Marvel Legends Legends: What If...? The unproduced plans for more Super Hero Figures from Toy Biz

[@wilsonfisk4501]

Toybiz was the best, they were made 20 years ago. They really cared about their figures. Some included comics, bases, smaller figures as accessories, stands, cards, way more paint than what hasbro puts on their figures. They really pushed the envelope for action figures. Just imagine the crazy stuff they would have made today, with updates on articulation and new characters. This is the biggest “what if” when it comes to figures.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I can only imagine. Toys about 15 years ago were really another golden age of collecting.

[@superjoe7]

The ultimate “what if”storyline..... What if Scott the toyguru worked on the ML line/ toybiz instead of Dc and MotuC

[@spectorcreative1872]

Than you would definitely have had Darkhawk 1992 and Spot!

[@Portal2099]

@@spectorcreative1872 I would hope we would have Portal as well!

[@raidernation9920]

What if mcfarlane could make marvel?

[@marineboy1964]

Toybiz marvel legends My favourite action figure line There was hardly a bad figure in there, two that stand out for me , the variant vision series 7 and The juggernaut series 6 and the best wave was The Giant man series absolutely fantastic

[@spectorcreative1872]

Those BAF execution were amazing! I remember getting Galactus and my jaw dropped.

[@cedrictripp2189]

I've ended up with so many of those Legendary Heroes figures, they're very underrated.

[@spectorcreative1872]

VERY! You don't want to know how many Savage Dragons I have...

[@nvfury13]

Spector Creative My cousin worked on that comic, not sure for how long.

[@Junketsuadidas]

I’m dead serious when I say I have about 6 Madman’s haha

[@LoganWood121]

I've got a Dredd and Madman. Fantastic figures. The Dredd is a high favorite.

[@knighttakespawn]

Adding a “lesser articulated” thug is brilliant! I still remember the police officer that the 2000 movie Sabertooth came with. Removable hat, a pistol, and a cool rag doll mechanic that made him go limp! Toybiz really was something special.

[@jesusdavidmartinezsilveyra3983]

The transforming figures were released I had the captain America helicopter and I remember seeing the spiderman wolverine and a hulk tank in the store when I got them

[@spectorcreative1872]

You are totally right!

[@codyholtmeyer6973]

What are these called? I always wanted one as a kid!

[@erccool]

@@codyholtmeyer6973 Megamorphs

[@codyholtmeyer6973]

@@erccool thank you!

[@MrIanfriend]

Both the 12 inch line and transforming robots were released. The 12 inch line was labelled Marvel Studios. You show the two customs that were used to convince the higher ups at Toybiz to green light the line. Blade, Punisher and Wolverine were all produced for mass market. The transforming robots were called Meta Morphs.

[@sfoxhound]

i had some of the meta morphs

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh wow, I did not realize that! Thank you for adding that detail through the comments. It is most appreciated.

[@LoganWood121]

Geeze that 12 inch WWII Cap is incredible. I can't believe I've never seen this till now. This series feels like what they attempted with the Marvel Studios series which had some nice releases also.

[@JapiCustoms]

8:04 that Line is of 2003 from Toy Biz its Called (MArvel Studios12 inch) the blade one was gorgeous, man Toy Biz was Cheap for so much , Toy Biz was generous

[@spectorcreative1872]

Toy Biz figure did have a really special quality to them.

[@TitularHeroine]

Second the motion on the Spot figure. I've always liked that weirdo.

[@spectorcreative1872]

And so easy to produce from a tooling standpoint! Make it happen Hasbri

[@TitularHeroine]

@@spectorcreative1872 And same tooling, other gauntlets, boots, and cape that already exist, also release a Deathurge. That's another I've always wanted to see (even though 90%+ of my guys are 3.75").

[@PoypoyProduction]

I used to love getting the toybiz figure and loved how they came with the comic

[@spectorcreative1872]

But those darn clam shells...

