Marvel Cancel Awful Spider-Man Comic For Good

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@vortechx7176
@vortechx7176 3 ай бұрын
if paul isn't dead by the end of the run then so help me
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 3 ай бұрын
How would you kill Paul if you had the chance?
@vortechx7176
@vortechx7176 3 ай бұрын
@@vorpalinferno9711 oh jeez so many options. defiantly something slow.
@djpegao
@djpegao 3 ай бұрын
Trapping on a fixed time loop when he has to watch the whole Spider-Man run where he married MJ and had their daughter and no matter what he does he'll always dies and rebirns to see the whole thing over again so he realises he never had a chance​@@vorpalinferno9711
@kingdon7795
@kingdon7795 3 ай бұрын
​@@vorpalinferno9711I would have someone like carnage kill Paul just for the lols lol 😂😭
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 3 ай бұрын
@@vortechx7176 Quartering? or the Brazen Bull?
@devanbarrios9216
@devanbarrios9216 3 ай бұрын
I'm still shocked that Marvel allowed Mary Jane to date a guy who committed planetary genocide and gave him the Nuremberg Defense to try to justifie his actions. This run has been absolutely dogshit and I'm still not even sure if that describes it perfectly. Glad this run is ending.
@zikonrokarminrot636
@zikonrokarminrot636 3 ай бұрын
And then also had comic Mj take on the cheating s**t that Kristen Stewart’s character was. Seriously, she cheated on EVERYONE she was dating in ALL THREE movies.
@samuelrodriguez9801
@samuelrodriguez9801 2 ай бұрын
Planetary Genocide?!
@devanbarrios9216
@devanbarrios9216 2 ай бұрын
@@samuelrodriguez9801 yes. And Nick Lowe and Zeb Wells had the gall to say that it was comparable to when Peter let the burglar go.
@samuelrodriguez9801
@samuelrodriguez9801 2 ай бұрын
@@devanbarrios9216 Paul committed Planetary Genocide?
@devanbarrios9216
@devanbarrios9216 2 ай бұрын
@@samuelrodriguez9801 yes
@АнтонРычков-щ5в
@АнтонРычков-щ5в 3 ай бұрын
Nick Spencer didn't fail to make a name for himself as Spider-Man writer. At least not due to his own faults. His run was well-written if somewhat overstretched. But in reality, his run was screwed by the higher-ups, because Spencer wanted to undo One more day and was right in the middle of it when Cebulski, Lowe and their ilk stepped in. Man had his own story ruined completely. No wonder he left Marvel for Substack.
@RamManNo1
@RamManNo1 3 ай бұрын
Except for Boomerang being all chums with Pete. That was some dumb f0cking sh*t. Boomerang has been portrayed as a criminal who won’t hesitate to kill in cold blood for like 40 years. Then all the sudden he’s just Petes annoying roommate and Pete’s fine with that? Why didn’t Spencer just create a new character for that role? Spencer isn’t much better a writer than Wells actually. People just go gaga wanting to see Pete and MJ kiss all the time. Slott was actually good until World Wide(he took that way too far)and that crap clone conspiracy.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 3 ай бұрын
Spencer turned Captain American into a Nazi. Hard to trust someone after that
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
Spencer is a hero for me because he erased Sins Of Past out of canon.
@Tyler_W
@Tyler_W 3 ай бұрын
I was as shocked as anyone that he turned out a pretty solid Spider-Man run for a while after what he did with his Captain America run. I was convinced that he was going to do to Peter what he did with Steve and Sam, but I was happily proven wrong. Marvel and Spider-Man editorial just don't know how to make smart decisions. I may not have liked the way he did it, but I can at least appreciate erasing Sins Past. I'd very much like for them to beg Spencer to come back, right the ship, do what he originally planned to do, give actual fans what they want from Peter, and then move forward. I don't expect that, though, because editorial at Marvel across the board insists on cutting off their nose to spite their face. God forbid they actually listen to their audience instead of sneering at them for a change...
@Calmoose415
@Calmoose415 3 ай бұрын
At least he retconned Sin’s Past. I count that as a win.
@jonnjones8263
@jonnjones8263 3 ай бұрын
I dropped Marvel a long time ago. This isn't good news. Their greatest character is already destroyed. And Marvel's incompetent writers refuse to fix him.
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 3 ай бұрын
How is their greatest character destroyed?
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw 3 ай бұрын
@@trevturp6891 being a miserable, single, broke and a complete loser who never learns
@spencerpommier806
@spencerpommier806 3 ай бұрын
I mean people are loving ultimate Spider-Man
@drunkencowboyagni
@drunkencowboyagni 3 ай бұрын
​@@spencerpommier806ultimate Spider-Man is like the one time marvel actually gave us what we want. And they are gonna fuck it up, you just know it.
@neoramaredzone8544
@neoramaredzone8544 Ай бұрын
@@drunkencowboyagniUltimate Spider-Man’s good, Immortal Hulk is good. Most of the Krakoa X-Men stuff is good. Fantastic 4 is good.
@donovanlarsen7982
@donovanlarsen7982 3 ай бұрын
At this point, I believe that not only Spider-Man, but even most of his supporting cast have all become either bastardized or bland versions of themselves. Peter’s incompetence grows steadily more and more. Mary Jane is a THOT. May is irrelevant. Otto can’t decide whether he wants to be Doc Ock or Spider-Man. Ben Reilly has literally been fumbled harder than I thought feasibly possible. TWICE. Norman is extremely basic and predictable. With their recent fumbling of Hickman’s X-Men, I have lost all interest, and more importantly: faith, in Earth-616, as X-Men has proven to me that character progression is fleeting and illusionary in the main Marvel Universe.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
Moderns writers just don't care about the support characters.
