MartinLogan Motion XT F100 Floorstanding Speakers Listening Impressions

[@mikemorris1530]

Thanks Gene! It would be great to hear your thoughts/comparisons of the ML F100 vs Arendal 1723 vs Polk R700 in a knock down dragout, winner take them all.

[@joelkuznetsov2826]

Had the exact same question....😄

[@hochhaul]

I think a new floorstanding speaker article is due. A lot has changed since the last AH roundup.

[@kylemartinez5154]

That’s what I am waiting for!

[@samlee2562]

And then whatever wins we can wait around until something else comes out and ask for that to be compared... 🥹

[@moderngentlemanschool]

Oh please do this!

[@darthJordo]

Ive had the previous gen for the last couple years. motion 40i 30i and 15i’s for surrounds and rears in a 7.1. They’ve been fantastic. Great review Glad more people are finding out about this brand.

[@JonMoralesLA]

Agree! I have my entire front stage and rear surrounds in the Martin Logan Motion series. I accidentally fell in love with them while doing A/B testing at a Magnolia section of BestBuy. Took them home and fell in love with Martin Logan. Replaced my ELAC setup with the Martin Logans. I think they have done a terrible job of making their products available to reviewers. Looks like they finally are doing that with this new lineup. Wish they would make a new soundbar as well. The Martin Logan Motion Vision soundbar was amazing! Blew away my Sonos Arc and any other soundbars I’ve tried. Amazing bass not requiring subwoofer and the folded motion tweeters just sounded amazing in that soundbar. You can find them used for $300-$400 these days and we’ll worth it.

[@kingtrance307]

For about half the price of the F100’s you can grab a pair of Motion 60 XTi’s on close out right now. That’s not a bad option either, they sound terrific. 👍

[@JesusMartinez-mk6fc]

Gene, thanks for sharing your informed insights on this very interesting new Motion XT models from ML. I'll be looking forward to listening to them at the upcoming Montreal Audiofest at the end of March.

[@danzilla31stompinontokyo36]

Thanks for reporting on these and setting then up for review Gene. A well designed AMT tweeter is my preffered tweeter. I'm really looking forward to your official review and measurements

[@dan-qe1tb]

You can even buy your own AMT off of Madisound (though they sell many drivers but few boxes). I have 60xts with a large AMT crossed over at 2200 Hz

[@SealedOrPorted]

Great to hear Martin is producing a traditional speaker line on par with their electrostatic counterparts.

[@jerameyregimbald2137]

I went and demo'd a pair of Martin Logan Motion XT F100's. Between you and so many others I have heard so many great things about them. I all but decided I was going to buy them, along with the center and B100's for surrounds. Since it's a rather big purchase I thought I should listen to them first. For some comparison I wanted to also demo the Polk R700's as well. I heard so many great things about them, so why not? I first listened to the Polk R700's. The second song I listened to was dominique fils-aimé's Birds. It sounded really good on the Polk R700's, REALLY good! In fact, everything I listened to sounded great. I was having so much fun listening to the Polks that 45 minutes past before I realized I hadn't listened to the speakers I came there for yet. I had the Sales rep switch to the Martin Logans and it was such a stark difference. I listened to all the same songs again in the same order and the XT F100's sounded bright, thin, and lacking bass compared to the R700's. What is going on here? I tried turning it up and it made me wince, so I had to turn it down a little. They set the speakers up on the Denon X4800h, since that's the AVR I have at home and they put it in Pure Direct mode. As soon as they switched to the Martin Logans it felt like the wind was taken out of the sales. The sound stage was a little wider, had a little more depth, and the sound separation was slightly better as well. It almost sounded like every sound was coming from it's very own speaker placed in different areas, which was impressive, but it also sounded like I was being shouted at from far away. I listened for about 30 minutes and switched back to the Polks. Immediately, everything I was missing came back. The sound was more robust and textured. It felt more intimate, like I was in the room with them while they were singing. They also sounded warmer than the XT F100's, which I didn't even know I liked. I'm coming from Klipsch Speakers that I've had for 15 years. The ML's sounded very similar but way more refined. I could tell they were better than what I had, but the sound coming from the Polks was way more pleasing to my ear. This was not subtle either. it was night and day difference. What is going on here? I was all ready to buy these ML's, but after hearing the Polks and knowing that I can get all 5 speakers for less than a pair of ML's, It's hard to justify going with the ML's any more. What is everyone else hearing that I'm not? why are these considered such amazing speakers but they sound weak, anemic, and bright to me? Would they sound better with a more powerful am? I do have the Emotiva XPA5 gen 3 that I will hook them up to. They did look a little worn, like they had been on the floor for a long time. the front baffle was separating from the cabinet by 1/4", so maybe there was something wrong with them, or perhaps, I like a less refined sound.