[@edwardstewart6372]

Marvel Legends need to bring back the VS pack series I really wanted a 90's Cage figure vs Hardcore with the on coming airplane as the cardboard background prop from the end of issue #1 and battle damage chase figures of them both with Cage having a removable black jacket and Hardcore accessory would be his bladed whipping chain. Namor vs Attuma, Blade vs Deacon Frost, Silver Surfer vs Thanos, 90's Ironman with classic Tony Stark & mullet headsculp vs 90's Mandarin this time, 90's Captain America vs Red Skull Nazi wearing uniform, Thor vs Loki, Punisher 2099 vs Fearmaster, comic book versions of Black Painter vs Killmonger.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Those would be awesome! And with the current X-Men 2 packs, perhaps figures at this price point will become a thing soon!

[@genesanford9412]

im really waiting for my 2nd version of Firestar ! She hasnt been done for 20yrs ,so this IS good news

[@spectorcreative1872]

The only other one I can think of is the 4" figure that came in a 3 pack. Is that the one you mean? I also have the mini mate if that counts.

[@theshow3413]

I still have all my Toy Biz marvel legends, they are my favorite!!! I stopped collecting when they changed packaging.

[@spectorcreative1872]

You know the reason they used those giant clam shells is because they bought them in bulk really cheap and needed to do something with them!

[@theshow3413]

@@spectorcreative1872 clam shells? The package? I seen some of the ones I bought as a kid have really gone up in price. I’m happy I got them when I did, who knew...

[@elliotblitzer7774]

The Legendary Conan frost giant thingy was epic as well. Find a pic of that bad boy. Amazeballs

[@spectorcreative1872]

You can see that on the link in the description!

[@thebaker525]

One thing to note, ToyBiz had produced some 12-inch figures with soft goods shown in this video. It was called the Marvel Studios line and had X2 Wolverine, Movie 2 Blade, 04 Movie Punisher and a comic style military Wolverine.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Good point! Some of those did get to market after all.

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

I would of loved them to release some Heroic Graphics characters (Flair, Marksman/Huntman, Icestar, Foxbat/Flying Fox, Doctor Destroyer/Doctor Death) as part if the Legendary Heroes line. Ok...I'm a fan of the roleplaying game Champions, where the characters originally came from.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Hey being a fan of something is the first step to wanting a toy of something.

[@HorribleHomeVideo]

what if was the last comic series i actually enjoyed as a kid.. makes sense, i loved mad & cracked.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I miss magazines

[@ronanranger855]

It would be cool if Hasbro revived the legendary comic heroes line.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I would so be behind that. The world needs more Savage Dragon toys.

[@danielkelley2784]

@@spectorcreative1872 i had a great Savage dragon action figure when I was a kid it actually got me into the comics

[@Junketsuadidas]

@@spectorcreative1872 world needs more Madman toys as well!

[@SimbasGuardWT]

Wow how very neat, and kind of bittersweet at the same time.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Truly!

[@JeffTheFutureJaros]

I think all of us Adult Toy Collectors are related in some way, lol, the way you describe yourself as a collector at the beginning, sounds like you're talking about all of me and my collector friends too, lol, Toy Biz has always had some great figures, they had a sweet WCW line in the late 90's too. Awesome Video as always Guru. Respect.

[@spectorcreative1872]

So glad you are enjoying. And yes, we need more collectors working in the toy industry. It would solve a lot!

[@JeffTheFutureJaros]

@@spectorcreative1872 That would be a dream job of mine!

[@edaniels240]

Most of those Toy Biz Marvel Legends & Legendary Heroes figures he talked about actually did come out.

[@spectorcreative1872]

A handful. But I don't see no Toy Biz Darkhawk or Vanguard on my shelf....;-P

[@jetman80pops]

What if....there's still a Kay Bee in a closed mall still has the Toy Biz Marvel 3 for $10 bin still sitting in it.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'd like to live in that universe!

