★ 2024 CFMOTO 800NK ADVANCED REVIEW ★

[@stevesanelli90]

Great review Mark as always. This version of KTM engine will not have the cam wear issues. Totally updated engine. I hope you get to review the 675 range of motorcycles soon to be released in the UK? Cheers Edit: i would have bought this if it came with Traction control over the Suzuki GSX-8S. However, the next model released in China does come with it fitted standard.

[@markpulling12]

Thanks Steve yes definitely will be trying the new 675 s Good news on this engine then ... Best wishes mark

[@mloclam6917]

Having a KTM motor used to be a plus, now it's a worry

[@Mus.Anonymouse]

Because of the camshaft issue, or because the only very hesitantly repair under warranty, or because they don’t do recalls on known issues?

[@del5.0]

Hey Mark, it's Mark from New England. I bought the 22' 700CLX, which has a very cool design and great components, including fully adjustable suspension and Brembo calipers. I did not like the power plant, very weak for a 693cc. So I bought the 800NK. It feels like the 790 Duke but heavier. I have the 24' model in Nebula White, we don't get the Advanced version here in the states. No biggie. I really like the bike for the price. I think I'm going to get a 25' 990 Duke. CF Moto is making some pretty good bikes. This 800Nk is the 29th bike I've owned mostly Yamaha and Triumph. CF Moto is a good bike for the price. Another great review thanks, Mark.

[@teej1987]

You should have opened the exhaust on the clx , as well as a new air box and got a tune. I did that to mine and it was night and day difference

[@del5.0]

@@teej1987 did you do an ECU flash or actually tuned on a dyno?

[@teej1987]

@del5.0 i got mine flashed from a dealership that tunes all cf motos on a dyno. But it's based in Mississippi in the US. They have videos on KZbin showing you them tuning their bikes. TEAMMSCPARTS

[@keithallan8200]

Comprehensive review as always Mark. Thanks for that.

[@markpulling12]

@@keithallan8200 many thanks Keith:)

[@ml2799]

Another excellent review, thanks mate 🇬🇧🍻

[@band33n]

Hi Mark, Good review. I actually bought one and have been really happy with it apart from 2 things. 1. The low down fuelling, esp in sport mode is horrendous. Apparently there is an update to sort it. 2. The hideous rear mudguard/number plate holder. Because of the short rear the tail tidy doesn't sit very well. Apart from that it's an extremely fun bike to ride. I'm not worried about any of the reliability issues, I would imagine resale value won't be great but then I didn't buy it to sell on. I don't think I could have it as my only bike but as a fun naked alongside my Blade, esp for the price, I don't think you can fault it.

[@markpulling12]

Thanks yes great bike for the money..I have a duke 790 ...yes I have heard about the update and there is also a throttle calibration thing you can do as well Best wishes mark

[@Hinckley_Biker]

I actually like this bike with it's quirky looks, a good comprehensive review Mark 👍

[@markpulling12]

Hi thanks 👍...it rides superbly Best wishes mark

[@1990-t1j]

Much better-looking than the KTM eqivalent. Based on price and looks, I'd have one. But I like the base model better, because it has proper fatbars and doesn't have the ridiculous smartphone type dash. Beautiful front view. That light! The usual excellent review, Mark. Nick

[@markpulling12]

Hi nick yes definitely the base model is even better value:) Cheers mark

[@stevecalovich3682]

Hi Mark. You made me watch a review of the 790 Duke. I was shocked to learn it's made by CF Moto in China. Makes for a great price!

[@markpulling12]

@@stevecalovich3682 yes most things are made in china these days:)

[@duanestiles4821]

Nice looking bike there mark plus all the kit it comes with and the 4 year warranty is also a plus bring on more bikes from c f moto mark thanks for the vid bro

[@VFR-Owl]

I almost bought an 800NK but couldn't get over the hideous rear mudguard and the 8" touch screen, no doubt if the screen went kaput the bike would be useless. Hopefully CFMoto has fixed the camshaft/oil feed problem, but something CFMoto cannot fix are the residual values, although I keep a bike a long time it is still a worry that it would be almost worthless in a couple of years, a 750 Hornet is the sensible option.

