Martin Keown CLAPS BACK At Simon Jordan's Criticism Of Joe Hart's Career & Labels It 'UNKIND!' 🔥⚽

After 21 years at professional level, Joe Hart has decided to hang up his gloves at the end of the season. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin Keown have their say!
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[@jordanbyford2693]

So Martin is calling out pep for being right only in the world we live in now do people have a moan about someone for being right 😂

[@stevenhaas9622]

The first two keepers Pep replaced him with were not any better though. He washed both of them out in favor of Ederson.

[@ifeoluwaoparinde74]

​@@stevenhaas9622he replaced him with Bravo, Caballero was at the club before Pep... unless Ederson is the other keeper you're talking about. Pep was right, Joe Hart did nothing after that to prove him wrong.

[@jamesjarrett52]

The game moves on, Hart was unfortunate that the evolution of the game happened in his position in the middle of his career. But I also think his talent took him as far as it could, which was a fair old distance.

[@aqon1770]

Joe Hart can hold his head high, major trophies , contributed massively, dortmund at home, we could of been battered without joe. Tell your grandkids, they will be proud 👊

[@JamieOBrien-bc6ov]

Having Simon and Martin on same time is dangerous- I literally get road rage listening to them and I don’t even drive

[@ClarenceBoddicker87]

Joe Hart's problem was he got mugged off multiple times for England and that sticks. Zlatan overhead, Italy shootout, Iceland embarrassment, 2014 World Cup losses, Scotland freekicks, thats his England legacy. Then add on top of that came the era of keepers passing from the back, ball control, keeper sweepers and none of that was his skill. He would have been alot more suited to an 80s or 90s era, but thats life.

[@2005Kam]

Oh yeah Pep was completely wrong in dropping Joe Hart, Man City really struggled without him and have had a serious goalkeeping issue since he left. Honestly Keown has so many excuses for why English players are just not quite as good as they are hyped to be.

[@Samoni0608]

They definitely had goalkeeping issues after thast until they brought in Ederson or are you not aware of that?

[@Bert-lw1ot]

They did though! Bravo was awful for them. Just say you're anti English next time, it's quicker

[@venericanone]

​@@Bert-lw1ot Why he was out after a year. I don't think they miss hart now. No other team really wanted him either even English clubs and England

[@mikedon5205]

Pep was 100% right Hart always had a mistake in him

[@ggnoree6684]

did you listen? he said pep killed him (made Hart lose confidence) by taking him out of the team. He didn't mention if Pep was wrong or right. But Bravo was, in fact, a bigger issue for them than Hart ever was

[@skylarutd]

I am sure pep is loosing sleep over Joe Hart after winning everything with city

[@andrewwright4195]

He didn't win the champion league

[@tevildo45]

Pep won the champions league next year

[@mintywebb]

Yeah Hart won most of those things...

[@purehyperbole5727]

*losing

[@adikapic7542]

@@andrewwright4195 he won it with tottenham and celtic 🤣🤣🤣

[@Jwjmcc]

Hart was always overrated by the English media same as Pickford is now

[@pavolkrajcovic745]

Remember Ben Alnwick or Richard Wright? I remember english media saying back in the day that they are new greats😂

[@spookyrover9483]

Hary is miles better than pickford

[@mrbille9535]

He's English, that's all you need to know. What about the rest that Pep sold and benched?

[@gonzojones8422]

But Arteta hasn’t killed Ramsdale?

[@usernameheda]

blaming Pep that he wasn't able to perform at the likes of West Ham is dumb af

[@delboy013]

Hart didn't do himself any favours, coming across as a cocky sod imo

[@bushmonster1702]

I’ve always thought that was why Pep wanted rid of him just as much as the ball playing.

[@mintywebb]

Oh right so you know him...

[@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx]

​@@mintywebbWhy are you getting offended on Joe's behalf 🤷‍♂️🤭🤣

[@burnaardnufc3173]

He got humbled big time. To his credit he doesn't seem cocky anymore.

