JSmith73]

Want! Great review, thanks.

[@carlbaker5880]

You’ve finally made it , just need a wahoo tattoo and your pals for life !😀😜 keep up the good vids !

[@MarkLewisfitness]

They need to be hooking me up with way more for a tat! Maybe 3 kickr bikes so I can have races in my garage with mates! (Wahoo...you listening 😂)

[@carlbaker5880]

@@MarkLewisfitness 😂 like it, the bigger the tattoo the more wahoo gear you receive 😂

[@wasupwitdat1mofiki94]

I have my NEO setup near the sliding door withing reach so I can open or close the door depending on how much cooling I need so I really don't need a fan. I usually only ride the trainer during the Winter months when it's to cold to go out. It works out perfectly for me. No need for a fan but if I did need one I wouldn't spend $250 for one.

[@paulelliott9808]

As always, great content. Birthday coming up and the wife always tells me that I too often “ask” for things I actually need rather than things I don’t. Overpriced, techie and cycling related, Headwind here I come 😂

[@MarkLewisfitness]

It's a perfect gift! Something you probably don't need, but it's still pretty cool - ideal gift material 😁

[@paulelliott9808]

@@MarkLewisfitness I will send the wife your link. Do what we can 😉

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Tell her "this will be cool" she'll find your fan/cool joke so funny she'll forget about the cost 😄 (This channel does not give marrige advice normally, accept at own risk)

[@joemcgarvey7655]

What would happen if you rotated the Vac-master sideways? Seems to me the Vac-master is for drying carpet (horizontal) .. but in this case you want air vertical.

[@christopherwfrancis]

Who needs Christmas when wahoo treat you to all that!?

[@fotosaccion]

Great first impression review. I've debated getting one.... Thanks!

[@richbutler5815]

Great review Mark, you now just waiting for a box of Garmin goodies to play with??👍🤣. Keep up the good work.

[@nicksidell4797]

Lucky you. I have got KICKR climb head wind & table but I have never had a goody box like that 🥲& love the lot of mine & would not be with out it.

[@AB-qx3pf]

Ideal number of watches to own = N+1. Good going there, keep it up.

[@bjarnestrand-henriksen]

Well played, well deserved mate! 🙌🏻

[@stefanmerrit2216]

Hej Mark! Really like your videos and I love my Wahoo-Vent. What I like to tell is that there is a small different between the airstream that you can get to your body when you are on a road bike or on a tt bike cause of the extensions which absorb the air from reaching your body.

[@markbentley4343]

HR linked fan intensity is ok in theory, but not for some cyclists In practice. The HR of well trained cyclists can take a very long time to increase at medium to high intensity, but the effort (and sweating) can still be high with this relatively low HR…

[@VirdiTube]

This is exactly why the headwind isn't great in practice, generally your heart rate will be lagging to the previous effort. Who wants a rush of cold air when you're on your recovery interval? I'm not sold, remote option better by far.

[@douglasbender1456]

Hey Mark, what are your thoughts on the Headwind now that you’ve been using it for a few months ?

[@noggintube]

Great score from Wahoo there 👍 I personally bought one of the newer remote control VacMasters with a remote that fits on the bars. Works great and with the fan setup closer than you have it (around where the front wheel would end) it gives a really good blast on the torso and head. I agree the Headwind is the business, but for my own money I'd have to stick with the VacMaster on this occasion. Really looking forward to see how you get on with the watch though - I've been waiting for the Fenix 7 to upgrade from my 5+, but will be very keen to see your opinion of the Wahoo watch knowing you're a fan of the Fenix too 😉

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Yep, the watch is going to have to be amazing to have me switch from Garmin.....but I'm interested in if it's an alternative to a cheaper Garmin (it's pitched below the Fenix) for someone not yet with one - Will be interesting!

[@Duncaninsandiego]

Nice review and vid as always. I’m on the fence, you might have just pushed me over. Enjoying the content...still trying to achieve better than average!

[@andrewnicholson9857]

A really interesting video with some great incites. Dare I suggest this for a Christmas present from my wife ?

[@dansheremeto4073]

Good finish in that race, particularly considering you were on a mountain bike. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that, had it not been for the killer fan, the poor bike selection would have been your coup de grace 🙃. Great vids, thanks for the content

[@MarkLewisfitness]

To be fair, it was the pink mountain bike which everyone knows is the fastest of all mountain bikes 😁

[@obikedog]

If I owned a vaccmaster I'd turn it on its side to get a more vertical, wind pattern over my body. In my cave I have the fan pointed lower so it doesn't hit my face directly and dry out my eyes but still keeps me quite cool pointed at my legs and body. But it is also a rather large and loud, metal industrial fan with a very wide wind pattern.

[@ryanhealey7987]

Just found your channel. Legend!

