Marvel Rivals Addiction?! | The Geekenders Ep 58

[@crendor]

Dodger is in her 2016 competitive Crendor era

[@Burred11]

So will be getting buffger some time in the next 4 years?

[@DrAustinSauce]

@@Burred11 I was going to suggest alternate Buff Dodger names, but then I suddenly became aware of "The One Who Doogs" possibly behind me. So I shall refrain.

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Crendor being a Geekender fan goes so hard

[@MoxStash]

this is the most "we occasionally talk about video games" episode so far

[@GuitarSlayer136]

🥲

[@CharmedBalthazar]

That phrase alone just made me emotional

[@__Albin__]

I automatically read that in his voice.

[@danche3726]

​@@CharmedBalthazar I am someone who rarely comments on videos/mainly just lurks. The TGS/Co-optional years are something I dearly miss. There's some solace in knowing that there are people who feel the same 🥲

[@Nora-rb6tr]

dodger only being able to think of "azkaban" instead of "alcatraz" is the funniest doogs goof ive heard in a while

[@darklightstudio]

😅

[@patu8010]

One was directly inspired by the other and has almost the same name, so it's understandable.

[@GradnLordTad]

I was in Jesse's boat where I thought of The Raft first, but then got to Alcatraz. 🤣

[@sephus764]

She said prison in the water and all I could think of initially was Impel Down

[@sabretoothau]

The talk of fairy bread at the start reminds me of when Jesse came to PAX Australia a few years back. He was there on stage sampling fairy bread, commenting something along the lines of, "Y'all just paid me to fly half way around the globe to eat your sprinkles on bread". He had a point.

[@Ma-Giik]

was there for that, would pay for him to do it again too

[@MsAzhriaz]

I wonder what Jesse would think of the Dutch bread sprinkles / chips. Available in flavoured sugar and several chocolate options.

[@hiddehotse]

The way Jesse speaks about the Remedyverse is so endearing to watch. His joy and amezement when he realises that something has been there all along but it never clicked is the best. Good luck with your 'Magnum opus', can't wait to watch it!

[@GradnLordTad]

I love it because I'm the same way as him. Every time I play those games or watch someone else play them, I'm marking out the whole damn time. 🤣

[@icarus933]

I was a man dying of dehydration in the desert until this episode was posted, now my geekend has started and I am renewed

[@onyx.avenger]

1:09:14 OMG Jesse, you unlocked one of my core memories of WOW PvP (Late Vanilla/Early BC). I played Alliance-side on an RPPVP server, and literally no one would ever heal in pugs so I ended up making a healbot Paladin 80% out of spite to show that it could be done. Around that same time, the smurf PVP guild (lv29) I was in on my Rogue had a day where our main healer (Holy Priest) ragequit out of healing after getting super tilted, and then my alt suddenly because the main healer for the guild. I had a great time with that because once they implemented matching based on queuing party size we ONLY matched up against Horde premades and smart premades focused the healer - which meant I had to balance my own self-preservation while keeping the team alive. That's what I miss about WoW. I never even got into the Outlands - just had three PVP toons for lv29 and one for lv39.

[@velkonemriam1935]

Dodger, to protect your chickens, you should totally get a guard goose!

[@FidgetThePepperTheGhost]

She actually has/had a goose named Crumb but as he grew up he became really aggressive with other members of the house including herself and her kid. I'm not sure if she still has him.

[@velkonemriam1935]

@ Oh, that’s unfortunate. Geese do tend to get territorial

[@sadesemolu]

Aren't roosters good protectors? Like on a suicidal level. When not just have a male chicken around?

[@FidgetThePepperTheGhost]

@@sadesemolu in theory lmao but from having had chickens, more often than not roosters are best at being aggressive to potential rivals and those they think are weaker than them, often the hens themselves or towards small children. This does not always translate to being all that good at warding off predators, although their loud distress calls can be useful. However if whatever predator is nabbing the chickens is a stealth predator, there's really no guarantee that a rooster will be able to alert the rest of the coop in time if they themselves don't see the ambush coming. When we had roosters, at any sign of actual "danger" (being picked up for a health check, dogs nearby, etc) they would often hide behind the ladies 😂 This depends on the breed of course. I'm sure there are some chicken breeds with bolder and more aggressive roosters, but you wouldn't necessarily want those around children.

