Marvel Rivals - FPS Affects Damage & Movement? - I Tested It To Find The Truth

[@ThunderMan2212]

Huh! I initially thought this was an issue with a missing deltaTime calculation somewhere that would be easy to fix, but judging by the results of this testing plateauing at 120 FPS, it actually seems like it might be something a bit more complicated. I hope it gets ironed out in the near future, whatever it is; Wolverine being suddenly unable to do his job at certain FPS thresholds is a pretty raw deal.

[@cctz_1]

What else could it be ? Some server side problems ? They may have a manual cap at 120 fps as it seems that 120 is the intended framerate for how theyve designed damage and abilities

[@Nobody-st7xh]

Maybe UE5 related

[@ThunderMan2212]

@@cctz_1 Given that I don't have the source code and I'm not overly well-versed in UE5, I can't say anything for certain. This is likely an issue that would need to be investigated in a bit more depth. That being said, I can think of a few potential culprits: - Depending on how they're spawning hitboxes/projectiles and whether or not they're tied to the animations somehow, the firing rate bugs might be a quirk of how animations are rendered and looped at lower FPS. This would explain why the issue specifically affects fully-automatic weapons with distinct animations for rounds firing (Punisher, Star-Lord, Wolverine). Tying a game-affecting action like that to the animation seems like a terrible idea to me, but I'm also not on a professional game development team with strict deadlines to clear. - There could be a netcode issue where FPS affects how certain packets are sent and received by the client, with hitboxes and tracers being spawned at the wrong rate or movement being applied at the wrong speed due to game speed discrepancies. This strikes me as highly improbable given that servers are usually supposed to do most of the heavy lifting when it comes to things like player positions and damage and a client's FPS shouldn't affect this, but netcode is a complicated subject and I have no idea what this game handles on the frontend or backend, or how. - We also can't entirely rule out some deltaTime flarkery, though it seems less like "they forgot deltaTime" and more "the calculation involving deltaTime is acting weird." Maybe they accidentally put in deltaTime compensation twice, or they're using some under-the-hood calculation that does weird things at low framerates. Again, can't know for sure without having the equations in front of me.

[@Shaar_]

If ur not multiple everything with delta time ur committing a crime , it's basic video game programming

[@cctz_1]

@@ThunderMan2212 I see. Now that Ive seen some other examples of it I think its indeed a netcode problem. Some ppl are claiming it looks like the prediction system is getting confused by lower fps players and compensating in a way that causes this bug. But theres no real way for us to know rn

[@huuminbloodborn7570]

The biggest thing i'm seeing / realizing is that, if i remember correctly the best wolverine player has a "bad" pc. He's being limited.

[@gaalahad1]

He doesn't even play on 30fps my guy, also the guy in the video didn't notice but he ended the animation from the grab sooner on the 120fps that's why wolverine was hitting more. I just tested in the training range now, it's pretty much the same.

[@ZachkTV]

Also, they're really underselling the difference in kill time with stuff like Starlord. Those are the times where you just got away with a sliver of health, but got healed or killed them at the last second.. but instead, you're gunna die because of that slight change of 'milliseconds that dont matter'.

[@ProfestionalCrayonEater]

I don't blame him but this vid coulda been better researched but i don't expect him to know every intricate timing of each character either i would take this vid with a grain of salt

[@shrekupine4445]

Just buy good GPU lmfao brokies

[@pfg8240]

@@shrekupine44459/11

[@magi1134]

When strange makes a portal i immediately lose fps

[@BasedCompany]

For real 😂 whenever he opens a portal my game turns into 8 bit

[@gawrgura3767]

R you both on PC? Cuz i have the same issue and my friend on console (Ps5) never had this problem

[@ionfilter0304]

@gawrgura3767 i'm on Pc and this game takes a lot of resources. I play overwatch2 on ultra setting and run 200 FPS smoothly.. This game i have to lower all the settings just to keep 80 FPS. Consoles are built with the same components making it a network issue most times. PC have many variable parts so trouble shooting is much more difficult

[@gawrgura3767]