[@kenmorrison1725]

Can't wait to see them do a 1000cc nk and bring it to the uk

[@martinehulme8743]

Great review Mark, good value for money at the side of the competition. I have the ktm 790, im not concerned it's made in China, after all most things weve bought for many years has had the components made in china 😅.. i agree with some we don't know the long term or resale value 😊. But on the other hand because their so reasonably priced youre not going to loose any more than for example a 1 year depreciation of a bwm ( from a money 💰 point of view).. i think this is great, without the badge youd probably not be concerned.. 🎉

[@markpulling12]

Thanks Martine....yes its all relative the amount of money lost ..loose say 3 k on a Chinese bike over a few years but it's cheap to buy anyway Or several thousand on a BMW that's 3 times as much Love these bikes too much to worry about it lol 🤣 Mark x

[@DerekFrampton]

It's been a while since I've commented on one of your videos. Your old friend from Eastern, NE USA! Hope all is well Sir!

[@markpulling12]

@@DerekFrampton hi Derek nice to hear from you I'm fine best wishes mark

[@Jonathan-yd8ud]

Not for me. I get on a motorbike to get away from technology. The last thing i want is an i-pad right in my face.

[@PeterKitching]

Same thoughts here. To my eyes that screen is an ugly feature that doesn’t seem to blend with the rest of the machine. That said, I realise I’m being left behind in a world that is moving on and to attract the next generation of riders, it’s this sort of thing that will appeal.

[@easydailytrades4205]

I'm not sure if I like it or not. It's definitely modern, and I'm more inclined to want real clocks rather than a TFT screen. I would want a whole day test ride before making a purchase decision. I'm from Australia and 2nd hand CF Moto bikes sell cheap. I would not want to be a new buyer and drop 70% in twelve months. That may change as the brand gains market share.

[@AmAm-t1g]

Nice review.. between this bike, Suzuki Gsx 8s & Honda Hornet 750 which one you personally prefer? And why

[@markpulling12]

Hi easy answer for me...I'm a fan of this engine so 800 NK ...it's an addictive engine Cheers mark

[@speedie1111]

But what did you think about the engine? 😄😄 Great review 👍

[@markpulling12]

@@speedie1111 didn't notice the engine lol 🤣

[@Haveyrsay]

Hi Mark, thought of buying one but the insurance was to high so bought a Honda NC 750 x.

[@markpulling12]

Great bike the nc750 Love it's engine so economical Cheers mark

[@karlfonner7589]

Thanks again for the review Mark. Finally, Cruise control but there is no place to put luggage or a tail tidy. Please let us know if that is possible. Aftermarket exhaust?

[@markpulling12]

Hi yes aftermarket exhausts are available....not too sure about luggage racks ... tail tidies can be fitted Cheers mark

[@MrMichaelfalk]

touchscreen on a motorcycle... thats just a very bad idea if it can used during riding..

[@markpulling12]

Hi ...it only works when you are stationary Cheers mark

[@milesfarley2831]

I was considering this bike, but the way ktm dealt with the 790 cam shaft issue led me to buy a 2024 xsr900. I just can't get behind anything related to ktm

[@chiquicat1]

Is there a windshield? Aftermarket perhaps?

[@jota1221]

Very good review. It looks no worse than the current crop of modern Japanese bikes - grim. It does not have gold forks which is a plus point. Engine sounds great but that ipad thing is just a gimmick. Can it be removed when you leave the bike? The scallywags where I live would be queuing up to try and prise it off the bike thinking the rider had left it on by mistake.