[@MaisieSqueak]

Yoooo those two missing chickens? Calling it now. Sam's a Lycanthrope 😂 He super fits the bill 🤣

[@tinybee7780]

Those videos of those L.A. fires look really terrifying, especially the ones that show how orange and full of smoke the skies are. I hope everybody there stays safe.

[@emzdanowicz2775]

28:45 Badger. Those fuckers are like cats, they can become fluid and squeeze through small spaces even though they're kinda big xd

[@hesharu]

Yeah, usually some type of Ferret. I was thinking Mink, but I was watching someone hunting rats with Mink and dogs recently, so I had them in mind.

[@jonathany1240]

and it's like England so there are half a dozen animals that do this, I first thought foxes but badgers make more sense for winter hunting

[@matta9358]

IT'S THE WEEKEND!

[@kadenkks]

for a contribution on the MMR discussion. Generally the finding is that making the system more complicated tends to not make it more accurate, and may make it take longer to place you accurately. Thus you wanna settle on some function of just winning and losing, often including streaks as an indicator that it should be adjusting your rank more. If gmart was higher ranked and received more points, it may be that he is win streaking and generally holding a very high winrate, and thus the system thinks he's underranked, and is giving more points across the board to make his rank increase towards its current prediction of where he'll end up.

[@Talos5oo]

The control gentlemans' gaming club is still one of my fav videos you've ever done. The threshhold kids bit gets me everytime. So genuinely cannot wait to see what you make for your remedyverse video

[@khazad2112]

Regarding the sandwich conversation, it's always been fascinating to me how the default bread in virtually all Anglo (English-speaking) countries is the square Wonderbread-type stuff that doesn't even qualify as bread in most European countries. I'm living in Norway now, and that bread is hardly even sold at all, and it's labelled "toast bread", as in bread used for toast. Most people never buy it, and only buy more rustic breads that actually taste like something.

[@krausier]

Hell Yeah, Great Banter this Episode. Excellent work!

[@Kyrobinthian]

"There's two wolves in me and they're both tired of this kid" -Dodger probably

[@seaskipper]

The heel of a real bread with the extra crust is a huge premium feature. I'll always take a heel or a corner piece of baked goods for more edges.

[@tymmezinni]

On a fresh loaf, it's fine. Loaves of sandwich bread, the butts are there to absorb the moisture and get dried out so the rest of the loaf doesn't, and they're "only eat if you somehow mismatched during the rest of the loaf"

[@aetherdryth1]

​@@tymmezinniI would definitely suggest buying better bread/eating the crust earlier 😂

[@eripug4528]

These video thumbnails give me life, parodying the meta by using it *chefs kiss*

[@HereIsMyUsername]

The Santa Ana (Santana) Winds are gnarly. There’s reason why we call them the Devil Winds.

[@Crashh965]

Jesse thank you so much for pointing me to Remedy games. This journey has been so fun from Control to Alan Wake. I'm gonna watch that video 6 times bro. I cannot wait

[@TheLaur200]

The chickens may be hunted by a pine marten or a polecat. They are small, can dig, can sneak in and strong enough to hunt chickens. We used to have chickens as well. Our house is near the forest and we always had problems with martens.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

huh. i wonder if that's what got our chickens. my grandma was convinced a fox did it, but there absolutely 100% no way a fox could have gotten at them, i checked, double checked, triple checked every damn day. nothing bigger than a squirrel could have gotten at them, and a ferret would explain it.

[@TheLaur200]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 I would assume it all depends on the region. I live in eastern europe, so I messaged with what I thought might be the animal as per Dodger's description. The description of the hole is what clued me it might be a marten, and they are in the UK too. Dad used to go crazy because of them to the point where we got geese and ducks and a couple of roosters to keep the growing chickens safe. We found out it was martens when the chickens and rooster were making noise right when dad woke up to pee, he went to check and saw the animal.

[@bAd12cheZ]

I'm something of a man made disaster myself heckin love the Geekenders Podcast and Megaran.

[@Roatigas]

Jesse is the kid from the start of the first Jurassic Park. “Looks like a six foot turkey!”