[@straightouttacornwall]

@@mintywebb You're coming across as Joes boyfriend. DO I know you personally? No but thats what I see. Hope thats cleared it up for you?

[@user-sp5pi9pg6x]

The simple reason pep gaurdiola let his go is simple at Barcelona he had valdz at Munich he had neuer and at Manchester he has ederson even though hart is a decent goal keeper he isn't really good with his feet

[@NoobGamingXXX]

Like many his only skill was his English passport, Pep saw that miles away ..

[@andypenswick2964]

Pep wanted to play out from back. Everyman and his dog knew that pep was coming for a full season before he cam.what did hart do in training for that year to try & improve his ability with his feet, not much by the looks of it. That does not suggest much in the way of effort or intelligence to me.

[@mikedon5205]

Pep was right always thought even though he replaced shay Given in goal Given was all round a better keeper . Hart was a great shot stopper but always had a mistake in him

[@howlieMCFC]

No mention from keown of arteta killing Ramsdale at arsenal hey

[@philip013]

It was bad enough when Pep told him he wasn't wanted at City but brutal when Nuno told him he wasn't wanted at Spurs, even as third choice.

[@acedup00]

He was never good enough for a top team. If he wasn’t white and English he wouldn’t even be a professional footballer

[@philip013]

@@acedup00 what about that keeper at Man U? He's not English or white.

[@nigelduckworth4419]

It's not surprising that Joe lost confidence as a result of Guardiola's decision because the latter replaced him with the triumph of Claudio Bravo. An own goal then bu not when City ended up with Ederson

[@PALWE]

Hart can’t pass the ball. Guardiola got rid of him for bravo who could pass the ball. United kept de gea who couldn’t. The game has moved on from shot stoppers.

[@mosesrocco6614]

Surprised that at no point did they talk about the fact that Joe Hart's problem was becoming somewhat obsolete when it came to the demands put on goalkeepers at the very highest levels of the game. You can't be elite and play at an elite club if you are totally unsuited to playing the role of 'sweeper keeper'. By all accounts that's why Pep didn't fancy him. The game just happened to go tactically in a direction that didn't suit him and Man City outgrew him in that sense. As Simon says (haha) he still had a very decent career by any standards.

[@Account_CB]

When a player retires...all of a sudden he's a 'great player'...🙄🙄🙄... I'm with Simon...Hart wasn't special...Pep is as good a judge as any & he didnt think twice abt dropping Hart... 2 PL titles in a team already winning again doesnt prove anything...then Celtic winning everything in Scotland...but its basically a 2 horse race. Keown even said Hart was the 1st person Pep dropped...so given their immense success since...doesn't that prove Pep is a better judge?? Hart & Kalvin Phillips, Ramsdale, etc etc in the same boat...not great...just decent. & England caps mean nothing 75caps when his competition was Green & ageing David James & young Pickford... Hart's career was 6/10..thats the truth...any other perspective is through rose tinted varifocals!

[@danielfisher7484]

Totally agree about Hart and what Simon said. I've been amazed at the talk this week about how great a goalkeeper people think he was. He single-handedly cost England so many times.

[@badabing8884]

Hart has epitomised England not producing a world class goalkeeper since Gordan Banks really. Shilton and Seaman were over the hill when they played at 1990 and 2002 WCs.

[@sicksquid3258]

The end for Joe came when Leigh Griffiths scored those two free kicks,never the same since.

[@David1988Mufc]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but that night against Barcelona I've never seen a better single handed performance from a goalkeeper in my life and it was a pleasure to watch and the fact near enough every single Barcelona player after the match came over to hart and praised him speaks volumes.

[@Youafool500]

They did the same for Forster at Celtic, I doubt it was as amazing as you think it was, he had a good game, big deal

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

More bullshit from English pundits. Was ederson an improvement ? Yes! Did hart do well after man city? No!!

[@dontbewoke]

Are you anti-English? Yes!

[@SulH-cr7pc]

England aint won the World Cup since 1966

[@acedup00]

@@dontbewokeis he lying ? No.