@mr.protagonist5639
@mr.protagonist5639 2 ай бұрын
Its funny marvel needs a crisis. just reset all this bullshit they had happen to peter and mj past omd. Just say the stories that were actually popular sorta happened but not always the same way and let peter grow as a person again.
@donovanlarsen7982
@donovanlarsen7982 2 ай бұрын
@@mr.protagonist5639 That’s what DC did with New 52, but they backtracked on that, almost completely and even went out of their way to Retcon nearly everything notable to come out of it as well. There’s no point if Marvel is just going to back track, which we know it will.
@sosmooth13
@sosmooth13 2 ай бұрын
Please don’t mention how they butchered the layup that was the Krakoan era of X-Men. The storytelling and setup was so beautiful, all for it to come crashing down hard.
@plastikloser
@plastikloser 3 ай бұрын
The whole "what did spiderman do ?" thing was dumb. He attacked his friends to get the things he needed to save MJ, when all he had to say was i need it for MJ and it would have been cool.
@djpegao
@djpegao 3 ай бұрын
Everyone was so OOC on that arc that it was infuriating
@TGPDrunknHick
@TGPDrunknHick 2 ай бұрын
even if Spidey didn't ask, (let's face it he's done dumber things before) I doubt they'd hold it against when they caught up and figured out what he did it for.
@josephbarbera9220
@josephbarbera9220 3 ай бұрын
Zeb biggest mistake was trying to set-up a storyline with a weird flashback and then try to explain the events leading to present time. It never quite fell into place and seem very disjointed. I never felt Spider-Man didn’t do anything egregious. The plot simply fell apart. Zeb should have avoided the flashback step-up and trust in his writing skills to start a story from the beginning not in the midddle.
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 3 ай бұрын
I will give zeb credit for one thing he did in his spider man run. He did create Probably the most evil villain marvel has ever created… Paul.
@TECH097
@TECH097 2 ай бұрын
I will NOT have you slander the good name of the REAL hero of this series, The Paul-Tacular Spider-Paul uwu
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 2 ай бұрын
@@TECH097 😂
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 2 ай бұрын
@@TECH097 if you love Paul so much then answer this...if you had a son would you name it after him? 😂
@TECH097
@TECH097 2 ай бұрын
@@Superpooch97 DUH of COURSE Id name him Paul Jr., I renamed MYSELF Paul for him! uwu
@marcosdheleno
@marcosdheleno 2 ай бұрын
to be fair, that wasnt even the first time it happened to peter. so you know, those who dont learn from history...
@ericbreen4340
@ericbreen4340 3 ай бұрын
Congratulations to Zeb Wells for making me not Care even less about In Continuity Spider man than I did during Dan Slott's Run . Which is Not at all .
@niccoloproia3678
@niccoloproia3678 3 ай бұрын
The problem i have with Wells' Tombstone is the fact that it's so clear that Wells copied the characterization from the Spectacular Spider-man cartoon. The problem is that isn't Tombstone. In the series the team wanted to use Kingpin but they couldn't so they decided to use another gangster type of villain from Spider-man's rogue's gallery: Tombstone. Lonnie is supposed to be more of a street gangster, an unhinged maniacal bastard and not a cold and rational mob boss
@blujay1524
@blujay1524 3 ай бұрын
Spider-Man died in 2004 and has never recovered.
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 3 ай бұрын
Why 2004?
@snarferyasmr3739
@snarferyasmr3739 3 ай бұрын
One more day I assume, thats when it died for me.
@davidfarrington4308
@davidfarrington4308 3 ай бұрын
More like 1984 when he brought a brain eating alien home from space. That was the first in a long line of decisions that were out of character for Peter Parker, including making a deal with the Devil.
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 3 ай бұрын
@@davidfarrington4308 He was still in classic tales with the black costume. .
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 3 ай бұрын
@@snarferyasmr3739 One More Day was 2007
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 3 ай бұрын
Too little too late. They should have ended this awful run a long time ago.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
I fear that nobody in Marvel can write a decent Spider-man run in these days.
@louiscyphre6021
@louiscyphre6021 3 ай бұрын
^ Ultimate Spider-Man is going good.
@grkpektis
@grkpektis 3 ай бұрын
I think this run has been a complete disaster but it's not all Zeb's fault, the morons at Marvel refuse to let Spider-man ever marry MJ again and they needed this stupid storyline/ Paul to make sure it completely ruins their relationship after the last writer almost got away with retconning OMD. So pathetic
@robinmohamedally7587
@robinmohamedally7587 3 ай бұрын
but-but....the kids....who never buy comics, anyway.....would start buying Spider-man if he's not married, because they are incapable of relating to a married character! Oh....what's that...? He hasn't been married in 20 years, and it still didn't change sales for the better? Oh.
@djpegao
@djpegao 3 ай бұрын
*Ultimate Spider-Man who's married, is over 30 and has 2 kids:* _Pfffft, amateur...._
@karaoconnoraliasraidra
@karaoconnoraliasraidra 3 ай бұрын
Marvel Comics: The readers don’t want a hero who’s married and has a family! Numerous vocal fans: Bring back Peter & MJ’s marriage and Mayday Parker! Marvel Comics: Well, we’d better do our best to keep Peter single since no one wants him to be married with a family!
@VerdeMorte
@VerdeMorte Ай бұрын
@@grkpektis Did you know Paul is Zeb's self insert?
@joshjones9749
@joshjones9749 3 ай бұрын
Omd/Bnd was like a mandate to make Peter Parker a worse character all around and he never quite recovered.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
Yes everything was lame after OMD.
