Marshall JCM800 vs JCM2000 Comparison

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[@phantasmagora6542]

Forget the Marshalls, that's one hell of a strong desk!

[@Nightdare]

🤣

[@SuperJiggawhat]

Haha!!!

[@crashdummy40]

I was thinking the same thing. Like. Why didn't he just leave the heads in a pickup bed to keep them mobile

[@Matthias_Jabs]

Купил жцм900 комбо. Только с грелкой звучит как зверь )

[@Matthias_Jabs]

Лампу можно раскачивать как угодно)

[@profoundsamurai745]

I have aJCM 2000 DSL and I freakin love it. I honestly think that in the future they will be soughted after like the JCM800 is today.

[@gamesandguitars3901]

i have to agree with that on the modern DSL series, there’s something special with these amps

[@timothyholmes4588]

my jcm 2000 kills . it's a monster and gets great vintage tone as well. imo it's the best amp they ever made. it's got a great saturation that is just Marshall all the way.

[@SuperJiggawhat]

What year is it?

[@profoundsamurai745]

@@SuperJiggawhat 1999

[@gtrman69777]

I certainly hope not. Then the prices will go up. LOL

[@Chrismagdich]

Ok I’m stupid. I just realized you’re the guitarist for Rag doll. Goddamn great band. I’ve been listening to you guys for a while and never put the two together. Cheers.

[@KauffeyBean]

I am an amphead and loves researching amps and preamps - and your channel has been a godsend to me! Don't stop! :)

[@LeonTodd]

So many amps, so little time!

[@KauffeyBean]

@@LeonTodd More and more please! :D

[@ericellis2729]

Great video. The SD-1 is my favorite overdrive pedal to use for boosting.

[@alpo44]

Thanks for your vids I just bought a DSL 50 and I’m so excited thanks to your vids : )

[@otaviofenderstrat4220]

JCM800 +Boss SD-1 = killer tone.

[@darenwobensmith4868]

Yeah man I have been using my ds1 since the late 80swith a boss eq.awsomeness

[@Nightingale1887]

@@darenwobensmith4868 The SD-1 Super Over Drive is not a DS-1 Distortion.

[@michaelinglis8516]

@@Nightingale1887 I'm pretty sure he meant to type DSL not ds1 Probably an auto correct error. He also said he used his dsl with a boss EQ which can have the same effect as an overdrive when put before the amp like a TS9 or an SD-1. I personally prefer eq in the loop with a TS9 up front. I build my own pedals and nothing is same from my mods. With that said I've never owned an SD1. But since the TS9 is so similar I wonder if the sd1 would get much use. I'll probably build an SD1 on Vero soon cause I have an extra enclosure that would work well for an SD1.

[@sassulusmagnus]

Agreed. The SD-1may be a humble little dirt box but it just seems made for the JCM800. Makes the amp absolutely rage.

[@otaviofenderstrat4220]

@@michaelinglis8516 But he said he used since late 80's..i don't know when DSL line was launched...but what i said in the first post is JCM800 with Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive pedal as a boost in front of the amp....and that is killer. Some people have using the TS9 , that is a good option too. Eq pedal in the loop i never used , just effects pedals...Eq in the loop is good ?

[@rts4133]

Great tones from both Marshall's bro. Keep rocking

[@robertogrady2798]

Love the greenbacks... Thanks for a great quality demo and comparison.

[@LeonTodd]

My pleasure. Everything sounds good with greenbacks!

[@dasvassen]

That's AMAZING! I bought a JCM800 2205 and I haven't been able to come remotely close to the sound that you get out of that one, not even counting the boost with the SD-1. Great video!

[@LeonTodd]

Thanks so much for checking it out :)

[@2204JCM]

He’s using a 2203 in the video. Different circuit. 2205 uses diodes for distortion.

[@RockWeller]

Great explanation! Love the tone from the JCM2000!

[@firstnamelastname9370]

the new standard for gear demos. good job on these.

[@flagstamp]

Does anyone hear a crackly noise or something as the 2000 is being played? My ears might be fried from using 100 watt Marshalls all these years.

[@KingBlonde]

It's definitely not an amp artefact unless that particular amp is fried, but I doubt it because it sounds like digital clipping.

