Thanks for all the support! One quick correction - her ultimate will not stay after you die, sorry for getting that wrong
@TheK1ngGamingShow1Күн бұрын
When I read “how to ACTUALLY” I knew exactly what you meant. Thank you for this, it’s so exhausting when every guide I find is just a dude reading off the abilities
@Fuzzy_WolfКүн бұрын
One thing I'd do differently than you is use the shield more as a burst heal. Throw on DPS in the back or near a tank but don't keep it up forever. Because it only heals up when it's recalled or broken. The shields cooldown is based upon the damage it took up to 6 seconds of cooldown. At 15:45 you had a shield just sitting there at 12 heath for a while. Having it sit there with low heath isn't gonna help as much as recalling it and recharging it in most situations.
@-user_redacted-Күн бұрын
Yep, use it when it's needed and recall asap
@aidanlight2583Күн бұрын
Yeah I agree here. I mostly just toss it up for a second or 2 to top off low dps or tank then recall it and send elsewhere. I try to never leave it sitting with a full hp hero
@anonimitiКүн бұрын
He said you could reposition it to heal whenever it is more beneficial to do so
@mohammadasyrafmdyusoof9362Күн бұрын
Agree, I'd use this tip especially on fliers
@NoEphingIdeaКүн бұрын
just reading the channel name you should know this is just clickbait bs tryna make some money
@KuroKazumaКүн бұрын
I think you forgot to say that u can bring flying enemies down with your Shift (vortex) ability. Maybe I just missed that part
@nsggaming7096Күн бұрын
it is a neat abuility but in the heat of the battle, it can be difficult to execute. Since iron man is so far away, it can be difficult to gauge where you need to place it.
@sterlyngroehrig7503Күн бұрын
I found it doesn't always work actually, sometimes I'll nail iron man but it will drop him a little then he flies away. Then sometimes it will make him fall to the ground completely.
@LordSpectreXIIIКүн бұрын
@@sterlyngroehrig7503 Because you need to place the bubble BELOW him, so he starts falling from the top of the bubble all the way to the bottom before he can move again
@ShutterBud420Күн бұрын
@@LordSpectreXIIIyeah that don’t work. He’ll see that bubble and just fly away before u can do anything
@LordSpectreXIII23 сағат бұрын
@ShutterBud420 he can't fly if hes in the bubble
@TheArcangelblanco01Күн бұрын
For me the favorite part on these videos when you making us pay attention to the position of the characters and why there are there. both Storm (from previous video) and Susan lining up shots to hit multiple targets. Game really feel better after following these. Thank you!
@ThaMxUp22 сағат бұрын
a couple things I'd like to add this already amazing info you can do more than just move and reload while invisible, if you have a shield up you can take it back and retain your invisibility as well as if you sent out an orb you can explode it and retain your invisibility and secondly you can actually jump cast an ability and still have time to double jump before you hit the ground, which is why you can explode the orb while invisible, you jump, cast it, double jump and then explode it
@pedropolillo764722 сағат бұрын
This video is everything I needed! All other guides say “everyone just reads the ability list” and then proceed to read the ability list themselves. This is actually useful stuff, thank you!
@minyanismКүн бұрын
I think one think to keep in mind for your gameplay is to recall your shield a bit more often! It's definitely good to leave it at choke points or in the backline a little bit, but tbh teammates will forget in the heat of battle! Getting it recalled is a good way to keep the HP bar of the shield up that way it is more available to be used for longer periods of time!
@TruFireflyКүн бұрын
Definitely Subscribed after watching this. I haven't seen anyone else show angles or explained in gameplay. Great video man.