[@dontbewoke]

I'm English and Hart was a mediocre goalkeeper ; in any case the OP didnt reply proclaiming to not be anti-English so that says enough for me...@@acedup00

[@kiely4561]

He won’t go down as a Banks, Shilton or Seaman in terms of his england career but He’s had a great career none the less, i wish him all the best in retirement.

[@KINGKING10109]

Won a lot of golden gloves tbf

[@donmesut9587]

Yes, Pep man a bad choose with letting him go, he only won 5 league titles, champions league,

[@andypenswick2964]

Left leg for standing on. Premier league players sussed out 8 years ago they could pass ball along the ground into his bottom left hand corner

[@JustBens]

Keown doing his crossword as normal

[@Zx10rob]

Trying to spell his own name i expect

[@ianowen3157]

Decent at City when Pep, comes along. Tried Willy and Bravo. It didn't work out with those 3. The rest is history. If you want a team to evolve then change.

[@mcharrisment4765]

Spot on

[@bg7393]

It’s not Pep’s fault Joe couldn’t perform at Torino, West Ham, Burnley or Spurs 😂 not exactly big clubs are they

[@jamesjarrett52]

Spurs is a big club.

[@bg7393]

@@jamesjarrett52 😂 good one

[@philip013]

West Ham are massive.

[@bg7393]

@@philip013 West Ham are massive flops*

[@frazerlapsleyWATP]

@@bg7393do you even know the difference between biggest/massive and best/good?

[@TheHappyAbode]

He was brilliant for Birmingham.. we helped his career and he helped us

[@davidmcgeoch9387]

Celtic fans also have respect for him. Took a pay cut to go there. Won 5 titles and was very professional and respectful. Matured over his career. Is a well liked player and person.

[@TheHappyAbode]

@@davidmcgeoch9387 Celtic are great club wish they could play in the premier league.

[@spacedoge6540]

​@@TheHappyAbodeleague 1 team at best

[@adzm1987]

Bein a keeper, he is going early, in my opinion he could still do a job for celtic

[@Cornwall1888]

I think he wants to stop before he starts to decline badly

[@delboy013]

Couldn't be arsed

[@CEO786]

He declined about a decade ago, surprised he lasted as long as he did. Joe should go into the England squad to give advice to Southgate.

[@mintywebb]

​@@CEO786did you type that on the short bus or while you were waiting for it?

[@Brown87]

Rangers fans always appreciated our fellow British bretheren, but this guy chose to end his career with the most prolific club in world football for sexual abuse towards children 💯 We don't forget these things 🇬🇧

[@bluemoon1716]

Joe hart knew pep was coming and had a year to work on his passing and distribution. But he didn't think he needed to. That's on him not pep

[@madeinengland9488]

You can’t give him a year, he needs a childhood playing like that

[@ste4392]

The moment that ruined him was when he screamed at a ball boy and booted an advertising board. That's not a top keeper's temperament

[@willtallis5275]

Don’t see Martin mentioning arteta kill ramsdale for a keeper just as bad

[@michaeltwomey4692]

Never a top keeper, Pep was the 1st to call him out on it.

[@1977Futre]

Old school keeper. Thsts what did him in. Goalies expected to do more nowadays.

[@db1418]

I don't view him much different than I do Jordan Pickford, he has great moments but bad mistakes other times so in the end he is ok to good.

[@adamrashid96]

why are people taking about joe hart he doesnt deserve the airtime

[@Pappa953]

Joe Murphy’s hi light was when played for Tranmere Rovers!! Downhill ever since then.

[@yarp123123123123123]

joe heart was well overrated, one of the first things pep did was get rid of joe heart. bang average goal keeper

[@joshlewis5648]

He wasn’t at all. World class for 6-7 years

[@bossbod3163]

People don’t like hearing the truth

[@Hawkins123]

No footballer should be celebrated like they’ve done 8 years in Afghanistan. Played football for 2 hours a day and max 3 90 min games a week and picked up millions for it… should we all be in awe or something?😂

[@EmraldoDaSilva]

The only reason Pep was ”right” is because he had unlimited amount of money to buy goalkeepers. Before in football you couldn’t just throw away a national team goalie because of budget limitations.

