Don't buy these 3 Marshall amps | Marshall amp review

[@Heddo2200]

I just bought a DSL40CR and I’m shocked by how great this amp sounds. I’m completely satisfied.

[@adamwatson6916]

I have had a DSl 40CR since mid 2019 and I love it . 5 years and zero issues or complaints other than not liking the stock V type speaker which didn't matter because I bought specifically to run though extension cabs because it's doesn't come as a head but eventually I heard the DSL 40C which had a creamback M65 in it and was blown away so I ordered one and put it in my 40CR and was extremely impressed with how much bettet it sounded . I don't normally like open back combos on their own but with the Creamback M I actually use the combo on its own quite frequently. I still prefer it with a closed back 1 by 12 or 2 by 12 but using the 40CR on its own for a different flavor is a nice option to have. The classic Gain Channel cranked in crunch mode does a very usable classic Marhsall open back combo tone

[@before120]

sound went kaput in my beat around dsl 40. sucks. It was ok when it worked.

[@kennethc2466]

@@before120 ..best technical explanation ever, in perfect English. You should be awarded a Shakespearian gold metal, for that fine work of literature...puttz.

[@SugarMapleForge]

I bought a dsl20hr and am running it through a Hughes and kettner cab with a vintage 30 (which everyone says sounds like crap) I love it. The speaker definitely had to break in first but now I'm getting some killer tones out of it.

[@strifexiii9557]

Quick question. I just bought a DSL40CR, and while the channel buttons and master volume buttons give a bit of resistance and have a 'click' when you push them in, the FX loop button does not. The button works, but there's no resistance or click when you push it. Does your amp do this? 🤔​@@adamwatson6916

[@georgeallen6312]

Actually you can get the power amp to push on a plexi, get an attenuator

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

it will shorten tube life

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@GuitarsAndSynths So does cranking it normally, but if you have a NMV Marshall, your options are crank it, or deal with a dull/thin clean tone.

[@MrBlackHimself]

@@GuitarsAndSynths WELL THEN GET U A METALZ0NE WITH A SHITTY S0LIDSTATE C0MB0...KIDDING, GET U A MARSHALL DSL1 HEAD!

[@scottyhayes3448]

@@GuitarsAndSynths so???

[@cliffords2315]

people bash Marshall amps and buy Marshall Clones i find that hilarious

[@ibrajimenez2098]

Yes. Friedman all the way baby

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@ibrajimenez2098 because Friedman fixed the issues on Marshall amps and made in USA and more player friendly studio features.

[@Safetysealed]

Well, yeah. Thats generally what will happen when a company sells out to crappy new owners who cut corners and worsen products... Would-be customers will look to other companies who can still make high quality version of the products they want. Only boomers would make a brand their personality to the point that they'll blindly stick with them after a buyout by crappy new owners, which produces inferior products from a team that Includes none of the talent or expertise that had nothing to do with the product he enjoyed in the first place. It's just dumb. Marshall is now owned by a headphone company, and the staff running it now came from sports clothing and footwear compoanies. no joke. They've repeatedly shown that the know nothing about guitars, and the old marshall design and tech team are looong gone since the buyout. Marshalls after from the last few years are mostly cheap chinese made crap, and are becoming prone to dveloping faults, because they're just not well made. Why else do you think they're losing their endorsees? After 40 years of endorsements, Slash jumped ship to magnatone. SLASH FFS... Jim Marshall will be spinning in his grave.

[@MadJackChurchill1312]

Nothing wrong with Chinese made. Most stuff is made in China and is absolute quality. Wang amplifiers for instance. The bill of Materials and cutting corners is the main issue.

[@Safetysealed]

@@MadJackChurchill1312 I strongly disagree that most stuff made in China is great quality. Chinese made stuff CAN be high quality, but the vast majority of it isn't. Most western companies don't make stuff there because the high quality of manufacturing. They make stuff there specifically for the purpose of cutting corners, prioritising speed, and building on a 'cost over quality' basis. Gear manufactured in the US UK and EU for example have higher material and labour costs associated, and companies know that quality standards have to be higher to justify the higher price to the consumer. While that's not a hard and fast rule, it is the case way more often than it isn't.

[@Adam-cc4wb]

I own a marshall dsl20hr tube head and personally i can tell you that its one of the best amps ive ever tried it gives great tones for many styles especially if youre a more metal guitar player its a GREAT AMP that can give great tones for various types of metal genres all in all its a great budget amp that can rival some of the more famous amps.

[@dugganclhallrentals2089]

I have the same one. It sounds incredible on the Classic Gain Channel wit Boss SD-1, SD-2 and OD-2 (Turbo). Only other amp I'd like yet is the 2525H, but DSL20H I will never part with.

[@alvagoldbook2]

The new DSL’s are FAR BETTER MADE than the JCM2000’s. I’m an amp tech. The JCM2000’s were one of the worst Marshalls ever made. A nightmare to service, run away bias drift issues due to crap circuit boards. The new DSL’s are VERY well made for the price point and a dream to service. They’re the most serviceable amps Marshall has made since the JCM800’s.