[@Audioholics]

Maybr the MartinLogans were wired out of phase? The F100s are not lacking in bass. Another possibility, different placement than the Polks? Either way, both are great choices.

[@jerameyregimbald2137]

@@Audioholics Thank you so much for getting back to me. I appreciate it. Being out of phase might have been the case. I don't know though since I didn't hook them up. It wouldn't have been the placement because they moved the speakers for me to the same spot, each time I switched. I could definitely hear the bass in the ML's but I couldn't feel it. It was like listening to a really nice set of open back headphones. One song I listened to was "I See Fire" by Geoff Castelucci, which is a great track to hear the quality of the bass. He's the most impressive bass singer I've listened to, as of today. The ML's were way more crisp sounding than the Polks on this song, for sure. He hit some low notes that, in comparison to the ML's, the Polks sounded a little...."Muddy", but I could feel it in my chest. That made the overall experience better, because I barely felt anything with the ML's. Don't get me wrong, it still sounded great on the Polks, but this was the only track where the ML's sounded more refined in the bass region. It was noticeably clearer. I placed an order on the Polks since they had a promotion. They are on back order until next month though. I plan on listening one more time before I pick them up, just in case there was a fluke. They said I can still get the ML's if I change my mind. I want to get something I won't feel the need to upgrade for a long time. Thank you!

[@borlach321]

Martin Logan is crushing it with this new line. Great work, Gene!

[@williamhicks2763]

Good on Martin Logan for the simple setup without room correction.

[@mikelanier5617]

These look promising 👌 Happy Valentines day everyone ❤️

[@ruvamsi]

Impressive looking speakers! I was planning to get the Arendal towers but these seem like strong contenders. Hope y'all compare the two

[@gz4058]

Did you end up getting the Arendals?

[@ruvamsi]

@@gz4058 No,, but I did listen to these Martin Logans and they are quite impressive. They were better than everything else in the Best Buy room: Def Tech, KEF Q, B&W 700. Better than everything except ML's own panel speaker, but the vertical directivity on those just don't work for me

[@happytimeswithdave8670]

Hello Gene, nice reviews. Looks that the motion series continues to deliver loud and clear.

[@geohof]

Really enjoyed your impressions video on the Martin Logan’s! You should do more videos like this.👍

[@Audioholics]

Thanks! Will do!

[@AudioElectronicsChicago]

I love the new design!

[@diamond527]

Happy valentine's day audioholic 💚💚💚👍

[@Audioholics]

Same to you

[@dougg1075]

Listened to each song you spoke of. Excellent

[@sds4810]

Hey Gene how do you think these would compare to the Goldenear Triton lines. Since they both use ribbon tweeters?! And even their bookshelves do you think can compete well against the BRX bookshelf by Goldenear also?! And if possible do you think James could do a direct comparison of the 2 brands and their use of this ribbon technology? Especially since their prices similarly!

[@Novilicious]

The XT f200 may be the giant killer of the bunch. These are a nice upgrade over the Arendal 1723 thx towers…something about a 3-way tower (the MLs) is different than a 2.5-way(Arendals). But the arendals towers (1723 big boys) at half the price are still a phenomenal deal ❤❤❤

[@dextermorgan1]

Have you heard both?

[@lawrencesommaesq.9944]

Would love to hear a comparison of these …

[@ArthaxtaDaVince777]

Aria 948s are already a giant killer and can be found on sale for 3500/4000

[@JTTheITGuy]

Excellent!! I have the B100xt on order right now! And insight on the B100xt bookshelves?

[@Audioholics]

Haven't heard them but same DNA. Get a good sub to extend bass.

[@JTTheITGuy]

Just got them today and HOLY CRAP!!! Have not even been able to connect the subwoofer yet and I am IMPRESSED!

[@pawel3100]

Gene, what are your thoughts on how these compare to the Arendal 1723 speakers.

[@pauldoyle8986]

Go with the Arendals.

[@mclement052164]

Ive been considering buying Klipsch RF7 iii for 2 channel stereo and as front mains. for my 7.3.4 home theater to replace RP8000F. Would you rec these over the RF7.?