@jasonirizarry9619
@jasonirizarry9619 3 ай бұрын
Ed Mcguinness was given kindergarten tales to illustrate, it was pure shit.
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 3 ай бұрын
Well the story was terrible for no reason and Romita jr's art is usually a hit & miss. We're tired of these Miserable Spider-Man stories that leads to nowhere.😢
@garywillig5143
@garywillig5143 3 ай бұрын
There's something about the Spider-Man editorial that saps the talent from writers. Wells' New Mutants and Hellions are 2 of the best X-Men runs this century, and the latter was written under Jordan White. It was also in the Spider-Man books that Jed Mackay wrote his worst book, that terrible Mary Jane and Black Cat Dark Web tie-in.
@robinmohamedally7587
@robinmohamedally7587 3 ай бұрын
i thought his Hellions was written like silly zoomer girly shit.
@robinmohamedally7587
@robinmohamedally7587 3 ай бұрын
Mackay has always been mid.
@sosmooth13
@sosmooth13 2 ай бұрын
Trying to balance a character like Spider-Man so that he appears relatable and grounded like the rest of us isn’t easy. But bleeding away a character’s happiness and making them suffer the whole time at the hands of loved ones or their own uncharacteristic choices, does absolutely no favors as well.
@addex1236
@addex1236 3 ай бұрын
Why dose Marvel keep insisting that people give a rats ass about Kamala Kaugh
@patrickmel8728
@patrickmel8728 3 ай бұрын
The worst run, no... but its bad
@luchomscyfy
@luchomscyfy 3 ай бұрын
Opposing to.....? Tom DeFalco?
@robinmohamedally7587
@robinmohamedally7587 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, i thought JMS was also pretty bad.
@robinmohamedally7587
@robinmohamedally7587 3 ай бұрын
and the convoluted clone shit.
@VolkswagenGamer
@VolkswagenGamer 3 ай бұрын
I liked the early JMS, JR JR had more energy in his panels back then
@luchomscyfy
@luchomscyfy 3 ай бұрын
@@robinmohamedally7587 Sins past.....but it was all the fault of Quesada. The same for One More Day. All Joe Quesada's ideas.
@colesonlamb5981
@colesonlamb5981 3 ай бұрын
I think we definitely need to blame JRJR for some of how bad this run is as well. He's an iconic artist, but at this point in his career he might be one of the 10 worst artists doing an ongoing book. If they had a competent artist you might have been able to distract people from how awful the story was, but with him drawing everything about the book sucked
@Anchor1981
@Anchor1981 3 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more! It needed someone like Marco Chechetto…I’d like to see Lorenzo Tametta on art duties!
@danalvin1184
@danalvin1184 3 ай бұрын
Romita Jr. peaked mid-Copper era on Uncanny and that was 35 years ago or more smh
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
So glad that garbage is ending. Tombstone was the only one good thing in this run. Everything else sucks in every sense. Ms. Marvel death,Chasm,MJ engaged with Paul,Dark Web,The Gang War and SpiderGoblin. So lame. But who can write a good Spider-man run in nowadays in Marvel?Hickman?Ryan North?Jed Mckay? I'm so afraid that the next writer can make erverything worse.
@nomen-l7r
@nomen-l7r 3 ай бұрын
Peter does not need to get back with mj or black cat put him with someone new Cindy or spidergwen but doesn't matter not coming back until someone new owns everything and reboot everything hard or they have to fix everything and give a bunch of good runs
@animal-rights
@animal-rights 3 ай бұрын
Spider-Gwen is love interest of Miles
@nomen-l7r
@nomen-l7r 3 ай бұрын
@animal-rights No
@patrickmel8728
@patrickmel8728 3 ай бұрын
15 min mark.... go against all of your instincts... had me rolling 😂😂😂
@BoudewijnPiet
@BoudewijnPiet 3 ай бұрын
Just don't get our hopes up dat Peter and Maryjane will get back togheter.
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 3 ай бұрын
We're nearly there thankfully. Worst comic book run I've ever read.
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut 3 ай бұрын
That you think Marvel will get a better writer or just better... The Eternal Optimist, Wes.
@matthewschwartz6607
@matthewschwartz6607 3 ай бұрын
The Hobgoblin and Vulture stories were kind of good and fun, too.
@eagleal
@eagleal 3 ай бұрын
It really has been a poor run. I jumped off about 15 issues back, I can't stand my favourite character stagnating and going nowhere with continual poor storylines. Oh for the good old days of the full Spidey supporting cast and all the drama (and growth even) that it gave you. Marvel editorials stance on the whole Peter/MJ thing truly is baffling, especially given DC moved on with Superman and Batman and allowed both to have kids. I do love Ultimate Spider-Man now, and for exactly the reason that it gives you what you want and feels like it has substance. Joshua Williamson I wonder on Spidey, given his DC announcement?
@369destroyer
@369destroyer 3 ай бұрын
Im half expecting the final twist to be thst Paul was Mephisto in disguise the entire time....
@darkfenix1516
@darkfenix1516 3 ай бұрын
Nick Lowe is the problem. They will bring Dan Slott for the 1000 time or Tini Howard. 😂😂😂
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 3 ай бұрын
Or Leah Williams. Because she’s soooo funny.
@kalkella8822
@kalkella8822 3 ай бұрын
I avoided Dan Slott like the plague for the longest time because everyone said his run was so bad, but I recently went back and read parts of his run and the original superior Spider-Man and I have to say, I don't really understand the issue everyone has with it. With the exception of the Parker Industries stuff, I had an awful lot of fun with it. It's miles better than any Spidey run I've read since I got back into comics which was around the start of the Spencer run.