[@Antonio-hb8rd]

"We saw Pep, or Pepe you want to call him"

[@ThereAre2TypesOfPeople]

He's a football player. Is picking up all those England caps, the medals and awards never mind the millions in his bank not a pat on the back enough.

[@conchords86]

Once again Simon the only one whose spitting facts. Jim is a complete numpty who I’m sure doesn’t even realise what he says at times. And Keown, why even have him on

[@jonjonesongasstationdickpi6179]

You really don't get the concept of this show do you

[@conchords86]

Yeah the fact they talk about sport on talksport was a real difficult one. What does the concept that have to do with having a host who acts the dummy and a guest in Keown who talks garbage

[@ryanevans7283]

Keown has to be the worst pundit on talk sport absolutely shocking

[@bananaberrylemon6316]

Not quite Simon. If a manager who is considered the greatest ever or certainly the greatest in the modern day, tells you you aren't good enough, sells you, then the England manager reflects his club managers decision in the national team. That would certainly shake a person's confidence, no doubt.

[@learnenglishwithtreesongte5915]

keown looks like he's marking his kids homework

[@Mighty5754]

Capped for England 75 times and according to Simon he's not a good keeper come on Simon give the guy a break

[@willtallis5275]

He’s not and England have never been blessed with that great keepers if you actually look at it properly Joe hart was terrible

[@New-ye2fl]

He’s was always better than Pickford imo

[@_Uh_Oh_]

Yeah, all very well bashing him but what was the alternative at his level at the time?!?

[@chucky7826]

Being better than pickford is hardly a glowing endorsement either 😂

[@Brown87]

Butland is better than both of them ⚽ Rangers fans always appreciated our fellow British bretheren, but this guy chose to end his career with the most prolific club in world football for sexual abuse towards children 💯 We don't forget these things 🇬🇧

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

@@Brown87 hahaha no he isnt

[@TheScouseB]

Mad arnt ya Pickford's quality

[@coletrickle7248]

Joe Hart at times was ‘Over Aroused’ says Simon. Can’t see the problem in that personally

[@BlueGorilla111]

Martin pep knew he wasn’t good enough for his team, simple

[@ajfraser7648]

Joe Hart was genuinely world class for a couple of years, then he let it get to this head and completely fell off a cliff.

[@beniaminmotac9107]

What’s the point of knocking him down when he’s just announced his retirement?

[@malwesthead3594]

Sesquipedalian Jordan is a nightmare to listen to .... Why not use layman's terms instead of trying to impress?

[@fredbarnes7812]

Pep went in and cleaned out the spine of city. Joe harts confidence collapsed from that moment

[@leemarks6622]

He was a talent lost but did not help himself with his arrogance not to adapt, he at his best is better than our top keepers now, but not quite at david james level for natural talent nor david seaman for mental strength

[@realtalk8665]

Hart is like Jordan Henderson

[@thisisanfield7085]

What has Hart achieved since his exodus from City, who has he played for and where is he right about now? Bang average keeper...

[@GtaRusStore]

he could never lace allan mcgregors boots, not even graig gordons, he was in his prime years and chucked it cos big phill BAHAHAH

[@bertieyoung3827]

Simons a tadger, if the zombies win the league it's got fvck all to do with Joe Hart. When he signed for us I was a bit worried after all this is the guy who let the second Leigh Griffiths free kick beat him, which was criminal in my opinion but,,, he has been great for us and is obviously a decent bloke with a presence around the club which has been beneficial to him and to us. Playing for us or them in goals isn't easy in fact you could argue it's as difficult as playing anywhere as the spotlight is on every mistake you make is enormous. He will go down as a legend at Celtic and another washed out English goalie??? is doing ok with them.