[@Sanslab-wu8tv]

I love these speakers, but fully agree with you that they need a stout amplifier. The difference in amplifier was much more noticeable than I expected.

[@markd4292]

Thanks for the review. I recently pulled the trigger on a pair of Sonus Faber Lumina 5 and I am enjoying them yet I have always enjoyed the ML AMT tweeter. I liked their older XTi 60 but it had problems so I got the Sonus Faber. Now ML came out with this XTf100's. I got an email from Sonus Faber and they announced a trade-in program where I can get full MSRP price for my speakers, so I may just trade my Lumina's for the XTf100. Both the ML and SF I believe are wide dispersion speakers. I am impressed and shocked that ML set up their speakers along the short wall. A wide dispersion speaker along the short wall? How did it sound, given the fact that it looks like hardly any acoustic treatments have been made.

[@williamhicks2763]

Thanks Gene! I would love to hear a follow up on how the F200’s compare and are they worth the extra money or if that would be better spent on a subwoofer. I’m also cross shopping the Sonus Fabers in the similar price range which also have a downward firing port. I believe I need a downward or front firing port because I simply can’t pull them out from the wall mor than a foot or two. Anyway thanks. For some reason I can find no reviews of the f200s.

[@dextermorgan1]

REALLY wish they had an optional 3 way center.

[@BobFrostV]

The black cone center looked very slick with the light hitting the cone material. If you're crossing over with subs then 2 way is fine.

[@mikelanier5617]

It's actually a 2.5 way center for anti lobing if that is your concern. Each mid bass driver is crossed over at different frequencies.

[@MrJamesIreland]

Yes I won’t be buying an MTM center again

[@Audioholics]

I agree but it's difficult to make a low profile center channel that has such a large waveguide on the tweeter.

[@sds4810]

I think the bookshelf model would make a great Center channel alternative than the traditional MTM version anyways

[@wr7629]

how does the XT F100 compared to your Revel??

[@jth1670]

Looking forward for the F200 review. I’m thinking of replacing my Bryston Middle T with the F200. The middle T do not punch much in the low mids (125-250hz) because the crossover point is at around 130. The low mids are on the shoulder of the poor 5inch mid driver. In the F200 the crossover is at 300. So the low mids are with the Bass on those 3 8inch woofers. Exactly what I’m looking for….

[@Audioholics]

That would be a substantial upgrade for sure. The tweeter in the MartinLogan is far superior and the overall design approach is much more sound as well IMO.

[@josephtronolone3242]

Listening to Geoff Cadtelucci, never heard of him before, an amazing talent.

[@tonydillinger2553]

I was looking at 8000f II, but some are saying that the horn on the klipsch can cause bleeding out of all orifices, also looking at polk r700. Now looking at these but would have to get one speaker every couple months, lol...

[@davids2214]

Did you hear the F10 or F20 at the event? I understand you loved the F100, but my room seems better suited size-wise for something a bit smaller. They have different AMTs and woofer materials though, so wondering how they stack up.

[@kyleo2113]

Please review the bookshelf as well - can pick up a few for the price of a floorstander

[@JonHunter80]

never heard of any of those songs you mentioned but if really want to blow your mind, play "one" by Metallica!.. and btw, u dont have to like the band to just appreciate the amazing speakers that are MartinLogan Motion XT F100. another great song is "fade to black" then besides two of my faves for demoing new speakers, to teat attack & decay, play "the chemical brothers - das spiegel. the to test rhythm & timing, play Can - spoon. then to test midrange, play anne sofie von otter - baby plays around. then to test treble, play max roach - lonesome lover. the to test dynamic range, play george gershwin - rhapsody in blue. then to test bass control, play thundercat - uh uh. to test scale & authority, play john williams - theme from Jurassic park.. oh cant forget "the national anthem by Radiohead" to hear the airiness & sounds coming from every direction. real Audiophiles know about that track. trust me play all these songs in the order listed. for the price I dont think these speakers can be beat. they have exceptional vertical & lateral. they punch well above their weight class. some $10K speakers are not as good. they hit a homerun with the motion XT series

[@Cowplunk]

Metallica's Justice album is perfect for exposing speaker cabinet resonances. Any speaker I own must pass the "Blackened test".

[@Dchomkara]

Would you have any thoughts on the new Kef R11 metas?