@@ionfilter0304 my ow2 is running on 200 fps aswell.... well ig they will release performance updates if its that crucial

[@Lightout50]

i use his portal to make them lpook at each other and ive crashed people

[@laserkirby9373]

Since the genre is competetive multiplayer, I can use fighting games as example. And as mentioned in 6:51 , there's a whole second of increased time for the low fps player. In ANY fighting game, adding around 62-66 frames _(1.1sec)_ to an attack for one player only and calling it unnoticeable, is clearly a misinformed take on how important every second is in these competetive environments. In short, that 1 second extra to kill, he's getting a triple Loki healing shot, good job you missed the kill because of your shitty CPU and nothing else.

[@MarvelRivalsMerchant]

the 1 whole second is a very big deal, but the 0.1 second difference from 60fps to 120fps isn't so much, that's what I tried to explain there

[@BagelBoi4000]

@@MarvelRivalsMerchant 0.1 seconds isnt a lot but it adds up, if theyre getting healed that could go from 0.1 to 0.3, and over the course of an entire match the amount of damage you do would overall be lower so you might end up with like 5% less ult charge or something.

[@AvgSkillGamer]

​@@BagelBoi4000at 0.1 there are more things that would screw you over than that. In the grand scheme of things if you are good enough it doesn't matter. The horizontal movement and wolverine DPS however from 30-120 are absolutely terrible.

[@ManiakGear]

Exactly what I was thinking. Have a conversation with someone who's trained to hit trigger switches on single frames to link moves or cancel animations and tell them its insignificant.

[@LaM0NK3Y]

One second is much more important in fighting games than in team games. Fighting games are so much more micro focused. It’s a bigg-ish deal but in a game with healing and damage from external sources there’s already “randomness” for when a combo will truly kill You can see this when watching vods of fighting games vs marvel rivals, going back 10 seconds in a fighting game feels like forever and 10 seconds of a team fight feels minuscule

[@ianfromspace4740]

Don't call it a "tech" when it's literally just hardware related

[@megelegend9968]

But hardware is technology so it is tech

[@terrakage4462]

I mean technically tech is accurate here since it has to do with hardware tech that technically affects the technology in the game. On a technicality.

[@taetrrtot6205]

​@@megelegend9968 But we're specifically talking about technique not technology

[@202adr]

It has to do with the specific animations themselves, they aren’t scaled up or down, properly for different frame rates when set to custom fps.

[@xxnightmarexx_pr6069]

Ah yes the hidden Doctor Strange tech: having a better pc

[@cctz_1]

This is such an amateur mistake, not multiplying by delta time in the code

[@chrisr4066]

Is it something they can fix via patch?

[@thefroggybannana]

Small indie devs

[@cctz_1]

@@chrisr4066yeah should be straightforward

[@ibsafato5937]

Now that is true for once​@@thefroggybannana

[@thepandasdoitbetter]

@@thefroggybannana ahaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa nope

[@Rathial]

another "tip" I haven't really seen mentioned is making sure vanguard is turned off if you have league or valorant installed on your pc. Vanguard can absolutely nuke the performance of your game

[@onlineenth4454]

gotta test this one out ty

[@ManOfF1re]

+1

[@Vedant_Bhoir]

@MarvelRivalsMerchant can you test this

[@GokieShorts]

this is true although i do not turn it off (because i move between games), vanguard has shown to affect fps on other games too

[@youmu7917]

shit really? I have it off everytime, and only on when I play valorant. Good to know if real.

[@fatalfoams]

I remember Flats was talking about how shifting forward into ult as strange was broken and I didn’t understand why lol

[@karmatick4418]

The question is... Do you die faster with higher FPS?

[@mattimhiyasmith]

lol

[@Ziyoblader]

I mean like the wolverine example that depends on your opponent if he or she is running 30 or 120 fps lol

[@Meez_G]

i felt that way honestly i was playing on 60 hz switched to 120 feel like i just die faster

[@notalent7369]

The game feels more smoother. But you should also keep in mind that in fights high FPS drops can lead to higher gpu latency. For instance if you have 240fps and then it drops to 180fps fast, then you can feel it ingame. So I recommend you to cap it to a "good average" FPS for lower gpu latency and more smoothness.