[@Manc268]

Joe Hart was a great keeper, AT THE TIME was the only one for many years city fans had confidence in.. he was a vital part of the spine of the team that improved dramatically and he was far better than Bravo... Hart, Kompany, Toure, Silva, Agguero.. that was a solid spine. If the ball got past the defense, city fans had confidence Joe would stop it.. we'd not had that before those years. But like other england keepers who made mistakes.. he got targeted by the press... before pep even arrived. Not including current keepers, Joe Hart was the best keeper City had for decades. He does deserve some credit for a good career before all the drama. City fans who saw the changes in the club over the decades know how good Joe was.

[@wayneb251]

Come on SJ, JH was and still would be a better keeper at international level than the overrated Pickford who has always been a liability for club and country😎

[@Ingenuity009]

Hart was massively disrespected. Pep made the move to early bring the dunce Claudio Bravo who was rancid.

[@josephhall5136]

I don't think.hart was as good some people think. He looked good with a good team in front of him. But at lesser teams with more shots at him,he has struggled. There is a reason why pep got rid and not got in these other teams.

[@mintywebb]

You mean like most keepers look better with a good team in front of them.

[@mikeybee1593]

Joe hart and kasper schmichel were competing for that spot before they had a good team in front of them at 18 years of age. I saw joe hart come through. He was a very good goalkeeper in actual fact. Time moves on though. Being just a good goalkeeper/shot stopper isn’t enough anymore ….

[@danielfisher7484]

Kasper Schmeichel has always been a far better keeper than Joe Hart, I never understood how he wasn't first choice ahead of him for longer at City.

[@acedup00]

@@mikeybee1593nonsense, he was dog 💩 all the time.

[@davidjohnson4498]

It was Nuno at spurs that killed Joe hart ( that's according to Joe himself)

[@Jonesylmao]

Phillips also trying to recover his career because of Pep. Not good enough or not right for the system, you can see it’s knocked his confidence and now he is getting comments left and right criticising his weight and motivation. Pep is the world’s best but he needs to be careful with some of these players.

[@carlwoods640]

Needs to be careful grow up

[@BallJuiceOfZeus]

Yea be careful with the guys who make hundreds of grand a week to sit on a bench 😢

[@Jonesylmao]

@@BallJuiceOfZeus so they aren’t humans with human emotions because of how much money they earn? We should just treat them like commodities and nothing more? Wtf is wrong with people.

[@TristanSpow]

@@Jonesylmaoto be the best hè has to be best, and if he isn’t good enough than he isn’t good enough. Simple.

[@jasnycal]

Is Martin a teacher? Always writing stuff down, you grading papers?

[@thadonis3516]

Poor Joe Hart, he had his head in his hands. Then dropped it.

[@jacobfield4848]

Pep treated Joe Hart very badly.

[@frasersutherland6837]

Why?

[@Laura-oz9tv]

He wasnt good enough for City its as simple as that.

[@wetflannel6343]

Big man is living in scotland his family arent thats enough reason to stop haha

[@P0OPING]

Simon Jordan is honestly so clueless😂😂

[@davidclarke6718]

At the end of the day for man city at that moment in time he was a great goalkeeper the end.

[@dougiegarcia3113]

Joe has gone good job for celtic all best joe

[@kevinmillar1122]

Joe Hart did not help Joe Hart no else to blame

[@wizzdom]

The man’s had a 20 year career at the top…why have a dig? Just congratulate the guy and move on

[@kizmutyaba4965]

I thought hart was overrated but pep finished him off. Making him 3rd choice.

[@rileythestickman]

Bet he doesn’t say the same about De Gea

[@andrewmerner7928]

Martin was right pep killed him, Simon wants to look at his own career

[@petermoore5196]

Simons usual answer about City players or ex not a great admirer joker.

[@lfcspectre4335]

Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊

[@thebeast3279]

Boring meme

[@amajeet]

Joe did lose confidence, Keown is both right and wrong. Pep did right thing wanted a better gk.