[@Skye_the_toller]

Vs Paradigm F100 Founder? (I earlier comment, you wrote favourably… this is a short answer!😂)

[@wktek48]

Love the design, looking good. Never heard about this brand in the Netherlands.

[@bigjohn2811]

It's part of Paradigm Electronics, which also owns Anthem Electronics.

[@JonMoralesLA]

They are just terrible at marketing. Basically non existent until now where they are finally letting KZbin reviewers get access to these. Martin Logans Motion series is just amazing. Here in the US I have scored building up to 7 out of mu 9 speakers being Martin Logan all purchased on the used market for insane deals. What I especially love coming from ELAC speakers…they are so easy to listen to. At lower volumes they still sound full and great. I had to crank my ELACs to bring them to life and it was fatiguing after 30-40 min. I can listen to the Martin Logans for hours without fatigue.

[@JosephTongret]

Hey Gene, how would they accomplish 92db sensitivity across all of these models? It seems optimistic for a two-way with a 5"mid-woofer to be that sensitive. I asked Audio Advice and they told me they were a little puzzled by that as well, but they confirmed it to be correct. Any insight on this? They definitely look incredible though!

[@Audioholics]

This was puzzling to me until I discussed with the ML engineers. This topic will be covered in our up coming video so stay tuned...

[@JosephTongret]

@@Audioholics I'm looking forward to it! Super curious to learning how and why. Thanks Gene 👍

[@stephenjacks2785]

@@Audioholics Could it be because they have put the ribbon in a horn type enclosure?

[@gregmatula9749]

A gain in sensitivity usually means a loss of bass extension. Less moving mass. They may be relying more on room boundaries to augment the bass. I'm looking forward to the measurements.

[@JosephTongret]

@@gregmatula9749 that actually makes sense, I hadn't thought of that. The smaller models probably have bass rolling off pretty high in the frequency range.

[@carlom.3737]

Great first look, looking forward to more detailed impressions from you all! Either late 2023 or early 2024 I plan to build a 2 channel setup in a second listening room focused solely on 2 channel playback. Ideally I'd like to keep my speaker pair under $4K and the FT100s are just north of that. Was initially looking at the Arendal 1723 Towers at $3700 so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the FT100 vs. the 1723 for 2 channel music playback.

[@Audioholics]

Both great choices. Buy both, send back losers in your own listening tests.

[@carlom.3737]

@@Audioholics I'll take that to mean they're both roughly in the same ballpark with slight tradeoffs to each other. Sadly at my age (and time) my days of auditioning multiple speakers and then re-boxing the loser(s) of shootouts are behind me. When I'm ready to pull the trigger I'll likely let price and availability be the driving factor since it doesn't seem one stands heads-and-shoulders above the other!

[@filmstylehd]

Just curious, I am running balanced audio technologies equipment. I am currently running them with klipsch corner wall for speakers. I have Dolly helicon 800s as well. However, I love the live sound of the corn walls. Wondering how you might compare those.

[@filmstylehd]

Obviously, I meant cornwall

[@Powerpickle68]

Will you reviewing the F10 ?

[@maxpower78-15]

Again. Truly gorgeous

[@BLM4ife]

Hey great content!! Just one question what do you think about KEF R11 meta?

[@boomerscs9193]

Really interested in the xt bookshelf. It's ported whereas the towers have the mid and tweeter in a sealed enclosure. I'm concerned the bookshelf may not perform as well. Hope you'll be doing a review of bookshelf and comparing it to the xt center channel. Thanks.

[@brownstone43]

I liked the Motion 60 XTi's,,, except for the tweeter that couldn't get the highs the way i like them piercing through you. So i returned them for the 702 S2. But think the bass was a bit better in the ML. Thought i heard that the F200 has a bigger tweeter.?

[@chrissheldrick4073]

Hi Gene... How might these compare to the Paradigm Founder 100f speaker

[@Audioholics]

I would say favorably. Both great options!

[@tonydillinger2553]

looking at the f20, not sure if the xt f100 would be worth the price increase for a small room

[@albertdenton]

I’m an owner of the 60xtis the models after the ones in the past u posted.I run the matching centre and 15i’s all around in an atmos system. Is this the Placebo effect as I’m very happy with my motion line

[@davel4449]

GENE AND JAMES PLEASEEEEE A REVIEW OF THE FOUNDATION F2 TO COMPARE TO KLIPSH 8000F II AND POLK R700 !!!!!

[@stephenphillips1660]

8 months later and still no detailed review of these speakers?