[@barano9729]

Ya terrible amp design. The jcm 2000 dsl designer fell short for sure tone wise. Good amp though, gets the job done when that’s all you got.

[@lrwarchild]

I fixed my bias drift, and my 2000 is my go to for studio tracking.

[@ajlsrv5490]

They sound great. Despite their ‘issues’, they continue to be the primary backline amp at rock shows. Ask Nuno.

[@barano9729]

@@ajlsrv5490 Nuno could plug into a ham sandwich and it would sound amazing.

[@ajlsrv5490]

@@barano9729 I don’t know about that, but I do know he could play any amp in the world and chooses a JCM2000. He is not unique in that regard either.

[@RobStrings]

I think home/bedroom players who love tube amps and are in the know, have an attenuator. The whole “too loud for home use” thing is really not a thing once you get one. Which again, tube lovers already probably have. I love the studio line from Marshall. I own all 4 and keep the power tubes saturated and the volume down. Life’s good.

[@adamwatson6916]

Exactly. Any home player with even the most basic tube amp knowledge base is either going to buy an attenuator or they will buy a tube amp more suitable for home use . If you buy an NMV single channel vintage/plexi type amp you will get an attenuator or you will buy a dual channel Lower wattage master volume amp . I have no issues using my DSL 40 CR at home without an attenuator. Between the master volumes and the lower wattage settings i have no issues and the tone is great although I do plan on getting an attenuator soon because i want to add a Marshall 1987 to the lineup .

[@leedemkiw.2894]

@@RobStrings I use a jvm 1c at home and it's mental.

[@ocelotl23]

Marshalls were not meant to be played at bedroom levels to begin with, gerting a marshall to play at home you have to buy a good attenuator, that is the price you have to pay to get a plexi sounds at bedroom levels, the new 20w amps says it all in the name "studio" vintage. my sv20 sounds glorious at home with my rivera rock crusher attenuator, i dont feel the need to own another amp.

[@adamwatson6916]

That may be true for vintage Marshall's but there are modern Marshall's that sound great for bedroom playing . Anything 50 watts or Lower can sound great at home if they have a decent master volume. The DSls also have power scaling so they can work for bedroom playing. I use a DSL 40CR ran through a 2 by 12 in my bedroom/living room/Kitchen and can get very nice saturated tones . The right tool for the right job used in the right way can solve almost all these issues

[@guitarlair]

This guy is shitting out of his mouth, the SV20 is Marshall's best 20w amp.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@ocelotl23 they should remake those 1w anniversary amps they did … even they were loud for home use, but sounded so good!

[@FuzzPoet]

EXACTLY!!!!

[@Doughnut3340]

You lost everyone at the DSL comment. Just stop.

[@ParanormalArson]

Bingo. I just played a DSL at the music store the other day when I was shopping for something else. Now I'm strongly considering buying one. It sounded great and the price tag didn't make my blood pressure skyrocket.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

Yeah, trying to diss the DSL lines is pure snobbery. I have a Marshall Vintage Modern 2266C and a Ceriatone JTM45 clone, both damn good amps and I love the sounds I can get from them. However, my V1 tube swapped DSL15 arguably has more tonal variety, and it’s smaller and quieter, so it gets played the most. They aren’t perfect and they aren’t the best sounding amps Marshall ever put out, but they’re very good at what they do, and especially for the price.

[@MrBlackHimself]

@@ParanormalArson I HAVE A DSL1 TUBE HEAD WITH MARSHALL 1X10 ZAKKWYLDE CABS AND CHANGED JUNK SPEAKERS T0 GREENBACK 10 AND CELESTI0N VINTAGE10. ITS KILLER LIL MINISTACK! I

[@rob7563]

DSL15 combo owner here....the stock speaker is a bit sucky/thin, I have mine running into an external 15" HH speaker (from the 70s)...it's killer.

[@stricknine8623]

​@@watersnortmoment3734The best Marshall in my opinion, for those who love the old-school JTM 45 type of circuit, is the Origin 20 It does the job very well and it works absolutely perfect with your favorite OD pedal. I recommend the Friedman Smallbox OD to run with the Origin......they become one, and it is absolutely 💯% awesome !

[@robertcarey3383]

When they asked Bonamassa about using dsl2000's he said he used them because the sound was just as good as his vintage Marshalls.......but what does he know.

[@joeyjooones]

Yep! I‘d love to have one right next to my jubilee and see how close they can get!

[@CFBPO]

just pentatonic scales mostly

[@bakkels]

@@CFBPO 😆

[@nehmeayoub2305]

The problem is that anybody can post and opine about anything

[@castleanthrax1833]

The good thing is that you don't have to agree with them. "Tone" is a subjective thing. ✌️🇦🇺

[@scoobydoo936]

That actually not a problem if you don't offend anyone and no one needs to agree. It's just your personal opinion maaan! 😄

[@cliffords2315]

Yep i call them Amp Trolls

[@vivien1252]

he's got a point though, especially with the sv20h...