[@thecaryou]

I always thought a six foot turkey would be scary as all get out.

[@MrGeerye]

​Look up the cassowary from Australia at 1.8m. Little smaller than an emu but they've got a huge claw on their foot. ​@@thecaryou

[@jonathandinh8750]

37:03 as a former math teacher, “new math” is just more in-depth strategies that lead to the algorithms that Millennial and Gen X know. It takes longer, initially, because it’s meant to develop number sense that the algorithms take advantage of.

[@LaserGuidedBacon]

Okay I see clips all the time but this is the first time I’ve actually watched and that intro has got me hooked

[@samfroggeh]

2 bread butts for a sandwich isn't ideal - but for a Toastie? that's yummy that is.

[@AngelavengerL]

State Farm literally did that to us this week! We aren't even in California but it just was like the agent isn't with us anymore so we're dropping you. Which is the weirdest thing considering we've never had a single claim and always paid on time. so sure state farm don't take the free money.... so crazy. Please DODGER and JESSE! Please play HOMICIPHER! It's a story/language puzzle game where you meet cute creepy monster and ghost boys and if you play well can romance them! I so so want to see your reactions to Mr Crawling and Mr Hood! It's seriously such a fantastic indie game! 😍 p.s. please have Jowol the PorcelainMaid as a guest. He loves Obra Din and i soo want to see dodger and him geek out! He also love Star Wars like Jesse, especially the animated clone wars!

[@PepicWalrus]

I am so excited for this remedyverse video. When jesse mentioned it like a yewr and a half ago in 5minute gaming news i have been HUNGRY for it.

[@LadCarmichael]

Jesse mentionning old Alterac Valley and suddenly I'm that critic in Ratatouille remembering his childhood

[@Plokia66]

I am so excited for Jesse's Remedyverse video! 😄

[@firechild4607]

Jesse being a Zhou Yun fan only makes me love him more

[@JediMimic]

As an alliance rogue, those alterac valley bridge stalemates were so great (I was stealthing behind lines and capping everything I could)

[@MaisieSqueak]

I remember the very very early days of WoW PvP and I actually started to get ok-ish at it. And then Twinks happened and I checked out :( It's so sad how Blizzard games encourage one right way to play in their games. Like... They banded us in increments of 10!?... You could be in there with someone below or above you on level... Can you imagine doing anything so wild today? Times change.

[@Drakoni23]

So interesting to hear how foreign languages get taught to kids. Growing up with German, I know the language is very difficult to learn when it comes to grammatics. But at least almost everything sounds the same no matter the context. The only real silent letter we have is the H, which has a purpase too. Tho I think they've also started to teach more how the letter actually sounds than how you name the letter. Talked about this with a friend who studies history and Italian right now. Apparently a lot of the silent letters in English are just historic leftovers from Britain being conquered by different people over the centuries. So you got some Germanic, some Romanic (like French) and even when the spoken language changed, you'd keep spelling things the old way.

[@Der_Iago]

man I love that this thing is so successful

[@PurpleKangaroo4]

Drinking game: take a drink every time jesses says "it is what it is" this episode 😂

[@offcenterideas]

Red Cliff!!! You're almost literally the first person I've ever heard mention it. Such a phenomenal movie(s).

[@GRIMHOOD99]

I am now imagining that Clarke is singing along to Hellfire or Dirty Little Animals and that's really funny.

[@Purkinje90]

Shout out to the way Crendor pronounces focaccia

[@lazygamer4746]

Marvel Rivals is the most fun I've had with a game in a long time

[@Josh_mona]

Good boy 😂😂😂

[@nathanadams5933]

im so hyped for this Remedyverse video.

[@bloodscout6244]

It's the weekend!

[@ChampionBob]

I feel so guilty listening to a podcast that starts the weekend on a Monday

[@Devondavis-fm2dz]

W podcast

[@WorldzMo5t3pic]

I feel like insurance companies just up and deciding to _not_ cover people should be a bigger story that I shouldn't have to hear from an obscure gaming/entertainment podcast... And people get angry that Luigi is hailed as a hero of the working class.