[@Ace96x10]

ya, same with 900 series. plastic brittle high end phony tone with cheap clipping. Awful stuff

[@Ghood2112]

I hear it too, definitely a clipping of some sort. My 2000 is now doing the ground cracking/popping.

[@julianortiz4151]

My JCM 2000 does the same crackling/popping. I’ve done quite a bit of research on this... it’s a problem called runaway biasing. Apparently, this is a flaw with the main circuit board being wired incorrectly or some circuit boards were defective. The main issue is that too much power is allowed to flow through the circuits instead of being properly suppressed by the resistors. It can cause overheating and damage to various transistors and even the pre amp and power amp valves. I’ve blown many power valves over the years thinking I was misusing my amp. It sounds great when you have fresh properly matched valves but over time the runaway biasing damages the valves, dramatically reducing their lifespan. Marshall did correct the problem and you can purchase a corrected circuit board and have a technician install it. Overall, it’s cheaper than buying a new amp. I’m looking into doing this now that I know what the issues is. I have a JCM 900 as back up until I can get this done. I recognized the crackling in the video immediately, as this is how the problem starts out but it eventually gets nasty and renders your amp next to unusable.

[@19MadMike95]

@@julianortiz4151 just got my 2000 back from the shop a month ago for runaway bias

[@LukeGallagher]

Great video man!

[@VexLosers]

Killer playing and super helpful video! There’s a very affordable 2000 DSL for sale that I’ve been strongly considering, and this gave me exactly what I needed to know

[@RistodGreat]

Really enjoyable sounds all round but I can't help wondering what an original 2203 vs reissue sounds like. And it would have been great to know which amp was playing after I alt-tabbed somewhere and lost track most of the time!

[@mustardproductions3531]

I feel like a used JCM 2000 dual super lead might be one of the best deals eva for a versatile, workin man rock/metal amp..

[@adamziolkowski2549]

Great video brother! Love the channel! 😉✌

[@Sir_Dickbag]

Wow, no way I thought they'd be that close. I think I may actually prefer the smoother voice of the 2000. I didn't want to, but that's the way it goes. lol I see you used York's v30's but whose Greenbacks did you use? Awesome vid!

[@LeonTodd]

Some IR's of my Marshall TV I shot. Really stoked with how they turned out.

[@paulsharkey6576]

I've had both. I loved my JCM2000. That was the winner for me.

[@qynNL]

Great review! I don't think the DSL gets enough credit as a mainstay and iconic amp. I always loved them, and the few I have played have been wonderful amps to work with. They have an awesome sonic range. I never understand why people (aka tone seekers) often overlook them.

[@pauloesterleoesterle3818]

Great video brother

[@alexzemaitis1207]

Marshall JCM 800 with 4x12 cab with Vintage 30’s and an Ibanez tube screamer to boost the distortion up a bit will sound killer

[@Mario666Heartless]

Basicaly everything sounds better with Greenbacks :D

[@LeonTodd]

I agree with this statement :)

[@ltxr9973]

Definitely. Much bigger difference than between the amps

[@valval7251]

g12-80!!

[@BoozyBeggar]

idk, I think I preferred the V30s.

[@samwilcockmusic]

I concur!

[@thetonekingofficial]

Great video dude.

[@LeonTodd]

Cheers mate! Just watched your video with the Marshall studio series which sounded pretty rad.

[@joolzhud]

You always sneak in Lay It Down, that riff is so good 👍

[@LeonTodd]

SO gooood!

[@prayl2850]

Great comparison! I have a JCM 2000 DSL 100w and love it!

[@LeonTodd]

Killer amps

[@spetersonmusic]

Nice! the JCM800 is a one trick pony, but man.. what a trick it is!

[@LeonTodd]

Very similar to the Soldano stuff in that regard. When you need that one sound, it's the best at what it does.

[@brpadington]

I wouldn't call it a one trick pony. You can get an ok clean out of it and with a couple of different boost pedals and an EQ and you can do quite a bit.