[@StereoWars]

Sure hope ML will make in wall versions of these!

[@bobafet5363]

Hi! I have the Marantz SR8015. Do you recommend this kind of speaker with it? Thank you

[@Audioholics]

Yes Marantz SR8015 is very capable to drive them.

[@bobafet5363]

Thank you have a great day!!!!

[@Snskch3]

How do the f100s compare to Klipsch rf-7iii? They are priced about the same. Thanks.

[@Sativacyborg007]

Hey Gene, I currently run Montis from my front left and right channels what the F 200 be able to replace this in the home theater form factor

[@jamiesmith8307]

Hey I'm looking at the F200s or the founder 100f or klipsch rf7iii. I have anthem 1140 and the 325 power amp for my setup. Have all older klipsch now (rf82). Listen to alot of heavy metal (Metallica) also I do movies as well. Which would you recommend?

[@Audioholics]

Stick with klipsch based on your music taste.

[@mpcmboy]

Am dying to see this exact comparison! I'll be anxiously waiting as well!

[@jamiesmith8307]

@@Audioholics thank you very much for your reply

[@rushgush]

@@Audioholics they are not good with metal music?

[@Audioholics]

@zedrick zedwick they are fine w all music but strictly metal listening misses the magic these speakers offer. Klipsch is better suited for loud and bass.

[@davel4449]

Would like do much the foundation f2 i am on the fence to buy them !!!

[@169bishop]

Shame a video of the speakers wasn’t played. I’m really interested in these speakers.

[@Audioholics]

A listening test on KZbin can never give you an accurate representation of what a product sounds like and such demos are an exercise in futility. I recommend going to your local dealer for a proper demo.

[@crazycomments8038]

Will a Denon 4700h be plenty for the F100's?

[@daveycrockett5738]

Thanks for this gene. These speakers are really catching my eye. I don’t the chances are very good that I would buy them because I already have a very lives dedicated system but hey who knows. How would you compare these beauts to say my flagship speaker rf7iiis?

[@Audioholics]

Different speaker all together. I would say the MLs are a more refined sound and more tonally neutral compared to the Klipsch.

[@daveycrockett5738]

@@Audioholics I completely understand and would Probably have to agree. How about the other aspects of speakers like sound stage center imaging bass build quality. Any other points and thanks

[@princediesel1]

Gene , I have the 60xti , running anthem MRX740 , would the F100 work with a MRX740 ?

[@mrpiz665]

Are you gonna be at Axpona audio expo in Illinois?

[@Audioholics]

Nope but will be at FAE in Tampa this weekend.

[@joes3800]

Thanks Gene! I know you haven't reviewed these yet, but you have experience with RBH speakers. I have the SV-6500Rs myself. Would you say - based on your initial impressions - that the new ML Motion speakers are comparable to the RBHs that also have aluminum cones and AMT tweeters? Any feedback on similarities and/or differences would be appreciated!

[@Audioholics]

Yes I would say the MLs compete favorably to the RBHs.

[@joes3800]

@Audioholics Thank you. I have a friend who came to my place the other day and he is looking for the same SQ. 😁 Would you specifically say the last generation Reference RBH or the new Motion Series is "better"?

[@Audioholics]

@@joes3800 I can't say without direct comparison but you're way ahead of the game if you own either speakers.

[@joes3800]

@Audioholics I actually liked the previous generation ML Motions just from several listening impressions I got from various venues. However I do like my RBH SVRs better. But with all of the rave reviews about the new generation Motions already coming out, I don't think I'll replace my RBHs, but I think I will recommend that my friend check the new Motions out as a possible alternative to the RBHs. I'll see if I can also listen to them myself if I ever get a chance, and I also can't wait for Audioholics to do a formal review.

[@melwill1962]

What about Outlaw amplifiers for these speakers with a onkyo operating as preamp?

[@Audioholics]

Outlaw makes good, reliable amps.

[@melwill1962]

@@Audioholics ty🙏🏿😍

[@dtyndall11]

That ending tho. “Keep li-“ 😂

[@Audioholics]

LOL

[@michaellatta]

I see the revel f226be? How would the f100 or f200 compare?

[@Audioholics]

F200s over Revel 💯

[@michaellatta]

@@Audioholics thanks for the reply. I will make a point to try them if I can find a dealer.

[@michaellatta]

@@Audioholics what do you like better about the f200?

