Marshall DSL 100HR vs Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 |High Gain Amp Shootout

[@mattcacioppo2502]

Awesome demo. Absolutely love the tones you got. Incredible playing as well. I scored the JCM 2000 100 watt version recently and it pairs nicely with my Boogie Tremoverb from 94’. Cheers!

[@dw22509]

The dsl 100 had a mesa boogie like oversaturation quality too it that I liked, but also had less lower mids, while the jcm sound more like a hot rodded marshall. Both are great.

[@wheresallthezombies]

I’m pretty sure this is the only video of these two. Lol. Thanks so much for doing it though. Both sound killer though. Ide be happy with either. The dslr sounded like it cut through the mix better though. I’m sure with an eq pedal you could make it sound identical to the jcm2000

[@RealBillyGarcia]

Marshall DSL 100HR sounds a little duel rectifier like. I like it best.

[@95awesomenes]

That DSL 100HR sounded tighter and felt like it had better headroom than the JCM2000, although it sounded like it was lacking some low end. If there was some bass added to that DSL, it would have definitely be the tone winner in my book, but that's just my opinion.

[@davidcheney5511]

I have the original DSL2000 100. AMAZING AMP. The deep switch is awesome when you are "playing with yourself", but, sonically, WAY too muddy when you are playing with a band. AWESOME AMP!

[@SirVicc]

And Ace Frehley. And Jeff Beck. And Gary Moore. And Richie Sambora... I have the JCM 2000 DSL 50 and the DSL40C, and when run into the same cab I hear the same thing. The JCM is much more aggressive and raw, and the DSL is smoother. I like the JCM more, though both make me happy. And yes, I bought my DSL 50 almost a year ago for 300 dollars.

[@emach07]

I liked them both. The 2000 seemed to cut through more but that could be how you have the Presence and Treble set. I have the 100HR but I use pedals and I have TONS of high end that sounds more like what you're getting out of the 2000 in this video. Interesting video, thanks 😁

[@Roqfort]

JCM 2000 sounds for me fuller and heavier. Great amps anyway...

[@scottdunn2178]

Fun Fact; Steve Grindrod designed the two-input Master Volume 2203/2204 in 1976... he also designed the JCM 2000 DSL100 in 1995 to compete with the Mesa Dual Rectifier.

[@EM-km8em]

What are the differences between the 900 and 2000?

[@michaelbarber590]

I think these 2 amps would sound perfect together.

[@Adrin1117]

Great video! I love my DSL. And also, if I'm not mistaken, Gary Holt said some good things about the JCM 2000 on a Rig Rundown interview...

[@DiToDlfno]

BEST COMPARATION THAT I EVER SEEN, THANKS YOU RESOLVED MY DOUBTS

[@donnieirish6076]

Really dig your amp comparisons, a lot of good insight!!

[@fernandoriosunit20]

Phenomenal playing man! Think I liked the DSL a little more...

[@noodlehair6566]

the dsl100hr has that thump I'm looking for. that's the amp for me

[@kow294]

Thanks man. Appreciate your reaction and oppinion on the differences between these two amps.

[@angrytroll27]

JCM2000 users Erik Rutan, Karl Sanders, and Gary Moorer and Jeff Beck

[@willowsmutt8313]

After a long break with a solid state, I ordered the DSL100HR. Hope I didn't mess up.

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I’m sure you’ll be fine! I’d highly recommend an Ibanez TS9 or Boss SD1 to boost that red channel. I find it sounds like it slightly has an octave to it in a bad way without a boost. Plus they are great pedals either way! Cheers -Ryan

[@willowsmutt8313]

Getting mxr distortion + this week, the 6 band eq when it comes back in stock. The R1 and D1 from walrus are on list. Little bit after saying this I ordered the SD-1 from Boss. Everything is on back order so... I hate waiting....

[@TVoltG]

So do you like it?