[@pauldigga5419]

Roll off the volume on your guitar. Learn dynamics and nothing stays one trick

[@xthexadvantagex]

I think they have quite a few tricks. The 2203/4 is essentially a JMP circuit so you really have zeppelin/ ACDC up through slayer and punk. It’s got that jimmy clean in it too I think. The Dolomite record by Scott Henderson is just an old 2203

[@brpadington]

Exactly! People that call them a one trick are just wrong. You can literally nail 25 years of several genres with a 2203+ a couple pedals.

[@eddieforfun]

I enjoyed the guitar playing Leon. Both amps rock and greenback speakers always sound great, every single time! Awesome presentation too :)

[@DavidSL2H]

Great video, I really like more the JCM800 ... have one from the early eighties with the SIR39 Mod and sounds crazy, but yeah, it is insanely loud .... with the SD1 and a G12-75 loaded cab is the tone of an era. The JCM2000 is fine but for that high gain / versatility purpose I prefer the JVM. Marshall forever!

[@paniccleo]

Both sound good. The DSL is gratifyingly similar. I remember the first time I played one it was the sound I'd always heard in my head. Ended up being more into Plexis, but 800s and DSLs are close runner ups.

[@mikemiller6628]

Both sound great.

[@danc3746]

What channel were you using on the DSL? Red? OD1 or OD2? Tone shift in or out?

[@riheg]

Hey man lovely tones 🤤 btw whats your opinion on PRS pickups? I like Gibson style pickups more, but I guess some of the difference comes down to the fact that PRS went for a more “recorded” sound.

[@sassulusmagnus]

The JCM800 2203 sounds particularly good through a 4x12 with G12-65's. They take a bit of the fizz out of the top end. The amp also sounds best with the master volume opened up a bit. Whole different sound.

[@patrickgiles9281]

I have an early 2000’s JCM2000, running through a 1960Vintage with Greenbacks (yes, I swapped the speakers) and my buddy who’s played for 30 years and our local amp tech who services the touring bands’ gear both say it’s the best sounding Marshall they’ve played. Maybe I got lucky, maybe they’re just that good. I also have good tubes in it (Tung-sol and Svetlana) and it just rips with incredible warmth and overtones. Love love love that amp. Currently playing a 2014 Gibson Les Paul Custom and Charvel Pro Mod San Dimas. Give the 2000 a look. There are lemons out there buy some are absolute gems.

[@LeonTodd]

I'm yet to hear a bad one TBH (I also have two of the 100w heads kicking around here). It rules with greenbacks hey!

[@eddiem4868]

It's a great amp with the right speakers for sure!

[@turnoff789456]

I HAVE A JCM2000 AND SWITCHED OUT THE SPEAKERS TO THE REAL MADE IN ENGLAND GREEN BACKS. IT GOES FROM AC/DC TO METALLICA NO PROBLEM. WHEN WE PUT SHOWS ON IN CHICAGO, ALL THE BANDS PLAYING WOULD ASK US TO SULPLY 2 JCM200 50 WATTS FOR ALL THE SHOWS.

[@Albee213]

Love my JCM2000 TSL 100.

[@techdeathhippie6319]

I still have mine I bought new in 1999 . They are kick ass amps . As good as any Marshall . The thing that throws people off is that the bias slips faster on them. But once biased right boom it’s king

[@gabrieltoneguitars9365]

First time I have ever seen the word LOVE and 100 used together

[@Twobarpsi]

Mine as well!

[@ronniethomas6335]

Techdeath Hippie What does bias slips mean? Just curious.

[@Twobarpsi]

@@ronniethomas6335 it means the required voltage, that the tubes need to operate correctly, loses stability, and becomes uncontrolled, causing failure.

[@Leesherwood]

Personally ,I don't think I've ever heard these two amps sound so close vocally in a you tube video. Well done.

[@LeonTodd]

Much appreciated :) The DSL is criminally underrated.

[@MrRookie86]

Do you know how effect loop works on DSL100? I'm trying it to work with GT10, but no luck so far. :/

[@Hrledood911]

Leon, I have a Marshall DSL100H and i just retubed it with JJ EL34 HP. What are your preferred tubes for that amp or any Marshall?

[@mikkiosantoro1]

Hi Leon! compliment for the channel. What do you think about the effect loop of the 2203x? it's good and transparent?