[@privateprivate31337]

It makes me so sad that we never got that classic Darkhawk. While I like the ML one, it's not really my Darkhawk. There was just something so badass with that boxy helmet and wings. I guess the MU one comes close to a classic Darkhawk so I am happy that we at least got that. Here's to hoping Hasbro decides to release a Walgreens exclusive Classic Darkhawk!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I concur 100%. And when we got "mix and match" Darkhawk a few years ago it made me so sad thinking this may be our only ML Darkhawk. Prove me wrong Hasbro! Prove me wrong.

[@majorjoe23]

I wanted that Vanguard figure so much. A Mighty Man figure would also have been great.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah every time I see that Vangard figure.... and Power House!

[@majorjoe23]

Power House would be amazing.

[@Sprocketman]

9:40 no question that Rhino design was re-used for the 4-inch-scale 'Power Charge Rhino' released in 2010 www.figurerealm.com/actionfigure?action=actionfigure&id=31253&figure=rhinopowercharge

[@spectorcreative1872]

Wow! I see it.

[@sanroman3461]

I'd love to watch your take on the Toyfare exclusives.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oooh, I like that idea. I'll add it to the list.

[@steve9021oh]

Ive always wanted a Rocketeer figure, but none of the ones produced could move his head, looking up for flight poses, so i always passed on them. Im picky i guess!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well now you have choices

[@LeeONardo]

And this all started YEARS ago when Toybiz made two highly articulated Spiderman figures as part of a hodge podge classics style line. I still have my Symbiote Spidey from that first series. I also remember the first marvel legends series with the terrible tacked on Toad figure, I bet that fig has some value now since no one bought it? lol

[@spectorcreative1872]

That Toad figures was intended for a X Men Movies Comic/Movie 2 pack set. But it the first wave didn't sell so the tool'd up Toad was shuffled off to Marvel Legends. you can tell from the articulation it doesn't really fit

[@domls1317]

I still have the Venom from that Spiderman Classics line

[@oneyedthing]

The classic Marvel Legends S1-S11 was the shiiit. The Pitt series still best baf out of that classics line. I remember I had 3 of those because i like it so much. Never thought prices would sky rocket

[@spectorcreative1872]

I haven't checked Ebay in a while, but I imagine Pitt goes for a pretty penny. That figure is AMAZING!

[@oneyedthing]

@@spectorcreative1872 Yes. I know. I was suprised as well. I have a hard time back then selling it at 30$ a pop. Still the best BAF along with the Sentinel BAF S10.

[@Eliangomonkey]

All I can think about toy biz making marvel figures is translated to marvel select

[@spectorcreative1872]

The number of companies making Marvel 6" is pretty astounding. Especially when you look at companies that are exclusive to an overseas market like SF Figurearts &c...

[@Ultron71]

IN 2018 Amazing Heroes tried to fill in the gap left by Legendary Heores and they had some great choices including Nexus. Unfortunately the Kickstarter failed. I think they were going to try again with smaller launch but I don't know if they did or not.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I was wondering what happened to that Kickstarter. Too bad, if I recall it had a Malcolm Dragon figure.

[@euhin]

The 12" Ironman mockup at 8:32, is a repaint of a figure from the toy line ZMDC (九港大戰) from Hong Kong back in the days. You can check out their ig and facebook page: @zmdc_hk .

[@euhin]

facebook.com/zmdc.hk/photos/551977854954506 The particular figure. The line is a favourite among Hong Kong collectors, but it was not widely available, so it is lesser-known to the rest of the world.

[@spectorcreative1872]

That is awesome! Glad you could spot that one. Nice, thanks for the added info.

[@patrickouellette1582]

I had a hulk an captain America figures that transformed they got released in Canada or some how my mom got a prototype

[@spectorcreative1872]

I've now learned this. Toys that are at the tail end of a line or license often get released overseas only. Thanks for noting this. More here too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqi3eZuBj7Sppac

[@bertrandlau6761]

I got the Legendary Comic Book Heroes Conan the Barbarian Twin-Pack recently. Absolutely love them! :D

[@spectorcreative1872]

Some of Toy Biz's best work!