@murdoggКүн бұрын
The video was recommended multiple times, but i never clicked. I was like "i already played her for like 10-15 hours and made it to diamond that guy cant teach my anything new" but i clicked it in the end. Respect bro, really useful stuff here especially with the combo's and the def shield health pack lol. Keep it going brother❤
@CrazyJTheRapper20 сағат бұрын
Much better quality video than all the other coaches, using theatre mode and practice range. Thanks good tips, I subbed
@SleepingHowlКүн бұрын
Your guides are by far my favorites. Effective, clear, the format is perfect for all level of plays imo. 10/10
@necrosheyКүн бұрын
11:15 Are you sure invisible woman's ult will stay if she dies? I've had several games where my ult immediately disappears when I die (even if I have just used it). EDIT: It even immediately disappears when you die at 12:17
@MarvelRivalsMerchantКүн бұрын
yep I was very wrong about this, my bad
@angrysalad50 минут бұрын
Great guide. I now feel confident enough to play Sue competently. I was overwhelmed by her kit at first blush but I've played her since reading this and I'm loving her.
@shai310Күн бұрын
I think the animation cancel for the melee attacks is only important if you're getting dove on or if you're trying to peel for your teamates and the enemy is close ranged. Otherwise, don't force these 1v1 scenarios because IW does need to be very percise and you're putting yourself in a very vulnrable position. Another thing to note is to look at what characters your team has and how you can set up for them. For example: Strange can get a massive passive healing from IW's barrier if he positions his barrier infront of it thus his barrier will soak up most of the damage and he'll get a massive healing boost (kinda the same for Magneto), you can hide Scarlet Witch behind your ult and give her massive healing thus making it harder for enemies to burst her down, and unlike Luna and Mantis IW doesn't need to be close to Scarlet to do so and IW's barrier is massive for Scarlet since it can also block cc, damage and heal Scarlet during her ult. Also, you can actually fight really well around ledges with IW because you can position yourself to push the enemy of the map. So yeah she isn't as good at healing as other healers but her set up potential is what makes her fantastic.
@135Jaeger53122 сағат бұрын
Love the input and wait times of the combos! Havent seen anyone else do this kind of detail/effort. Thanks man!
@snowy5628Күн бұрын
Please just say the ability names, it just makes it more difficult fir controller players to follow your combo with key instructions
@JogVodkaКүн бұрын
True
@riotking7536Күн бұрын
literally just follow the onscreen instructions
@Heromus16Күн бұрын
Pc masterrace son
@andreasthekid2677Күн бұрын
Uhmmm.... no1 does that tho
@marquissmith7547Күн бұрын
@@andreasthekid2677Lot of knowledgeable guide makers that do. He's giving constructive criticism that will ultimately help expand his audience and overall quality
@nightman92222 сағат бұрын
For the up close combo, I would just start immediately with the shift into primary fire attack. You are already starting right next to them due to being invisible so it would make sense to preserve your E to pull them back into the shift bubble as they try to jump out or move away from your melee range. Although you do have that delay between E and M1 in the middle of your combo, I think keeping them in the bubble for longer and closer to your character will make things more consistent. Combo: Shift -> M1 -> Melee -> E (M2) -> M1 -> Melee -> M1 -> Melee If there is no delay with E (M2) -> Melee, then the combo would be better optimized as: Shift -> M1 -> Melee -> E (M2) -> Melee -> M1 -> Melee
@nightman92222 сағат бұрын
I will say that if they are already hurt, the E -> shift -> M1 like shown in the vid is straight up better because of how fast the damage gets dumped.
@punkypony5165Күн бұрын
Finally. A useful Invisible Woman guide.
@minyanismКүн бұрын
Personally, I prefer saving the E for the end of the melee combo. You can get Strange to 3/4ths of his HP bar. Shift -> Primary Fire Melee Weave Combo -> on the knockback of 3rd hit, E Launch inwards, repeat Primary Fire Melee Weave combo. This lets you get the full shift ability damage and two melee combos off, and I've found it to be a little more practical in team fights while also not leaving you with all of you abilities on cooldowns at the same time (staggers them and gives opportunity for variation). Good stuff though!
