Range balls suck how much exactly?? 👀

[@nick_wde]

This video is big golf trying to get you to stop stealing range balls

[@willmar1604]

lol!!

[@patrickmcmicking8705]

😆 I'm still taking the range balls

[@troyrobinson8788]

Almost got me

[@Iguro_Obanai6969]

@@patrickmcmicking8705same

[@lyonkang7402]

I’ll never stop

[@scottcraig2569]

The problem with range balls is that some are new and some have been hit a thousand times.

[@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz]

I went to a Top Golf once and I was puring them. I usually hit pitching wedge like 140. I annihilated one and it went 117. Plus I was on the second level, so it was downhill. The balls were clearly wrecked.

[@user-pi8jk4tv6g]

@@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZzTopgolf balls are not only ran through but also a bit heavier and made to be more spinny so people don’t hit them over the net.

[@adamseidel9780]

@@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZztop golf balls are intentionally reduced distance, not comparable to a normal range ball, which also suck

[@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz]

@@adamseidel9780 Idk, I went to a Top Golf out in Arizona and they were going my normal distances (arguably farther, actually), but the one in Philly were going like 65% max. Pured shots would just die in the air and go nowhere.

[@billjoe7036]

That’s not the problem lol

[@RK831]

Some range balls are specifically reduced distance, used for smaller ranges.

[@tjallisongolf]

The chromesoft ended its journey early due to rough... would've gone even further. I'd like to have seen ball speed on each. 👍

[@MartinBorgmeierLD]

easy math with the club speed and smash factor TJ

[@tjallisongolf]

@MartinBorgmeierLD lol what is wrong with my brain? 👍

[@tjallisongolf]

205.7 ball speed and 201.6 ball speed

[@jski718]

They both landed in the fairway.

[@XB10001]

Ball speed is after immediate contact. The ball dimple design will have a huge effect too on distance.

[@ZeeK33NKS]

I knew i was leaving 32yds on the table

[@user-ec4sh8vy2u]

North and south isn’t my problem… you got anything for fixing east and west? 😂

[@skywizard3148]

No shit, right?

[@Redskies453]

Yeah I'll take the 2nd one over 32 yards deep in the woods.

[@granthowes5659]

@@Redskies453I’ve got a 350 yard drive. 150 yards down range and 200 hard right 😂

[@JezzaGaux]

I think you mean left and right not East v West. Your range or hole could be facing either direction, therefore your comment would be invalid.

[@granthowes5659]

@@JezzaGaux oh you gotta be fun at parties. “Watch my six” “Actually my clock could be oriented differently therefore….”

[@subparspellr9360]

Sir, I'm going to need a larger sample size of both if I'm going to consider these findings accurate

[@heydeereman1040]

Our course recently installed Trackman Range. You can turn on or off the setting that adjusts for the limited flight of the range balls. I have done a similar test on the range by using a normal ball and have had the same results.

[@alexanderjefferies7740]

It makes sense why, because if you used regular balls, the amount of land on the range would have to be larger so as to not have them going out the back with the big hitters. So with heavier balls that spin more it means that the range needs less land, and the balls are closer together to get picked up which means rate of lost balls is reduced.

[@nic5250]

Good point

[@h0m1ess]

That is a big reason, and those range balls are just cheaper to make. Unless you have a launch monitor and are trying to dial in yardages, then a range ball is just fine to work on your swing. However like i said it’s bad for dialing in irons and woods when the ball goes that much less then on a real course real ball.

[@Thegolfingoldman]

@@h0m1essNonsense

[@TheNuggzt3r]

The most important thing is that range balls are built to last long. If I play 1 ProV1 or Chrome Soft for 18 holes I won't use it on a different tournament. That ball is a little messed up. If a golf club doesn't buy new range balls regularly they have to be sturdy.

[@bsheaves]

The range I go to, I hit the range balls about 25-30 yards less carry with my driver. The launch monitor says 280 and the corresponding flag they are landing near is 250.

[@interestedbystander196]

A lot of monitors at ranges have compensation on them. They add a % to factor in the relative weakness of the range balls...