[@BenTenpenny]

I don't know about the actual reasons behind this but ToyBiz' Marvel Legends were way easier and cheaper to get here in Germany than the Hasbro ones. You could get a figure for 16,50€-20€ throughout the 2000s. Not in large stores like ToysRUs but small comic book shops. Now they are 25-30€ if you can even track them down.

[@spectorcreative1872]

International distribution is a whole other ball game! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqi3eZuBj7Sppac

[@ucitymetalhead]

Man i never knew they made a cyberforce figure!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Just Striker alas.

[@jasperswarp]

You forgot about the Judge Dredd villain Mean Machine, he was definitely planned for wave 3 (also a character called Aphrodite IX) the pictures are online with a quick google search, the detailing on Mean Machine are insane, he would have been the stand out figure of wave 3. There have been a few Dredd figures over the years, but no Mean Machine, the wait continues.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I actually deliberately didn't cover every figure to save some for the links in the description! The sites that did the original posts deserve credit.

[@coo-coo666]

Video game Annihilus is another one I wish would of made it out. I think a few were released overseas, though.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Was he? I'll have to check up on that!

[@tmntman3086]

That photo of the Pitt series of Legendary Comic Book series looks oddly familiar.

[@spectorcreative1872]

hmmmmmmm

[@misterstrick9schannel215]

Thanks for the videos! That was another good one! And yes Hasbro! Make a figure of The Spot! He would be great with extra hands and feet accessories that look like they're punching and kicking through his portals!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I would so buy at least three! Make it happen Hasbro

[@JurassicRod]

I know it was after you left Mattel but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the evolution of DCUC to DC Multiverse. I was sad when Mattel lost the license as they'd been doing some great stuff with DC Multiverse.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I think after I wrap up the Director's Commentary on the product I did work on I'll look at doing an opinion piece like that.

[@yauyuso]

There wasn't really much of an evolution to say.... sorry but Mattel's DC figures were terrible. Sure looking back there were a few gems that I can safely assume we won't see another figure on the character. If Mattel put in a bit more effort. They probably would have still kept the license or at least still be relevant like Hasbro

[@JurassicRod]

@@yauyuso I quite liked the Mattel line. Especially by the end it was pretty much up to Marvel Legends standards with articulation and face sculpts of actors. Batman 66, Devito Penguin, John Wesley Shipp Flash!

[@yauyuso]

@@JurassicRod I would say it's a little bit too little too late. The John Wesley Snipps figure was decent but the lack of ankle rockers is a mystery to me. And also that "deluxe" stand ehe figures came with was strange.... it's like it was designed from someone that never played an action figure before..... I can see Mattel was putting effort but it was just so bad.... That being said I'd still bought the figure when it was on sale. I did get the Batman box set cuz Adam West head sculpt does look good. Danny DeVito figure was okay. if I knew there was a Batman and Catwoman coming from the Batman Returns, I would have add a few bonus points.

[@TheGoonTick]

Legendary heroes was a cool like. I had the whole first series. I still have dredd and judge death. The problem with them was the plastic, or maybe the paints used were awful. My dredd got super sticky with age , his paint just peelled off, and his leg just snapped off out of nowhere his armor pieces also snapped off, madman yellows pretty easily, death just seems to be rotting. And pitt... Pitt, though awesome also has a tendency to get really sticky. we actually got rid of him recently cause he was just deteriorating. And it's not like he was being played with or anything. Not sure what the problem was but it's very unfortunate. I had a to completely refurbish my Dredd. (New paint job, and resculpt of the armor) it's strange cause no other figures I have from that age or even older have done that. And in my hunt for a loose madman in good condition I noticed most are horribly yellowed. It really sucks cause this series had some great figures that I'd love to own again. But yeah cool series with weird issues. Wish it would have continued. Maybe get a the tick figure at some point. Love your channel btw. Been watching your stuff a lot lately. Very interesting.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Interesting. My Pitt is holding just fine, but I will go examine him tonight.

[@Strapper01]

THIS is exciting!!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad you are excited. Spread the word!