@RamManNo1
@RamManNo1 3 ай бұрын
@@kalkella8822 Absolutley agree. Slots run was great until he went overboard with the global bs. It was a bit too far. He should’ve kept the business small. And the premise could’ve worked better. Clone conspiracy sucked too. But over all Slott is actually a much better writer than Spencer or Wells.
@valiantparagonvideos2383
@valiantparagonvideos2383 3 ай бұрын
While there's technically still time to undo it, if he doesn't his ruination of MJ will overshadow any dumb tombstone story he told. Robbing Peter of any chance of happiness by making his soulmate not actually love him, essentially have an affair, and leave him for another man damages her character to such an extent being ok with Tombstone isn't going to compare.
@JP-eo8zw
@JP-eo8zw 2 ай бұрын
Can you tell me about why MJ broke up with Peter and how she had an affair? I keep seeing Paul and dont know anything about this run
@valiantparagonvideos2383
@valiantparagonvideos2383 2 ай бұрын
@@JP-eo8zw Short version, Pete and MJ were moving in together when Rabin attacked. He sent them to another dimension where they meet Paul. Peter finishes a device Paul was working on to go back to their dimension, but it only has enough power for one. He gives it to MJ, but before she can use it Rabin's god Wayep attacks, and to save Peter MJ puts the device on him and uses it. Peter notices that time passed more quickly in the other dimension (one week there was only a day in the 616), and in a rush works with Norman Osborn, steals from the FF, and hits Cap America to finish as soon as possible. He finishes within a couple day or weeks (it's not clear because the story is bad), goes back to the other dimension, and MJ has gotten with Paul while he was away. It's revealed that he was gone for nearly four years in her time, and within 11 months she starts a relationship with Paul. Once Peter saves her, she leaves him officially for Paul. I say "essentially" an affair because it's not functionally different, but some people object to it. She couldn't break up with Peter because her and Peter were separated, but she does start the relationship with Paul prior to telling Peter she's leaving him. She has no reason for leaving him other than her relationship with Paul, she just chooses him over Peter. This is why everyone objects, because it's telling the reader that MJ's love for Peter is unimportant and unspecial. She just falls in love with someone else and leaves him. Some people try to claim the fake children (don't ask it's not worth the ffort) she had adopted in the other dimension were why she stayed with Paul, but raising kids doesn't require her to sleep with Paul to begin with, Peter would have accepted those kids if she wanted him, and months and months have passed since the kids were deleted and she's both still with Paul and reaffirmed to Peter that she "moved on" from him. The Short short answer: MJ was left alone with Paul a long time, started a relationship with him and decided she loved him more than Peter. Which is a bullshit OOC character assassination.
@JP-eo8zw
@JP-eo8zw 2 ай бұрын
@@valiantparagonvideos2383 Bro, thats a garbage script really, he didnt need to steal as i seen it, if he knows Cap and the FF, he could have access to the top minds and tech to save his girl. Besides, thats a really jerk move to force MJ to move on. She really just started a affair knowing Peter would come back desperate for saving her. Its no different from a wife leaving her husband while he serves in a war.
@valiantparagonvideos2383
@valiantparagonvideos2383 2 ай бұрын
@@JP-eo8zw There's a reason I consider it worse than OMD. Because yeah, it's total garbage that completely ruins MJ. Your analogy to a soldier at war has been made before and remains basically accurate. In fairness, Reed was out of town so Johnny and Ben wouldn't let Peter take what he needed, and Cap wanted to question Peter because Paul shoved the dead God (the god was killed by the portal device that sent Peter back opening a huge portal, no explanation as to why Paul and/or MJ didn't go through the portal instead) through the portal and it exploded, so Peter buried his suit because his mask was torn for....reasons.... Look explaining the story is difficult because it's terrible and full of plot holes and contrivance, you got the basic gist correct. Garbage, character assassinates MJ, must be undone.
@JP-eo8zw
@JP-eo8zw 2 ай бұрын
@@valiantparagonvideos2383 The story being so difficult to tell is proof that its really ill thought. Honestly, like i said, its a very forced way to separate the couple The point about the God body is so stupid, so its Paul fault that people hate Peter, another red flag from this slimy character.
@ambushbob5383
@ambushbob5383 3 ай бұрын
Marvel: dont go to cons everyone will hate you for killing this character. Kills Ms. Marvel Everyone: (collective shrug)
@gorillashop337
@gorillashop337 3 ай бұрын
Good riddance! I hated his entire run, the only Spider line I’m buying is the Ultimate line. 😮
@snarferyasmr3739
@snarferyasmr3739 3 ай бұрын
Having Tombstone as a main baddie.... dude move on. The spidey books got me back when they put Ben Reilly on the cover, then F'd him over.... just bad after bad.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
Ben is a villain now.
@spideyboy2358
@spideyboy2358 3 ай бұрын
From the mischaracterization,Paul,breaking up mj and Peter,plots points either having disappointing endings or just being uninteresting, and especially the nerfing and making Peter a weak bitch losing to fucking vulture and almost every fight spidey has been in he is constantly almost dying to d-listers when he should be way way stronger he been able to beat a-listers with ease consistently through his history this run will forever be a stain on spider-man’s legacy and I can’t wait to see zeb not be able to get on book because of how dogshit his run on asm has been.
@brianerickson6775
@brianerickson6775 3 ай бұрын
After listening to your monologue, I'm not hopefull. A broken clock is right twice a day. Marvel seems incapable of being competent once a year.
