The combination of a 335 style guitar and a Marshall is just a thing of beauty.
@dooshmagee21654 жыл бұрын
dude that intro was crazy, one of my favorites of all time
@davidwahl31364 жыл бұрын
60000 another step , you got already 20000 more subscribers then when I discovered your Channel. And it's only about music, no compromise and nothing artificial in your videos. Just direct from heart to heart. Congratulations Dave.
@JamesWood-ix8ov4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure his channel was sub 10k when I found it years ago!
@darrenc87764 жыл бұрын
We'll I watched Dave when he first started after top hat guitars. So there..... no one cares ........ho ok
@manit33074 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sick intro, reminds me of Mr Page in “Since i’ve Been loving you”. Such a tasteful playing Dave, awesome! The JTM30 in 2x10 was my first amp. Still own it and love it.
@erikvaldur33342 ай бұрын
I've had the 60 and 30. I still have the JTM30 1. 12 combo. Sold my 60. 2. 12 combo because I liked the 30 better. Much better dirty tone with the 30 to my ears. I do miss the duel reverb on the 60 but that's about it.
@radocool14 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave! First off, congratulations to acquiring your new amp! These were produced, I believe, for only 7 months (first introduced in 1996 and superseded by the JCM600 sometime in 1997). Very good sounding clean channel, the overdrive channel sounds OK, considering there are some clipping diodes in the signal path. The bad news is, these jtm series were not engineered very well. The horizontal position of the valves and of the EL34’s in the output section in particular, may lead to overheating issues if they are biased too hot and played at stage volume for a long period of time. The second problem is the unfortunate placement of two electrolytic caps(mounted on a pcb) right below the power valves. The heat will cause the electrolyte of said caps to boil off over time, so they dry up much earlier and don’t smooth out the dc voltage coming the bridge rectifier anymore. You will notice it by hearing some ungodly amounts of hum, ranging from 60Hz to 100Hz.
@HenkdeVries-h6g3 ай бұрын
That is unfortunate
@joelcamp54454 жыл бұрын
Keep it in your amp arsenal Dave. My favourite sounds I've heard you get from an amp, you got those valves cookin', such succulent tones;)!
@schirack485073 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is so good man. I have a great story of buying one of these amps for 40 bucks. Took it home cleaned it up and got it working after resoldering a few things and boom awesome little Amp.
@johngreene60144 жыл бұрын
Sorry Dave ,but you on that valve amp is on another level completely. stick with the valves.
@thekitowl4 жыл бұрын
john greene totally.
@darrenc87764 жыл бұрын
Yep have to agree
@mikeanderson47704 жыл бұрын
agreed! It seemed to inspire some NEXT level playing!
@bakters4 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@GuitarTalkunedited4 жыл бұрын
To me it sounds so much warmer and alive than the MGs. On a par with the CR120. That's just my ears though:)
@georgeda90 Жыл бұрын
Installing a thick metal plate between tubes and the system works great,keeps the hotness away.Great playing dave.
@deanallen64616 күн бұрын
Definitely fit a heat sink above the valves will stop most problems with this amp,I have the 15” version sounds amazing
@alexpaul11734 жыл бұрын
Yes I've had one for years blows internal fuse regularly has been at amp tech so often one of the reasons you and this amp convinced me to go to solid state. I'm very happy with my silver stripe bandit very solid
@davidstorm40154 жыл бұрын
We have a JCM600 2 x 12, which was the successor to the JTM60 amps. All of this series can suffer from overheating issues, but I think the JCM600's less so, as they have a plastic grille in the top of the cabinet which lets some of the heat out. We got our JCM600 for less than £300 a couple of years back, in great condition, but cutting out intermittently. However, I tested the tube bias and it was biased too hot. Since adjusting this it has run flawlessly for 2 years and is used heavily by my son, often for 8 hours per day. Great tones, both clean and overdriven.
@brianmccarthy87348 ай бұрын
Did you install the aluminum plate above the tubes? Heat soak.
@younandotube Жыл бұрын
It's an explosion of blues feelings listening your playing.
@brunosanches46684 жыл бұрын
I cried like a baby on the telecaster part. So beautiful!