[@playdiscgolf1546]

Significantly less compression/bounce off a range ball, especially the ones that have been hit hundreds of times

[@AnthonyC90]

@@playdiscgolf1546 honestly alot of range balls aren't too far off smash factor wise, especially off low loft clubs like drivers. The issue really comes with their aerodynamics. When you order range balls there are tiers designed to fly different % in the air. Essentially the dimple pattern is designed to drag and drop the ball earlier, so you can tailor them to your range size.

[@stompingpeak2043]

@@AnthonyC90what? Range balls are typically just regular balls you buy. They just buy balls in bulk from a manufacturer and put a different logo or something on them. They are the same ball but are refurbished a few times and lose distance.

[@brianyoung3]

@@stompingpeak2043 Range balls are 2 piece construction, are heavier so they don't fly as far, and made with more durable materials (lower quality). They really don't fly as far so don't swing harder than normal to make up the difference, you're defeating the purpose of your practice. 32 yards could be 10%

[@MplsLam]

What’s the conversion of Martin yards to Human yards? Like how much % less?

[@ReinoutSchotman]

So about 10% when normalized. Moreover, range balls are seldom “premium”. More often they are inconsistently distributed between crap and horse sh*t. This variance in performance makes distance calibration on a range very difficult.

[@MartinBorgmeierLD]

pretty good summary

[@mathewfullerton8577]

And illustrates why you hit range balls to groove a swing, work on correcting flaws but not to zero in your clubs' yardage gaps. Pros working on their game, whether on the range or during practice rounds never use range balls.

[@vikingbaggins1276]

When I started to practice golf for the first time some 35 yrs ago, I was told that rangeballs was softer and would go some 10% shorter than a normal ball. It was like 80 compression to 90/100 compression balls at the time.

[@paulmartin7334]

Damn Travis Kelce has a good golf game

[@browningcm]

I worked at a driving range… range balls are designed to take some off your shots so they lose less balls. Hope this helps

[@midnightbluenoz]

Not good if you're trying to see how far you can hit balls with different clubs

[@Candlemantle]

Great job aiming that hellhound of a swing ❤🎉

[@CruceEntertainment]

The lost distance and performance is to make it easier to pick up the range balls, fewer strays out over the fences, and discourages people from taking them to use on the course

[@69mjar]

Love the jam Marty!!

[@elliotstorer5687]

I always thought i was too bad for the ball to make a difference but since i got some titleist pro v1s Ive actually noticed a reasonable difference in my golf game and im a mid 20s handicap

[@beauoberbroeckling2162]

It's a better ball, but you're probably getting a little placebo effect. Good equipment gives confidence

[@elliotstorer5687]

@@beauoberbroeckling2162 yea thats probably true, whatever it is its working so hopefully i dont lose them all in the lake tomorrow 😂

[@AirsoftStriker]

It certainly makes a difference regardless of the handicap. Amateurs play different balls and that’s just another variable to add to the list.

[@crisantechris]

@@beauoberbroeckling2162 Actually mid/high-handicap golfers have the most strokes to gain from changing to a more premium ball.

[@donkee9]

A good quality golf ball is just much more enjoyable to hit.

[@ryanschultz4119]

Luv this tune!

[@mixter7x7]

How much distance did he waste with the vertical ?

[@casey583]

I really like that tracer that goes back to the ball while in flight. Looks much nicer than the entire line staying on screen. They should use that one on TV.

[@anyexpat]

I agree, its a lot easier to see the flight

[@rorygillmore6555]

I've seen people claim that they won't hit range balls with their driver because at high swing speeds they are caving in the face.

[@anyexpat]

Caving the face is generally due to bad strikes just fyi

[@Jayson_Tatum]

Or hitting it way harder than the club was realistically tested for. Not everyone swings 150+ mph.

[@anyexpat]

@@Jayson_Tatum Clubs can take 150plus no issue, they cannot take it when you strike away from the centre frequently

[@ronaldvanengen1887]

Better compression on the Non range ball explains the difference ❤😊

[@AnthonyC90]

Mostly spin and aerodynamics actually. Alot of range balls on low loft clubs actually compress just fine. Higher lofted clubs do find a bit of a smash factor difference.

[@kbc163]

This is my new excuse for short hits. "Damn range ball." 😂

[@Melodic_Music.]