[@Kinze02]

I just think that a game that has its models looking like cartoons shouldn't be so hardware demanding like this.

[@EhurtAfy]

Yeah, but the game has some extremely demanding rendering tech available, it's an impressive looking game. Style doesn't mean that much, I've seen game sequels that require 2-4x the resources, such as with series that span multiple console generations. BUT, at least on PC you can nearly double your framerate on low settings. Using state-of-the-art Lumen GI and DLSS on Ultra settings, even my RTX 3090 barely maintains 100fps, but I can get 240 on lower settings

[@Yuusfw]

Its not that demanding, I can play it with my ryzen 5 5600gt, which is a very mid integrated graphics

[@MrZega000]

I get between 12-40fps depending on the map and the position of Jupiter. But I'm laughing at this because the difference is so negligible compared to Helldivers 2. In that game my FPS is horrid and your movement speed=FPS meaning I move so slow it hurts. Everyone can outrun me so I take the jetpack and medic suit with 6 stims so I can (try to) keep up. New PC coming this Friday, can't wait.

[@cockylocky]

Congrats, man! I'm waiting for the new GPUs to come out so that I can buy an used 7800 XT or something.

[@elliottstevens7168]

Before you you completely take a crap on this guy.. know his coming from apex.. you probably aren’t that good.. give him a shot.

[@Rakso_F]

Risk of rain 2 flashbacks...

[@0-Placeholder-0]

Exactly what I thought of.

[@thepigeonman_]

Me when elite spawns are tied to fps

[@Frozoken]

Good thing that wasnt a competitive multi-player game tho

[@wickedwiccann]

at least it's not really noticeable in this game.. loader flying across the map at mach 7 will forever be funny

[@queenofrodents]

Go go gadget 7 million elites by stage 3

[@koshkamatew]

3:50 arent some of these things just discrepancies due to low fps recordings? if you were playing at 1fps, those kill times would have been 2 seconds. not because you kill slower in game, but because on the first frame that takes a second the enemy is alive, and on the other frame after another second they are dead, marking the measurement at 2 seconds. on 30 fps this discrepancy is still noticeable, but on 120+ fps the extra frames add very little difference to the recording, capping out at whatever framerate you record on (120 fps in this case?), meaning that the kill time stays consistent doesnt necessarily have to be true due to the doctor strange flight ability being clearly affected by fps, but if you measured the time to kill by looking back at your recording, then it definitely is the reason (and not the game itself)

[@pinnacleexpress420]

Good coverage. Wolverine started attacking earlier on 120fps

[@xKunoz]

that kinda sucks because i main strange and the flight boost with higher fps can actually be a gamechanger because he can use his ult in midair and cancel it to catch ppl off guard

[@JaneTheLame]

the extra horizontal movement helps with escaping Jeff ult too if you cant get vertical enough in time

[@Inclienn]

I believe this is an animation issue, idk what the distance issue is but the TTK issue is related to how fast the animations play out, star lord can reload in his ult faster when the frames are higher, wolverine can swing more often when the frames are higher. Again the distance thing is crazy but the main issue seems to be the animations and how they were implemented and are involved in the game process thats why its caps at a certain FPS because you cant gain anything more after the cap

[@MadCityVL]

Yea i did some testing and its, longer the animation=the most dps will be effected. I bet namor has some effect with his hover.

[@thememewalker]

This is such an amazing video, the amount of effort put behind the research, the details on the relevant cases, and the tips at the end are all so incredibly helpful

[@ImCamelBoy]

just so you guys know, these issues were solved by some kid on reddit and he posted what code to change in one of the config files so animations arent so resource demanding. I can confirm it fixed all these issues but the game developers decided to block access to config files and threatening bans if people mess with it. meaning they know how to fix it atleast but the fact that they havnt probably just means they gonna fix all the other issues like dr strange portal causing frame spikes all in one patch. but yah the main issue is how resourse demanding all these animations are and it causes low end pcs to miss hitboxes or suddenly lag effecting animations. sometimes wandas "shift" gets cancled cause the game thinks you are double pressing even when you are not. so many bugs

[@tindekappa9047]

I am stating the obvious here but if you've got 30 FPS you've got bigger problems than this.