[@kevinxiong7605]

If Toy Biz were to continue making Marvel Legends, the price of each figure would only still be around $12.00 (They were around $7 to $8 then). The Moment Hasbro took over in 2006, They raised the price immediately to $15.00 a figure! I missed those days when I can get a complete BAF set for around $45.00.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I can tell you being on DCUC at the same time, this price increase was due to the cost of material and labor going up. Not a cash grab at all!

[@kevinxiong7605]

@@spectorcreative1872 Yes I understand cost of material and labor all go up in time but, this is the same year (2006) that the price jump from $8 to $15 a figure. That's just totally unreasonable. I collect both Lord of the Rings and Marvel Legends from 1999 to 2006 "Toybiz". They only raised their prices about $1. The prices were between $6.99 to $7.99 a figure from those time frames.

[@kevinxiong7605]

Also I get it. It's just business. Hasbro raised their prices because the can regardless of cost of material/labor increase. Collectors will still buy them.

[@delio2681]

i got some toybiz figures and there great, my favourite is first appearance hulk and 2002 hobgoblin

[@spectorcreative1872]

I love that Hobgoblin fig!

[@coo-coo666]

Nice video but what about Bi-Beast or Red King? There's also Disco Luke Cage and Crimson Dawn Psylocke. I'm pretty sure there's also a hand painted flame on Super Skrull.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I left a few of the figures out which you can see on the links in the description. I didn't want to take all the thunder away from the original reporting!

[@WarhawkLegend69]

The modern day upgraded look and consistency with hasbro for me all started in 2016 with the juggernaut build a figure wave, they some good figures before that but not consistently. But since 2016 they have been knocking it out of the park on a regular basis.. They have surpassed toybiz with the overall look and sculpt now if only we could get the weathering and paint apps that toybiz had, it's the last and final step needed and hasbros transformation will be complete..!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I agree. That Deadpool wave with Juggernaut was a major step in the right direction

[@corygraves4351]

The produced Darkhawk is not so much a composite as he is based on his appearance from Runaways and the Marvel Team Up League of Losers. I hunger for a classic DH myself but am pleased with what we got. Now if they could just make a Sleepwalker...

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh I sin't knocking the need for Sleepwalker. But man, a 90's Darkhawk would be a dream Thanks for your note on what source material this version came from!

[@brettpugh7898]

Am I the only one who would love a new Vampirella figure??

[@markmichel3855]

Brett Pugh we need a six inch red Sonja figure

[@brettpugh7898]

@@markmichel3855 definitely!

[@spectorcreative1872]

No. Not the only one. But a tough sale at mass retail

[@dylanpocock703]

I've only got Marv figure from Sin City I got it second hand for $16 Australian.Id love too have that Pitt baf

[@hakatox]

So many Rocketeer figures and I still can't get a Jonny 5 toy.....

[@spectorcreative1872]

Like from Short Circuit? Oh that would be awesome!

[@suhtangwong]

If toybiz never died out, I think we would definitely have mythic legion details and paint with toy biz articulation but with updated proportions. They would've ruled the 6in scale of all time. I mean hasbro is not too bad now but for the price point and very lack of articulation, toybiz would've done it all and for less.

[@jasperswarp]

One figure I wanted but was mysteriously missing was Lady Deathstrike from the X-men 2 movie (X2) ? Hasbro are starting to make the Fox X-men figures, so hopefully one will get made at some point.

[@KingRandor82]

At $25 each currently, we shall see...

[@spectorcreative1872]

Hasbro seems to be kicking out a ton, but I can't see them doing more females from the X Men movies since both Domino and Mystique have totally bombed at retail.

[@parkeranimations3671]

Is it possible to bring toybiz back? Like start a whole new line of made up heroes and villains? That should be cool.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Alas, the company no longer exists. Gone with the toy wind.

[@Yoh23]

Damn im kinda sad to see all these planned figures and sets. Hell I dont usually got for in a BaF line but I would for a quinnjet

[@spectorcreative1872]

I so wish they could have pulled that off! I am guessing costs got in the way

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

Forbush Man, Milk and Cookies, Spider Ham.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Make it happen Hasbro!