[@gatormcklusky5850]

@@castleanthrax1833 no, he's right a Marshall needs to be turned up to get that tone, There's nothing subjective about this , this is proven fact. all those great jams using Marshall weren't played @1 on the volume scale, All those great Hendrix tunes in which he used a Marshall would have been crap at low volume. sorry.

[@jameskaihatu6209]

Your opinion is certainly that, of course. I have a DSL40CR that I like a lot. The Psionic Audio channel rated it over Fenders because of the build quality, with fewer if any planned obsolescence components like resistors up against the PCB. I typically use pedals into the clean channel and it does great. It does get annoying when channels slam some of a manufacturer's budget line. I'm not a pro but I have been playing for a long long time, and when I started playing most copy guitars didn't have brand names because they were trash. However, it was all I could afford. Now cheap gear has gotten a lot better, to where even Mike Rutherford plays a Squier and Brian Aubert prefers Epiphone. A lot of this starts to sound like gatekeeping. Also, if you have a bio page listing recorded output, or tours played, I'd love to see it.

[@nomadicexplorers]

I use the sv20 with a rock crusher attenuator and it’s amazing.

[@ocelotl23]

Same here, sounds fantastic

[@MrTelekes]

Are the attenuators hard on the amp?

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@MrTelekes The attenuator acts as a load box/wattage sucking speaker (not very technical terms, but you get the point), it doesn’t really effect anything inside the amp, only the signal going out of the amp. The only thing that’s at risk would be the tubes, since you can push their output beyond what you’d normally get away with. Basically, the damage is coming from turning the amp up, the same damage would happen at the same settings otherwise. The attenuator itself isn’t causing any damage. Summary: The attenuator itself causes no damage, it’s the fact that you’re turning up the amp, thus increasing the load for the tubes to handle.

[@Ari_Calamari]

I honestly think the newest dsl100h and the dsl20hr are the best sounding amps Marshall has made in a long while. And the quality is pretty good for the price. So I pretty harshly disagree with you on that one. The original Jubilees do sound great tho.

[@BB-ft6nd]

And yet numpties are dumping thousands on amps that sound worse.

[@PunishedBrak]

​@@BB-ft6ndDSL 100 HR gen3, playing around with it recently, despite the materials used in the construction outside the powerboard, it's beastly for its price, similar to the Blackstar stage 100 mkIII

[@axeman10001]

DSL Series 100 watts are used by Gary Holt when he plays with Slayer. So yeah some big names do use them

[@PressuredSpeechBand]

Just got the Origin 50 for the studio. Hope to get a decent tone without going down to the Origin 20. I'll probably buy both cause the 20 fits better on a 2x12 cab!

[@Fernando-ry5qt]

I had the Origin 20, just make sure to use both, power and preamp gain, preamp gain alone gets too compressed too quickly. Try setting the gain at 3, 4 max, then move onto the master and turn it up until you start hearing it overdrive (you will probably need to use the power cut or will be way too loud for most use cases), after you get a slight overdrive on the master volume, move onto the drive and adjust if up slowly to get the amount of compression you want. You will VERY likely have the treble at 0 and use the presence as you high control btw, those amps are really harsh otherwise.

[@michaellfbvr]

I have the jvm 410h. Yes it's expensive and way more wattage than I'll ever need, but the master volume allows me to get bedroom volume and the sound is what we all dream off. I have a class 5 for sale

[@joeyjooones]

JVM is an all time great Marshall.

[@abbagil]

Expensive? I bought mine for $1700 in 2012.

[@Spaceraypro]

Yeah! I have the JVM 410c and with its master volume it sounds really great at bedroom levels

[@msaintpc]

@@abbagil $1700 in 2012 money was fairly expensive.

[@jeremysamuelson9059]

Same! I love my JVM 410H. I run it into a “mini full stack” 1936 Vintage (top) and 1936 Lead (bottom). I have a lot of modern and vintage amps, and the Marshall is still my go to.

[@richardpierce7819]

Cant say I've ever heard a guitar player say " oh no my amps to loud." It just dont happen.

[@johnb4024]

Probably the single most common complaint. Doesn't breathe till it's cooking. Not everyone has the ability to make 125db

[@peteyoung7665]

Especially 5 watts..ha.What a joke.Go to a Ted Nugent gig.4 100 watt Fender Dual Showmen at full blast.Those were the days.Complaining about 5 watts being to loud.Don't be silly!

[@timorean320]

This 1 goes to 11 is what we want

[@robertcarey3383]

I have a 100-watt Marshall super lead sitting in the garage that hasn't been played 5 minuets in the last 10 years because it is just too loud. So now it just happened.

[@TheRodge2112]

As a perennial bedroom/basement guitarist, this is an excellent guide. I have a couple 5 watt tube amps and they are all way too loud to crank and play at home without pissing off the fam. Alternatively, you can get an attenuator, but I've found that most attenuators do roll off some high end.