[@chaysebell1140]

Go listen to a different podcast then

[@travislyonsgary]

Mm it's a spreading thing as issues crop up. Lots of em failing across the south

[@WarHorseMumbles]

​@@chaysebell1140you missed the point

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

wow, youtube's being a little bitch deleting my comments. god forbid i want a murderer to be treated as such.

[@lulatsch1515]

​@@miguelnewmexico8641Your comments are getting deleted bc you are toxic and insufferable.

[@jjcc4055]

Gonna need some Wizard Chickens in prison artwork.

[@OmarsChannel661]

i come here from a tiktok youre in from that asian dude with long hair

[@TheNand311]

Same 😂

[@Deathskull0001]

The way you were pronouncing the letters is actually exactly how it is done in Slavic languages.

[@damianGray]

Now I know, as an Australian expat living in the US, that Jesse did not just throw shade on Australian's for fairy bread, when US bread is so sweet it taste like dessert. Get good bread, son.

[@Rae-Nbow]

Did I think I'd be crying during the 'Sonic' section, no, but here we are

[@laughnhalf5684]

Jesse talking about the Remedy-verse, reminds me of the foreshadowing done in One Piece.

[@p3nguin0]

I like bread, but Romaine Lettuce wraps, minty banana leaf, or soy-paper for a nice teriyaki beef strip are also amazing vehicles.

[@9999wok]

The only reason I can think of why gmart was getting more points is the algorithm determined that gmart is not in his correct league so they are boosting him until he loses so that he gets to the correct rank he is supposed to be. Its kind of like a winstreak bonus I am guessing.

[@brickbirchbeep]

YO it's the Geekend!

[@Vicioussama]

I love that bridge. Was Alliance :) but Horde had TWO Chokes they never took advantage of in early days and, when they learned about em after BC came out, it was way fewer Alliance wins.

[@The_Kazarian]

Why is it the line "you have industrial sized loaf" stood out even on a conversation about "bread butt"

[@youkings100]

Man... the end pieces of bread are the best part. Its thicker, toastier. Put it in the toaster and it becomes flacky and soft inside. If you don't like it ship all your bread ends to me! I would exclusively eat that for sandwiches

[@arboris]

I feel you Jesse. PoE2 is not for the regular Action RPG enjoyer. Although, no matter the posturing a lot of players do with the "git gud" they turn it straight back into PoE1 screen clearing meta builds at the end game because losing a map is punished hard. It is a bit ironic that the one thing people enjoy the most (hard bosses with mechanics) is the one thing they just try to omit completely because of the harsh punishments later on.

[@jamesbrunton9507]

Jesse's Nic Cage sounds exactly like Jennifer Coolidge

[@Octorawk]

It's the Geekend!

[@ElyonDominus]

English is a glorious language that gets a lot of flack. It's like three and a half languages in a trench coat which really sells the Imperialist nature of English speaking countries. Then we have the Great Vowel shift after English spelling was largely standardized.

[@uberfuzzy]

I am entirely convinced that my kid learned to read from watching Moana and Encanto and Inside Out (for the 800th time) with subtitles. "Dont bring me down skibidi"

[@ZeKyra]

Oh hell yea, it's the weekend!

[@brentelledge8690]

Jim Carry doing Ice Ice Baby was an all time great childhood memory

[@JinjaBreadMan86]

Paul W.S. Anderson said RE is about rogue AI and laser halls. Uwe Boll said House of the Dead is about 3 people sharing one handgun and yelling reload is more effecient than one.

[@imraw17]

I have zero motivation to get good at Marvel Rival since learning about bots in Quick Play. So now everyone who literally installed the game yesterday is practicing in competitive mode instead of quickplay and making matches extremly rough because they are still learning the game while also playing with people who already know a ton about the maps and stuff. Makes zero sense and is a bad decision.