[@warface4881]

Sometimes Toy Biz had issues with body proportions and some of the sculpts could have been better but they were way more durable than Hasbro. That probably doesn't matter to a collector but it matters to me and my boys when we play with them. As a kid would you rather play with an AWSOME Wolverine with his claws missing or a decent Wolverine with all his parts?

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'm going to go with all his parts!

[@edaniels240]

I actually saw those Marvel Mechs figures at Toys R Us

[@yauyuso]

Oh ya, the Marvel Mechs were made, but there may have been a few that didn't get to see the day light because they sure did not sell well. There was even a 3 issue comic book series to help sell the figures.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah they did make it out.

[@theunkillablecat8458]

What is the figure in the thumbnail

[@spectorcreative1872]

Frrbrush Man

[@theunkillablecat8458]

@@spectorcreative1872 lol

[@williamthompson5504]

Why did so many JLU figures get cancelled? I have all of them. Even a real Holiday Hal Jordan.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Congrats on the Hal. That is one of I think 110 units. Pretty much EVERY JLU figure in the shoot got made. Which figures were you referring to?

[@bladestar2322]

Seriously still need Forbush Man!

[@collegerebel]

Hey Scott, I know you no longer work on any DC product, but in your opinion, what would it take for DC to take notice of a company like Jazwares to do 6" figures? I've been looking at their Fortnite figures in the 6" scale and they seem like they'd knock it out of the park with DC. I loved DCUC back in the day and they still look great, but I'd love a 6" line with the same level of articulation as Marvel Legends.

[@spectorcreative1872]

One of the biggest factors that comes down to selecting a toy partner is distribution capabilities. I don't know what Jazwares capabilities are off the top of my head, but I know DC going with Spin Master took a lot of people by surprise, so clearly WB/DC is looking for good partners.

[@yauyuso]

As of now the 6-7" license is with McFarlane toys and the more kid friendly line is the 4" figures with Spin Masters. It may be a while until we get 6" figures but I am very happy with what McFarlane is offering

[@iampoch01]

McF is doing great with their DC line. It's quite unfortunate that it's 7", which is why I don't bother collecting it. Only one I have is the Hellbat. Right now, MAFEX is my de facto 1:12 scale DC figure standing alongside Marvel Legends. I loved the DCEU line, but at that time, I only collected Batman figures (Batman only), so I didn't have much.

[@collegerebel]

@@spectorcreative1872 That makes sense. I also noticed that Jazwares didn't release their 6" Fortnite line until last summer, so I would also guess that a precedent hadn't been established yet for what DC could expect product quality-wise from Jazwares in the 6" collector market.

[@collegerebel]

@@yauyuso Doesn't Spin Master also have a 6" license? They make cartoony figures with only 3 POA, but yeah, they have that scale.

[@eltenda]

Cool!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Enjoy! Pass along on social media too!

[@korydoe4813]

Oh I would have loved more Conan figures! I had the one from the 2 pack but one is never enough

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'd love a Conan based on Howard's book as well as Space Conan. So many cool way to do him!

[@korydoe4813]

@@spectorcreative1872 i have many of those books, so good

[@nvfury13]

They were going to make Darkhawk? I missed out on Darkhawk?!?

[@spectorcreative1872]

i know right! I cry every night

[@nvfury13]

Spector Creative Hopefully we will get a perfect original Darkhawk and maybe them redoing Toy Biz’s Marvel 2099 figures.

[@jahlonjohnson6153]

Nexus would have been really cool to see

[@spectorcreative1872]

Seriously right!

[@ivanosatriani5533]

Toy biz made the best figures if i think of the toxin and venom that they made those where beast figures and can stand next the the new figures, and still blow them away

[@spectorcreative1872]

Toy Biz did some amazing stuff. I am just glad Hasbro took the ball and ran with it.