[@joeyjooones]

Attenuators sometimes alter the sound quite heavily.

[@TheRodge2112]

@@joeyjooones Totally agree. I've never used the fancier ones, but the ones I've tried definitely blanket the tone. Ox Box and the Boss Katana TAE may be better.

[@TheRodge2112]

@@joeyjooones Yep. Honestly, for quiet playing, a modeler is key. I have the UA Lion '68 and it's outstanding.

[@taz4965]

Just wondering how many of the problems you describe would be cured with a power attenuator?

[@OneHandleToHandleThemAll]

All of them.

[@rorobishop9661]

@@OneHandleToHandleThemAll depends if you buy a cheap one it may sound tinny and boxy, but a nice one will sound great

[@NoCoverCharge]

I have a 1985 jcm800 50w non master with a 4x12 …and I gig it all the time ! After playing that you just can’t get used to other small amps …helps that I mostly play punk music

[@joeyjooones]

Totally agree. Especially if you have a good sounding 800, what else do you really need 🙃

[@Deeznutseighthundredthirty]

Hey man, fellow punk musician here. Is there a cheaper Marshall amp that will get me that jcm tone or do you know of any jcm clones that will? Would love to have a jcm but it’s pretty pricey. Was thinking about the dsl 20

[@kazkylheku1221]

1:27 Sorry, that's not how you're going to convince me. LOL!

[@nicholasguitars5527]

dont know anyone that iused the JCM 2000 DSL??? there was this guy from Ireland...Gary Moore..he was pretty good on the guitar, well he used them a LOT. Ohhh..and that Jeff Beck guy..he was pretty good. Research is your friend.

[@mattchurchill]

Currently Nuno's amp of choice too.

[@joeyjooones]

Really? Good to know!

[@barano9729]

If you could get Marshall JCM 2000 dsl for free like Gary did you’d use them too. Gary was an amazing player he could plug into a cheeseburger and it was sound incredible. As for Nuno, seems like he’s on a budget, an amazing player nevertheless. Love both of them.

[@nicholasguitars5527]

@@barano9729 Eh? on a budget you don't think any amp company would jump at a chance to have Nuno play their stuff?? as for Gary, he could have used ANYTHING Marshall made (as could Jeff), he picked the DSL, in fact after he tried Soldano for a brief time, he went back to them and was ready to take them back out on a rock tour shortly before he passed. The statement in this video is wrong, pure and simple

[@castleanthrax1833]

@barano9729. First Nuno with a "ham sandwich," and now it's Gary Moore with a "cheeseburger"? What's with you having people playing their lunch? I think it's time for you to pick a different type of comparison... because the current ones aren't working.

[@paulkreeft2091]

I’ve owned a 1987x 50 watt plexi for many years back in the 90s and I can get my dsl 40c to sound very close at low volume on lead 1. The made in Vietnams got nothing to do with it they’re great amps if you know how to dial them in. People listen with their wallets not their ears!!

[@BB-ft6nd]

Only an idiot pays thousands of dollars more for a made-in-the-UK sticker. I'm buying the DSL100HR because it's fantastic...

[@bysykler4959]

Doesn’t adding a power attenuator resolve the volume issue for the SV20H? I’m thinking of the REACTIVE LOAD IR, which also allows you to wear headphones!😊 I cannot tell you how much my wife likes me playing into headphones.

[@SoloSi2024]

With the JCM 2000's, I think it's now become like a product recall. To summarise, if yours has the ISS45 board, it may be prone to bias drift etc. Marshall produced a new board, The ISS20. Seems like a faff, but they're great sounding amps.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

The problem as you mention with Marshall amps is that they were meant for playing large venues like stadiums cranked at max volume to sound decent.

[@BB-ft6nd]

We have attenuators these days. I can dial in a tone and play for hours with headphones on.

[@matsandersson8857]

Joe Bonamassa uses the JCM 2000 DSL’s! I’ve had a couple of JCM 2000 DSL’s and I think they sound very fizzy no matter how you set the eq. Also it’s hard to make the channels match with just a deep switch. The new DSL (from 2018) sounds way better. Less fizz and a resonance control instead of only a deep switch. Also on the 40W combo and the 100W head you get two switchable master volumes.

[@HulkSmash563]

What about the DSL 40C? That’s a great sounding amp!

[@ro307805]

Wonder if he’s a Gibson basher too?

[@MrDalegray]

I sure as hell don't want my Marshall to sound like that opening riff. Sounded like shit.

[@PressuredSpeechBand]

Must be your speakers. Sounded good on a pair of studio monitors.

[@donniejean]

Yeah I thought it was a joke lol. Like an old Line 6 alien setting.

[@MrDalegray]

@@PressuredSpeechBand Must be,

[@roeyaus]

I have a 1998 JCM2000 DSL40 . Around 5 years after buying, the tube sockets started melting into the board and they all had to be replaced.

[@jordanpratt3821]

You said not to buy the sv20 because its to loud for home use. What about gigging??

[@joeyjooones]

Totally fine for that! Sound is good!