[@gorrdd]

Thanks Mark... I was wondering when you would do a review on this bike. Sounds like a great bike. I sat on one when I picked up my new 450nk. The seat tended to splay my legs enough that I was on the balls of my feet. Maybe moving forward on the seat would get my feet flatter on the ground. I need to try that again at the dealership. When on the balls of my feet it was more difficult to get off the stand than my 450. Yet, it only weighs 45 lbs more than the 450. Gas mileage on the 450 only seems to be around 60 mpg. I have 1500 miles on it. Maybe it will improve. The range is about 210 miles to sputter. I was hoping for at least 70 mph. But they may have it tuned rich. What are you thoughts. Gord

[@markpulling12]

Hi gord I got about 65 mpg UK out of the 450 so I think you are in USA smaller gallon so that's about right I'd say Best wishes

[@gorrdd]

@markpulling12 Thanks Mark. I hadn't thought of that. I agree with your assessment. The other thing that is very peculiar and that is the speedometer readings. The beautiful speedo will show 70 but GPS says 67 or even 66 mph. The instant fuel economy shows around 70 mpg highway. But that is because the speedo is skewed. The CFMoto Ridesync app bases everything off of the bike's GPS and corrects all those dash display indicated errors. Why do they do that, I wonder... since they aren't hiding anything with Ridesync. By the way, the seat on the 450nk seems to be the most comfortable motorcycle seat I have ever been on. Gord

[@markpulling12]

@gorrdd brilliant gord ...the 450 NK would definitely be my choice...that engine is superb:)

[@gorrdd]

​@@markpulling12 Indeed it is... When doing 70+ and a dangerous gaggle of traffic forms, you can just pull back on the throttle in 6th gear and she will just fly past them. Remarkable pulling power even at the range. I've never once had to peg the throttle all the way back. Never any need really. When I said the GPS automatically corrects it. It only does that in the historical and accumulative averages under the CFMoto Ridesync app. Not under the live dash indication. Unfortunately, the live mph data still is skewed. And that really messes with the indicated range. As a general rule, I always gas up when I reach 150 miles on the highway. That leaves me with about 50 miles until completely empty. However, in city traffic, even with easy gear changes, you get about 150 - 165 mile range total. And with mixed city and highway riding, you only get about 185 range until completely empty. And there is a significant difference between highway mileage at 65 mph compared to 75 mph cruising. There may be a tune in my future. But I would have it dyno'd first to analyze how it is currently set up. Gord

[@sgtgrash]

I have two wee concerns: 1: WOW, those bezels! C'mon CFMoto, the instrument binnacle would look a lot sleeker and be less prone to damage without the unnecessary real estate. 2: The Chinese are hitting it out of the park with some fabulous machines just now. But, current political & ideological factors being what they are, one wonders whether this might affect the future of Chinese imports, and thus, support in the future. Otherwise, an amazing machine... 👍

[@jpbtls]

What an amazing bike for the money, tried one for size and it fitted me well. Alas a terrible pillion bike so it's no good for me, which is a shame...

[@justinbreedon3093]

Not a know on you Mark. But many on KZbin review Chinese bikes but no one seems to purchase one. Biggest war with Chinese bikes and cars that may look good and have all the gadgets but for long-term you’re gonna lose your money on resale value and have a pile of trouble. I have friends that have bought Chinese here in Australia and had nothing but major issues.

[@charlesagibb6593]

Have you tried looking in the mirror? Could it be an Anglo Saxon, Judeo-Christian saying I'm exceptional? or are you just a white supremacist. Is it the bike or you? Looks like another fantastic blke reviewed by Mark to me. Have your friends travelled on high speed rail in China? Anything to report , or just "fanny fluff" from a racist?

[@zyghom]

exactly what I think: easy to review, but nobody shows "10k miles review" or "3 years review"

[@kevinhorne429]

What a load of bollocks, cf moto is very popular over here, and for good reason. My nk 650 has been around Australia twice, and now has 111000 kms on it. Not one problem with it and is as good as new. Change the oil every 5000kms along with filters and all will be good. As for reliability issues, their has hardly been any. Obliviously you’ve never been near one.

[@justinbreedon3093]

@@kevinhorne429 twice around Australia did you get lost. You can spend your money on whatever you like. That’s fine and for the record I do know people that have them and I’ve had issues and I know people that sell the bikes. Don’t get all Upset about someone having an opinion. Even most Chinese don’t want to buy a Chinese product but like I said doesn’t bother me fella you spend or anyone can spend their money on whatever they want.

[@simonbowen6653]

Great looks, masses of kit and a long warranty. They may suffer big depreciation but at least they start with a low price. Depreciation on so called big brands with their high prices is even worse. Where they are made may be an issue but they're got going away.