[@ivanosatriani5533]

@@spectorcreative1872 hasbro is good... but they drop the ball manny times tho. The new built a figure venom toxin.... is garbage :( it don´t even look like toxin. (And i say build a figure because thats what it was at 1st) i do like the eddie brock venom wich is also the venom build a figure mold. Pretty cheap if you ask me. I'd rather invest in neca :/ my opinion

[@mikehunth5765]

What was the industry reaction to toybiz’s demise and the eventual transfer of the marvel license to hasbro? Were people surprised?

[@spectorcreative1872]

A lot of people in the industry knew that Toy Biz likely was not paying their tooling bills so I don't think it was a huge shock. I don't have proof of it, but I have heard this from many people independently.

[@KingRandor82]

@@spectorcreative1872 which is unfortunate, because I prefer the ToyBiz ML, personally.

[@iampoch01]

Man, I didn't realize that there was a 6" Rocketeer from Funko 😥 I hope secondary market value isn't high.

[@collegerebel]

Yeah, but those 6" Funko figures were known for bad QC and falling apart very easily. I wouldn't bother if I were you, unless you plan to keep it in box. Just my two cents. Maybe do some research first about the QC.

[@spectorcreative1872]

The Funko one (I have it) is "okay". It is REALLY hard to swap the heads.

[@iampoch01]

@@collegerebel thanks for the heads up! Nah, I take out my figures and articulate them. The last thing I want is it breaking down on me.

[@mgvillanmp478]

I dig marvel but not a rabbit hole I want to go down ...lol..cool vid

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@markbutterline2551]

what if toybiz made mortal kombat figures it would be awesome

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'd buy those!

[@Skywarp-js9ne]

Hello this is really cool what if there and I'm glad you didn't make some of the stuff lol

[@spectorcreative1872]

I never worked for Toy Biz, so it wasn't as much me as "them".

[@Skywarp-js9ne]

Sorry the voice to text I meant to say I'm glad they didn't make some of the stuff I know you worked for DC

[@rolandkatsuragi]

9:03 I'm above making a lowbrow joke, but I will point out it's there.

[@LooferMoofer]

It's nice to see some true representation out there.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I aim to please

[@symbiote1982pk]

Toy Biz partially acquired Marvel, not the other way round.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Good point!

[@davidr7743]

Pretty sad there wasn’t more Spider-Man figures

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well at least the current line from hasbro is pumping them out. I mean Frog Man? Wow.

[@markmichel3855]

Hasbro has a wolverine/jet/transformers figure coming soon

[@spectorcreative1872]

Really? Too funny. Nothing goes away huh?

[@Justlink200]

What if Scott saved the DCUC line

[@spectorcreative1872]

Now that would be an interesting video

[@Weasel699]

I have the bishop bald

[@spectorcreative1872]

I remember holding the variant in my hands at TGT back in the day and putting it back in favor of the full hair version. Of course the Bald one was the chase and everyone wanted it!

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

I just threw out a whole bunch of toy biz figs rats ate parts of. Toy biz missed the boat not making a pied piper irony man armor. Ooh la la!😄

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well hey, with the advent of time travel technology, I'm sure anything is possible.

[@gerrysabron]

thats alright man, even McD people eat in Wendy's..lol!..yeah, but glad for DCUC & Motuc, they saved me money from Hasbro's dark days

[@spectorcreative1872]

And those were dark days. Although I do wish they would re-release Blob in better deco.

[@thecreepynightshiftguy]

So it sounds like Toy Biz had pretty much run out of ideas for the Marvel Legends line, outside of 12" dress up Megos and transformer knock-offs, and instead wanted to focus on their Legendary Heroes line that would've drawn a much smaller crowd. I was heartbroken when Hasbro took over the line, because those first few waves were pretty lame, but I'm almost happy now that Toy Biz failed before they could run the line into the ground like that.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I am just so glad the Hasbro stuff got better! And it is still getting better. Agree with your post.

[@dylanpocock703]

I would have loved to get a Conan figure

[@PhoenixFyre]

I feel like the Hasbro ML series QC is hit or miss.