@paulunderwood40464 жыл бұрын
I am not a valve snob and I personally have solid state and Tube amps but Dave this is the best tone you have ever had ...in my opinion!😁
@zisiskoutsoumbas43524 жыл бұрын
At 3:40 I got a Sergio Leone spaghetti vibe. What a sweet sound!
@CraigEnser4 жыл бұрын
That was one of the best thing about solid state and modelers vs tube amps. Every time I plug in my strymon iridium, it sounds the same. Every time I plug into my ac30, it sounds different. One day the ac30 sounds amazing, next day it sounds terrible.
@sid35gb4 жыл бұрын
Yep I had an AC15 it got replaced by a blues cube stage 60watt amp solid state is much more consistent and when built properly sound awesome.
@darrenc87764 жыл бұрын
I find that with my valve amps. I've had mostly marshall and fenders and there all the same. I don't mind it because when there good there far better than solid state to my ears anyway. I have a hot rod deluxe and a marshall origin 20 so different brands and one day you plug in and it's like the best sound ever every pedal every guitar sound killer then the next time awful both amps some times the marshall some times fender. But I've here lots of amp guys say the voltage in you house fluctuates a lot your valves need the correct voltage and there's not much tolerance before they sound bad. You should be getting 230v but this can go down to 220v or be at 245v. You can get a regulator to keep it even never tried one but it makes sense
@paulcowart31744 жыл бұрын
Yes very much happens I'm thinking about investing in a "Brown Box" that is basically a voltage regulator Heard good things about them
@JN-North.Guitars4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I nearly bought one of theses in the 90’s when they first came out. Since then I have owned Dr Z’s, Fender twins, Supers, I currently own a Mesa Lonestar 100w and Marshall Silver Jubilee RI and JVM never had problems with inconsistent sounds or reliability issues....not once. My fave is the Jub
@donharrold13754 жыл бұрын
Honestly I much prefer valve amps. They sound fuller and warmer and more responsive to me, particularly when they’re warmed up and turned up to a decent volume. The main issue is that you have to turn them up to get the best out of them and that makes anything bigger than 5W more or less unusable in the home or project studio environment. They’re just far far too loud. What most people need is a small valve amp that you can crank the master past half way without annoying the neighbours. Unfortunately there aren’t really any options that tick all the boxes. I want something small (1-2 Watts) that has a quality 12” speaker, the full range of EQ options AND an effects loop so that I can run delay and reverb between the pre-amp and power amp. All of the small amps I am aware of have a single tone knob a cheap 8” speaker and no effects loop.
@darwinsaye4 жыл бұрын
These were Marshall’s answer to/attempt at a more Fender-like sound. Higher headroom, crisper highs. They sound beautiful, but I’d keep a fan aimed into the back. Known for overheating badly. There’s a mod some people do to put a shield above the tubes.
@ralphy65264 жыл бұрын
Dave, this is the best I've heard you play. Through this amp your sound is remarkable. Thanks.
@400_billion_suns4 жыл бұрын
Boy that amp sounds good through your fingers! A nice warm crunch like a good peanut brittle toffee melted over the top of cool ice cream... now I’m hungry :D
@sonnygutierrez3979 Жыл бұрын
Dave! You are truly a fantastic player! I aspire to be able to play like that some day sooner than later. Thanks once again for sharing!
@lordimpaler38994 жыл бұрын
Man that 335 is THICC AF!!! And thats a hellacious tone. This wasn't a gear demo, this was a conversation with those of us with ears to hear
@craig78104 жыл бұрын
Yes Dave, I've got one. I had one years ago and it kept blowing up and overheating so got rid of it. Had loads of amps since and could never get close to the sweet tone of the jtm 60 so had to bit another luckily this works great and has the sweetest Marshall cleans ever.
@megacluckcluck23024 жыл бұрын
The Gilmour in that intro 😍😍😍
@Peter-fi5mv4 жыл бұрын
Very excellent channel dude. Keeping it reals is where it’s at. Lots of good info and interesting insights. Peace out from Ireland. ✌️🤘
@nichendrix3 жыл бұрын
I have this amp, I made two mods, one was putting a cooling fan on the cage, and the other was putting a switch that turns off the clipping diodes part of the boost channel circuit, and the drive becomes even more wicked.