@AndJusticeforAll56720 сағат бұрын
Honestly it can be hard to even hit the full weave combo, or it takes just long enough for your third melee which does the most damage, to miss. Sometimes just vortex-3x melee- pull- primary to finish works on lower hp. The vortex also cancels into melee right away so I just start smacking people.
@TuskbumperКүн бұрын
I wish she could place her shield herself because she has little to no healing for herself when she isn't invisible. Without the shield she can only heal when she isn't helping her team.
@remyblasКүн бұрын
I'm actually glad it's like that because if she had that much self-sustain people would go off flanking like an assassin even more. The shield mechanic makes it so she's more effective playing with her team and actually healing.
@radicalradaghast7772Күн бұрын
You can place it on an ally and just stand next to it…it heals you too lol
@SmrGaming-ry3ifКүн бұрын
Bruh you can literally jump away and go invisible while healing over time. Just position yourself better and you’ll be able to always run away or get heals quickly
@Name..........Күн бұрын
She can, place it over tank and stand behind it
@waff6ixКүн бұрын
AS A INVISIBLE WOMAN MAIN I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL BUT HONESTLY IM GLAD THAT SHE DOESNT💯JUST JUMP AWAY TO SELF HEAL WHILE INVISIBLE👍🏾HAVING IT LIKE THIS PERFECT BALANCE IMO
@rodneyolayinka77426 сағат бұрын
I never comment on anything, but this video is extremely informative, i didn't expect that level of quality at all. Great guide thank you.
@cameronwood1134Күн бұрын
Great video man! I used to watch you when Apex was still alive ;) Great to see you playing Rivals and releasing content/guides. Maining Invisible woman and she dominates support if played very well, so damn fun!
@Rabblemuch22 сағат бұрын
these are the kind of guides im looking for when i need a guide. not the "lets read abilities" but... when to do what. positioning. what is your role etc. Thanks for that...
@donnervogel122914 сағат бұрын
Some healers can heal their allies through her ultimate-enemies outside the ult will see periodic outlines of their allies who are in it, allowing characters with non-targeted healing (like IW, Loki, Rocket) to still get mostly-reliable heals onto their team. This can be used to cut enemies off from Mantis or Warlock healing though!
@MrJman9001Күн бұрын
I've been cooking a lot of force push pull techs around ledges :), double jump very good for baited people in then hopping, over and shooting them back . Or jump off the edge, pull and jump back.
@kingxd3athКүн бұрын
3:52 funny melee attack is something i experimented with while using Squirrel girl. To mixed results
@xiaogwen27908 сағат бұрын
Great guide! Thank you so much for making this
@KryptiK0420Күн бұрын
Hell yeah bro, thanks you so much for this vid. Definitely learned some valuable knowledge. Keep this series going 🎉🎉
@kingxd3athКүн бұрын
Thanks for your Mr. Fantastic video. He easily became my 2nd dps after Squirrel girl. I didnt have an alternate dps after her til then. I did pretty good with invisible woman looking forward to doing better after this vid
@narutouchiha5464Күн бұрын
One thing I like to do is use the shift ability, and then as they’re about to walk out, pull them back in. This often kills squishies if there’s teammates around
@dreadzitodev488Күн бұрын
Good video, well explained everything!
@TheDud-do6wkКүн бұрын
You're really good at these videos keep it up
@jonsama506016 сағат бұрын
12:00 You can even push Psylocke, when she activates the ult theres a very brief window where she is still not untargetable (how the usual psylocke in your team will die while ulting 1v6) and you can push her away because even after she goes untargetable the momentum from the push still goes on !!!
@corteccsКүн бұрын
Finally, helpful information! Thanks so much for this.
@nsggaming7096Күн бұрын
shield is also useful to put up in front of melee enemies fighting allies to slow them down, this is very underrated.