[@testosteroneimmunesystembo3869]

Not the point

[@JayceCH.]

Strange himself tanks it.

[@jonah-b7k]

Stop making excuses for this.

[@47dynasty28]

No the problem is this games optimisation, stop making excuses for the massive company you boot licker

[@BasedCompany]

The game isn't very optimized. The art style is nice, but graphically there's no reason it should run as poorly as it does.

[@elfireii328]

By the way, there’s a display setting that shows your current fps in-game. Please use that I’m conjunction with these types of videos in the future. Makes it easier to keep track of things.

[@Zouga007]

Look at the top right. It's enabled.

[@Vibricks]

Isnt it already enabled? It's just small

[@Gooner9-11]

I can explain it from a developer perspective: -The most basic stuff is this, some command get calculated client-side and some performed server side, there will never be a multiplayer game that relies everything on client or rely everything on server side, the closest game that relies mostly on server side is Street Fighter V, and people hate that game. -Looks like from the data, the game treat Button Hold as constant command, meaning if you hold left button, the game will keep sending Left input to the server -Here's the kicker, when your client (your PC) didn't send any command, the game treat it as "Input neutral" even if you're holding the key -The number of input you can send is based on your FPS Basically Someone with 120 FPS can send "Left" input 120 times Someone with 30 FPS can only send "Left" input 30 times, the rest of the time, you will be input "neutral" this is why Strange's can fly further left if you're holding Left on a 120 FPS machine Any character with "reload" animation (This includes Wolverine that can stop attacking after 4 hits) also get affected by this, since 30 FPS guy can only send 30 commands (hypothetical) every second, other than that, the game treat them as not pressing anything, this caused the guy with 120 FPS can start the "attack again" command earlier than the 30 FPS guy. At the end of the day, this will show on 2 extreme side (30 FPS guy and 120 FPS guy) to show "the worst thing that can happen in that situation" Most game generally treat this as "whatever", similar to how people will accept that a 30ms guy will have better play experience than people that play with 120ms.

[@Bat-0_0]

Hopefully they address this and the absurd ping pikes that's been going on.

[@jaxxarus4994]

I'm sorry, but I find the Bucky just eating your ult to the forehead at 1:51 just absolutely hilarious

[@whatispleasant]

Big Respects to you thank you truly for testing and informing this out

[@windthugness]

My Nvidia GTX 1050 doesn’t like the sound of this 😪

[@thefriendlessgamer8552]

tried to play on mine cant get past 99 even the steam deck is a little better.

[@MyKlaudijus]

GTX 1060 here

[@thepandasdoitbetter]

@@MyKlaudijus i get 144 fps but at a lower resolution game still looks great and runs well loading times are longer and a few shader issues sometimes to load but when all in 120 to 144 fps constant

[@z821]

Hoe do you get it to 120 ? Mine is max at 60fps in game. With everything set to low and 720p.. !!​@@thepandasdoitbetter

[@FireJach]

I have 970 and the game worked well before the update (Christmas fest)

[@RandomPenguin-lj1et]

yo btw for star lord and punisher its due to the lower frame rates + high rates of fire, on 30 fps you might fire a bullet on the 4th frame and on 120fps you might fire a bullet on the 15th.

[@RandomPenguin-lj1et]

this is also more apparent in wolverine as he has an insane rate of fire

[@EmDashYT]

Seems like it has something to do with the difference between animations being tied to framerate, while also being tied to damage output (like bullets firing or claws swiping) yet damage HITS are calculated server-side so if the animations slow down, the attacks are sent out slower, and then the bullets hitting the enemy will be registered further apart (or swipes in wolverine's case), at least that's what I'm seeing.