[@X9Eric]

Hey TriCrow Studios, thank you for doing this video. Awesome playing, awesome recording, and fantastic job. Please keep posting! As a former owner of a DSL100HR, I have been curious about the difference's of the JCM 2000 versions. Question for you. Which would you purchase, a used JCM 2000 DSL100 or brand new DSL100HR given they were the same price? I miss the DSL HR100 and looking to purchase one of these.

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I really liked the older DSL compared to the newer one! Although the Resonance control gives you a little more control over the “woof” of the Deep Switch on the JCM 2000. You wouldn’t really go wrong with either… The Reverb on the JCM is way better, but the digital reverb on the DSL100HR isn’t that bad. I wish I could give a better answer. Best of luck! Cheers -Ryan

[@mastersteve78]

I love that JCM2000, but the newer DSL100HR sounds great too! I would be happy with either, Marshall ftw. Awesome video btw.

[@jdb2722]

Candy apple red Ibanez war machine out of nowhere! I wasn’t expecting that. I’d be happy with either.

[@tonedriverss8629]

Always liked the JCM England DSL / TSL's . But must say the DSL100hr asian builds sound great and dont suffer the bias drift and all the other problems of the England made JCM's . Very impressed with the sound of the 100h here .

[@jimmykrutakofficial294]

HR sounds less muddy in the low mids and has more of the classic Marshall high mids

[@metalinsights9664]

Maybe it's due to how each amp was EQ'd, but I hear a little more of a boxy (not in a bad way) midrange/fullness in the DSL100HR. Relative to the DSL100HR, the JCM2000 sounds a touch more scooped and, in this video, a little more balanced. The DSL100HR has more grind due to the more pronounced midrange in this comparison.

[@lydfar2392]

Hmm, much more low-end in the JCM was it really not possible to get the DSL closer?

[@fabiviegas1guitar]

these are the classic rock sound, best sound

[@BossDM-2]

I am right now looking to buy one or the other of those heads after not having had a Marshall since I sold my old JMP 50 w/preamp/master a few years ago (I know, I am a jackass for selling that). I have a Duel Rec but I have missed the Marshall sound and feel for a while. The JCM has that sound, at least in this clip. Both fantastic, the DSL sounds like a great generic metal amp, but that JCM sounds like a Marshall.

[@grumpyoldrockers1048]

Great shootout! I wish you would do one between the jcm 2000 DSL 50 and the dsl-100h. But both of these amps that you used here sounded excellent and I am the owner of a jcm 2000 50 watt. But it definitely changed my mind about getting a DSL 100. They both sounded excellent in my opinion. And all things considered equal, I would never run any tube amp without a good 10 band EQ. So there's that.

[@aaronsg71]

If you put an EQ pedal in the newer Marshall, you can add or omit certain frequencies to get the more classic JCM tone

[@vijaythurner7516]

Both Sound great! But somehow i Like the jcm with the les Paul more and the DSL HR with the Ibanez...

[@ace-rob71]

I'm in the middle with my DSL100H. great beast. The 100HR has some added fetures, good but not essential in my hopinion. The master volume is good for set two different volumes and have a boost for the solo... but they are essentially very similar

[@Zulumann25]

Jcm sounds harsher rough around the edges. Dsl sounds Tighter and smooth which prefer. Dsl wins for me.👍

[@matttaylor1449]

karl Sanders from Nile has used the DSL 2000 for most of Nile's career.

[@davidepellegrini9717]

Thanks a lot, fantastic shootout and terrific playing! Is the music original stuff (also in your other videos)? If so where can I buy it? I'm loving it!!