Bro acted surprised the range ball went less far 😅

[@amateurgolf6343]

His club head speed is almost as fast as my ball speed 🤣

[@mufqihanifan7303]

That hanging time is unbelievable

[@ChaseHarker]

Never judge and measure distances on the range, purely for warmup or working on striking and direction.

[@taylorsharifzadeh6031]

The range ball big difference will be on the green. It won’t be as reactive as a better ball, it’ll hit the green like it was the fairway. The better balls will glue to the green and rotate a lot more

[@AndMay59]

Now hit some old Titleist DP, pinnacle or ultras 😎

[@AlphaKaiDom]

Got me with the head shake

[@gregorymaine9615]

This is the thing I need to keep remembering when I go to the Top Tracer Range and I’m consistently 30 yards short of my typical distance, else I end up hurting myself trying to get more from my swing. (I hurt right now in fact…)

[@michaelbusst3451]

M to the B. Great job great demo.

[@Jayson_Tatum]

Smash factor was noticeably higher on the Callaway. I'd do this with a larger sample size and with a near identical stats as possible. Same AoA, same Launch, same club speed, everything. 1 to 1 is not conclusive enough.

[@waffleninja1000]

I only use fresh ProV1x left dashes on the range.

[@ralphwright9997]

MB crushed those balls! Good video! I always forget this fact when I'm on the range

[@TheFitDragon]

depends on your swing speed also, I use range balls during my practice rounds all the time :D

[@TheJuzi]

range balls are high spin to curb distance so they are not hit out of the range.

[@Jayson_Tatum]

I still occasionally hit them over the net. FORE ON HOLE 7!!!

[@normhagen1913]

That is well known...most ranges are trying to keep the distances to a minimum while showing ball flight.

[@jimmythorpe65]

Thank you man, I have been wondering about that for a long time

[@willsmith8203]

Same results as the roll back that’ll come into effect lol

[@pleroma5924]

This is why I dont go to the range to find out my distances on my clubs. I just go to work on my swing🤷‍♂️

[@joenavarro3461]

Huge difference!!! 😱🏌🏽🔥🔥🔥

[@jackdavies9652]

The first looked more like a Boeing than a Callaway to me

[@Power5]

I was thinking spaceX falcon :D

[@Sumodeadliftsarefake69]

You mean the second one because it just falls out of the sky

[@bjhough3925]

Most range balls are 80 percent to keep more of them within the range.

[@anyexpat]

1 stripe 90%, 2 stripes 80%, 3 stripes 70% that is how many work

[@AmeagleWard]

The callaway showed an movie and served refeshments before landing.

[@alohaguchis]

This makes me feel better 😂

[@dombakarichgolf]

This dudes clubhead speed is most people's ballspeed 😂❤

[@JohnnyButtercuts]

the second one had a 0.06 difference in smash factor. Not enough to make a 32 yard difference but it contributes to more spin or not enough. Either way yes I have tested this myself and only see 8-10 yards on average…..because I don’t have his swing speeds 😂

[@crisantechris]

It also depends on your range. My local range uses the super cheap yellow balls that have been beat to hell and it’s about a 15-20% difference.

[@drumcatnau]

Range balls are softer and spin more, by design. Never use them to calculate distances.

[@gospeed81]

Now do a TopGolf ball

[@chrisjones444]

Give me the fairway one. Seems to be a clear winner! 😂

[@braga786]

Jumbo max grip

[@DLKing8]

That is a beautiful tee box

[@MoonChild-1994]

The irony is that the range ball landed in a better position in the fairway and Callaway in the rough for your IRON-y shot lol

[@daveb8378]

Range balls are designed for reduce distance.

[@pw8416]

The average golfer isn’t going to notice a def

[@wesleykeith8985]

Great vid

[@rylandmiller7722]

i mean smash factor made the ball speed higher on the calloway

[@mattbrown2701]

Sometimes you go to some ranges and I can really tell the balls are much different when you hit them. They feel quite frankly like crap.

[@mar2088]

Good song choice 👌🏽

[@angusskinner7392]

Some range balls are new, some old, drastically effects range. Sucks because I’m not super confident on round days because I don’t have confidence in my stock yardages. :(

[@ryze9153]

And every single one is limited flight. Just normal golf balls will pretty much always go farther than any range ball.