@vizhal007Күн бұрын
This is the guide I was waiting for! My new main
@StyleshStormКүн бұрын
The first female character since January 2012 in a video game i ever truly enjoy playing since Viola from Soul Calibur 5. She's so fun. Not as devious or unpredictable as Loki my true main strategist but as a secondary she's best woman for me. Genuinely didn't know about her quick Melee combo from her projectile orb boomerang can be chained together like a South Korean action rpg. Neat thank you for that.
@Raju78787Күн бұрын
Nice time to main her now
@Detril9621 сағат бұрын
I wish they would enable a one click quick cast ult in her option. It's kinda hard to counter ult when you need an additional input for every ult that's about to blow in your face. Every other supports can do this and it shouldn't be hard to implement. Just hold to aim and release on cast like how league quick cast work.
@dxad_voxdКүн бұрын
Hi, good evening. Really useful and nice video. Your tips have helped me a lot. Do you have a video like this with Cloak and Dagger tips? If you dont have any video like that, could you make a video?
@renanrichel22 сағат бұрын
IMPORTANT: if u get pretty much inside of her barrier shield (its a much precise position), u can actually escape namor's ult
@wwr9021 сағат бұрын
Ive found that I play better with her if I dont pay attention to the scorecard. Shes a true tactical support who can tip the scales, but she gets outclassed in raw healing and dps
@darkknight-xm5cj21 сағат бұрын
Do one on adam warlock
@135Jaeger53122 сағат бұрын
1 other note. You and activate shift while it travels to knock down flying enemies
@asessiinoo23 сағат бұрын
Moon Knight can also kinda counter her ult after his Ult buff. If he drops his ult in the middle of her ult, its pretty much the area of her ult and moon knight gets atleast 1-2 kills. Doesnt make sense but it actually works
@nightman92222 сағат бұрын
Ive used invis woman's ult to save my teams against moon knights ult a few times. Although we cannot stand in there indefinitely, it buys enough time for people to get out of MK's ult zone without the whole team getting wiped before they can make it
@deafwatch7334Күн бұрын
Very good guide. But I have a question. Is the melee combo really that good? I'm asking because, I haven't seen you use it a single time in your shown gameplay. In general you use Invis Melee only once when you were hunting down a rocket. You also gave an example of assassinating someone from invisibility. While possible and very much doable, is that really something you should be going for as a healer? This might sound like critique, but I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts on this.
@MarvelRivalsMerchantКүн бұрын
the gameplay was recorded before I had learned the combo, as the the invis combo I have used it a couple times but yes as a support it's rare you'd use it
@deafwatch733415 сағат бұрын
@@MarvelRivalsMerchant I see. Thank you for the answer. Looks like a useful combo for niche situations, but I guess learning proper positioning has a lot higher priority.
@chunk1179Күн бұрын
amazing visuals❤
@voltsandvelocityКүн бұрын
Please make a guide for other Heroes too?
@NG.4769Күн бұрын
How high is your latency? I'm gonna try this when I get home, but with the limited amount of servers in the US, I'm not sure how possible a lot of this is for many people here, myself included, as I'm generally between 70-100ping.
@HumanitysCompanionКүн бұрын
her ult actually does get canceled whenever you die, same as cloak and daggers
@judisaladКүн бұрын
“i’m not gonna sit there & read you abilities.” proceeds to read her kit 😭
@MarvelRivalsMerchantКүн бұрын
Some people will be looking for that information, so i do include it, but you can skip over it with timestamps
@nathanlewis578218 сағат бұрын
Left out that the orb causes flyers to fall throughout the entirety of the hitbox.
@bullylucifer7533Күн бұрын
15k healing on invisible women bad in rank ? Like i got bashed by a tank player for doing 15k even tho i was getting targeted by their team
@purson8Күн бұрын
One thing I'd like to add is that her shield can technically take infinite damage I've been able to protect people from Scarlet Witch and Iron Man. The health is just kind of a suggestion, but of course it's going to break when it gets hit by something that big.