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Thanks! Yeah it's all original... I'm always too busy with work and family to record anything "Release Worthy". KZbin Videos allow me to be lazy and energetic all at the same time hahaha! Cheers -Ryan

[@chadpreslar7152]

@@Crypticmaskguitar I found that out myself after I built my home studio, going in there a laying some stuff down and jamming is one thing but making something release worthy is a commitment lol

[@RussWoWSolo]

Marshall DSL 100HR

[@Wenceslao3726]

I wanna buy the HR but I keep hearing on some reviews that it breaks down or makes a crackling noise after of some good usage? like does it happened often? or what do you think?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I wish I could give you some information here... but I’ve owned the head for about 2 weeks now. I got it used, though. I haven’t experienced anything like that. BUT I also own 16 different amp heads... so it won’t really get a ton of use to get to that point. I basically bought this out of curiosity. Cheers -Ryan

[@matttaylor1449]

The 2000 DSL 50 sounded a lot more aggressive in the upper mids. Less smooth and compressed, more old school. But i prefer that. Both sound great though.

[@aayushkhare656]

My observations are that the DSL has more low end, and hence I prefer the JCM. Also, did you say you bought your JCM2000 for $400? Also also, Karl Sanders of Nile used them in earlier albums

[@Astral_Wave]

DSL for me 😎🤘

[@BrankoSimic696]

Great playing, fuckin' ripped it, and great comparison also, thank you.

[@RockyH.]

Truth is I'd have either one their both damn good amplifiers!

[@TheSPazCORE]

Do people actually hate on the JCM 2000? The thing absolutely rips. Shits all over the Peavey 6505 I tried against it.

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Yeah. Might stem from some issues with the Boards on them. But whenever I post a video with either of my JCM 2000s I'm told how they "Can't hold up to any other amp". The internet is hilarious that way. BUT a lot of people like the way that a Head and Cab LOOK, and play them at bedroom levels... so that could be it as well. Love my DSL 50 and TSL 100. Cheers -Ryan

[@luca4352]

Did you engage the deep switch on the JCM 2000 during the comparison? DSL HR seems to have deeper bass in this video. Sorry if I missed you explaining the settings ^^

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Yes. The DSL 100HR had the resonance knobs between noon and 1 o’clock. Best way I could show the difference between the two. Cheers -Ryan

[@luca4352]

@@Crypticmaskguitar Thanks!

[@Bjnpol]

I like your videos, but I wonder... Does all riffs in videos are yours?😉 Great ideas for songs by the way

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Thank You! Yes they are. We always use our own stuff to avoid any weird copyright claims. I'm sure other bands have used similar riffs, hard not to nowadays. Cheers -Ryan

[@Bjnpol]

@@Crypticmaskguitar You are very talented then, cheers☺

[@andrewspade7969]

The problem with the JCM 2000 dsl's is brand new two of them could sound very different, as I found out when testing them, which made me wonder about the consistency of their manufacturing.

[@stephendre2902]

Good luck finding a jcm 2000 for $400 rn. I found a beat up one for $600 on eBay and that was the cheapest one I saw in months of searching. So I see I see all of these KZbinrs saying they are $300-$400 bucks. Not anytime the last few years unless you totally hit a miracle somewhere. After a $250 tech visit she sounds great but that’s $850 bucks for a beat up one. And yes if you’re good with amps I’m sure you could have done the work by yourself. So you can take $125 off of that if you do it yourself for just new tubes.

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Haha it’s for sure a “Waiting Around” type of price in local areas rather than eBay or Reverb. I’m in Canada as well... Long and McQuade stores out here will generally sell them for $499 and $599 for the TSL 100. I saw both of those prices last summer. In my area of Edmonton people will list them for Private Sale at $900 or so and then after no one buys them they keep decreasing the price. A lot of people who aren’t familiar with a spring reverb tank get scared that they area broken because of the sound so that turns people off. I bought mine probably 5-6 years ago but on our buy and sell I usually see 1 or 2 that end up around the same price as a MA100 used which is about $400. But that doesn’t mean that is the same everywhere, for sure. I was lucky as well where mine hasn’t experienced any issues... at least not yet. Cheers -Ryan

[@johnsimms3957]

They both sound good. The 50 sounds a little rawer in a good way. But the 100 sounds a little more thicker and maybe tighter. I like the 100 better here. But I would take either one. Well actually I would buy the 50 over the 100 because I value my hearing.