[@drewpennell8362]

I have 2 of the jcm2000s , they’re both fantastic. I had a 2204 for a few years-also sounded great. Got it cheap and wound up selling it and making some good money on it. Dialing them all in right I feel like they’ll all sound great-plus using greenbacks or a GB cab sim is 90% of the tone right there. Killer video and having both amps you just want to play both! Thanks for great demos Leon

[@tylerjacob6124]

What pedal did you use for the metal tone? I have a dsl 100 and in my opinion, mine sounds a little off. By that, I mean it sounds like neutral and a little too crunchy. When I boost the gain, I just can't achieve a metal tone.

[@metalinl-a1128]

My favorite setup with the JCM800 was the give and take" setup i call it. Jcm800 cabs Gt12-75s . Also ran a Bogner bottom for a few yrs. V30S AND G12-75S. Sound dispersement. Nice big room or iso booth for recording. 1981 JCM800. 4 SIEMENS NOS EL34 medium size quad power tubes. Ran old mullard 12ax7 in V1 and a pair of Sylvania military grade 12ax7s in 2 and 3 slots. My BOSS OD 1 was another distinct tone shaper for the end result. I used it as a clean boost most of the time. Again your taste in music. . My 72 Les Paul Custom. Used WCR pups med. Output. 7.4 7.6... Gain between 6. to 8. Volume minimum 4+. 6 Mid 5.1 to 6.1 Treble 3.1 to 4.0 Bass 7-8. Your taste in the end. very pedal friendly amp. JCM800. 300 yr old wood from the Paul. So on. Yea ran that setupnfrom thev80s on up. Used a GP10000 Metaltronix in the front door and a quadraverb for a bit.

[@mustardproductions3531]

thats some super secret info your givin up.. Good stuff here if anyone is noticing.. who is this masked man?

[@Razorrr16]

That RATT riff

[@dickieradd]

You got me subscribed with this video. I own the JCM 2000 and when I bought I had NO clue what it was, I just wanted my 1st Marshall

[@LeonTodd]

You chose well!

[@drbonkerssoundlabllc]

Which model Radial Amp switcher are you using? IT sounds really transparent in terms of the load hitting each amp.

[@overdrivenbrain]

Congratulations man, best comparison video between amps ever, pretty interesting, you play pretty good too! Dont know why but the Dsl seems to sound a bit lower. Were the volumes the same? Cheers man!

[@LeonTodd]

i did my best to match the volumes but listening back the DSL is a tiny bit lower. Stoked you like the vid :)

[@davidgalaviz2004]

I did the same thing at a Guitar Center years ago and reached the same conclusion. They sound very similar but not exactly the same. Man I'd like to hear you do a review on the JVM 410.

[@B2Rockin]

The JCM 800 reminds me of the Diezel of Marshalls ;). I have a DSL 50 and love it, really think it is going to be a vintage piece soon, if it isn’t already. Also looking at the Kerry King JCM 800 to get that master volume ;). Wonder how different it would sound up against a 2203. You rock dude, thanks for the video!! 🤘🏻

[@mulletmule]

I have to say it's impressive how close you can get your DSL to the 800. The 800 just has some sort of classic mid thump I can't explain. Do you have the DSL gain on 2?

[@ukdc-acdctribute1142]

Hi Leon, I play guitar for UK/DC and have recently bought a 2000. Finding the rhythm sound was easy enough but when I roll up the guitar vol for solos it seems to fall on its ass. I'm running crunch, gain varies between 3 o'clock and max and volume tends to be somewhere between 4 and 5, eq give or take around noon but I've tried various. Sound needs to remain dry, a touch reverb is all (Awful rev on the 2000). It's just lacking that bit if bite. I'd say I'm 80% happy, but it's missing a bit of attack. Adding the OD pedal is too meaty for AC/DC, perhaps a boss DS1 would give it enough of a kick or better reverb to help it ring out just a touch. No pedal boards or footswitches, plug and play. What's your thoughts? Thanks, Mike.

[@gitksanamo3854]

Great vid. Man, that 2000 does a pretty great job.

[@LeonTodd]

More than holds its own!

[@alexwoolridge94aw]

I own 3 jcm2000s but my 2203 is just awesome. Cool video man

[@metalinsights9664]

It would have been nice to share the final settings on each amp. Plus, it would have made more sense to set the JCM800 and then match the DSL2000's tone, rather than continue to make adjustments to the JCM800's EQ, making it somewhat of a moving target.