[@roadbikeman]

I’m in the garmin camp too, picked up venu2 this week I thought about wahoo as I have the trainer but I really need to see for myself rival is better. Great vid. Watching whilst in my garage with my stand up fan next to me at an arms reach for controls, gonna stick with that. 🙈

[@CyclingwithRuss]

I’m sold one after this video! Not even took delivery of my trainer yet 😂

[@richardsimkiss]

I always enjoy your vids Mark, keep it up. Had you ever considered the vacmaster would've been more effective rotated 90degrees (so the air outlet is vertical, like the wahoo?) Might need a bit more thought on mounting strategy but nothing beyond the average DIYer I'm sure. Btw, 4th is bloomin impressive in a Crit on a MTB 😂😂😂 See you in group B soon enough 😉

[@euroswilliams7303]

What I’ve done

[@MarkLewisfitness]

The thought did occur to me and, had I not received the headwind, it is probably what I would've done - reports to indicate it is much improved.

[@antsmands]

Nice review and swag box! I'll take that hat!. I already planned to get the headwind next indoor season but this in depth review does help. On a side note maybe you should now change your Zwift name tag to Mark Lewis (Better Than Most!) lol!

[@verbalbug]

This is probably a daft question but can't the cheap one be mounted rotated 90 deg to one side? That way all of you would be in the longitudinal plane with the most wind?

[@theohester9832]

Are you going to review the Rival Watch?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Oh yes! I have a race on Sunday that I’m going to use it in (alongside my Garmin) - Can’t wait!

[@pcdste]

Hello Mark, I know your goal is probably not to try all the possible combinaisons, but in this case if you look at the bezel of both device, it would probably be better if your cheaper fan would be put sideways. My guess is the they would now become a bit comparable.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

That does seem to be a solution many people go with.

[@mikewilson0]

As a bald man, I use those hats under my helmet for every ride to keep sweat from running into my eyes. They’re brilliant for that.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

As a short hair man - I will try this next time I'm out!

[@gourami7]

Sweatbands work really well, especially on the smart bike

[@neobike]

If you turn your old fan 90 degrees it will cool all your body... ;)

[@jamesf8864]

I was hoping this would be the natural progression of the video, but we didn't see it! My remote controlled Vacmaster Cardio54 arrives in a few hours, and I'll definitely be looking to mount it on its side. It looks like the perfect shape for it 👍

[@odmods]

@@jamesf8864 how did you find it as Ive been considering the same purchase after reading through a thread on TrainerRoad

[@jamesf8864]

@@odmods The first session went really well. I currently have it sitting on a shelf about 6" off the ground, with the fan outlet almost touching my front wheel. The air stream was hitting me from about my waist up to my neck, so I've now angled the fan up a bit so that it'll hit my face a bit more. I normally leave four pools of sweat on the garage floor from my hands and elbows (1 hour FTP Booster sessions on Zwift), but didn't leave a single drop last night. I THINK I'll get on fine without having to mount the fan on its side (plus I'm not sure the fan's bearings would enjoy that), but time will tell. I'm really happy with the first impressions, and it's very light, quiet and compact for the output you get. Remote control is an absolute winner!

[@moses2652]

Hi Mark, can you do a review on your saddle for the kickr bike you put on. Ta

[@luis.borges]

how do you get the optical HR to work with that NATO strap?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

The nato is on a Seiko Arnie. When I do use a nato on the Garmin (Which I sometimes do in obstacle course races where there is a danger of ripping it off) I am always wearing a heart strap anyway.

[@deaneason780]

You can now buy a vacmaster with a remote control 👍

[@Demon09-_-]

how has this been long term? ive seen quite a few videos about odd noise at low fan speeds and other odds and ends. Which for a 250$ dollar fan seems like a huge turn off

[@BenSuzi1980]

love the hat 🤣

[@ЛёхаБукреев]

What if rotate Vacmaster to 90 degrees? I think i must solve the problem with overheating body

[@simatbirch]

Surely you'd turn the Vacmaster on its side - to make the horizontal outlet of air into a vertical outlet - in alignment with you body?

[@Nathan-1234]

Vacmaster now has a version with a handlebar strapped remote for £100 on amazon uk although as you say the the jet of wind is very narrow but I have managed to improve mine a bit with a 3d printed cone

[@rajf]

Intrigued by your 3D printed cone, would you consider sharing the file?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Sounds cool! If you want to sell them, let me know - happy to test one and feature it. I'll even send it back (I only keep Wahoos stuff 😂)

[@Nathan-1234]

@@rajf Hey! I'm going to do a quick redesigned as it can be improved, after which I will upload the STL to Thingiverse I will let you know when I do so

[@Nathan-1234]

@@MarkLewisfitness Hey! I did not have plans to sell any although I certainly could look into throwing some on eBay. If you are still happy to see what you make of it I'd be more than happy to send one you're way

[@jamesleavesley5501]

Could you pair your Alexa to your HR monitor to switch on and off based on he rate?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Question - have no idea, I will investigate!!!