[@vadinshadow]

The first 10 minutes was so entertaining while high

[@Syt1976]

Fun thing with the letters learning by sound - that's how it was taught in elementary school when I was a kid. But that was 1980s in West Germany. :D (And tbh, about 90% of the time letters in German are pronounced the same way every time, none of that through/cough or blood/food/foot or sword/word kind of thing )

[@yate0128]

I luv the ends of the bread loaf

[@moneydung]

The way Jesse talks about quantum break is how I talk about binary domain

[@pascalmader1934]

Jesse, I got engaged last year and would like to marry in 2026. Thing is, I would love to have "Noone left to love" as wedding song, but for that I would like to play AW2 myself, but for that I would love to watch your remedyverse video first. So please, at some point in 2025 release the video? 😂

[@snowstalker36]

I've bought most of the Remedyverse games, maybe all of them up to Alan Wake 2. But I haven't played any. Perhaps Jesse's Magnum Opus will finally convince me to change that.

[@TheNecrolord]

Jesse your love for bread just earned you +1000 reputation with the German people. The land of bread awaits you. Come and browse our UNESCO heritage. You will love it. Also good bread (depending on the type) should be crunchy on the outside and fluffy inside. So I find the butt especially good with a bit of butter + cheese or jam.

[@TheSnorlax7]

Highly recommend watching "Castlevania" and its sequel series "Nocturne" (Season 2, Jan. 16 next week!)... Probably the greatest animated video game series, I've ever seen! (Honorable mention: Secret Level episodes!)

[@Gathbard]

I'm guessing the chicken snatcher is probably a fox or a mink. The "rodent sized" hint in particual points at a mink.

[@chrisAlfaiate]

is it the weekend?

[@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma]

Dinos evolved from Crocks. That's the latest iteration of the evolution of species. Birds evolved from small dinosaurs, much later on. Hundreds of species related to what we know as crocodiles were alive even before the continents formed. I seriously doubt many dinosaurs had any feathers early on.

[@TaigaTigress]

My understanding is that recent fossil discoveries have confirmed that velociraptors (which are actually quite small, unlike what we see in the movies) had feathers. =)

[@ryonalionthunder]

@@TaigaTigressvelociraptors were pretty late to the dinosaur party, so that would still be consistent with early dinosaurs not having feathers. But i dunno whether they did or not. 😅

[@LunnchBoxx45]

Yo, it's the WEEKEND!!!

[@S0faSoGood]

Can't wait for the remedyverse video Jesse

[@TruePerception]

Susan sort of rebounded to Namor when her and Reed were having a rough patch. It was fairly lopsided, as I remember.

[@analoren4745]

LET'S GET THAT CHRISTMAS ALBUM

[@aawlex2323]

I like bread ends

[@Anima_Libera]

12:35 The insurance companies refused to cover BECAUSE the CA government were trying to force insurance payments down. Insurance assess RISK and would calculate how much money to charge, if those numbers don't match, they would lose money, they have a math formula. The insurance company don't just "decide" not to cover it, if there were money to be made they would be the first to jump in.

[@petertriller8343]

As a German I feel I must say: That so called "bread" looks a lot like toast.

[@__Albin__]

Warframe being grouped with League and Marvel Rivals is strange, as it effectively share no similarities with them in terms of online experience. It's a chill cooperative PvE game, which Dodger as far as I've seen almost entirely plays solo.

[@esaedvik]

Path of Exile 2 is so much less frustrating and difficult vs PoE1. So damn good. I've tried to get into PoE1 since 2013, played a few hours a year until it just frustrated me to death. I have 200 hours in PoE2 and still haven't run into the same anxiety. It has issues with things being vague and the "early"(pre-L40) game being a bit dull in terms of available actually effective skills and combos. Currency drops are nonsensically low, at least for me. Monk is the fastest I've played, it's so easy. act1 was like 6 hours, act1+2 14h with a frost monk. I did have gear from my other characters (all sub-L40), so that helped.

[@benjamminraps1030]

It's Fairy Bread.. don't you dare come Down Under after us!!!