@VerdeMorte
@VerdeMorte 3 ай бұрын
How I'd give the Z.Wells series "closure:" Who's Paul? Oh, he was a Skrull, and the kids were LMD robots. *"Oh no! Anyways..."*
@VerdeMorte
@VerdeMorte Ай бұрын
(PS: Her Slots Luck powers are fueled by tortured human souls, captured from the reality where Paul and his daddy g3n0c1d3d an entire planet, simply because they could. And every time she's used it, someone's soul gets horrifically erased, damned to eternal oblivion.)
@Konnik92
@Konnik92 3 ай бұрын
Two and a half years, WASTED ... nuff said.
@d_3634
@d_3634 2 ай бұрын
I think the biggest sin is that Paul is a super genius who also helped destroy the planet. Yet despite all that he is a boring character with 0 personality. I'd go as far as to say he isn't even a character. He's a plot device solely used to break up MJ and Peter, and once it was revealed how and why it happened he lost everything noteworthy about his character.
@maciekmysliwczyk5540
@maciekmysliwczyk5540 3 ай бұрын
Thank god this nightmare is over. Now if Marvel really wants to bring back readers for a new run on Spider-man they need to hire someone like Peter J. Tomasi , Joshua Williamson , Ryan Parrott, Kyle Higgins or Dan Jurgens who can make this recent run non-canon and start from clean slate. But will that happen ? Who knows. Other than that Wes , I don't know if you're a gamer but Capcom just announced Marvel vs Capcom fighting collection which includes all the beat em ups that crossed both companies from X-men Children of the Atom to Marvel vs Capcom 2 New age of Heroes. And what could be better than this ? Oh how about a sweet blood drenched cherry on top of delicious cake. And BTW that particular cherry just so happens to be THE Punisher. Yes , The Punisher is also included in that collection and I can hear millions of Punisher fans screeming with joy and excitement that they can finally play the cult classic beat em up as either the Punisher of the OG Nick Fury.
@32FONickweiser
@32FONickweiser 3 ай бұрын
I can't even imagine what it must be like to have read every issue of this run. I'm so glad i hopped off after the 1st arc.
@Jazzdumpling
@Jazzdumpling 3 ай бұрын
I stopped reading Spider-man after they did Ben Reilly such an injustice. I won’t read any more until his character is permanently redeemed and properly utilised as the hero he is.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 3 ай бұрын
Ben Really was ruined forever.There's no more hope to him anymore.
@mikewilson3581
@mikewilson3581 3 ай бұрын
My Peter Parker is in the backup story of The Amazing Spider Man # 248 from 1983.
@TheDoomsdayzoner
@TheDoomsdayzoner 3 ай бұрын
Zeb Welles is a talentless hack. We need to go back. Undo the Civil War, which was a massive character assassination. It made Peter dumb, it turned Tony into a tyrant, and others - into cardboard cutouts.
@thedevilsleutice
@thedevilsleutice 2 ай бұрын
Supes comics are dead. The last comic I remember being happy I bought is all pre 2018… The down fall of Marvel truly began when Marvel screwed Over capcom for MVCI. Sure there’s been some good things, but think about everything as a whole after 2019. Maybe it’s just me but the last comic run I read was Invincible cause I wasn’t expecting to wait 3 years for season 2 in 2021. Other than that it’s really old back issues of other comics.
@Goobergurl
@Goobergurl 2 ай бұрын
Im glad Im not the only one who doesn't like the Batman Who Laughs. He feels like some edgy fanfiction character that a teenager came up with. But no other character in comic books currently ticks me off more than Paul. I already hate the idea of another Peter Parker love triangle, but if you're gonna do it anyways at least make it interesting. Paul is just some bs contrived character that was made solely to create soap opera level drama! I'd be able to tolerate Paul if he was at the very least somewhat interesting, but he's not!!! Zeb Well's entire run is such an embarrassment. I'm glad I found you're channel. Just subscribed!
@atigerforever1
@atigerforever1 3 ай бұрын
David Michelinie, pleeeeeeeaaaaase....with JRJr as artist...At LEAST,he will be able to draw a more sensible story.
@LongDaysPleasantNights
@LongDaysPleasantNights 2 ай бұрын
This has been the most mean-spirited, disgusting treatment of a character as beloved as Spider-man I've ever seen. I don't think I've seen any other fictional character treated as poorly as he has in any other form of media This constant need to make spider-man weak and pathetic is telling of modern media's desire to do everything they can to make legacy characters pathetic shells of their former selves because they really do hate the fans. Thank God this utter hack is leaving, he absolutely won't be missed by anyone
@mjwp5447
@mjwp5447 3 ай бұрын
I doubt it will end in January It's been mentioned many times that Wells's run could be ending with issue #60, meaning, if true, October will be the final month of Zeb Wells. and the arc will really be issues #56-60, making it 5 issues. and while synical, I REALLY hope this final arc does away with "paul" and bring Peter and Mary Jane together, but I'm really having trouble seeing how it can be done, unless it has something to do with the three skull which we haven't seen yet. and I do have this theory that "paul", to fund Mary Jane being Jackpot, is selling his symboligy tech to criminals, because of what we saw in Gang War, and it will be bought to light during the final arc.
@chronicbackpain6047
@chronicbackpain6047 2 ай бұрын
If I... Was hired onto the Writing staff for this Run and was asked for ideas how to make it atleast marginally better. I'd have Paul be an Apostle or Vessel of Mephisto, trying to create a new Heir using Mary Jane and that's why he had the two split up in One More Day so he could slip in. Yeah, there would still be some problems but come on, Paul was already a Villain- If they were so adamant about keeping One More Day they may as well have tried using it some way. Have it revealed the reason why Spider-Man was getting beat by Vulture was because his power was being drained from the Contract still being active and Mephisto was just having a laugh at Pete as he suffered over and over so he wouldn't have time to think to investigate his and Mary's relationship further.