[@deHelli]

Great "vs"!

[@ryanwestenbarger2121]

I see you have a compensating nut on that Les Paul. I'm about to order a Wormoth neck and the Earvana is a option. Would you recommend it. Any draw backs?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Not that I have ever noticed. I have an earvana on an EX400 that I have as well and it works nicely! Cheers -Ryan

[@ryanwestenbarger2121]

@@Crypticmaskguitar Thank you! Rock on!

[@harveysanchez6993]

I’ll take the DSL 100 since it sounds really great it’s not exactly good as the JCM but it’s close enough and way more affordable.

[@jasonsapp792]

I have noticed on this video and the other videos you have done lately with the DSL100 HR your face says you like the DSL HR "in the room" a lot...just an observation...I own the 100HR myself and I get it

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Truth be told... I’m not a big fan of the DSL 100HR most of the time. You’ll notice that in videos I play it second... never first. That’s because I need to be surprised that the amp is actually good. When I play it first I’m at a loss for inspiration. Doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s bad because I do like it... just not something I would put on my desk very often. Cheers -Ryan

[@jasonsapp792]

@@Crypticmaskguitar gotcha....maybe your expressions are trying to dig in? I think it sounds great in person and on your videos...I have had both the JCM2000 DSL and TSL 100's hated both...funny

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Possibly. I find that the JCM 2000 isn’t always suited as a “Main Amp”. But pair it with something else and BAM! Cheers -Ryan

[@ramo2165]

Can you post amp settings for the JCM2000? I can't get mine to sound that nasty.

[@Vorgaloth]

Listening with headphones cuz I'm on a laptop but the DSL sounds much fuller. A richer bottom end. but you're saying the 2000 has more. Weird.

[@joelmahan]

Nuno is using 2000s😎

[@rawradinosaur56]

I had a jcm 2000 dsl 100, and got rid of it…. Regretted ever since. Just ordered a dsl100hr from Sweetwater, I am praying it’s as good as the JCM 2000

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

It’s close. Quite close. Subtle differences. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it! Cheers -Ryan

[@ThunderFalcon333]

DSL 100HR works for me. 👍

[@Qaisjaan]

would you agree that the JCM2000 has lowest low end/low mids of any Marshall amp?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Honestly, YES! I've always thought that! Although... to be fair... I don't own a Silver Jubilee or JCM 800 yet. Just another reason why I should pick those two up... eventually! Cheers -Ryan

[@EM-km8em]

What do you think of the sc20c ? Does it achieve these heavy tones ? I play clean guitar and metal Im about to either buy a dsl40CR or the sc20c pls tel me which you prefer.

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I honestly haven’t played one. I’m much more interested in 50w and up for amps so I haven’t gone out of my way to try one. Cheers -Ryan

[@EM-km8em]

@@Crypticmaskguitar thank you! 🙏🙏🙏 So would you say a DSL40CR is. Better choice ?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

It’s hard to say. If you like to change from Clean to High Gain on the fly it’s a lot harder to do with an 800 being a single channel amp. The DSL will allow you to do so. Cheers -Ryan

[@EM-km8em]

@@Crypticmaskguitar cool man i appreciate it! If you had to choose one or the other between these 2 Which one would you get? I can get the dsl40cr for $600 Or the sc20c for $900

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

If it was going to be my only amp I would get the DSL because of the channel switching abilities. If it was a secondary amp I would go for the 800. But if I didn’t instantly know the answer myself I would take my time and try them out to see what I bond with the most. Cheers -Ryan

[@RtroyD]

They sound about the same but the purists will always pick the older dsl amps for whatever reason....I had a new 40 watt combo and 50 watt head at the same time and they were identical into a 4x12....the think I liked better about the newer version is the resonance control over the deep switch.better.control....getting a 100hr today as a matter of fact

[@kettenlaiho3983]