@itsnotmilyКүн бұрын
What
@snausagesmcgee3963Күн бұрын
@@itsnotmily I think what he means is that the shield will stop a projectile that causes more damage than it's current HP, even if it ends up breaking afterwards. For example, JARVIS REMOVE HIS BALLS does 1000 damage IIRC; if the shield is up even with a fraction of that damage, it will stop that entire instance of damage. Against a stream of constant damage such as a punisher ult, yeah a damaged shield is worthless. It might block a few bullets, but there is a stream of rockets and bullets right after that each being a separate instance of damage. But against a single massive instance of damage such as JARVIS DRAW HIM AS A SOYJAK even a 10 hp shield will block the entire 1000 damage projectile since it's just a single projectile.
@DJIronChefКүн бұрын
gonna come back to this video. still haven't touched the new characters yet lol
@nurannahadiislam7940Күн бұрын
Sue shield can block Namor ult but it requires a bit of positioning.
@PickledSmoothBrainКүн бұрын
I don't think you mentioned using E to push enemies off edges, especially when you're invisible there'll be plenty of setups for it or saving teammates by blasting the enemy off a cliff
@necrosis603715 сағат бұрын
I like pulling enemies off that ledge in the 3rd point of that peni Parker map. They fall in the pit and die or they just end up in front of my teammates
@EdgarORamos18 сағат бұрын
Doesnt it outheal Moon Knight’s ult?
@GarethMcD-zq8ei3 сағат бұрын
*Mind blown* Actually just made me see how horrible I was doing as her ;-;
@eddizzle407Күн бұрын
Literally got MVP with Sue right after watching this video.
@SentinelFuryКүн бұрын
11:14 I’m almost certain her ult disappears when she dies?
@tellusrs7773Күн бұрын
it does
@MarvelRivalsMerchantКүн бұрын
yes, my bad I was wrong about that part
@radzio72142 сағат бұрын
Where to find good teamplayers ?
@jonathannateesri5666Күн бұрын
Can her "E" pull in Jeff in ult form (after he swallows)?
@Boogi3DonКүн бұрын
11:28 invisible women’s ult is canceled after she is eliminated
@Archaeon6455Күн бұрын
Double confirmed, tested this out in Practice and in a vs Bot lobby just to be sure there were no Practice Range shenanigans because of free ult charge or instant respawn
@TheDud-do6wkКүн бұрын
Lasts like 2 seconds anyway
@MarvelRivalsMerchantКүн бұрын
yes my bad I was wrong, sorry for that
@spectrehubКүн бұрын
I don’t think her primary pierces enemies, and I think her ult does disappear if she dies early Edit: nope it does pierce, but I’ve definitely had ult end early from dying
@ilovesteakandfries7 сағат бұрын
does moon knight’s ankh recognize sue when she’s invisible?
@idieforpie305815 сағат бұрын
in my experience the ult does go away when you die
@ZeroenHawkКүн бұрын
Tell me what ya think but her double jump should be a 2-3 second cooldown instead. Support should have at least 1 way of escaping or getting away poor mantis man.
@necrosis603715 сағат бұрын
Mantis has burst damage, self heal and a stun, she’s fine lol. And the cooldown is already low
@JadeRavennКүн бұрын
I was thinking id practically never use the big combo in comp since thats all your cds just for the slowest least consistent "one shot combo" ever Then I literally just did it 5 minutes ago against a psylocke sitting on her own on the flank. How the tables turn psylocke Melee comboing is fun tho, people dont expect it like when you pull out the melee widow its comical
@fnfnjehsnhsddhdeewjw17 сағат бұрын
Dont just sit behind your teammates! Create soft off angles as well an use her invis to reposition! She isnt a static healer
@valerius-i8kКүн бұрын
actually good video
@The_Jbeast13 сағат бұрын
I understand why they wouldn’t have given her the ability to do so but I still wish she could place her shield in front of herself without needing a teammate
@tkm1875Күн бұрын
Her ultimate should trap enemies in if they're in they're inside or keep them out if it's formed with no enemies inside. That slow status effect is lame in this game.