[@LopetaJo123]

that hamer in the background at the beginning of the video, beautiful guitar

[@sadstatue25]

Great video. Thank you. I just purchased the 2000 DSL. Can't wait to play it.

[@LeonTodd]

Congratulations it's a great amp

[@chadw8119]

Funny that you have the amp, but posted on this video before you played on it. Go play with your amp lol

[@sadstatue25]

@@chadw8119 Dude this was 5 years ago. I said I purchased it. Not delivered yet at that time..

[@garyclay5595]

Hi Leon. Gary from Tasmania. I really like your playing. You sound like the Brooster brothers from the Angels. I'm a huge fan of Marshall amps I own two of them. Keep the videos coming. I enjoy the sounds. This is the type of music that I grew up with. Take care.

[@lukevonpuke]

Thank you so much for posting this highly useful video. I used to own a JCM800 2x12 combo and had to get rid because, like you said, it's just way too loud and just sounds thin at the level of volume that many of us get to play. Our singer used to moan like hell if I took it anywhere near 2! I sold it and bought a TSL100 but haven't been able to dial in that sound I loved. So I've just bought a used DSL50 on eBay for £350 after watching your videos. Thanks again. P.s. TSL100 for sale ;)

[@94SexyStang]

just got a DSL100, because I wanted the more Modern distortion(for Ozzy and Pantera).....volume is WAY manageable....doesn't even get Loud till 4, then Really starts to crank!

[@mmhutchinson]

The TSL is an odd bird that is for sure

[@mikelucero6973]

I watch these vids more just to hear you play.

[@nigel900]

My buddy has JCM 2000, and it has a very good clean channel but I found it a bit wanting on the gain channel. It was more mid scooped than my 1987x Plexi or JVM 205H, and felt less responsive in the eq. Of course cranked, they all sound good… Great video! 👍🏻

[@rocknroling6869]

Fantastic video! I use to have an old JCM 2000 and miss it. I was looking at picking one up again. Have you had any experience playing the newer DSL 100 Heads against the original JCM 2000 DSL? You have a great ear and I would love your input. I hear the 2018's are less harsh on the treble values. (I was always cutting those anyways).

[@LeonTodd]

I used one as a backline amp a few times on tour and it was decent. The resonance control is a nice touch instead of the deep switch. The UK DSL50 is still my favourite Marshall ever.

[@robwallinga5880]

Wait. I have the Jcm2000. What are the settings that you settled on? Where is the dials dude?

[@wernerschmidt7186]

Could you please do a Comparison between Marshal Vintage Modern and Marshall Origin

[@theausdog]

but would you metal with a jcm 2k? im about ready to get a megalith based on your vid of it

[@RolandoVR]

Hi pal, were those celestion V30's at 0:41?

[@davidarmstrong6153]

Awesome vid Leon 👍 As a 2000 dsl100 owner (year 2001) i can relate to the posters talking about bias issues popping cracking etc my one does that only until warmed up (which does not take long) I run it thru a marshall 1960A cab 4x12 gt12-75s very hard to get a tone you don't like on any channel. Just requires some slight tweakage between volume and gain. Similar to you i like the clean channels boosted. I use a good old tube screamer ts808 and to my ears the tone is golden. Pure Marshall rock. Thanks again Leon for all your content (especially anything jcm 2000 dsl100 related! ) 🤘

[@LeonTodd]

DSL and 1960a cab gets it done

[@Briman24]

The dsl's after 2003 don't have the bias drift problem anymore

[@crumbummin9459]

Hey dude! My band is thinking of buying a JCM 2000 DSL 50. We heard that they often need repairs. Can you lend any advice or reasoning for this, like what kind of repairs are typically needed, and how costly? And what's the advantage of going with the DSL 100 vs 50? Any help you can give would be great. Love your channel!

[@christophermurphy7113]

My DSL 50 head has been going strong since I bought it new in 1998. Only ever needed one repair, a loose impedance selector switch last autumn.