@TerryB01
@TerryB01 3 ай бұрын
Finally. Some good news.
@Supers0nic_1331
@Supers0nic_1331 2 ай бұрын
Thanos: Consider this a merciful end Spider-Man. *Snap's his fingers* Peter: ....Thank you
@ChrisP58
@ChrisP58 3 ай бұрын
Hallelujah! Zeb Can’t Write Wells is gone!… however I fear the replacement. It’s a twice a month title so hopefully this eliminates Dan Sloth(finger’s triple crossed).
@walmartbargainbin
@walmartbargainbin 2 ай бұрын
The only good thing about this run is that it ended.
@jimmyju76
@jimmyju76 3 ай бұрын
5 bucks says Well ends it by screwing Spider-Man up even worse
@jbourbon3734
@jbourbon3734 2 ай бұрын
1:00 It may also be because he didn't really want to draw this story run, so his heart just wasn't in it.
@sosmooth13
@sosmooth13 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if writers like Wells wakes up and sees how bad the reception is, and thinks “I won’t dwell on it” like everyone else in his position seems to do. I get that you can’t let criticism bother you too much, but that criticism is there for a good reason the majority of the time.
@lucifer-librarian9562
@lucifer-librarian9562 3 ай бұрын
Whooo, bring out the party poppers.
@iambutter2784
@iambutter2784 2 ай бұрын
GIVE SPIDERMAN TO THE WRITERS OF THE NEW ULTIMATE LINE
@raiderbear1
@raiderbear1 3 ай бұрын
Awesome work mate
@HiroshirouTavern
@HiroshirouTavern 2 ай бұрын
The true Spider-Man is in the current run of the 2.0 Ultimate Spider-Man, now that's the Spider-Man we want, not what they kept feeding us for years in the 616 main run.
@saiyan_spawn4204
@saiyan_spawn4204 3 ай бұрын
Another fight with Tombstone? Not interested. I hope it’s not someone like Ram V or Jed McKay that picks up for Wells.
@gaunterodimmmastermirrors72
@gaunterodimmmastermirrors72 3 ай бұрын
And like a recent skit I've seen by Solid JJ, I'm gonna say it: "Who the *bleep* is Paul?"
@obolstudios5154
@obolstudios5154 28 күн бұрын
I reviewed a video on this heap of doodoo and decided that this was no longer the cannon Spider-Man. I’m my head cannon day one doesn’t happen Spider-Man arrives on Paul’s planet except they all go into the portal and manage to stop Paul’s father from doing the godhood thing. After that Peter remains with MJ and Paul acts more like a brother to Peter since he didn’t steal MJ they act more like a good trio than everything. Together the 3 of them take down many villains green goblin gets stopped by Spider-Man King pin gets slapped by Spider-Man and Paul beats Tombstone into the ground for hurting Spidey as Mary Jane helps by becoming a hacker. However Paul’s dad manages to get back to the 616 universe and attack downtown New York. MJ tracks down Paul’s godhood father and Paul and Peter head to stop him. However during the fight Peter begins to feel a weird sensation a feeling he’s felt before and strangely enough it’s coming from Paul’s father. Paul begins to realise his father couldn’t have done this since yes he was a god but there’s no way even for a god he could have traveled between dimensions without…AN EXTERNAL FACTOR. Paul forces himself and his father into the portal he came out of with the portal closing with Peter not being able to follow. They both arrive on the barren world Paul once called home where he finally figures out what outside force was allowing his father to enter this universe it was Maphisto using Paul’s father’s body as a puppet. Before they fight Mephisto shows Paul a universe where he and MJ are married and have kids and he says he can give this all to Paul on a whim at the price of torturing Peter mentally. Paul stares at the offer…he observes…he thinks…he calculates the pros and cons of the deal and in response: he spits in the devils face follow by a punch. Mehpisto howls in rage and with one swipe launches Paul in building after building after Building the only thing keeping him a live was his super strength. Mephisto beats Paul into the ground smiling as his blood flew everywhere and in one large disgusting fist of blood and burnt skin he brought it down on Paul ending him. Spider-Man with the help of one of Paul’s devices he left back at his house which he left there think he didn’t need it makes it to the universe Paul and Mephisto are in. Spidey sees the lifeless Paul nothing more than a red putrid paste. Mephisto laughs every second of Spider-Man’s suffering a treat which never ends another friend lost to a force he couldn’t stop for he was Spider-Man and he can’t be everywhere at once. Spider-Man Paused and breathed heavily suddenly everything was a Blur to him and he spoke to the abominable creature. “You do this for nothing more than pleasure? You do this for the sweet tang which is my pain? That pang of joy which is a taste you love and never wish to leave you?” “Yes it’s a taste men could only imagine in their limited minds why?” “Because I wish I can break I wish I can just take of the gloves the web shooters everything just to feel that same feeling but ill never feel that” “And why not?” “Because I’m Spider-Man and Spider-Man doesn’t kill or enjoy the thrill of taking a life but here now…” Spider-Man removed his mask and replaced it with his black suit letting it rap on him it enveloped him up until his face the only thing visible. “But here now Spider-Man died on this day because there is so much he could handle and now you don’t fight Spider-Man *you fight Peter Parker”* In that moment Spider-Man disappeared from the devil’s few a sharp feeling of fear cut the devil’s soul he no longer felt pleasure felt fear. Just then a fist with force he could never have imaged the weight of it hit him the blow breaking his jaw and ripping arteries everywhere. Mephisto screamed like a scared child who underestimated their parent kindness for weakness he threw buildings as a blur moved in the corner of his eye. He tried to move only for an another devastating punch hit him again in the back he screamed as bone and flesh ripped themselves from him from the blow he fell on his back and pleaded. “I’ll reverse the contract! No strings no traps you can have your marriage back everything EVERYTHING IM NOT LYING!” *”do it”* The devil did it so many memories returned MJ and Peter stood still frozen so many memories sacrificed for a woman who wished to see her beloved again. Mephisto crawled away the deal fair and square only for a pipe to be jammed through him. “But I filled my end of the deal!” “Remember what you did in that ally way then that ROOM *DO YOU REMEMBER?!”* “What?” “The deal you added your own little twist I’m just filling MY end of the bargain as well” With that the pipe was logged into Mephisto’s heart ending him. Decades later in a calm grave yard lay the gravestones of Uncle Ben and beside it Aunt May and a row away was Paul’s grave slightly smaller yet more polished. Peter sat on a couch retired from hero life and a job MJ sat with him on the couch and his little son came to snuggle up with him. “Dad can you tell me another one of your Spider-Man stories?” “Sure thing bucko and here’s how it started” The end…
@WeirdWonderful
@WeirdWonderful 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they keep intentionally not giving the fans what they want *for twenty years*
@theinfamousmrsleep
@theinfamousmrsleep 3 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for Ultimate Spider-Man.