[@ClaudioBOsorio]

Hey man, amazing work. Your testing will be invaluable for the developers. They will sort it out much faster than expected because of your input.

[@Kitto0]

Seeing this got me to think about Winter Soldier primary fire as well 🤔. It feels weirder to aim & shoot on lower fps to the point your weapon basically don't register hits on longer range when visually it looks like it should. I do realize his weapon is not a hitscan but a projectile based (strangle design decision) so placebo wise it makes me feel that character could be a victim of this game flaw as well. If you can, please confirm in your next testing that as well since i'd love to play bucky more if his shots feel consistent in crunch situations.

[@LinteirSomeZebra]

*For the last part, additional feature to increase FPS:* You can decrease *screen resolution* (while keeping it Fullscreen) in accordance with your normal resolution. _For example:_ If your normal resolution is *1920x1080,* you can set up *1280x720* - it would make your game running as a quarter from your normal screen and increase FPS. Works good in many games, especially competitive ones.

[@ConorTimmonsDesigns]

Makes me curious if there’s a difference between PC and console🤔

[@Im_JustAFish]

unless they play on series x or ps5 with a monitor as that is the only way to get 120 fps on console

[@justjoddat]

The devs can work on this and shouldn't be hard.

[@Accel_Lex]

Dang. A lot learned while I've been away from the game for a bit. 👏🏻

[@Synergy4375]

I notice that Laging players also suffer from damage output and received problems… which could potentially stack with the FPS problem. Eg- you either get free kills on the lagging player as they are stuck in place in you pov, however the dmg needed seems to be a lot more than normal Or You shooting the lagging player to then suddenly be chunked for 250hp or more depending on who and the situation. Point is the servers suck which we know they do…. and or it’s possibly an exploitable problem that people could force.

[@imanevilpairofsocks]

While I def want this addressed, I think people don't realize how common an issue this is in games. Plenty of games I've played recently and watched in depth testing/guides on have mentioned listed stats don't always line up with in game results.

[@masterluxio1]

Risk of Rain 2's DLC had this issue where the enemy spawn rate was directly tied to the amount of fps. And it could be a real issue for new heroes moving forward.

[@the_big_noise_5]

7:47 Jarvis clip that

[@kingofgames259]

But you can see his teammates are red and enemies are blue so there were no enemies left when the shot landed

[@the_big_noise_5]

So not only that Iron Man flew above your head but so did the joke

[@osvy5144]

good video! however i believe to truly make a conclusion, a macro should have been used to avoid human imperfections.

[@PHENIX-sk3ek]

like Uncle Ben said "With great PC comes great DPS"

[@frost9681]

For the most part, i feel like some of these are so minute especially when considering all the disadvantages you are already at playing below 120fps. Theae arent the games to take competitively seriously when your hardware cant keep up, unfortunately. The majority of opponents will have an inherent advantage over you that far exceeds a couple of miliseconds. The Dr Strange and Wolverine cases are more agregious though unfortunately

[@BigJambu]

It's probably the reload that gets slowed down then if ironmans uni beam and cloaks primary are unaffected. So your tests should be against a target with more health so you're more likely to need to reload. Assuming this is in a real game and you dont have the luxury of 100% accuracy this could be more significant (but still not massive) than your tests have proven Vs Luna Snow in training. It's a bug they absolutely must fix either way. Thanks for doing this experiment!

[@mr.jbusiness6679]

idk if anyone will see this but what he said about frame gen is right but, if you have issues like your game is freezing or fps is just tanking I really would recommend just trying it. I was really struggling with this games optimisations putting everything on low and it would still freeze but, turning Frame gen on pretty much fixed it for me. However if your hitting 60fps and below when playing you should not turn on Frame gen as you most likely will just get latency, you need at least 120+ for frame gen to properly work I feel.

[@endersugar42]

this is what helped me as well lowkey

[@deadsoldiertr]

I couldn't understand, what are you saying?