[@algreen266]

Please can you tell me the difference between Marshall JCM 900 100w model 4100 dual gain and reverb amp head. And your Jcm 800 or 900 thank you

[@redpowerthrasher5744]

I got both heads. They are both great amps for whatever tone you want to do.

[@TheGuitaristFrom1984]

Damn, I dig the JCM 800 boosted with the SD-1! What a great tone!

[@LeonTodd]

Classic stuff

[@jejealin]

Excellent!!!!which one has more dynamics? the difference is very noticeable? PLease do a strat version!!!! Thanks for sharing such useful information in your videos!!!!

[@LeonTodd]

OOOh with the Strat will be very interesting :D

[@Eventual420]

Gary Richrath, REO, Marshall JTM/JMP 50W, Les Paul/PAF to me is the signature Marshall tone. Early Rush. Styx. The 800 and the amps that followed are great too, more modern, Ratt. They sound incredible. 45lbs (the 800). Don't ever change, Leon.

[@jimcatmandude9316]

I too play a 1974 JMP 50...I used to have one with the small emblem on the front and sold it and Oh I wish I had that back...

[@Eventual420]

Jim CatManDude, super lively little amplifiers! The little amp that could! 😜

[@SuperJiggawhat]

I'm buying a Marshall soon. I play lots of Classic rock, but also heavy metal. What would you suggest @LeonTodd or fans?

[@sebastianberroeta8951]

Hi leon! Amazing video! Do you think the greenbacks are the best celestion speakers for jcm 2000s???

[@LeonTodd]

Speaker choice is critical in what you want to achieve, so there's no best speaker that will cover everyone's taste. Having said that, greenbacks will let you nail the classic Marshall tones with these amps.

[@krysguitarperformer]

hi, which attenuator do you use ?

[@Ammo150]

What amp tubes does the jcm 2000 use? Thank You

[@JoelWallington]

How quietly can you play the DSL and have it sound good? Bedroom-ish or nah?

[@metalfather8139]

Could you please do me a wonderful favor an see if the length an width of the chassis is the same?

[@BenCoteMusic]

Awesome! I ended picking up an old 1998 DSL after watching your videos! Which channel do you have the DSL on? Looks like the red channel... is it Lead 1 or 2?

[@LeonTodd]

Lead 1. Green channel crunch is killer too!

[@BenCoteMusic]

Cool thanks!

[@mickhoward3954]

You had me at rock n' roll

[@SightInjection]

Great video!

[@LeonTodd]

Cheers for watching, what were your thoughts on the two amps?

[@SightInjection]

Leon Todd The JCM 2000 is a ton of fun, a really great amp that works well live and is quite reliable as well. The 800 is great as well, sounds like it needs a boost a little more then the DSL. Everything on 7 rocks on the DSL I can’t speak for the 800 I have a few jubilees and the sounds a little different.

[@GoffCool]

The tone!!! 😯 I want a Marshall now 🤤

[@kospandx]

What kind of Greenbacks are those? I use a 4x12 with the newer 25w version, and the bass response is completely different.

[@LeonTodd]

I've got a mid/late 90's Marshall TV cab so i'm guessing the older version.

[@whiskerbiscuit6674]

It sounds like there's a crackling sound. Is the track clipping?

[@andrewwalsham5007]

Have you ever done a DSL vs SL-X comparison? That would be fun!

[@adamrichards2072]

Great comparison Leon. Would love to see the same thing with a jvm in place of the dsl.

[@LeonTodd]

I need to find out which one of my buddies has a JVM now!

[@demondik]

JCM800's are what made mid to late 80's metal guitar, metal guitar! I think everybody used 'em! lol Well, almost everybody.

[@LeonTodd]

It's the sound of an era.

[@guitarzarfun]

Agreed! I just bought a old Boss SD-1 made in 1983..Been playing since the late 80's and never had one til now. Can't believe how it adds that natural 3d- sounding distortion to a tube amp. I'm using with a Laney GH50l and it sounds completely killer!

[@andrewgarcia3136]

I have one, it has a few tricks, but the loud marshall one is indeed the best

[@guitarexpert2245]

@@andrewgarcia3136 2204 way too loud and no FX Loop was not good. Sold it and never looked back, have the 2000, just a different amp with way more gain on tap.