@stationless42053 ай бұрын
Add a vent behind the handle like the head version, sorted. worked for mine, bought from new!
@iwct4 жыл бұрын
I had a JTM 30, the two by10, best sounding amp I’ve ever had, and I’ve had a fair few including a Marshall DSL 602, Marshall DSL 401, Fender HRD, Fender Blues Junior, and currently H&K Statesman ( which is pretty good). The JTMs had overheating issues. Mine blew up and caught fire once! However, once I had the transformer replaced it was great. Sadly I joined a band where the other guitarist used a 100watt stack, and a very loud drummer who told me I needed a louder amp, so I traded it 😒
@auntjenifer77742 жыл бұрын
Yeah ! I've got the jcm600 and it doesn't seem like 60 watts to me ! More like 30-35 but maybe I need 2 X 16 ohm cabinets to get full power !?
@thedrunkbrit58574 жыл бұрын
That was some of the most expressive and beautiful guitar playing I’ve ever heard.
@craigsowerby4424 жыл бұрын
I have the jcm 600 2x12 basically the same amp. Love mine it’s like having a JCM 800 (clean channel) and a JCM 900 (OD channel gain 20) in one box 👍
@xdef1ne11 ай бұрын
I have one of these except it’s the 3x10 version. I got it for $400NZD, I really like it.
@dingdong60694 жыл бұрын
I totally get your main 'grinds my gears' gripe about the consistency of valve amps. I've played JCM800's for decades and it's the only thing I can ever fault them on. They can vary. And there is no way around that. And its flipping annoying some days. I also totally get you're a Strat guy through and through cos I am too. But... I can't help comment that you playing an E335 through a valve Marshall works so well for your sound. It really does. Your sound here is simply sweeter, warmer and more vibrant. But they're probably not the right words. The best way I've ever had it described to me me is it's akin to switching a stereo sound system on to play your fave song but one of the speakers isn't working.... but sometimes you just simply touch the lead and the other speaker explodes into life. Its that moment of 'clarity' and 'aliveness' and 'moreness' that you experience. It honestly simply sounds better. Again appreciate that's not your preferred 'comfort zone' so ultimately you'll choose what works on all levels for you inc feel of the guitar. And that's of course as it should be. But your E335 through these Marshall valves sound is stunning. Your Strats and especially your LP still sound better through the solid MG's. But the 335 sound here is eclipsing all of that.
@larrimos4 жыл бұрын
Well said, I totally agree.
@darrenc87764 жыл бұрын
You can get something to stop your voltage fluctuation sorted wich is supposed to be a big issue with valves
@darrenc87764 жыл бұрын
I mean your input voltage from the wall
@williamlive7252 Жыл бұрын
Great playing Dave , the bit at 35.20 on the tele is the business , Ive heard the JTM 60 before never grabbed my attention , until now that is. Thanks Dave
@thenovello-pugh4 жыл бұрын
You are a talented individual sir! Amazing - keep the videos coming!
@davidpaterson34434 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, amazing playing, thanks for showcasing this amp and making it sound absolutely amazing. I still have the 2x12 in pristine condition, bought it new & still has the original valves (hardly ever used), so hopefully this vid will soar the second hand price sky high and I can retire to a Caribbean island ( once lockdown is lifted of course) 😁👌👏 P.s.regards the heat issue, I still have my 'cage' on the amp but fixed a piece of aluminium sheet plate above the tubes, to deflect the heat, this also works....
@hotrod76955 ай бұрын
Very nice I have a jtm60 head with a mesa 4x12 large cab and I wish I could get your tone and play like you GREAT JOB
@erikvaldur33342 ай бұрын
The stock Heritage 12" speakers have a lot to do with the amps tone. Those speakers are fantastic.
@andytraverse3 жыл бұрын
JTM30 2x10 was my first proper amp 20 years ago, still own it and use it. Now have a studio vintage but I can’t part with it!
@otschie2 жыл бұрын
indepth review nothing left untouched... gotta love the inconsistency though it lets us forgive oure mistakes by beeing but a moments fading spirit or its anoying or somth... also you are awesome sub.