[@blindn1nj4]

"idk know"

[@mr.jbusiness6679]

@@blindn1nj4 damn bro

[@mr.jbusiness6679]

@@deadsoldiertr how? I feel like I explained it pretty well and its not complicated. what do you not understand

[@alternatecheems8145]

It seems like a deltaTime issue and the developers probably developed console first and forgot not all platforms have uniform fps across the matchmaking pool

[@silverlyder]

This game has serious optimization and mechanical problems Btw thanks great video

[@ThisIsAUsername69]

9:00 Frame gen needs to go off because it doesn't fucking work. Test it. Lock your FPS to 30, you know how choppy it looks. Now turn frame gen on, and it looks the same. Its not only input latency but also doesn't generate any frames at all. It is broken! Idk if DLSS frame gen works, but FSR for sure does not. If you have Rivatuner you can see your frame time going wild too when you turn it on. Which shouldn't be the case if it worked properly afaik. Also frame gen in general is fine if you have minimum 120 fps but a 240hz screen. The input latency isn't that noticeable. Even 60 base fps is fine if you really wanna smoothen things out.

[@MaliEndz]

I actually did notice a movement speed boost but it wasn’t because of framerate it was because of latency or lag. The symbol that shows up when theres a network issue. Its annoying

[@kylehsu2137]

Yes, NetEase’s NARAKA has the same problem, it’s very terrible

[@rippenzong2455]

I was watching a streamer yesterday a_seagull and he seems to have found that the games ping is also tied to fps. Tested this myself and it checks out even in the training range. It's not a cpu bind either since the scaling of ping to fps I nearly linear from 5 fps up to 300. This much fps causes this much latency. It makes no sense

[@ChubbsWho]

this makes complete sense as to why i stopped playing the game, it was infuriating and nobody would believe me that it was happening, i had no idea what was causing it but now i know, cool.......I know im due for an upgrade but come on, not only is UE5 not ready for games yet (no game should release that cant hold a steady 144fps at 1440p on lowest settings, which is the AVERAGE across steam users) but FPS based mechanics existing in 2024? Come on, this game had so much potential.

[@SnakeEngine]

They should have used fixed timestep to keep deltatimes consistent, but Unreal Engine doesn't offer one as it is not designed for deterministic games. That's the problem. The easiest fix is to just cap framerate to 60 on the engine side.

[@christopheroldfield1066]

It looks like the entire game loop is being rendered at 120 frames per second, along with the video update. Technically speaking, if you were only rendering 30 frames per second, you would have a lot more time to be considering things like "does the player have the fire button down.. yes? shoot" It looks like these checks are being made at the same rate as the video updating, rather than at the speed of resource availability.. which means, as you turn up the frames per second, you are also turning up the frequency it checks to see "Hey, is the button down? Yes? send the message to the server that I've fired.."

[@Landofalcon007]

Destiny 2 has infamously had lots of issues tied to fps. Weird game engine issues.

[@fransbrewis4776]

I wanted to say the same thing. In Destiny you do more damage at high fps but also takes more damage. Wonder if you take more damage in Marvel Rivals as well. But I don't think there are many people that play at 30fps lol

[@supersonic4863]

​@@fransbrewis4776Yeah youre underestimating the average persons ability to deal with 30fps gameplay. I consistently have 30. Now id rather have higher, of course, but my pc is too shit for that.

[@vodkastudios4170]

Everything just kind of feels janky in this game. I hope they can fix all of the issues, I will probably revisit it every month or so and see if it feels better. This is TECHNICALLY p2w at the moment, you are just paying for a better PC.

[@calcutlass]

Feels (and looks) like a mobile game IMO.

[@emirlerdtm6774]

Its made by a mobile game company, not suprising lol. ​@@calcutlass

[@CEPangolin]

This is actually a massive problem and something that should be addressed when it comes to official games. What should have killed someone and it didn't because the computer was average specs and not giving 120+ frames and that lowers damage. Ya this will make A LOT of problems for official stat tracking.