[@jordanpratt3821]

@@joeyjooones rite on

[@watersnortmoment3734]

Just don't buy it new, it simply isn't worth what they charge in the US. You can get a plexi clone with a built in master volume for about the same price from Ceriatone.

[@adamswanson8216]

Did you ever think about purchasing an attenuator I can see it’s been mentioned in the comments quite a bit also there’s a few cap changes you can make on any of these studio models. I happened on all four of them currently and honestly, I’ve enjoyed all four of them and I get as good as sounds as what you recorded there at the beginning maybe after 37 years of playing guitar and teaching lessons and a number of years of getting to the point where I could teach the lessons learning myself as learning has been a lifelong experience. I truly am blown away by your comments number one I’ve already mentioned the attenuator but number two to get on here and tell people that amplifiers are no good and that they’re going to be dissatisfied who died and made you king i’m not disagreeing with all of your opinions, but truly, why don’t you give people answers and solutions instead of problems and truly again, I would love to know what besides this KZbin channel and a few guitar licks qualifies you to tell anybody anything you’re no man and you’re not helping anybody you’re tearing people down on channels that I listen to and the people I know listen to they want positive good information. They don’t want somebody being negative spoken and rude and that’s about all you’ve done so far and not impressed me at all. You’re the not Marshall not Friedman and if you’d ever used the jubilee with the master volume, you don’t even have to use an attenuator to get Bedroom tones with high gain sounds truly man I wonder how much you really have used these amplifiers or any of the other modern convenience is known to guitar players today or for the last 20 years power soaks have been around for much longer than that even really man truly.

[@stricknine8623]

The SV20 does exactly what its supposed to do. It is a plexi and behaves like a plexi, and it does so, at a much lower volume than the 50w and 100w plexis. It's still very loud but much more managable.

[@MykEviiL]

Silver Jubilee combo has speaker outs, so you can use cabs with it.

[@jasonsapp792]

The DSL HR line is pretty damn good ... Like your opinion of the Silver Jubilee, I think the new DSL line is a great amp line .... I have let two Friedman amps go because the DSL 's can do what the Friedman can do and more but the Friedman couldn't keep up with the Marshall... Is that statement gonna catch people wrong? I'm sure it will

[@markbiggs1961]

Hey Joe i had a gang of amps over the years, i still have some but i prefer the marshall jcm 800, the one i have is promlematic, i believe its an old tube socket. it works good then fades to nothing. i paid 250.00 to have it repaired but again got ripped off and its the same. i have a fender twin that for me is useless but i could use it if i wanted to its up for sale, i have a junk marshall twin that is mg 250 dfx and it is junk, it hums and makes way too much noise that sounds like a bad cord or other crap. i'm so sick of buying junk, i tried to get expencive and cheap, they all die out, i had two marshall super duel lead 100 wat that i sold they were junk at 1700.00 each, the bogner idea sounds good but i was leaning toward mesa or 5150, am i gonna be making grave mistakes? buying used is ok if its from a place that takes returns that is close. nothing is safe on used, it can be a dud. i have 2 4x12 marshal cab for the basement just need a good head to power them, should i go 50 or 100 wat?

[@gregrogers2611]

You don’t have to “dime” the SV20. I do normal on about 6 and bright at about 7 for great AC/DC type tone. And I play it at home with a Weber Mass knocking off a couple db but still pretty loud. Definitely too loud for an apartment, but in that case just turn the Weber Mass down.

[@KySlowIsSmoothSmoothisFast]

I love the dsl 20 and I use the origin 50 and peavey 5150 together blended

[@caopgtr]

I use sv20 with ironman attenuator or suhr reactive load ir , volume on 10 , playing at home every mid night.

[@66falcon99]

A 5 watt amp is usually too loud for home use. Especially, Marshall. The closest thing is the Marshall 1974x, but louder than you think. Best home/practice Marshall amp? SL5 "Slash" of Guns n Roses, 1x12 combo. It has a 1 watt setting, and for a combo, has a closed back and a 12" speaker. So, it gets the Marshall tone pretty well at reasonable volume levels. Better than any other small combo. Yes, it was limited edition with only about 1,000 sold in the USA. And, they are getting hard to find, and the prices are climbing. But, it's perfect for home and even small gigs.

[@dugganclhallrentals2089]

Honestly, the DSL 20 Head is good sounding head. It takes pedals very well, I've run a lot of classic vintage Boss and higher end boutique pedals through the Classic Gain Channel, and I can get a solid JCM800/Silver Jubilee tone. However, the Ultra Gain Channel is very compressed sounding and is only suitable for modern rock/metal. Take a look at Ola Englund's review, the amp has some serious low end on the Ultra gain. But it will depend on your cabinet. I've run the DSL 20H through a large full sized cab, 2x12 and a 1x12 PRS MT15; I get great tones out the head with both passive and active pickups.

[@mr.k905]

Silber Jubilee? I thought they're called Silver Jubilee, no?