[@Chazze135]

Holy crap, I never knew this but I did feel like when I played I hit it way longer than on the range.

[@buulosphere7250]

Tj max Kelce brother right here

[@psymar]

it's to lessen the chance you hit the ball out of the driving range and into traffic

[@anomad6314]

Try range vs Srixon Ad333

[@Totschlagen1799]

This just solidifies that I want some type of launch monitor.

[@pobodysnerfect9270]

I was confused when i first started golfing and after range sessions my on course distances never matched up to my range distances.

[@plusfour1]

Take all the range ball yardages with a grain of salt. I look at shot shape and flight etc. But keep in mind, range balls are soaked in water and some kind of solvent so that they are clean. It doesn't take long for new ones to loose their new shine and start leaving marks on your club faces

[@anyexpat]

Distances generally do not match up anyhow unless you are on a grass range. Hitting off a mat is not hte same as hitting off grass.

[@rbslammed6163]

Some good 7 woods right there

[@bricknmotor]

Id connect with a range ball and duff a brand new ball if i tried comparing

[@cleveland2022]

Great video

[@SurrealGolf]

No wonder I can never clear the fence at the range

[@jimfoster2011]

What about an iron comparison?

[@Nobody2day553]

I used range balls and whatever I see laying around. The 30+ yards doesn't make difference when all my shots end up 100y in the woods.

[@nateprice999]

You need to compare with the same smash factor bro

[@Stiffshaft_Golf]

No offense martin, the range ball definitely had 3mph more club speed, but the misshit was exceptionally more. 1.42 instead of 1.48 like the first. Probably cut that 30 in half.

[@jekylthorn8969]

Nah. The vertical height in the first shot reduced the carry. Range balls are 25% shorter than premium.

[@felixknoll4146]

Haha both are Crazy Long. I remember playing this hole. Looks shorter when u do

[@danielvogel6617]

What's that in percentage?

[@JR-kn6rs]

I hope this is rhetorical

[@stephenlockett229]

Didn’t know Travis Kelce could golf! 💪💪

[@Bikerz_rule]

range balls are all about focusing your swing and keeping it in check. Comparing that with a premium golf ball's performance - there's no point

[@rickwilson3875]

The hang time on the Callaway🎉🎉

[@GolfLifer67]

God dam that club head speed. Im quite sure id explode into about a million bits swinging that fast 😂 But fuck the roll back, hate it !

[@michaelh6136]

no wonder i never have any idea what i am doing ever

[@wilsonhung8654]

You didn't show the spins! The main difference for the yardage differential comes from compression and, thus, spin.

[@Ganjikhan]

I want to see a video of 2 of the same balls, but one is new and the other has been outside for a week, getting rained on and seeing temp changes. Compare a new ball to a ball that you find on the course.

[@nathanthomas8222]

Designed to be 10 to 20 percent shorter

[@wadeoden8464]

I always retire a couple of old Bridgestones or Titlelists at the range when finishing my driver session to see how much farther they go (25-50 yds +).... did it really say his club head speed was 142mph?!? that's the ball speed of my 3wd.

[@timothypollock8358]

You've officially confirmed the suspicions of so many of us. Don't play or bag map with range balls. Also, a more responsive ball is probably going to curve more, especially on mishits, than one is seeing with range balls. Cheers.

[@williamdevaney7752]

What’s with the spandex

[@interestedbystander196]

Would like to know what that 32 yeards was as a% of total distance.

[@jonathanp89]

I alwaysusef to find random prov1s in the bucket and would steal them 😅😅

[@CrashLarue]

Wind?

[@bakervinci163]

My club in North Carolina uses pro v1’s on the range

[@drumcatnau]

Umm… either it's posh af or it's just a label.

[@TxBattalion]

small sample size

[@anyexpat]

So really closer to 40 yards that sounds about right

[@christ9359]

Strike on the range ball was worse. 1.48 smash vs 1.42

[@ABCDEFG-bk9gx]

10% less distance.

[@scottdowdy3563]

And yet the range ball is in a better position for a good second shot.

[@kc8923]

140mph club speed?! 😮