[@ShadalooFrieza]

Don't worry guys I'm just testing something out for KZbin I'll be out to help in a second 😂 Not gonna lie I laughed a little when you got in game and did it

[@bsavagestudios]

I'm fairly familiar with Unreal Engine 5 and there are a few different ways this could be happening depending on how they calculate the passage of time in the game. It also seems to be calculated differently for certain characters or abilities as well. I'm very curious as to what is actually happening behind the scenes in engine. I highly doubt we will ever get a peek at the code though...

[@Eilanzer]

Interesting that if this where in Overwatch people would be picking pitchforks already XD

[@TheDwarburton]

We only just started hearing about this over the last couple of days lets be honest.. Hardly a game breaking issue!

[@beerasaurus]

So some things in the game were coded to react to frame rates which is probably some mistakes or miscommunications in the dev cycles.

[@georgeb9977]

I feel like this might be related to hitscan characters. Things like seem to only appear with certain hitscans.

[@nickkerr6068]

Does the kernel anticheating software reduce framerates on pc?

[@gaylaxia]

Riot Vanguard Anti-Cheat can supposedly reduce FPS in your games, so it is possible that this Anti-Cheat does as well, but who knows. It definitely ain't helping FPS though.

[@Shadowsmoke11]

That’s it. I’m going out buying an RTX 5090 gpu for this.

[@BastyTHz]

from programming perspective, frame render thread are in the line with main thread, the higher your frame rendered means main thread dose not need to wait more. that why its more responsive in almost all games. only few dev cares about this.

[@RTV-t3d]

This is a big issue I think that due to lower frame rates it is sending information to the servers slower, so if u have higher fps then it would send data faster but again this would mean that every single characters time to kill would be different but its only on some characters. I hope this gets ironed out and fixed and I also know about some other bugs I have encountered on this game since I don't have a strong enough pc to run this game on higher fps.

[@justareplica]

It makes sense, because you are six universes ahead of your opponent.

[@curtis1397]

I definitely notice a difference, just upgraded from a 1070 mobile to a 4070 super. It's like night and day.

[@willsniff8852]

Can you test it with Namor (orb ability) or Scarlet Witch (ult)?? They both have a similar lift/float animation to stranges fly. Ive felt Namor orb is so slow it just leaves me trapped....maybe its an fps thing

[@SAVAGENEDVED]

Are you jumping then using orb and holding space to float?

[@jameslordoflies]

Playing as rocket ill paint someone with fire for a solid second before it start registering, especially at range, theyll be taking damage behind cover, vise versa

[@nh0522]

yeah the doctor strange and wolverine thing is absolutely busted. is definitely a major advantage in mirror matchups whoever has more fps

[@pinnacleexpress420]

In case it wasnt obvious, Starlord's ult should basically be the only one that matters, strictly because it applies its damage across so many hits. That's a small sacrifice I'd be willing to make in order to have the game more optimized when its already pretty modestly optimized. Would be verry different if you were shaving off .1s TTK for every weapon but I think its just his ult. Also wondering if it impacts Iron Man's flight maneuverability since that is super reliant on acceleration.

[@DD-fs7pg]

The strange one is actually a big deal since he uses that tech specifically for his ult.

[@kursna]

Ping also affects fps. If you aren't able to consistently cap the fps, ping can bring you down to over half of your normal frames

[@ProfestionalCrayonEater]

if you use super resolution when hitting targets 100+ meters away there is a diff in clarity using quality setting and the super resolution from such far distances (kinda less clarity) but you need to like get 1 cm from the screen pixels and look at the diff and see if you prefer it. only other thing is nvidia and amd have their slop frame tech turn that shi off 😭

[@mikejowan3340]

Maybe this has something to do with frame rounding on low hertz servers, like how the old cod games suffered

[@jefz1576]

+the lag compensation and the tick rate are absolutely awful, like battlefield, but for a competitive FPS

[@iromez1812]

6:31 I like how he's gaslighting players that 1 second is a little bit of time in a shooting game

[@thephantomclaw4517]

with a magik combo i use, if im lagging it wont kill, it will leave them on exactly 1 hp. its m1, meele, tap m2, m1, meele

[@dongandon4087]

We need doctor strange buff! 😂

[@OtcheR_]

It feels like iron man team up with hulk is affected by FPS after all. Had one in ranked as iron man myself... Well, I was noob but it really felt like he dealt damage faster

[@TheShockzero]

Might be better if you actually animation cancelled Starlord's ultimate start-up by just holding your primary fire down first.