[@wiseguysnyc8311]

@joeyjooones What’s your opinion on the 1987 2553 3/4 stack? And would you change to larger cabinets?

[@ranius7388]

Tube amps can generate easily 85-100db in 1w rms cranked from 12" speaker. You need 0.5w- 0.01w attenuation or passive volume in fx loop for home use

[@yy_guitar7510]

What about 1987 Silver Jubilee 2554, 2558?

[@MrJackal43]

It’s 2553, I own one… love it. Way better than my Mesa Boogie Mark V, which is also a great amp.

[@JohnBenoit46290]

JCM 2000’s are secret gems, great video awesome playing!

[@GuyNarnarian]

UA Lion through a power amp or another active sound source seems like a good way to go if you don't want a tube Marshall, and at an attainable price.

[@MRxr400]

i run a captor x as a power soak, and this on top of a plexi would create a very usable amp. however, the general build quality of these 20W marshall are ordinary.

[@joeyjooones]

Agree! A company which gets only about 5% of their revenue from amps will probably not focus on building first class units anymore.

[@deshawn4077]

Actually the Studio amps are good, even watched a show were Dave Friedman said they are good amps. And I play one at home, just like hotrods are loud, any non master volume amp and some master volume amps are loud. Do what other people do, buy some sort attenuator . Use a boost pedal to hit the amp and push it into drive some, etc. I play mine at home without a attenuator now and low volume and it sounds good.

[@MrAbelone]

I’m a Marshall guy. Had all the boutique stuff and for my original nothing beats the TCL100. But for home rig I wanted to set up a versatile board, bought a Studio 20 hand wired “plexi” style combo. Thought maybe I got a dud, it’s so harsh and sounds like the speaker is cracking when cranked. BTW an amp attenuator solves the “load” so don’t let that scare you for buying an amp that needs to cool. Just soak the power and I think it gives a little more brown, akin to classic channel strip.

[@vladzubac5360]

For the first Marshall - the SV20 - just buy a JHS drive Angry Charlie, JHS AT+, Friedman OD type pedal and put it into the "bass channel" - set the amp clean on 1-2 on the volume and you will have a very very very good Marshall sound. Juicy, liquiddy everything you would want.

[@benderdiver]

I've been trying the new fenders,ive had all the old ones super reverb Bassman twins, but that was 30 years ago the new ones sound and feel crap,so I got a peavy bandit for £45. its ok I'm now looking at hand wired Marshalls ,thanks for video, hay ,your playing that guitar the wrong way round,[or does it sound better than way] what do you think of the 18 w. combo,

[@trevorgwelch7412]

I had a Marshal JMD:1 ... 100 watt half stack - Super Amazing

[@henryhester1897]

I’ve got a nice Valvestate 8080 and after a tune/clean job ($150), I’m not that happy with the weight and limited range. I’m more of a Fender 65 DSP guy with switchable tone and that beautiful choir, reverb and vibrato

[@OneHandleToHandleThemAll]

If Marshall had added usable power scaling or Captor X like circuitry to SV20h, it would be a stellar amp. At the moment it's still good IF you have an attenuator.

[@mantashaft]

I haven't had any issues with the fx loop on my sv20 just running time based FX etc. Trust me, despiste my love of the amp, there are ia few issues I have with it... But there are times when everything melds and I'm grateful (no surprise there) that I have it. There is a chance that the fact I have a '79 jmp 50W to turn to when I choose, I'm less critical. I do really love its cleans and light dirt. But I believe it's a very useful amp and I'm glad I have it.

[@jannatinkarlen8702]

I would say to avoid the original jcm 2000, it has history of bias issue causing redplating due to the PCB becoming conductive over time. Sooner or later you have to replace the main board requiring more expensive repair

[@jerrywatt6813]

I have an early jcm 2000 it'was my road dog never let me down it was serviced every 3 months I'm retired now but it still is on of my favorite marshalls from my collection from plxi 1968 50w to 900 800 etc it still has all the original caps I guess I got a good one !!

[@TheButlerMK]

I have a DSL5CR which I put a G10 Greenback in and it sounds great for classic rock. Effects loop is handy, reverb isn't terrible, and it's just a great all-round practice amp

[@dougalmather6958]

Love the wah tone… what’s the pedal?

[@yaniv-nos-tubes]

the jtm 20 is great for home use, comes stock with the creamback m 65 speaker very soft and mellow if you want more gain the friedman little sister is great.

[@joshcoxmusic]

I just have a simple Marshall mg100hcfx head and i swear it's so much better than people give it credit for. I've had it next to expensive amps and i still just love it.

[@scoobydoo936]

I bought the SV20h and cab and its true its incredibly loud for 20 Watts. I also got me, or better my wife :-) a Tone King mini attenuator (max.30W and the only attenuator that i know of beside Freyettes that doesn't impact the sound) and its glorious. Lower the Volume on you guitar knob and it beautifully cleans up without losing much of loudness or sounding thin. If you want to get into heavier territory hit it with an OD-3 (Vol max, Drive at 1-2) and you get that juicy hard rock Marshall sound. I don't know if i will keep it forever, because I'm more a Fender Blackface guy but I'm having a hell lot of fun with that thing right now. I've also spent tons of money on modelers, plugins and profilers and was always disappointed but also always wanted to have a real Plexi. However, its out of the question, it just doesn't make any sense to me to own something more powerful than 30 Watt these days and that SV20 thing comes darn close imo.