@EricTheNarwalКүн бұрын
7:21 except that cloak wasn't in their bubble when they died. Im pretty sure that won't actually work anyway.
@breezer115819 сағат бұрын
If I’m playing strategists, I’m not gonna die of the back line supports…
@san.gyeopsalКүн бұрын
wait but when i die as sue my ult dies with me
@tellusrs7773Күн бұрын
yes thats what happens with a luna or mantis ult too lol
@Archer-hg9rwКүн бұрын
The combo is really nice but I don’t think it works in high ranks, don’t they just hear you?
@divatamer194Күн бұрын
She also goes invisible on any double jump.
@MrSabnova3415Күн бұрын
He mentions that
@Mr_rizztasticКүн бұрын
hello merchant I've hit lord on mr fantastic i have a video posted on it and i also have 40k damage and damage blocked as my best im not sure if anyones gone over that but if so i might just be the best in australia
@sugoitaka696319 сағат бұрын
everything in this video is amazing, but her ult "doesn't" stay if you die, it instantly gets removed if you die when your ult is going. So this information is incorrect.
@matthewnovotne5604Күн бұрын
I see literally hundreds of hero “guides” that literally just tell you what the hero’s abilities are… like thanks I definitely haven’t just seen the hero in game 🤦♂️
@ShOwObaКүн бұрын
...I just realized the wall shield used in cover for infinite heals is just you using it as a TF2 dispenser. Engineer TF2 in Marvel Rivals lmfao
@tellusrs7773Күн бұрын
exact same thing i realized too lol
@reinaldovilla4149Күн бұрын
huuuuuge, putting the button counterpart! for those guys, PS buttons?
@necrosis603715 сағат бұрын
Are you talking about the push/pull ability? Cuz you press R1 then it allows you to choose whether to pull or push. R2 is to push and L2 is to pull
@reinaldovilla414914 сағат бұрын
@necrosis6037 i dont play PS. I'm talking about the content itself, from the video i seen of Mr Fantastic, a prior video they made. Where he gives the rundown but only PC buttons. Just thought it was a great addition to add console buttons alongside PC buttons. I can translate it in my head, but for ease of use (for the next guy)
@fub3991Күн бұрын
11:16 untrue if u die u lose the ult
@danielcarroll8889Күн бұрын
"What might not be so clear..." Haha, very funny. Looking forward to the guide. Keep up the good work 👍
@BubonicPlague1347Күн бұрын
lol so ez on pc , I wanna see someone do this at that speed and accuracy on controller….
@sterlyngroehrig7503Күн бұрын
Not true by the way, if invisible woman dies your ult dissappears too, ive been playing alot of her
@GhostyChives21 сағат бұрын
False, once she dies her invis shield ult goes away.
@DonJoe-n2dКүн бұрын
You use your right click not enough fr 😂
@JadeRavennКүн бұрын
5:40 god I wish she was
@lgisop1704Күн бұрын
I love the invisibility cheeks
@lgisop1704Күн бұрын
I meant to say cheese but I already know you won’t believe me
@lilsavage337Күн бұрын
They need to fix the game you have mf on 1 health getting hit an not dieing because of instant heals it's stupid its about to make me drop the game
@artmanrom58 минут бұрын
Make shorter guides with real content, not that over-extended one with very little substance.
@henrikrdland6304 сағат бұрын
I hate that she cant put shield on herself. Super lame design
@joem7462Күн бұрын
I love selecting healer and leaving my other healer to heal all by themselves while I dps 😊
@tengoelblickyКүн бұрын
Lame
@emmthor835718 сағат бұрын
“Yall not build like me” ahhhh comment
@joem746210 сағат бұрын
@@emmthor8357 sarcasm is just not existent to you huh?
@Irish_CCКүн бұрын
Merch I’ve watch you for a while but stick to apex rivals isn’t your ballpark srry