@auntjenifer77744 жыл бұрын
They mounted the tubes like that because they were taking chassis from a combo and mounted that way to allow pcb boards for the other stuff on the amp. It's got 2 effect loops and a bunch of other stuff on the back and on order to fit that all in a head unit they had to develop it that way they did.
@LauraSquirrel4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Now, you can get rid of all of those tin can amps. LOL I'm kidding. I still love the Oranges. But, the amp did sound great.
@paulcoleman30814 жыл бұрын
That intro was just wonderful. Absolutely torrid. Made me make a serious "yeah!" face for the whole duration of it so that my jaw hurt by the end. If you could time travel and put that out as the first track of an album (in 1968, say), you'd be a superstar! In fact, you ARE a superstar, but you know what I mean. Really lovely to meet your new friend, even if he's only staying for the summer.
@cussy774 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing Dave love marshalls
@vintagetone224 жыл бұрын
hendrix used to slash his speakers to get more distortion.never mind the rips. ive got a greenback celestion from the 70s g12m has 2 rips 4 cm long each and it still sound amazing .i will leave it as it is.has the 444 cone stamp.
@midgeburleigh56944 жыл бұрын
Hello from Scotland. Dave Davis of the Kinks (Rays' brother) is credited with being the first to slash the amp mesh. Dave Davis tells of the time when he couldn't get the sound he wanted and out of sheer frustration just slashed four rips on the cover. After he started playing again and heard the Raw sound that came out, he let the other guys hear it, put it over a piano riff that Ray was fooling with and... You Really Got Me" was the result! 👍🎸
@vintagetone224 жыл бұрын
@@midgeburleigh5694 yeah i mean it sound good ive got both greenback celestion speakers and belive me the ripped cone somehow sound good .i left it as it is i can recone it but im glad i didnt something in those cones is special.ive got the uk made reissued in 2000 but its not the same.although they still sound amazing but the old one sound alive and respond to a small touch .
@dadmadforgot40504 жыл бұрын
Wow! Used this amp all the time in the 90s! Awesome 👏
@auntjenifer77744 жыл бұрын
Yes ! I use a Marshall jcm 600 head just like yours here ! It's great ! EL-34 power tubes and in Canada they came with 6L6 power tubes.
@user-mr1ku5iz8l9 ай бұрын
It's like I"m hearing Peter Green and the vibrato of Paul Kossoff. Very nice.
@johnnyringo81744 жыл бұрын
That amp sounds great man. I would say it's a keeper. Nice melodies.
@rogerYT694 жыл бұрын
wow, amp sounds amazing!!!
@caniican4 жыл бұрын
So let me tell you what I hear please. To be precise when I listen to Carlos Santana live throughout my life having seen him nearly 20 times in addition to his albums and live albums I hear the exact same warm and buttery delicious tone coming out of your guitar Dave as I did when I listen to Carlos when he really grabbed me as you just did. Great stuff my man! There's some live CDs and videos available live Santana in South America, I believe and or live in Mexico where the tone you're playing was right on what I heard and enjoyed so much. you're very inspiring thanks man keep up the great work
@dwaynejessome17284 жыл бұрын
wow! some sweet Funkadelic Maggot Brain ish vibe / tone going on in the second jam. so happy that I'll be hearing this amp in videos to come!
@dancompton17284 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 60k! I appreciate your honesty and passion for the guitar! You may have gotten there faster if you tried to make dumb memes or started KZbin drama with other creators, but you stuck to your guns and were yourself! Thanks for entertaining me for brief moments throughout the week! Well deserved!
@tns44214 жыл бұрын
Lemmy once told that if it says Marshall then grab it. I think that real Marshall is a valve Marshall and the tone is just there....no pedals, no boxes, just this....thanks!!
@berniejii37394 жыл бұрын
You deserve a huge audience as a player Dave. And I couldn't care less what gear you use!
@svenzia Жыл бұрын
i care about his gear, because i care for dave. hurraaaaaah!
@brianb48774 жыл бұрын
sounds so good!
@jonathanivanov85204 жыл бұрын
24:38 he is in an other dimension
@joejitsumusic4 жыл бұрын
what an amazing gorgeous amp
@johnwebb25624 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, if you are keeping your amp don't buy a new speaker, you can repair the cone with some industrial paper towels and PVA glue then spray paint it Black with a tin of automotive black paint from Poundland and it will sound fantastic, I've done it and it adds character to the sound. Good luck, Best regards. John.