[@Steve-motorcycles]

Would you buy this over the 790 duke?

[@markpulling12]

Hi Steve I have a 790 duke now 😁..tough choice this is a little more plush and comfortable the duke is more knife edge ...at the moment I'd choose the duke but both are brilliant value at the moment Cheers mark

[@Steve-motorcycles]

@@markpulling12 I had the original 2018, 790 duke and loved it until someone decided to take it. I am seriously thinking of trading my 750 hornet for another one next year.

[@lawrenceblyth3478]

While being fantastic value, Im not a lover of the tablet and the general looks of the bike. I suppose if it rides nice you don't have to look at it. I'm at the bike show at the weekend so it might look better in the flesh.

[@graemetaylor629]

Chocolate cams

[@markpulling12]

Haha lol ...that was a few years ago sorted now ...this is a proven engine...as used in the 800mt adv Many happy owners reviews having completed 1000s of miles Best wishes mark

[@chrispack3131]

@@markpulling12Hi Mark, sorry you are wrong the camshaft issues are still prevalent in 2024. It’s a big issue putting off a lot of potential buyers. Don’t take my word for it but you will find I’m correct if you do some research. Loving the test rides Mark keep them coming mate.

[@markpulling12]

@chrispack3131 thanks I'll look into that a bit deeper,:)

[@markpulling12]

Maybe I've been lucky then with my 2 790s no probs at 20000 miles

[@chrispack3131]

@@markpulling12 Hi Mark just got this off the internet Yes, KTM's camshaft issue is still a problem in 2024: Owners are still complaining Owners of pre-2021 790 models, as well as some owners of later 890s and the Husqvarna Norden 901, have been complaining about excessive camshaft wear. KTM's response was insufficient KTM's response to the issue was a brief statement and apology on social media, which some owners felt did little to address their concerns. Some owners are frustrated Some owners are frustrated with KTM's response and feel that their issues are not being properly acknowledged. Some owners are waiting for parts Some owners are reporting that they have to wait at least three months for parts. Here are some other things to know about KTM's camshaft issue: KTM says that all of their products are fully tested during development and carefully monitored after sale. Owners who notice any decline in performance or increased engine noise should contact their local KTM dealer. Some say that KTM has a long history of upper end failures. Some say that KTM has poor quality control.

[@ReValveiT_01]

That looks suspiciously like the aging Kawasaki ER-6 engine to me.

[@ianhalliwell8604]

The front and rear mudguards look hideous and that great big thing stuck on the handlebars is awful, what's wrong with a clock, especially 2 of them.

[@spangoz1000]

Would I buy a bike that only has 17 dealerships in the whole of the UK, and has an engine from a company going bust. Answer no 😮👎

[@1974leszek]

Personally I wouldn’t buy this bike just because is CF Moto, I will feel like I own some worse brand which no one will buy off me if I decide to sell.😊

[@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555]

Time will tell.....would l buy a stand alone Chinese bike? No way, there are huge differences in how a Chinese company will gain market share and how a Japanese competitor would. Would l buy a Chinese bike if it was in collaboration with a European /Japanese company with a reputation to lose and their own quality controls installed? Yes. No reviewer yet has answered the parts supply guarantee period on CF Motos.

[@volt8684]

I know I am an old fart. But if these bikes had triumph twin clocks I am sure they would be much more desirable

[@G3A3]

too bad about the giant ugly phone. please bring back dual dials even if they are digital.

[@rwalton159]

That's one ugly bike!

[@darkelf1000]

Nice chest and helmet full of wind...no thanks.

[@craigtruelove444]

put a proper seat on it and get rid of that stupid number plate holder 🙈

[@lukeoverthere1364]

That’s one of the ugliest bikes I’ve ever seen. Great review though Mark. Is that Chinese?

[@markpulling12]

Hi yes it's Chinese like virtually everything these days Cheers mark

[@glynntipper9354]

Sorry can't take to that at all hideously ugly parts bin special.

[@carlos-ek5de]

Hi mark would you have the cf-moto or ktm why did your have a another ktm can you play videos games on the screen😂

[@markpulling12]

I bought another 790 duke quite simply because they are fantastic to ride 😁