[@oliverchong2428]

Nah, he’s always been shite and overrated. Only thing I remember him for was shouting at some kid to “give me the fuc*ing ball!”.

[@jeanjacqueslundi3502]

Can't believe people are excusing Pep. What about Bravo? Pep kicks players out of clubs (like Deco or Etoo) and no on bats an eyelid.......but if it's other managers "he ruined their carreer"....

[@roberteshun1376]

He kicks out players and wins so what are u on about?

[@ivanaleksandartsanev1693]

Pep is successful, other managers are not, it's very simple.

[@jeanjacqueslundi3502]

@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 That doesn't excuse shitty behaviour. Or being unfair.

[@roberteshun1376]

@@jeanjacqueslundi3502 what shitty behavior, y'all emotional because he is British, if it had been any other goalkeeper we won't even be having this conversation. Shay Given was an excellent goalkeeper before he was injured and replaced with Joe Hart, who cared? Mark Hughes didn't want him as his number one and that was the end of the conversation. Pep didn't want him as his number one period and end of conversation. How many times have we seen managers come and replace players they didn't want? This is the norm and people should deal with it and stop acting like little kids whose toys have been taken away from them. Besides he had an opportunity to prove his worth with other teams in the premier leagues and yet he failed, so what is his excuse? Ultimately what you are saying is he is weak-minded and couldn't deal with rejection, guess what great athletes have an unbreakable mindset, eg CR7, if u cannot deal with pressure and rejection in football then is a problem because players get traded off all the time. At some point, people have to take accountability for their own actions. The guy was excellent for a few years and declined after that. This has been the trajectory of most football players and Joe Hart is no anomaly.

[@jeanjacqueslundi3502]

@@roberteshun1376 I don't even think Hart is a great keeper anymore, and no I'm not english, but Guardiola has a history of doing that. to players. When he left, he was good enough to play. Same with Bravo.

[@traceyb94]

Simon jordan is just a businessman, what gives him the rite to bring goalkeepers doon, dizny ken nothing🤬

[@Sean_1970]

Joes got EPL medals unlike a few geeat English players ie Stephen Gerrard for one! He wasn't bad to be fair just the game evolved & was he that bad for England people? ✌️👍

[@soapboxparishrecordings5287]

Hart 2010-16… great keeper. Been good last 2 years too

[@markordynamics376]

Rather average league is being nice 😂

[@dontbewoke]

You can tell how much of a narcissist Jordan is by the needless amount of times he begins sentences with "I think"

[@devilfacedjedi]

Joe hart is easily the worst goalkeeper certainly England have had. I’ve never seen a goalkeeper beaten so often from distance. It’s almost like he has mental block for 25/30 yarders. Credit where it’s due his reactions and reflexes are top drawer and he’s a good shot stopper if the ball is in his vacinity BUT if he has to move his feet or heaven forbid have to actually dive then he’s probably the worst I’ve seen.

[@graemefindlater5234]

Hart won more than most English keepers. So what is base for success? Judging by Simon.. no keeper is successful.

[@mangofinessekid]

if you have this in the background you don't fully understand that simon was just hating

[@jamalegal]

If he was so great why did he fell off after city

[@markpurdie7608]

To be fair at Celtic hes a weak point as in NOW not a great keeper craig Gordon 40 much better keeper & im not being biased just over rated imo

[@someguyfromengland5036]

"Claps back" disgusting use of English, dear me...

[@bicks82]

Serious lack of respect for Joe Hart, he has had a career that only 0.00000001% in the world get. You don't get that through good fortune. Shame he is retiring so early I've got a feeling he might have a long break then miss the buzz and come back, a bit like Ben Foster but prob with more miles left in the tank.

[@matthewdoyle3877]

Shut up he was over rated

[@dannyflynn9206]

It's becoming boring now every day Simons constant criticism just to boost ratings. He wasn't a successful.owner himself so I'm not sure why he's one to.listen to

[@stannats2637]

Joe Hart mister angry