[@tng2403]

Is the UA ox box a good attenuator?

[@sinistar426]

Attenuators are made for a reason. You can push the amp to full volume to get the power section up to where it needs to be to get that classic plexi "or whatever" tone from the amp, without shattering the windows or landing in the dawg house.

[@davidmorgan6000]

I know a gigging pro who uses two TSL100s, and they sound incredible. And not too expensive on the used market . Just a thought, my two cents.

[@pixelpop9365]

The beauty of the JCM2000 series was that the sound was CONSISTANT, you could always dial in the exact sound no matter where you played and this was important if you were a recording artist trying to recreate your studio sound or just gigged a lot from 100 seat bars to concert halls.

[@vadenk4433]

If it wasn’t catching on fire from run away bias due to their faulty PCB’s

[@minimini4276]

2 months ago you loved the Jubilee

[@sleepy22602]

Have Dsl 100 hr paired with Marshall 1960 lead cab sounds great

[@CRYSTALSHIPSS]

does it chug

[@BB-ft6nd]

I'm just buying a DSL100HR because it sounds great, and fits my budget, the MX412 cab is excellent and I have a Two Notes - Captor X already. I can drop it 38db.

[@davidfaustino4476]

Yeah. I own a Boss Waza TAE. Volume or tone is never an issue.

[@UltraNemesis6669]

I'm so f'ing happy that I went for the Marshall 2525H with a 2x12 cab instead of the 2525C. The funny thing is that I originally ordered the 2525C last year but it was back ordered for about 6 months. I finally decided to hell with it and spent the xtra grand to get the head and the cab and just like the video describes, it has more body. NO REGRETS!

[@EverettVernon72]

You can turn the fx loop off on the studio classic

[@Bluesbreaker-uf8ti]

I recently tried using volume pedal in effects loop of SV20 and I gotta say, I think the "magic of the tone is overdriving the power stage" is a myth. The crunch still sounds killer at the low range of the volume pedal with the volume on amp around 6. Tone of the gain seems quite similar to when I floor volume pedal.

[@szpackyu]

I have jubilee combo and DSL5 combo, both sound great.

[@CGFun82]

Just match the head with the right speaker and you are good. Some heads sounds better with celestion greenbacks than v30 or g12t75. Also try Eminence since they are darker sounding and fits a bright preamp like Marshall. Dont use bright speakers with bright sounding preamp. More boost? Just get a maxon od808 or compressor and increase input gain. The power stage on most Marshalls sounds good. Different tastes and opinions will always be there but there are ways to improve the sound.

[@joeyjooones]

well said!

[@Alexhangman]

I have Slash Jubilee 2555SL, JCM800 2203 and 2525H. 2525H is amazing amp even though I have two 100W amps and one of them is 2555SL. 2525H with master volume on 5-6 have big ball into 4x12 1960BX with Greenbacks.

[@markjames1713]

i have to be honest the only couple of marshalls ive ever really liked playing through is a jvm or a valvestate however im not into vintage or classic tones at all so that might be the reason why lol i find the jvm sounds fine at bedroom volumes [through 2 1960 cabs lol] but i avoid power amp breakup as much as i physically can same with cone breakup I'm purely getting my drive from the preamp but its still interesting to see what guys with a totally different tone goal are doing

[@davidhayter7954]

What do you think about the JVM205 or JVM410

[@usablefiber]

Can you recommend the best speakers to put in a 4 x 12 or 2 x 12 to pair with a 100W silver jubilee head?

[@ChrisHariis]

Cream backs, sound much better than vintage 30 and they are just a sweeter sounding V30

[@usablefiber]

@@ChrisHariis thank you!

[@brunoornelas7240]

Dude i got a sv20h, its 800€ in Europe. And you need an attenuator of course... torpedo captor 8 is enough. Sounds amazing at home xD another thing, you need a greenback with it or a cream, the v30 has too much high end.

[@minimini4276]

lynch mod put one of those in the plexi

[@enboheme]

Hey Joey! Really cool channel, love your playing. I am myself addicted to Telecaster as well. I’m considering getting a 20w Marshall origin head. Have you any thought on this one? Keep on rocking!

[@joeyjooones]

Never played it for longer than 5 mins so I can’t really judge!