Have you ever tried the dsl20hr? Im asking cause I’m stuck between the 20hr and the 100hr; I don’t know which one to get :/

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I have not. Personal preference is 100w+. The DSL 100 HR has half power mode so you can run it in 50w. You should be able to get away with a DSL20 with a drummer, I’m sure. And in a venue you would generally mic your cabinet and go through a PA. So it’s really up to you wether or not it is going to bother you over the wattage. You can get more body with higher wattage but of course you have to increase your volume level. Best thing to do is try them both out. Cheers -Ryan

[@furryz666]

Dsl40cr sounds just right for your needs and price point is reasonable

[@acerob7173]

I got the DSL100H and a DSL20CR. With the 20, forget a cleaner clean. even with volume and gain under 5 it breaks fast if you hit hardly the strings...

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Where are you finding the jcm for 300 to 400. It.seems everyone's gone up to 600 these days

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I got this one a few years back for $400. The JCM 2000 usually pops up around the same price as the MA100... and of course they pop up at around $1,000 as well. They usually sell for $400. That’s Canadian prices as well. Cheers -Ryan

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@Crypticmaskguitar i should have bought them when I sae them everywhere for 500 USD. They have been going up so it woukd have been a good investment lol

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@Crypticmaskguitar i want one to blend with my rockerverb

[@youngmike8645]

Gone are the days of $3-400 jcm 2000s. A year and a half ago I sold mine for $300. Regretted it and just tonight bought one for the lowest price on reverb for a cool $600. People want insane money for them these days and the new dsl 100s made in Vietnam are not Marshall’s 🇬🇧 = real Marshall.

[@yohaishelef3247]

Sounds awesome. They sound same. How loud was it :)?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Both had their Masters sitting between Noon and 1 o'clock. I have my Cabinets set up in a different room to save my hearing hahaha Cheers -Ryan

[@yohaishelef3247]

@@Crypticmaskguitar Thx for replying. Do they sound so good on relatively low volumes?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Like most Amp Heads, yes. They will sound good on low volumes but really start to open up at higher volumes. Cheers -Ryan

[@moribnd]

Ibanez sounded weaker than the Gibson. Nice sounds overall; good video.

[@chadpreslar7152]

I have a 2000, it is amazing. I don't understand how people can throw shade at a Marshall made in England that delivers that vintage Marshall tube hot rod sound for less than a thousand bucks. I do think that amp is catching on a classic though will not always be cheap as they become for rare. But yea I guess if you pay $3500 for an 800 you have to convince yourself that the 2000 is a piece of junk.

[@jalaskabtu]

Well said dude.... More you pay, more you say hehehehehe. Love my jcm 2000 dsl 100w. Hate Marshall put dsl100 same name, same project in vietnam models, think little confuse. Hope other name, like JVN hehehehhehe

[@billhannum4117]

I think with the eq tweaked these sound so close it makes no differdence . Didn't know people hate the jcm 2000 .I think its a great amp probably the best amp since the jcm 800 but more Versatile .I have a jvm but ill tell ya I'd take a jcm2000 any day . For the money the dsl is a great amp as well . Had a lil dsl40 it was a great lil work horse of a amp with a few pedals and a speaker upgrade i could do just about any thing with it . Like I said i am currently playing a jvm 205h half stack but I am gonna grab a second head for a back up and the dsl 100 hr is in the running for that . Very often I am using a friedman be deluxe od pedal in front any way so the dsl would be fine .. if you have not tried the friedman be od pedal i highly suggest you do . Amazing pedal sound better than my amps pre amp .