[@spectorcreative1872]

My bane has been ML figures with stuck joints. But a good boiling water bath will solve that!

[@PhoenixFyre]

Loose leg joints on mine with a smattering of bobble torso.

[@theshockerpit7274]

Toy bears has more articulations than Hasbro problem solved

[@spectorcreative1872]

Toy Bears you say? Do they eat Toy Honey?

[@theshockerpit7274]

Yes

[@Erykthebat]

Didn't Toybiz aquire marvel ?

[@spectorcreative1872]

The other way around.

[@rmn0019]

A DC universe classics please!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I've been doing DCUC wave by wave as Director's commentary on this channel! Check it out.

[@JosephGualtieri]

“Piece de resistance would be the Rocketeer” Rock-a-who?

[@spectorcreative1872]

The Disney Movie based on the comic book. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocketeer

[@aztecautobot7404]

😎👍

[@spectorcreative1872]

Awesome. Glad you liked. Tell your friends and robot friends

[@darkwoods1954]

I always wanted to collect Marvel Legends but found the Toybiz versions so ugly. The proportions were often off due to the articulation being clumsily designed. Overly gangly arms and legs, long feet, ball shoulders etc. I love the Hasbro line though and have a large collection of those.

[@spectorcreative1872]

While some of the toy Biz figures still appeal to me, I have replaced almost all of them with Hasbro. Especially when you compare height, the Toy Biz figures are almost an inch too small to be 6" figures

[@darkwoods1954]

@@spectorcreative1872 Yes the height thing bothered me when I wanted a Spider-man to stand with my DCUC Batman and Superman.

[@CyberVforVictory]

Other than Rocketeer and darkhawk it really kind of sounds like we dodged a bullet most of them sound like absolute garbage

[@spectorcreative1872]

Maybe...but I still want Darkhawk

[@CyberVforVictory]

@@spectorcreative1872 a man with excellent taste darkhawk is probably my favorite superhero after the Fantastic Four far as Marvel goes. He's basically Marvel's equivalent of Kamen Rider and I am an absolute sucker for some tokusatsu style hero

[@DeepFingerlove]

ToyBiz was the best hands down. Fuck Hasbro!

[@spectorcreative1872]

They did have cool stuff

[@artbytheanomaly6010]

Great content as always. Hey Spector, I'd love to draw something for you, perhaps a Darkhawk piece. What do you say? Take a look at some of my work on ig if you get a chance @artbytheanomaly This isn't a self promo, I'd just like to thank you for your vids with an original drawing. Keep up the great work!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Hey that would be awesome! No idea why your comment was held by KZbin for 10 months before posting. Alas I have no control of this

[@artbytheanomaly6010]

@@spectorcreative1872 no worries. Platforms can be weird like that. Give me a dm on IG whenever you have a quick moment. I'd still love to draw that pic for ya

[@CeaseLessWheel-]

YO WTF IS UP WITH THE SUBTITLES

[@spectorcreative1872]

I have no idea. I'll look into it.

[@yauyuso]

Short answer would be we won't get MCU. Marvel Legends line will still have ugly looking figures. Mattel's DC Superheroes line probably will see more improvements with articulation with vocal fans complaining the lower articulation with Toybiz super articulation figures with occasional articulated fingers. We would have gotten the animate Fantastic Four line, more 12" Marvel Icon figures, a few more Marvel Legends variants and an X-men 3 movie toy line. But also with the rumor of Toy biz owing factories money. In the long run maybe they would have been folded. Heck maybe Mattel may have gotten the Marvel License.

[@spectorcreative1872]

All possible outcomes. I like the way you wrapped your mind around this one based on the facts and situations. Nice.

[@yauyuso]

@@spectorcreative1872 I might be wrong on this but from what I heard Marvel sold their toy licenses so they can have the capital to fund Marvel studios and there were a few toy biz figures that were pretty much close to be ready for release that end up being released by Hasbro. looking back at the movie Ghost Rider line It looked like something that Toy Biz would have made instead of Hasbro