@rodneyhart99854 жыл бұрын
See l told ya, those don't suck,still have mine l bought in 93', great combo, versatility, small, but can blow the windows out of my house, don't jam a brunch of gear around it like some I've seen and say it over heats,60 waaatttsss!!! Change is good Dave, especially when they thro it in my hat✌️
@kennyh5083 Жыл бұрын
Dave you jus flat out ROCK, an that's all there's to it!
@steven.sakkas2 жыл бұрын
My favourite youtube guitarist by far!
@thedavesimpson2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. :)
@dannysnow464 жыл бұрын
You seem in great spirits today dave, its great to see you smiling and having a good time mate! 😊
@frankiec27654 жыл бұрын
Cheers from Liverpool NY! Great intro man and a great vid. Thanks Dave. :-)
@scienceisgod13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Good stuff! I bought mine new in '95. I have yet to have any issues with it.
@RevMishka3 жыл бұрын
You rock Dave...I own one of these JTM60’s and I feel the same way! The removal of the tube cage is a very good idea...of course keep it in case you’re going to transport it, but keep it off at home in the studio...great video!
@blues4jesus3 жыл бұрын
What is the issue with the tube cage? Im looking at getting one of these. Do they cause the tubes to over heat? Thats one issue that seems common with this amp tubes cooking to board, a heat soak between the tubes and the board might be a solution? any thoughts? Dave? anybody :) Thanks I just don't want o pickup up somebody elses problem
@truenergy4 жыл бұрын
Wow Dave! Loved your opening jam, it was awesome.
@geet777773 жыл бұрын
the only guitar playing on youtube that I have ever enjoyed in my entire life. wish we could jam man. nobody can fuckin play.
@Mojoman574 жыл бұрын
You're amazing, brother. Much love.
@npinhal4 жыл бұрын
You sound amazing on this amp! I had one just like this one, this was the first time I regret selling it....I was told that the tube placing was made so it would reduce the amp heating ( don’t know if that it’s true or not ) makes sense .... hope you keep this amp it makes you shine
@markpenniall71962 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, you've inspired me to give one of these a go👍
@vinoveritas49212 жыл бұрын
Good sounding and very good playing buddy, specialy your vibrato, very expressive. Good choice, the ES335. I did not hit the "like" button" because it was set on "666" and I did not want to change this number 😄
@mlambrechts1 Жыл бұрын
I think the difference in tone does not have much to do with the day of the week, but more with how hot the valves are.
@carrielittlecplaster16204 жыл бұрын
tone is 70pct in the hands and we all know you hv that. I think you should keep this one bro. Ive recently switched to tube amps after 30yrs of playing ss. In fact, i discovered you from ur vid why i prefer ss lol!! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN FEEL AND TONE. told myself for yrs there wasnt. I also got rid of a boss gt8 prosesser and went wit analog pedals. Now i have replaced tubes in a vrate vc50, no bias req. and 3days after i bought a marshall dsl 40c tubes blew!! 2014 model so, to be expected. Had to risk my life biasing it, but hey, all for R&R man!! no looking back for me. Keep that beast dude!!
@malcolmhardwick42583 жыл бұрын
Best amp sound from a Dave Simpson vid !!
@rayjames4334 жыл бұрын
Once again Dave has smashed it brilliant!! Great observation regarding the cover very interesting, the cover is holding the heat in and not working as a heat sink, going to have a look at my ac 15 see if there is a similar temp difference
@philipshaw94852 жыл бұрын
Ive own a jtm 60 stack 4x10 (celestion gold series speakers) bought it in 1996, a very rare rig indeed. it's the dogs bollocks. your model can over heat, the differance is the vent grill on the top. Hot air rises and yours ain't got no vent
@THRILL6064 жыл бұрын
I get major Peter Green vibes from this my dude!
@ezequiel86253 жыл бұрын
beautiful sound, i also have an intact marshall jtm 60 just like that
@jerrycliffort98493 жыл бұрын
I know why you love your guitars specialy the strat u love what you did whit your telecaster and the white jaguar and lespaul . I hope too see you live on stage or festival in holland thax dave again you amase me rock on peter green most have love your playin style stay healty greeting Jerry from the nederlands
@alexbozas8873 жыл бұрын
Just awesome playing...dave thru any amp great...dave on a 335 and a marshall is fabtastic.