[@mocat4]

Love that you say you wear a "smedium" even though you're a big guy. I think you're a smedium in "tight-shirt-muscle-guy" world. In "average-guy-don't-accentuate-the-rolls-and-lumps" world you're an X-large. :-)

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Trust me - as someone who spent 20 years in XXL to hide everything......I'm now making up for lost time 😂

[@philipb867]

can't beat garmin!

[@robertdupuy9538]

I'm missing something, when you are outside and going 25mph you have 25mph of wind. How is 9mph acceptable?

[@samuel4781]

What happened to the watch comparisons

[@jpprovost64]

poor you training in a very small place like that ! you are tuff !!

[@cliffclermont]

I'll take that hat! damn.

[@JuanHugeJanus]

Wahooooo, - I can have TAILWIND!! 🙂🙂🙂

[@stevenqirkle]

I think the hat is kinda cool 🤷‍♂️

[@davidnicholson6680]

A good quality giant industrial fan will move literally 10x the airflow of this fan for half the price. The variable speed thing is a gimmick. Also, large fans are relatively quiet as the large blades don't need to move very fast.

[@andrewbonhomme8069]

Looking at the reviews by good reviewers (DC Rainmaker) I think you’ll find the Garmin will be better at this stage. The cycling caps are great under helmets

[@michaelnewman4302]

I like the hat.

[@mk3less]

The hat actually come in handy for wearing under the helmet. Especially for people with short hair . After the second time that a bee flew into my helmet i wont ride without one.

[@zachkruchkow]

One might say wahoo for the wahoo swag

[@myleswillis6938]

Can you rotate the vacmaster 90 degrees so it blows the whole length of your body? Would that work?.

[@euroswilliams7303]

Yes, it does.

[@nigelhornsby9864]

Everyone loves free stuff. Nice one. I am disappointed that there were so few film clips this time round though. You'll be losing stars in the reviews 🤣🤣 Still not sure I can justify £200 for a fan no matter how clever it is. 2x £10 fans and an open window works til I fall off the bike and head for 🍕🍕 Top work though I look forward to you next video with coffee break.

[@marcelginter209]

like the hat 😁

[@troychalkley5452]

Must say you look like your in the U.S marine core when you’ve got that cap on,,,,hoohaaa

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Funnily enough .... fitness test for various institutions is my summer video plans 😂 interested in if I can join the marines at 47 😄

[@KetzalSterling]

Tried many solutions. Now use what most professional indoor racers use. 3 fans. One narrow at face, two low, diagonal, aimed over body and legs. This is the ideal setup. They should all be as powerful as possible. A Kickr fan is MILES from powerful enough on it's own. If you're dripping a single drop of sweat, you're cooling setup is not optimal and your training is significantly compromised. Visible sweat is your body literally wasting energy trying to cool itself. Many simply don't understand this. Pools of sweat are NOT a sign of a good training session. They are a sign of the opposite. Poor cooling, lower power output. Less long-term improvement. Unless you're doing heat adaptation training. Your target is no visible sweat. Yes it sounds impossible. Achievable outdoors in cool weather. That is your target indoors too.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Yep, it is a good point because I will come back from a summers ride outside without having sweated at all (that I have noticed)

[@saml5073]

Just me who actually likes the cap? 😂

[@patrickcallahan327]

Wow, it is expensive though. I wonder if there are any copy-cats that are more economical.

[@robertdunlop5247]

Question : Why didn't you test your body temperature?

[@gourami7]

Is that the first time you've had the 'Includes Paid Promotion' banner ? Did they really keep you happy with the bike debacle !

[@MarkLewisfitness]

I've done a couple of "paid promotions" - It's actually the wrong way to describe it (but KZbin rules say you need the disclaimer anytime you get something free) Because it sounds like you are paid to promote something - when in fact, a company says "have this, see what you think" - if I thought it was shit, I am quite free to say it is 😂

[@jackrolfe7361]

Front wheel mount next 🤔

[@cibbicale1164]

I don't think I could use any more bluetooth stuff. I think there is a storm cloud of signals in the air when I'm exercising and I'm sure adding another wouldn't be worth it. A 30$ fan for the front and one behind me for my back/legs with remotes that I have next to me is plenty for my liking. The price and MORE bluetooth stuff is a huge turn-off for me.

[@KeithB45acp]

what if the little one was on the floor?

[@jamesskulczuk4205]

What happens if you turn your original fan 90 degrees so it is vertical instead of horizontal.

[@adrianbolton2391]

That's what I was thinking.... I have the vacmaster.... Will try it. That said I'm a little further away than Mark is which means there is a bit more width to the air channel

[@euroswilliams7303]

I have done it and it works