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

It's all preference for sure. The new DSL can't exactly capture that low end "Spot On", but certainly gets close. But the new DSL has more smoothed out Highs, it's hard to dial something like that in on the JCM 2000. They both have their benefits. I'd say the JVM Series has these beat, though. I get a lot more use out of my JVM 410H than either of these. But again, preference. I have not tried the Friedman BE Deluxe OD, though. But The Friedman BE 100 Deluxe Head is on my list of heads that I want buy. I keep saying to myself that I'm going to buy a Rivera Knuckle Head 120 this summer,, but, there is a store out my way that stocks Soldano SLO-100s and Friedman BE 100 Deluxe Heads... I just have that feeling if I go into that store this summer before I order the Knuckle Head and they have either of those two heads in stock... I'll be leaving with one HAHA Cheers -Ryan

[@jackslayers]

I Think.... When boosted Jcm 2000 better... When Not boosted DSL better....

[@ryanburchett8455]

I thought the DSL cut through better.

[@rej4166]

Great content. To me the DSL 100 sounds more flat, whereas the JCM has some character to it. Thanks for the comparison.

[@wolfmoonshadow7181]

Metal talking..With which cab do you recommend for DSL100HR?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I really enjoy the Mesa Rectifier 4x12 slant, which is in this video. But I also have a Marshall 1960A cabinet which works quite well. The Mesa has a bit more low end to it, but at the same time the Marshall sounds awesome! Either of those 2 cabinets will work without question. You can usually get a used 1960A for $400-600. Cheers -Ryan

[@wolfmoonshadow7181]

@@Crypticmaskguitar the cab was looking for 2x12 ... does the 2x12 mesa cab have that low end too? .. ENGL 2x12 would give me those basses? And could be marshall 2x12 a good choice?..Mesa,ENGL,EVH and Marshall 2x12 are the cabs that i am thinking for DSL100HR..but i'm undecided 😅

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I have a Mesa 4x12 and a Mesa 2x12 Vertical Cabinet. The Vertical Cabinet doesn’t really produce the same low end. But I believe the 2x12 Horizontal gets pretty close. EVH uses Sheffields, I believe. Marshall still uses the 75s, I believe. ENGL would be a good choice, from what I’ve read. Best thing would be to try them all out if you have that option. Most stores will have a DSL100 to plug into. Pop the cabinet in front of you and move around. See if you can catch something that works for you. Cheers -Ryan

[@wolfmoonshadow7181]

@@Crypticmaskguitar thank you dude,is the best solution...i will do it,thanks for the video!

[@jerryleokirkman9460]

Nuno Bettencourt and Paul Gilbert

[@thephoenixcycle8854]

Why do people hate the jcm 2000?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

From what I can gather it’s a mixture of faulty boards and slight departure from the signature sound. Craziness I tells ya! Cheers -Ryan

[@warrenmcgillicuddy9647]

Dave Murray and Adrian Smith use dsls

[@markp4818]

Which version? They're both DSL's, duh...

[@jpmooretx]

Could you do a DSL100 vs JCM2000 100w?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

Eventually. I do have a TSL 100. But it probably won't happen for a while. I have 37 Amp Heads and quite a few requests. Cheers -Ryan

[@jpmooretx]

@@Crypticmaskguitar you are a bad ass guitar player. Thanks for the videos. I’d love to do them too one day

[@Carmelo.G]

Test JCM900 VS JCM2000 DSL50 ?

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

I made that video a little over a year ago. So you are in luck! Cheers -Ryan

[@Carmelo.G]

@@Crypticmaskguitar I hadn't seen sorry. You are the best thank you

[@vtrohatv5447]

Jcm 2000👏

[@wytewrabbit]

Jcm sound’s better ♥️😎

[@Steven-zg5bq]

dsl100 RULES

[@KlimatorUzurpator91]

I have jcm 2000 and i think dsl 100hr sounds better

[@jesusalucard3933]

I used to have the jcm2000 but has Many issues xd

[@vladonutyj]

I have 100hr and it's too much mid-range amp

[@applianceman6009]

UK vs Vietnam

[@savoirfaire8979]

Gotta be honest: I thought thus dude will be a lameass player, but then he busted out with metal riffs….

[@Crypticmaskguitar]

We all look deceiving when we get hit with “Age” hahaha Cheers -Ryan