[@eetdotmp4]

I'm so keen for more of the Remedyverse™

[@TheFreepie]

POE2 advice for Jesse: First off the skills and classes are unbalanced at the moment, some abilities are just not feasible to level with and are outclassed by others. Hopefully by the end of early access with more skills and supports added and balance patches more skills are viable. With that disclaimer out of the way: 1. The most integral defence during campaign is elemental resistances, if you are getting 1 shot by a campaign boss's regular attacks chances are you have low resistance to whatever damage they're doing. Resistance on gear is good, runes can fill in some of the holes there, also can use charms if you're really struggling with a boss. 2. For attack users like monk and mercenary their damage scales a lot from their weapon which makes looking for weapon upgrades constantly essential. You can check the vendors in town and their inventory resets every time you level, that can help fill in gear needs 3. Generally speaking the strong leveling builds tend to exploit some combo of skills, many of the skills have been designed to be combod together, so one skill might electrocute enemies then the other does more damage to electrocuted enemies etc. So reading the skill descriptions and looking for those exploitable combos is the safest approach if you don't want to follow a build guide (which i dont think is as necessary as it was in POE1) I realise there's little chance Jesse actually reads this but maybe it'll help someone else lol, for reference I've got an ungodly number of hours in POE1 and POE2

[@TheBolondron]

Please believe me when I tell you that nobody wants backseating like this when they start playing any new game, least of all a streamer/youtuber, both Jesse and Dodger have complained and told horror stories about people who do this countless times in the past. Just let him play the game.

[@TheFreepie]

@@TheBolondron the main point of my post was the early portion tbh,because jesse was unsure if he was just bad at the game and the answer is no the game isn't balanced super well right now. In a game as complex as poe the tools available to make it easier can not be obvious, which is why jesse has had a particularly hard time getting through early acts. If he wants to struggle and figure things out on his own he can continue to do that, I'm not imposing anything on him by writing advice in a comment he can ignore. There might be other POE2 players who are struggling with the early game and find the advice helpful.

[@dopaminecloud]

All of this sounds like regular gameplay understanding to me. Stuff you'll clock by reading what you have available. Though it is always surprising how many people just don't read text in games.

[@__Albin__]

I'm not concerned about that the skill level of the general Marvel Rivals player base will increase. Because I'm enough of a competitive person to mostly play competitive mode, and as it's ranked my opponents and teammates will usually be at my around skill level. So no matter how good I am I'll get about a 50% win rate. And I very quickly disabled all chat, so if people shout at each other or me doesn't bother me in the slightest. So for me Competitive mode is really just skill-based matchmaking with rewards and no downsides.

[@toychristopher]

The fires are so horrible. I also lost my insurance this year. Climate change is real and absolutely horrible.

[@METALFREAK03]

45:42 If you read this Jesse, please watch Peter Kay's misheard lyrics. (he is a comedian in the UK)

[@Deiwulf]

POE2 is just badly designed so far, dw about it. Visual diarrhoea and soulslike mechanics just don't go together. It's basically impossible to methodically dodge shit in there (unless you're the ultimate sweat lord who lives and breathes a single game and study every single attack - and even then), people will play it as they did poe1, preemptively running in circles, but now panic rolling too.

[@Swerg20]

I dream of having a consistent full team to play marvel rivals with... I can't with randoms anymore though. It's one thing to be bad at games, but this game has reached popularity levels where anyone who has picked up a controller once is trying to play. Too many people who are just so awful. I am having trouble even playing with some of my friends.. one is a total drunk and not reliable. The other is a stoner and is just awful at every game we play. All he does is play video games, I don't understand how he remains so awful. 5th grade reading level though, admits that trying to read the tooltip screen for new heroes is too complicated for him and too hard to remember. He can't remember to use all his skills... But he always wants to play with me and gets mad when I tell him no, but if I play with him in this particular game it makes me rage like no other. I want to play rivals so much, I'm pretty good at it with any role, know multiple heroes and how matchups work, but nobody I know is the same as me and it makes it miserable to play especially when I try to teach or explain things to only fall on deaf ears. I love my friends, but I have been surrounded by idiots most of my life...

[@alphacode5]

i don't think jesse realized it, but Door isn't simply another word for Hatch, he is called WARLIN (door), which is MARTIN (hatch) upside down

[@JamesDittoOG]

For the kids out there: Jennifer Lopez got her break on "In Living Color" as a Fly Girl dancer.

[@souldozer69]

I put PoE2 on hold because I want to play as a monk, but it's not fun for me right now, so I'm hoping for changes

[@droppedcombofiend2707]

Yo it's the weekend!

[@Violinoknight]

Duo Christmas album OR... finishing another Life is strange playthrough. That will get more people. With respect.