@karaoconnoraliasraidra
@karaoconnoraliasraidra 3 ай бұрын
~sighs~ Why do writers think going, “Oh, it seemed like the villain was reforming, but he actually wasn’t!” is an original idea, or even a good idea? It would be more interesting to have a villain actually reform and have to balance their bad past and their promising future. It would certainly be better than the writers telling the readers, “Ha ha, I tricked you! Isn’t that great?” It’s even worse when a writer genuinely has a villain reform, but then another writer undoes it because they didn’t like the idea of a character changing for the better.
@TECH097
@TECH097 3 ай бұрын
Let's be fair, ain't no way a writer would've wanted to write this without Editors meddling somewhere along the way...
@iskander0725
@iskander0725 2 ай бұрын
Paul is going away??? PAUL IS FINALLY FADING INTO A BAD MEMORY??? I'll be honest. Id take a story line where Paul is Mephisto in disguise or some new reality bender who was fucking with Peter. I hate Paul. Not like... What a good villain type of hate. He isnt even really a villain. Just go away type of hatred.
@DrLynch2009
@DrLynch2009 3 ай бұрын
It will remain unanswered why Paul look like Eddie Berganza.
@ZamboniZone
@ZamboniZone 2 ай бұрын
One more day needs to be undone otherwise Spider-Man will never truly be fixed
@michelecastellotti9172
@michelecastellotti9172 2 ай бұрын
I had heard that spidey got f*cked hard, but nevermind me only now realizing how bad, i need to ask this: have they ever wondered what made spidey relatable for people? Because i figured it was because he struggled with things in life but usually managed to confront his problems and get over them, also he achieved a lot, including being happily married to the woman he loves. I REALLY dont know what they were thinking with doing all this, i had to look up why people hated spiderman since "one more day/a new day" so much and... yeah, i now see why, they made spiderman into the most UNrelatable hero, this comic run sounds more like torture-p*rn than anything.
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881
@Alexander-Lionheart_1881 3 ай бұрын
Lol the Paul character is such a self insert character bs character, this is Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson, you don't split them up and put MJ with some other new guy, thats like Lois Lane and Superman
@spencerpommier806
@spencerpommier806 3 ай бұрын
What really sucks for me is how perfect hellions by Zeb Wells was. Like people are just going to think he's a bad writer but he made one of the best X-Men books in the last decade
@M1ckTheMan
@M1ckTheMan 2 ай бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I refuse to read another Spider-man run unless they allow the current writer to retcon One More Day. Bless Nick Spencer for trying, but their adherence to sticking to a canon that NO ONE LIKES is pathetic. Its not even brand synergy, NO movie or show is going to adapt that story because its so terrible!
@reccemike6602
@reccemike6602 2 ай бұрын
I hope so much they do this. Peter wakes up and it was all was a bad dream
@Mavericka96
@Mavericka96 3 ай бұрын
They hyping up tombstone as if anyone actually gives a shit about him as a villain, apart from his appearance in the 90s cartoon, Spectacular Spider-Man and in the play station game, I have not seen him in anything recent that hypes him up as a notable villain, He is not on my top 10 spidey villians list, not even on my 20 or 30, maybe 50.
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 3 ай бұрын
Sp why has it sold so well if the run was so bad?
@SlimGod26
@SlimGod26 10 күн бұрын
Spider-Man's most brutal villain is fucking Kraven, especially after Kraven's Last Hunt back in 1987
@scripturalcontexts
@scripturalcontexts 3 ай бұрын
Zeb Wells' Spider-Man Doctor Octopus Year One was his best work so seeing him totally bungle this run of Amazing Spider-Man was absolutely mind-numbing to me. The horrible quality of his run caused me to end my subscription to the comic and I find myself now in the same situation as many other Spider-Man fans who have migrated to Ultimate Spider-Man simply because it's giving us what we want: Peter Parker as a family man married to Mary Jane. Honestly I think a large part of the problem with Spider-Man goes beyond the second Clone Saga and One More Day: simply put, Peter Parker is a character who Marvel has used and explored for so many decades that they really need to just retire the character and replace him with somebody else in the role of Spider-Man. This is one of the problems that I have with much of modern superhero comics, namely that the concept of legacy heroes has died and that everybody has to remain as the same hero for all-time simply because of a fear of loss of brand recognition. I just really wish that we could either get a new Spider-Man or introduce a newer, more mature May Parker as Spider-Girl / Woman .