[@enboheme]

@@joeyjooones thanks for answering Joey, if by any chance you have the opportunity to play it the “proper way”, let me know :) I so much hate testing gear in a store for many reasons… but I might have to do it again

[@compucorder64]

It's true that even on 5 watt mode, the Studio 20 head series is too loud on it's own to use without an attenuator. Even the JTM, which I have. Though, at least with the JTM it's a beautiful clean(ish) tone, which makes the effects loop worthwhile. And on the 5 watt mode you don't have to crank it that much for a for a warm drive to quickly creep in. If you want to keep it clean at higher volumes, you have to start reigning in the bass, or it blows out (though not in an unpleasant way). And unlike the Plexi, it's doesn't sound harsh, even at very loud volume. But, definitely had to go out and buy a Torpedo Captor 16 to use with it. So worth factoring that into purchase cost. The JTM cab is very nice, really well made, good decently big cab, nicely made and very good sounding Creamback speaker that suits the amp. With my Strat, and a Pedal Pawn fuzz, the ST20H and JTM cab sound great ... albeit with a Captor when using it at home.

[@Bikeadelic]

Every review I've seen for the studio amps has been good?

[@larslevinberget9558]

I have played numerous Marshalls, the JMP2203, Lead 12, JCM800 2205 and the amp that sounds the best is in fact the DSL1 combo into my Peavey 412M with stock Celestion V30s :) Yes, at 10 watts it actually does the business, and it does all the others - like a DSL does!

[@bobbiedeleon4845]

I have a JCM 2000 TSL 60 Combo and it's always been awesome, never an issue!

[@JimThompson-i3u]

A friend of mine has a DSL40 and it's a great amp. It's hard to beat for the price. It is a lot of amp. Highly recommended if you're looking for a 112 tube combo amp and you're leaning in the Marshall direction.

[@jaredbeckett]

DSL40 is a great combo. Tip... run master channels hot and dial in the channel volume. Dont use much gain = pure marshall

[@plamenbumbalov6641]

Can't agree with your opinion on the 2525c. I use this amp for about 4-5 years on various and very different stages and at home. For me it's the swiss knife of the gigging musician. Very consistent sound, robust construction, carries very well pedals, good cleans for a Marshall...I love it. I think that the concept with these amps is to be versatile on use. Of course it's not the pro level sound for the big stage and it's not fair to be compared with it's big brothers. Its just the amp that can do the job on almost every situation for the average gigging musician. With good mics and PA almost everything is possible. Personal opinion

[@pjmsuzy]

I call it a fever for small amplifiers, which have a lot of problems and the sound is not as you say It's beefy

[@MatsAcane]

What about a JHS Little black Amp pedal in the FX Loop? You can crank the 20w amp and turn down the volume to bedroom level with this pedal. I own the JVM 205H but like the sound of the JTM more. I'm considering to buy the JTM ST20H. But you're right even 5w is much too loud without any attenuator

[@Corpsegrinder138]

Jvm410h or rockerverb 100 mk3. I’m on the fence.

[@joeyjooones]

Both are kiiiilller.

[@diminishedseventh]

I disagree about the sound of the current model DSL's(HR/CR models). That said their QC and reliability aren't great.

[@craigharrison5406]

I have a DSL 100 HR head and it sounds fantastic. Keeps up with my EVH Stealth and Mesa recto all day. Not to mention it's less than half the price of the other two heads I own. I would go as far to say that amp has the best bang for your buck among all tube heads.

[@mladengrubelic873]

My 2525C at first didn't sound good because of the stock speaker, a Celestion G12M Greenback. I love Greenbacks but not in this amp, unless its a 4x12. Many years ago I bought a pair of 1987 Marshall branded Celestion G12 Vintage, THE original Silver Jubilee speakers. I popped one into my Mini SJ and guesss what? It sounds like the real thing! Also, I use Fryette Power Stations for all my attenuation/boosting up, post-power-amp effects loop, impedance matching and other needs. I can play that little amp anywhere, from bedroom to arena. No problem there. 😎

[@pacooo1992]

I think one should buy the Origin 20h! It does not look exactly like the plexi... but it does have 0.5W mode if you're too lazy to hook a reactive load up!!! Plus, it does the 4 inputs plexi magic with one knob called "tilt"! I know 4 inputs look so cool but... it is cheaper too... no wonder it did not make it to this video!

[@lukaszkrupa9677]

i just bought 2525C and i think it sound decent. i also have bogner 20th anniversary with 4x12 and here the sound is much richer. marshall combo cost me 800 $ refurbished, and bogner with cab was 7000 $. marshall sounds really good to my opinion. and its worth to buy. with bigger cab it will sound better.

[@joeyjooones]

Fair enough! :)

[@shauncrissc]

I had a DSL 40 It sounded really good but I didn't like digital reverb..and i since picked up a DSL 20 . It's the speaker that they are using..iMO they suck..try playing with a external cab and it's like night and day...

[@matsandersson8857]

Why start with playing with a wah wah and say a Marshall should sound something like this?! The newer DSL can sound really good if you just dial it in right. There are some well known issues with the JCM 2000 DSL’s.

[@jerrywatt6813]

Get an old 1970 fender champ use an overdrive change the speaker to a wsg and you're set for home rocking champ is 5 watts of terror with overdrive and the champ is on many metal recordings use just as I described ! I use my marshalls like they are ment to be used freaking Loud !!