@johnnorth93554 жыл бұрын
Marshallmallow sticky goodness with a topping of 335.Does it get any better ? Oh yes it does and all comes to those who wait :).
@popopipi58394 жыл бұрын
Love the strat sound
@bumblefritz4 жыл бұрын
I'm diggin' the Predator shirt!
@RockyFranklin4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the help in the guitar tone world .Have you ever checked out a AC 10 C1 bought one a couple months ago and it sounds great ,but I still like my Katana 50 for playing on the fly.Started building guitars and pedals since I found your channel.And also a special thank for helping me unlock the neck a was stuck in traffic at the seventh fret for 20 plus years .Love your channel 100k will come soon
@sonnygutierrez3979 Жыл бұрын
I know this post was old but I am wondering if you can share with me this information as to unlock the fretboard? Thanks
@RockyFranklin Жыл бұрын
@@sonnygutierrez3979 Search Dave Simpson unlocking the neck
@rafraff74264 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Your tone is great! This amp valorizes you playng, much better then mg, i think!
@garythecrow3935 Жыл бұрын
Right on !!!
@derekjohnson57204 жыл бұрын
You truly are amazeballs!
@calebtylershepherd214 жыл бұрын
Amp sounds so great! I get it though. Not nearly as reliable or consistent. There we’re so many awesome riffs in this one. Especially, loved the Tele and Jaguar stuff. Phew, swear you just keep getting better, and better all the time. Amazing playing! At least if at any time the amp should break down on you at least you know you’re covered with a bunch of amazing solid states to play through till it’s feasible to get it fixed. So that’s always some reassurance. It’s a nice piece to add to your arsenal.
@marianosaab26944 жыл бұрын
60k Dave! Well done buddy!
@peterschmidt99424 жыл бұрын
If you look back at Marshall's history, I reckon you could find every one of their amps get a bad rap by some people in one form or another. At the end of the day, they all sound like Marshall's - quirks and all. That's why we love 'em. I've got a TLS60 combo with blue tolex and the goldy sort of grill cloth - I love it. But I would change out those EL34's Dave. That's the one thing that really wears in most Marshall's if you like output power tube distortion. And you're right, they can sound slightly different on different days. I'm sure it's got to do with Voltage fluctuations and temperature. But I don't find it that drastic.
@voxpathfinder15r4 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you invest in a power line conditioner and perhaps a Variac to tweak the voltage into the amp. Solid state is more consistent because the power transformer is dropping mains voltage and large swings in mains voltage yields tiny changes in secondary supply voltage to the circuit. Tube amps go in the opposite direction. Invest a little into conditioning the line voltage and you will be amazed at the consistency
@MultiCugel4 жыл бұрын
Glad you had such a great time playing the amp! :)
@vincit18134 жыл бұрын
Great intro, that combo is sweet, blues,..... suits you sir.....
@tomdameek4 жыл бұрын
That Amp really does Rock Dave. Maybe if you get new tubes it would stabilise also it may make a great conversion to amp head project. I feel the clean is perhaps missing a depth that the MGs seem to have, but that could be down to the single speaker V the Marshal cab thing. Brilliant playing as ever Dave 👍😊👍😊
@hrstrat574 жыл бұрын
Yep the ol wobbly swiveling fan trick...it works and goofy cage bye bye. Monster tones well played.
@rgbplumbinghilton4 жыл бұрын
I owned a 1x15 version of this amp. It sounded great at any level. Over heating issues gave them a bad name and the QC was not very good. Shame as you can hear here they are a great blues amp.
@englandsdreamin1004 жыл бұрын
yep,same here ,best sounding amp i ever had .... but repair tech had it more than me ......
@ChiefMiddleFinger2 жыл бұрын
You made that JTM talk and cry !!! Notes between the notes !!!!
@daniellaudman8580 Жыл бұрын
One issue with these amps is the way they mounted the power tube right under the PCB causing possible problems with overheating . I happen to like these amps except for that issue