PTSD and its Role in Fibromyalgia

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Fibromyalgia is a common condition, that lacks a gold standard treatment. Studies have shown that medications are often minimally effective, and that simple interventions like exercise may be of more benefit. Tremendous confusion surrounds the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia, for both doctors and patients.
The three major underlying "triggers" of fibromyalgia include stress, inflammation, and small fiber peripheral neuropathy. In our clinical experience, as well as the literature, a significant percentage of fibromyalgia patients have been exposed to horrific circumstances, and the long lasting effects of this stress in the form of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) are important to not only recognize, but also to use as a tool in the aim of helping the Fibromyalgia patient improve.
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[@lesleysears9808]

Love you guys. I was abused by my mother as a child. I have fibromyalgia, Hashimotos, Sjogren’s Syndrome, arthritis. I am a registered nurse and you two know more than anyone I know. Wish your videos were a requirement for all medical schools. We need to re-name fibromyalgia to something else.

[@maryrhudy615]

OMG!!! You gentlemen have discussed so many things that I suffer from. I was sexually and physically abused over several years as a child, plus being bullied and tormented throughout my childhood and on into adulthood. I was also raped as an adult. So YES! I have PTSD, also anxiety attacks, self-harming behavior, headaches, etc. THANK YOU for letting me know I'm not crazy.

[@aliciahaley113]

I have PTSD and Fibromyalgia. My former doctor did not believe that Fibromyalgia exists. My neurologist and new GP diagnosed it. The meds Lyrica and Cymbalta caused allergic reactions, and I do not ask for pain killers. Changing my diet to gluten-free has decreased my daily pain significantly. Tylenol and Flexeril are my only diversions from pain. I would not wish this condition upon anyone.

[@janicetelfer6211]

After a bad car accident for pain I tried lyrica, cymbalta and I took amatriptaline and nortriptyline and it caused congestive heart failure From being allergic to it. It's been a night mare for me too. I do find diet helps. I eat good now for my heart and for fibro. I don't wish this on anyone. Like you I don't take any meds anymore. I am allergic to steroid injections I found out too the hard way. So no more meds for this gal!! Lol hugs to you fellow warrior 😊

[@SuzannePowell-fb6lw]

Yes yes you guys are so right ,thank you finally some one makes sense I dident think I could go on ,I have all symptoms you have mentioned I have been diagnosed with all of it but no help in Australia doctors gust glaze over and say we don't give out drugs like that's what we are looking for

[@terrihomer992]

Fibromyalgia , truth , Doctors , keep up the Great Work . PTSD , Thyroid problems , arthritis , all of which is mentioned . IBS too .

[@marywolfe7293]

I had an emotionally neglectful childhood, an abusive husband financially, spiritually, and emotionally. I had numerous operations and no real support system. I keep praying to God for the answers because doctors seem to be pill happy and don't really understand. God bless you both.

[@heathersolomon6108]

I have been diagnosed with ptsd as well as fibromyalgia and this video is so insightful! I have such a clearer understanding of WHY my body reacts the way it does.......so grateful for your post..... feeling blessed 💜

[@KelleyNielsenSalticidSoft]

This really helps clarify my situation. I had those unfortunate childhood experiences, but my fibromyalgia didn't kick in until the last days of my osteoarthritis. It was affecting my life in my mid 20's, but my doctors didn't take it seriously. They approached it as a combination of poor posture, attention seeking, and self pity. So I struggled with pain and stigma for ten years. Even today, it's tempting (even to me) to tell the story of "You got the surgery, quit whining" instead of as "your nervous system underwent a decade of habituation to high alert status."

[@damselfly8]

You are the only two people who are explaining ALL OF THIS to me. I have PTSD, Hashimoto's and FM. Wish I could afford you. Thank you for posting.

[@robandcheryls]

Im a VET with fibromyalgia. I suffered from TBI, I cannot describe all the pain together.

[@glynnisthomas9165]

Thank you for your service! 🇺🇲. I need no description, I think I got it. God bless you a lot. I'm praying for us.

[@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395]

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[@traceytansley1659]

Thank you Doctors for helping me to understand the correlation between my PTSD and fairly recently developed Fibromyalgia. More videos please on what we can do to deal with this since, for location reasons, we all cannot visit your practice.