[@Xokzu]

It's the ultimate form of pay to win!

[@geckosaure]

Very nice video thanks. I think you're maybe a bit dismissive of how impactful this is. For example when you kill "only" 6% faster with Starlord ult, this is actually a massive deal for the high end matches / players. Either way really good data.

[@Jebu911]

Hope they fix these minor issues. Im not autistic enough to think 0.01 second difference will do anything in my games but might screw over some matches for few players in the world. Id rather have it run on 60fps silky smooth than with 120 where it randomly drops between 80-120 depending on what kinda ults someone is throwin around.

[@DieHard1912]

funny enough my new main atm is doc so this is good to know. I use RTX 3080 TI my game crashes out after 2-3 hrs if this thing could get optimized for 360 frames like siege we be in there

[@Invalourrr-vb3xo]

I wish youd just show the clips side by side, would make the comparison easier to see

[@mattimhiyasmith]

would be interesting to see how things change if you change mouse refresh rate, also how is this on console?

[@Raiden_S12]

nothing changes with mouse polling rate (other than increased CPU load which may cause lower fps)

[@KillJared]

console it doesn’t matter at all

[@Meez_G]

thats insane how is this not fixed also games starts lagging when using constant abilites like glichy lag

[@Jadekanji]

Man im poor, and my pc is poor, so this is so unfair

[@PurpleFreezerPage]

7 years from now someone's gonna post a video called "Rivals on Launch Was Wack" and it's gonna cover this

[@Nexert]

Once human had the same issue with your movement speed being tied directly to your fps. game was also made by netease lmao

[@fortunawolf8852]

Is this what became the game after with among other things the lootboxes + the optimization of the games, 200k of player against 20k now. I still give a few months before Marvel Rivals becomes a dead game or another niche game

[@emirlerdtm6774]

​@@fortunawolf8852Nah, this games release was almost perfect. The only issues this release has is bots in qp and delta time, nothing else is bad about it except balancing wich is unavoidable. Best Competitive FPS release of the year imo.

[@KevinAugustt]

Turning super resolution sharpening down lowers my FPS

[@BIackingOut]

So basically. Have a 4090, run strange, open portal and you get a 1% buff

[@xxcridonxx7614]

It’s more like have a 30 series nvidia gpu equivalent or higher

[@JaneTheLame]

@@xxcridonxx7614 my 1660 super runs the game at 120 just fine so literally anything 20 series or over would work

[@xxcridonxx7614]

@ this game cooked my 1660 to I had to run fsr on performance and frame gen just to get 150 fps. I literally bought a new pc to play this game

[@laeviga-sunstrider]

This is kind of lame. I like to use Lossless Scaling to generate frames, allowing me to run at higher settings with a capped framerate while still reaching my monitor's max refresh rate.

[@balltickler-hm5mo]

I didn’t know that strange could go that far horizontally bc my pc sucks. i thought that ability was mainly for vertical movement😂

[@DrewSkee661]

Can you make a video on the best video setting for the 3 main types of graphics people prefer? For example: Performance, Balanced, and Fancy

[@47dynasty28]

DLSS

[@MyKlaudijus]

I think devs dont care about this 😂

[@ssheeessh]

My damage per match has dropped an average of 8k since i locked my fps to 60. Oddly enough I've been playing better (learned tech and matchups) and winning more. (Haven't dropped rank since)

[@kartorrent7496]

You could say it’s, “STRANGE,”! Hahaha! (Kill me.)

[@richenelpanchoe3879]

So having a PC that cant handle 120 fps would be a disadvantage?! Glad im on console where everyone has the same fps.

[@StarlightGalaxi]

They can easily fix this if they limit animations to 60FPS

[@itz_darkside5492]

What about the ones that aren't even able to get 60 fps