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw 3 ай бұрын
Its NOT his fault, he was under Editorial's thumb and FORCED to write what they dictate to him to write, which is why it is so s****ty
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw 3 ай бұрын
Actually, his future daughter is not/will not/never be his replacement, that would be MILES MORALES
@kevintriplett6176
@kevintriplett6176 2 ай бұрын
They're gonna make Spidey the new Kingpin!
@CS08129
@CS08129 3 ай бұрын
I might be a fool to hope for the next writer to do better, but I do think the best way to end this run of SM comics would be to reveal that Wells' MJ was never the real one. Either have her killed and revealed to be a demonic shapshifter sent by Mephisto to replace her and make sure MJ and Peter can't have Mayday. In which case Peter has to get Strange's help to go to Hell and save the real Mary Jane. Or could have it be a clone Paul made after the real MJ died in his world amd he originally intended to male a clone to give to Peter as a way to make up for not protecting the real one, only for things to turn out as they did. In which case we could have Peter finally snap on Paul and call him out for everytjing he put Peter through before walking away. Cut to a few weeks later and Peter is visited by Dr. Strange who reveals to Spidey theyight be able to undo everything thats happened recently by going to Hell and finding the contract Peter made with Mephisto and destroy it. Thus undoing One More Day and giving Spider-Man a chance to have his wife back. Maybe give Paul get a redemption arv where he tries helping Peter as a way to atone for his mistakes
@shermudgeon
@shermudgeon Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the new guy to be named Web Zells and he makes the perfect spider-man comic.
@juuso7792
@juuso7792 3 ай бұрын
Bring in J. M. DeMatteis! Stop giving him just mini series, bring him in ASM. He's one of the best Spidey writers of all time, knows the character well and has respect for him. Or let J. M. Straczynski retcon OMD and continue what he was building before editorial fucked up. But whatever they do: fucking fire Nick Lowe! Such an incompetent editor
@mikem288
@mikem288 3 ай бұрын
Why is this run the worst? I'll tell you. Before this run, people identified the worst runs in ASM history by the story title (One More Day, Sins Past). This isn't just a bad run that will be remembered by a title, it will always be "The Wells Run." His name will be forever attached to this era. He now owns it. Also, Tombstone is a C Lister bad guy. I don't understand the hype being given this "brutal fight." He is literally no physical match for Spider-Man. Just another Wells steamer about to be served up there, I suspect.
@sonnywoods6846
@sonnywoods6846 3 ай бұрын
All he needs to do is make Paul Mephisto or a underling of Mephisto and kill him off and get Peter and Maryjane back together. He will make up for this BS
@VaughnEsper
@VaughnEsper 3 ай бұрын
I'm really glad that Zeb Wells is leaving ASM. I do think it's the worst Spider-Man run ever, or at least I can't think of a worse one. I think really, Nick Lowe needs to leave as well. He's definitely part of the problem. I'm not sure who could come on next who would cause any sort of hype. Maybe Donny Cates if he's recovered from his accident?
@bramderacourt9499
@bramderacourt9499 3 ай бұрын
Aaaand they picked Joe Kelly, just another guy that's gonna obey editorial to the letter. I'm picking up ultimate....
@wraith6776
@wraith6776 3 ай бұрын
Reboot is the wrong term. Crisis on Infinite Earths wss a reboot. Marvel has never actually done a reboot. If the Ultimate line was 616 then that would have been a reboot.
@noctisx1830
@noctisx1830 3 ай бұрын
It took them long enough to finally finish the run. But the real question is how are they going to screw it up further or fix it with the next writing team.
@MrAckvideos
@MrAckvideos 2 ай бұрын
The only character I can think of that might be as hated as Paul is Jar Jar Binks but even then Jar Jar is still better
@barzap6190
@barzap6190 3 ай бұрын
The only hope left is ultimate Spider-Man
@Bonesph
@Bonesph 3 ай бұрын
As far as I'm concerned Spider-Man ended when he met Ben Reilly on the roof of the Daily Bugle.
@coreymartin6486
@coreymartin6486 3 ай бұрын
I don't celebrate anybody losing their job..........but I'm much more excited about the future, even if it's not great, simply because paul won't be in it.
@JollyGreen470
@JollyGreen470 Ай бұрын
Get ryan parrott to write spiderman his writing on power rangers was really good
@eeyuup
@eeyuup 2 ай бұрын
Undo One More Day let pete and MJ get together for good, let Peter grow and make a family. Do something, my goodness.
@zeroakira584
@zeroakira584 2 ай бұрын
God I hope they put all the characters out of their misery in this run, including MJ because they ruined her at the start of this run. Why bother salvage anything, just let's all things sink and free poor spidey. Hope he will get a hotdog at the end though.
@FCSchaefer
@FCSchaefer 3 ай бұрын
Good riddance to Zeb Wells, what a disappointment. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and please take Paul with you.
@jamesroose4340
@jamesroose4340 3 ай бұрын
At this point Ben Reilly should just make new memories instead of obsessing over Peter's life. Move on like Zeb should have done a long time ago.
@WilberforceWooster
@WilberforceWooster 3 ай бұрын
Best news in Spider-Man in a long while. But unless Marvel goes to Nick Spenser on bended knee, who else can fix ASM?
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