[@DrMartinRutherford]

We did a series called Functional Medicine Back to Basics that may help. It is on our channel here. We also work with patients remotely if you are interested you can find out more here powerhealthconsult.com

[@traceytansley1659]

Thank you Dr. Rutherford for getting back to me. I did not see your reply until now. I will look into your programs further. MUCH APPRECIATED! !!

[@duvessabella]

This makes so much sense to me. After my mother passed away last year i started having all the horrible painful symptoms of Fibro. I was told i had PTSD and i am now going through tests but my Dr. is pretty sure i have Fibro. Thanks for this! I don;t feel like im losing my mind now.

[@victoriamayo5774]

I was shot twice and human trafficked at age 16, I have fibro, pheriphal neuropathy and ptsd. Now I understand

[@DrMartinRutherford]

Glad it was able to help you understand.

[@lizwilson7437]

I get so aggravated because alot of people dont really think fibromyalgia is a real condition and those same people also think that only soldiers are able to get PTSD and know matter how much I try aand explain the pain I actually feel peolpe always tell me its all in my head and I just need to get over it

[@drutter]

What an excellent presentation! One of your most important. PTSD and fibromyalgia are both poorly understood related disorders and you tied it together expertly in this talk. Thank you!

[@karlsie]

Glad I found you. I survived a civil war as a child, separation from my father who was my only protector, and prolonged physical and emotional abuse from my mother and her family. I developed fibromyalgia five years ago, but had stomach and pelvic pain since childhood. Thank you for sharing your work.

[@Donna777]

I love you guys! You are the true healers. I love your videos and appreciate so much that you are willing to put them for free so that we may learn and benefit from your great knowledge. Thank you for your work - may God bless you all the days of your lives. I sure wish I lived closer to your clinic because I would be there in a heart beat. Unfortunately I am in Minnesota.

[@marywolfe7293]

Dont worry about the naysayers. All of us who suffer know that it is real and I do have PTSD also. Keep speaking the truth and helping people better understand the condition.

[@TanyaPetrena]

Im so glad I came across this presentation. I definitely have Complex PTSD and your link makes sense. I have been suffering over 20 yrs. I have every kind of abuse since childhood onwards. Suffered abuse 47 yrs. Thank you validating what I have gone and continuing to deal with. I wish there were experts like you in the UK.

[@alicemccabe9855]

The fact that you two are so incredibly caring discussing this issue is so refreshing. I've dealt with so many doctors who ignored my pain but didnt even broach the subject of potential trauma (i have a high ACEs score and a lot of trauma) before making me feel insane for saying my pin levels were as high as they are

[@SuzannePowell-fb6lw]

I have had cpts fybromyalgia chronic fatigue for over 30yrs my life is almost shut down,listen to you guys you are right and very helpful thank you

[@RceeChaske]

This makes so much sense.

[@Bichonfrise369]

I live 12 years on civil war a lot of abuse in my childhood. PTSD + Lupus+ Fibro So much pain.

[@GetReal72]

Dr Rutherford and Gates, this video on Fibromyalgia I watched today is the best information I've ever heard. I try to blank it but watching this I know I can't, as it's affecting me more than I realize. I've had so much other stuff going on it gets put on the back burner. I'm sending you an evaluation form. So glad you do telemed visits. I've had it since about 1993 when they Really thought you were crazy! Was diagnosed at Mayo in Jacksonville FL. Talk soon!

[@melissaleak7241]

Thank you Dr. Gates and Dr. Rutherford for the clear insight on this condition that is multipronged difficult to get straight answers from regular physicians. You guys rock!!!!

[@lizwilson7437]

I have fibromyalgia and ptsd I was diagnosed back in 2009

[@joycehewitt7648]

Stress big I was working bad Retired feeling Dr told me 30 tender points. got try to help yourself Don't go in a deep sleep I Was a Foster Care I Am 70 went for help.

[@joycehewitt7648]

I work ask my Dr can some work some don't he said Insurance ask him.

[@joanncoopertroupe3506]

Ty Doctors!! I have Suffered many years!! The PTSD and Thyroid, Issues, Fibro,Etc, is all .so real!! Fibro is No Joke!! i am Glad i found Ya'll. Happy New Year Docs!! 2022,, wished we had More Drs like Ya'll..