[@andrewgarcia3136]

@@guitarexpert2245 the jcm2000 amps are a lot more usuable, I've actually been thinking about grabbing a used dsl50, or maybe even a dsl1 to use at home. They're good amps. The old jcm 800s have bigger iron, though. No comparison in terms of volume and punch, closer to an old hiwatt than most new Marshalls

[@godofthunder0720]

They made both amps for a long time. They are both great amps. They have been reissuing the JCM800s for years because they are great. The JCM2000s were their best selling tube amps of all time. They are basically still making them as the DSL series because they sold so well and are great amps. Owning both would be the best idea. I have had the DSL and still own a TSL. They are both great amps but it is nice to have the extra channel on the TSL. They both sound really similar otherwise.

[@Amp047]

Great comparison! Any chance of 800 vs VM? :-)

[@LeonTodd]

Coming as soon as I can do it!

[@guitarist6494]

Absolute quality my friend. I wasn’t expecting these 2 to sound so similar. ...I know they’re the same amp but with a different name but do you know if there’s much difference between the JCM 2000 and a DSL 100?

[@LeonTodd]

The JCM2000 series are made in England and came in DSL50, DSL100, TSl60 and TSL100 variations. The newer DSL100H is made overseas and has a depth knob instead of the bass shift button and a few other newer features.

[@L1amZR]

Leon Todd Oh cool, how different are they sound wise ?

[@jeffhudson2346]

actually there is a lot of differences between the 2. The JCM 800 used a diode to add gain to the preamp, and also used power amp distortion. The JCM 2000 used more tubes in preamp and created all distortion the preamp without diodes, and did not rely on power amp distortion like the 800. So you get a lot of gain but you also can get a nice clean/low gain sound.

[@LeonTodd]

L1amZR I haven't compared them side by side unfortunately

[@Nymblz]

Jeff, I think you're thinking of the JCM 900. JCM800s definitely had some models (2203/2204 ) w/o the diode clipping.

[@jette2001]

whats the red cord connecting the two heads for??

[@jimotten5887]

I’ve had a dsl 50, a 2203 from late 80’s and now i own a 2204 from 1982 with the vertical input. Man. She kills everything. Pull the master up and you’ll have beautiful clean tones. Thanks for the vid! Marshalls are one trick but it’s the best trick you’ll ever see. If you want real Marshall sound buy a plexi or an old 800 imho. Rock out! (Probably wear plugs or put that attenuator in between)😉

[@trollmunchkinzm4364]

How much should I pay for a used one? I see a lot of ppl saying not to pay more than $600 but I cant find one for less than $700 if at all.

[@sunnychan2193]

is the amp plugged into the computer?

[@fuckerknuckles1]

Also with the zakk trick did you mean zero gain on the pedal but not the amp? cheers

[@lecorsaire2283]

Zero drive on the pedal. Your amp’s gain would be on 6-7 or whatever you like. Basically you put the gain all the way down, you turn on the pedal’s volume to 3 o’clock and set the tone somewhere between 10 and 2 o’clock to your liking. If you want a great overdrive get the Maxon OD808. It’s one of the best for the least amount of money. People use overdrives even with amps that can produce crushing thick distortion like the Dual Rectifier, Mark series, etc. They always add something special.

[@goodenoughguitar8824]

Nice and fun to watch! Greetings from Sweden! :-)

[@LeonTodd]

Thanks so much for watching. I'd love to visit Sweden one day!

[@goodenoughguitar8824]

You are very welcome!! I think its a little bit colder here though. Cheers my friend! /Christian

[@aceofspades1542]

Hi, what are the settingson the JCM800 ??? Lovely tone 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@LeonTodd]

Bass 3 Middle 7 Treble 8 Presence 8 Gain 7 Master 5. Cheers!

[@guitarlair]

hey Leon, love you videos bro.. just one correction, Zakk does not use his SD-1 with the gain on zero, he uses the gain around 12/13, I saw his pedalboard once during a BLS tour, he uses the gain of the pedal as well.

[@afterstars]

Zakk sets his SD-1 like: Level - 2 o clock, Tone - varies (I set mine generally at around 10 o clock). Gain - 2 o clock.

[@fuckerknuckles1]

Sorry did i miss something, what are green backs?