[@ryanschipp8513]

When you say that the 100's are full range Tower speakers are you saying they're playing audibly from 20 Hertz to 20 khz?

[@Audioholics]

No but for music they are pretty close to full range.

[@Sam_CL350]

I have to ask. Do you think the XT F100 sound $3000 better than the Polk R700? I think it’s a fair question. Thanks

[@Audioholics]

I personally haven't heard the R700s. I have extensive experience with the L800s but that's a different type of speaker.

[@Sam_CL350]

@@Audioholics Thanks

[@DigitalDonAV]

Marcin's remake of Kashmir is one of my favorite demos.

[@fonkenful]

Having ten fingers on each hand definitely makes a difference😂

[@MidFiMan]

Those dang planars…or whatever they’re called, we’re freaking amazing. I’ve never wanted any, they’re ugly to me, but wow and I want some now.

[@MidFiMan]

My Anthem will make them scream.

[@MidFiMan]

That Sixteen Tons is breathtaking

[@BobFrostV]

@@MidFiMan Yeah they kept playing Sixteen Tons by Geoff Castellucci at the Audio Advice event. Best version imo.

[@robertwoods1380]

Nice job.

[@robertoilla7957]

Will a denon avr-x3600h drive these speakers?

[@Audioholics]

It would but I'd add a 2 or 3CH amp from Monoprice, Outlaw Audio or Anthem for the win.

[@illogicman]

Has anyone in here tried these speakers on the Anthem mrx 1140 receiver? If so, please say a few words on how it handles these speakers. Thanks

[@lordhelmit1499]

Ideal amp for f200?

[@Audioholics]

Anthem STR

[@mendiesel7932]

Here’s the question; Is it worth selling my motion 60xt and picking up a set of the 200?🤔

[@Audioholics]

Yes!!!

[@mendiesel7932]

@@Audioholics well since you twisted my arm…🤷🏽‍♂️

[@roberttroxell4006]

I have the 60XT’s too, but not looking to upgrade yet.

[@mendiesel7932]

@@roberttroxell4006 The 60XTs are sweet no doubt but I'm ready for something different myself. To that end, I actually just picked up a set of Arendal 1723 towers since the 60day buy and try is hard to pass up. At first, i thought they would have their work cut out against the 60XTs. But after about two weeks of non stop break in, and just listening to familiar tracks, I think the Logans might get moved to second string. I have yet to do an A/B listening session, but I've had the logans for close to six years, and I know their sound quite well. These Arendal 1723 impress for sure. The mids and lows are in a different class altogether IMO. The high end is just a hair to my preference on the Logans, but these Arendals are no slouch and I would not miss much (if anything) were they to replace the logans.

[@diamond527]

I like audioholic 💚💚💚👍

[@Bryan-hd7nm]

Great video gene! How would you compare these Logan’s to the focal arias 936 k2 you reviewed a few months ago?

[@Audioholics]

Impossible to accurately compare without both being in the same room but I think the new ML F100s are class leaders in their price range based on what I heard at the demo.

[@ReanimatedShad0w]

When should we expect a review?

[@Audioholics]

Assuming review samples show up in the next couple of weeks, hopefully end of March.

[@ReanimatedShad0w]

Awesome. A bit premature but I do have the 60xti,50 and 35 in a 5.1 set up. You think this is worth the upgrade for those that are looking or best to look into an entirely different product line with similiar cost? I know your hearing was limited but I value your opinion

[@Nightjar726]

The previous Motions were a bit boxy sounding. I did like the rest of the sound. Are the new ones more solid and not boxy sounding ? Thanks Gene

[@kingtrance307]

I don’t think the 60 XTi’s are boxy at all. They have a very wide soundstage (at least to me) but everyone hears different.

[@princediesel1]

I really like my 60 xti

[@kingtrance307]

@@princediesel1 - Me too! The latest incarnation looks nice but paying double the price for the XT F100’s or 200’s just isn’t in my wheelhouse. I actually prefer the cosmetics on the 60 XTi’s better too. I got mine in Red Oak.

[@rickp6731]

unless you add an 6 Line Array REL Acoustics Subs to your system your missing out on most of the Magic in Recorded Music. It's always been there and this is the only way to bring it out ! The same kind of feeling you get at an LIVE EVENT is waiting for you ! 🤔🤫Best-Kept Secret

[@markmallinson935]

Are these manufactured in China or USA?

[@sv1201]

The previous gen was made in China, designed in Lawrence, Kansas.