[@danielleohia5707]

That's my fibromyalgia.. PTSD. Thank you best information ever.. well explained

[@joanncoopertroupe3506]

I hope ya'll keep making these videos

[@strawberryfields1772]

I just subscribed! Good job guys...great insight n great videos! Thank you very much. You are making a difference

[@victoriamayo5774]

I appreciate you

[@VersusVS1980]

dude has the biggest hands ive ever seen damn

[@karlsie]

Explains the reason for my hand and foot pain too!!

[@joanncoopertroupe3506]

Even a bath cloth hurts my skin . Its crazy. My thyroid is dead.

[@shahilagh]

You didn’t say fibro and it’s challenges can cause PTSD

[@glynnisthomas9165]

That actually makes sense. The horrific pain on a daily constant basis could also turn ptsd into complex ptsd. I'm no doctor so my words are perfectly worthless, but it does seem to me to be a good possibility.

[@lesleysears9808]

Fibroneuralgia is my new name for the old fibromyalgia term!

[@evilgenius88]

Very interesting, do you do anything to reduce this "stuck" flight or flight reaction, do you see any success to reactivate that frontal lobe activity with your stress modulation training?

[@DrMartinRutherford]

Thank you for the message. We have seen that by activating particular areas of the frontal lobe, PTSD symptoms have improved in patients we have selected for treatment. We also address underlying biochemical factors that interfere with frontal lobe function.

[@DrMartinRutherford]

Thank you for the message. We have seen that by activating particular areas of the frontal lobe, PTSD symptoms have improved in patients we have selected for treatment. We also address underlying biochemical factors that interfere with frontal lobe function.

[@trickynicky2118]

I have similar symptoms to fibromyalgia following surgery. I already had CPTSD prior to surgery, not officially diagnosed a counsellor just mentioned it sounded like this. I went to a neurologist yesterday, he asked me all about my childhood which was pretty traumatic. I appreciate people making these mind/body connection but I do think the neurologist needed more training in understanding trauma. I felt re-traumatised by him bringing up the memories then simply leaving it and moving onto physical symptoms. It resulted in me having terrible nightmares last night and recalling torture from my so called mother and grandmother when I was two. I don't think it is appropriate for a health professional to raise an issue then leave it. I felt it was highly irresponsible actually but I guess the assessment was holistic, never mind it acted as a major trigger to me. I also believe that recognising the influence of prior trauma is important but shouldn't be taken out of current environmental context. I had the same miserable childhood before my surgery but I was still active, able to walk, shop, drive and dance. Now I am wheelchair bound with a full time carer. The key variable is the surgery, not the childhood trauma, irrespective of how my nervous system was biologically primed to react negatively to the trauma of surgery.

[@DeniseWilkinson-b2f]

You guys are fabulous 😍 I've been following you for years, but never put a comment before. I developed fibromyalgia and PTSD from an ex boyfriend who mentally, verbally, emotionally and psychologically abused me 😭 I often feel cross wires in my brain and feel like I am going cross eyed, making reading difficult for me nowadays. Is there any way I can try and manage this symptom? Thanks very much for all of your advice and research ❤

[@micheleblais636]

I need help...have been sick like this for years but never have had help with it

[@beckymoore2401]

I am in Birmingham Alabama. Are there any doctors in my area that do the kind of work that you do for fibromyalgia patients? Thanks.

[@DrMartinRutherford]

The short answer to your question is we unfortunately don't know of anyone in your area. The longer answer is that we have married two disciplines (functional medicine and chiropractic neurology) to put together what we feel is the most comprehensive program for chronic problems available today. While there are others who claim to do similar treatments we have not met any who practice exactly how we do and have made referrals in the past where the results were less than stellar. We have patients that we have worked with from all over the world. If you would like to find out how you can schedule a consultation with Dr. Rutherford to go over you particular case you can find out more at powerhealthreno.com/brochure

[@victoriamayo5774]

Thank you for all your great info

[@BroomStik123]

I have pretty bad ptsd, and fibromyalgia to.. hmm maybe this relates to me.

[@pattigeorge1359]

Where is your clinic located?

[@catherinecoppin7665]

thankyou for vidio. cant wait. to a cure foundx

[@SuzannePowell-fb6lw]

You guys no more than any gp doc i have ever been to suffered over 30 yrs Australia is so backward they dont no very much at all,think we are crazy,i dont go near doctors right now i cant take any more negativity from them.

[@mandyporras07]

I got fibromyalgia first.