[@flomofo1]

Is the F200 just more of a good thing then,...

[@Audioholics]

Yes

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[@SwirlingDragonMist]

I like their styling with the gold accents allot, reminds me of some 90’s pioneer esthetics. They feel Rich and Decadent like a tiramisu. While allot of plain white minimalist speakers strike me as more pretentious than something ostentatiously trimmed with gold and chocolatey dark fireside vibes. I do have a bit of a hangup though with the gap between the lower bass drivers and the upper one. Maybe there’s some baffle reinforcement reason behind that, or that region is the junction of the internal bracing, I don’t know but I feel cosmetically they should be more uniformly distributed like those Revel’s in your background. Which maybe means making each driver an inch larger and the cabinet two inches wider. This last generation infinity reference series has their drivers spread way out and it just looks sloppy and like they intended to put another driver in there but cheaped out last minute. It just screams compromise and notions of corporate departmental conflict, rather than a clear unified vision fully delivered. These Martin Logans aren’t that bad, but still a little off putting in the same esthetic way, although these do inspire more confidence in their delivery of vision. As do the Revels which are basically infinity speakers taken to the max.

[@bigjay1970]

All I can tell you is that Geoff Castellucci sounds fantastic on my jbl 590"s using two 550p subs in a fantasticly set up environment. I think a Bose wave guide radio could Rock out to that guy. It just amazes me how some artists sound so much better than other artists, even Ultra famous ones.🤯😵😬 David Garfield also sounds ultra fantastic. I'm in the belief that the recording is more important than the actual device playing it!🤯🤯 Heck Mr. Garfield sounds fantastic on my Samsung phone it's so good.😬

[@dougg1075]

They look tasty. The thirst!

[@okcyurwin]

At 6:15 of this video you state it was a small room with barely any treatment..... That many drivers, with the bottom one using the floor for extra gain?? Big powerful expensive speakers sound horrible in small untreated rooms. I have to call BS on this review or any other review held in a small untreated room🤔🙄

[@kingtrance307]

That seems kind of harsh. Gene isn’t commanding you to go out immediately and buy them. The review is decent enough and gives you a taste of the new model line up.

[@okcyurwin]

@@kingtrance307 hello, I agree, kinda harsh. Over the decades I've changed amps, speakers, DAC etc and had only changes in tone. Nothing spectacular considering the amount of money spent. Since lock-down I've been down the acoustic treatment rabbit hole and I'm now hearing more of my hi-fi equipment vs the frequency of my room. As you correctly treat the low frequencies the other frequencies are given the space to be heard. My equipment has always been gagged by the room response. I now know I've let go of some really good equipment in the past because my room was a not allowing me to hear it properly. My current equipment is opening up as I add room treatment. Room acoustics is a mind boggling science but even basic treatment in problem areas makes a remarkable difference to what you hear in your room. Different speakers in the same room will sound very very similar to the speakers you just took out🔊🔊🤔😁👍🏼

[@kingtrance307]

@@okcyurwin - Funny you mention room treatment for bass response. I recently added a 12 inch twin size foam memory mattress bed to the back end of my listening room. This was only added because this old fella likes to occasionally grab a nap. Well it also ended up inadvertently making an excellent bass trap and being a great addition to the room! Running EQ software like Audyssey or Dirac helps too. I believe changing speakers can make a difference. I changed my front LCR over from Klipsch to Martin Logan and the difference is pretty stark. Big difference going from Klipsch horns to the ML AMT tweeter. Definitely a change but they are much more smooth and kind at least to these old ears…

[@ScubaDude1960]

Good video, except for the horrible intro music. Dude......

[@dalstar925]

Just heard these a few weeks ago. Really wasn’t impressed at all. Was at audio advice in Charlotte. Wound up taking the Lumina V home instead

[@t.j.bennett6454]

These speakers look like they’ll be on sale for 70% off on Newegg by next year.

[@Audioholics]

Not sure how you think that. If.you saw them in person and heard them, you wouldn't make such a ridiculous statement.

[@samidebs3559]

I think they need to get rid of that ugly gold ring,other wise it’s a good looking speakers 🔊

[@xjusterx]

I wonder why every revieweir FORCING only F100 .... its like ML paying for review and asking SPECIFICALLY review and talk about only F100

[@Audioholics]

I wonder why you ASSume a conspiracy where none exists. We are getting the first pair of F200s in for review shortly as well as a pair of the B100s.