Marvel VS DCU, Which has the Better Future?

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

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[@AppMaker728]

They are woke DC and Marvel they both gonna fail

[@DaveRedsky]

@@AppMaker728 you get pegged

[@BaithNa]

Cavill had to go. He's a decade too old for what Gunn is trying to do with Superman and they'd never get rid of the stretch of the DCEU if they kept the same actors in the same roles, specifically the trinity actors.

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

True. . .Sadly true. . .

[@ciudadanodeunpaislibre9922]

Yeah I agree, however I can’t help but feel bad for the guy who was very passionate and excited for the character he played. I hope that in the future there’s still a chance for him to come back, either with a cameo or a multiverse role in the future, like what they did for nwh, they could try and do for crisis on infinite earths, if they ever get to that point.

[@DaveRedsky]

True. And idk if people really feel sad about it, truly The people voted with their wallets. They've could've made black adam a hit, by showcasing the return of cavill as superman. And a promise to fans, all they needed was the support. But none was given

[@myrimor]

Cavill too old? He's still doing the same type of movies! And.... Please Corenswet is his carbon-copy!

[@midwestkrazy83turner50]

But Hugh Jackman is ok to play wolverine for 20yrs??? Man stop with the foolishness!

[@Jonathan-zk1rf]

The answer to this question is simple, DC is building its future and Marvel is stuck living in the past, DC is focused on trying to create its new universe with quality projects, Marvel just wants to make easy money with nostalgia by sacrificing its universe and its future for this, marvel's greatest villain will have his history and potential completely wasted to be a variant of tony stark, in the long run all this nostalgia will take its toll, the hope of having good comic book films is all in DC.

[@midwestkrazy83turner50]

Nobody is excited for what Gunn is doing. So pls stop with the this. You can't point to nothing Gunn has done to help WB. Deadpool and Wolverine just hit another milestone and they gonna get better. WB is the one losing and losing fast. Wished the WB was smart. But they aren't.

[@SamudraGuptaChakma]

@@midwestkrazy83turner50 wow what a logic

[@h.t.creatction5321]

@@midwestkrazy83turner50 didn't he made highest grossing mcu movie in 2023 its gunn FFS

[@midwestkrazy83turner50]

@@h.t.creatction5321 Idk. But he had no success til Disney. Now he's still down, bcus SS was trash and so was Peacemaker!!! He's done nothing good at WB!

[@h.t.creatction5321]

@@midwestkrazy83turner50 u think box office success makes a movie good? all star wars Transformers and Jurassic sequels are trash but made billion The Suiside squad is 92 % RT and 82 % Audience score Peacemaker is 94% RT and 89% audience score literally highest rated content of DCEU meanwhile most mcu After endgame are either trash or divided between Audience and Critics and if Fantastic four fails they will loose majority audiences before Avengers doomsday and after Secret wars The End New DCU on the other hand has fresh content for for dacades you are fool if you really think Gunn is not visionary he literally made d tier characters mainstream in MCU he is literally only guy who can rebuild DCU just have patience and wait for f8ck sake

[@roderick8167]

Superman (2025) is my most anticipated CBM of next year so I'm definitely hyped for this , also I want to be excited for all the DCU stuff that's coming and I am excited don't get me wrong but I keep thinking in the back of my mind that if Superman fails or underperforms at the box office then David Zaslav and WB will most likely shut down the DCU before it even gets a chance to hit the ground the running, again I'm not trying to jinx Superman I'm praying it's successful because I want all this DCU stuff that's coming 😭🙏🤞

[@DaveRedsky]

What do you mean by fails at the box office ?

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

@@DaveRedsky If it doesn't make enough money for it to be considered a profit

[@BloodSport-yj6iv]

Keep making dc stuff you’re great at it

[@marvinj1000]

MCU easily because they had a loyal fanbase dc fanbase are mixed and divided

[@jordantran6635]

Not to be to critical, but that last clip isn't actually Dr. Phosphorus, but rather a guy based off of him and was an original character made for the Batman Beyond series. Don't worry it's a common mistake, I used to think the same as well. Great video though. Keep up the good work.

[@muhdshafiq2523]

I gotta go with dc on this. They rebooting they universe and getting great creative writers for these upcoming projects meaning great opportunity for improvement.

[@maxordman4100]

Fantastic Four First Steps could still be awesome, though I'm waiting for a trailer before I make any judgments. I can see why you're supporting DC more, and I also want Superman to get a fantastic story again. I like David Cornsuite as an actor. So, there is hope for DC for now, but I always wait for trailers to make my own personal decisions. RDj will never be my first choice for Dr. Doom, but if he does well in the role, I would like to support him.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

I may have reservations about Gunn's vision, but at least DC has a future. Disney just needs to let the MCU die.

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

Let MCU die then reboot it in like 20 or so years

[@TimelessWildlife]

Yes do a ultimate universe

[@iraford5788]

Deadpool and Wolverine alone is going to make sure the MCU has a bright future for years to come.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

@@iraford5788 Deadpool & Wolverine was nothing but fan service, which makes for a fun theatre experience, but it's not a foundation for a franchise to build on. The first Marvel movies started something massive because they were good stories that got people invested in their characters, characters who were just beginning journeys we were excited to follow. Deadpool & Wolverine just resurrected as many old legends as they possibly could because the best thing Marvel can do anymore is remind us of when things were better, even though no one really liked most of the things they're reminding us of back in their time anyway. So while Deadpool & Wolverine may have been a fun experience for the die-hard Marvel fans, it's by no means a model for long-term success.

[@DaveRedsky]

​@@iraford5788 no offense. But the hits that "marvel studio" had were films from other studios The deadpool 3 film was a fox franchise film and no way home was a money maker for Sony, not marvel studios

[@KristubeYT]

Im hoping they'll do a crossover sometime in the future.

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

that'd be dope

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Both have great futures

[@atavious2491]

Personally, I really don't care if Marvel movies and DC movies end up switching places in terms of who's more successful. I get that comic book geeks want to live in a perfect world where both sides are equally balanced with both great thought out storylines but we already have that in other stuff either in comic book or animated form. The past decade and a half has pretty much proven that you can't do a lot in film in terms of wanting to tell the story you want to tell. Hollywood corporations are just too competitive and complicated to negotiate with. It's why for a while, the MCU in the 2010s was on top while the DCEU struggled because WB back then had a different structure that refused to change. And also that Disney and WB are lifelong rival companies and especially in the 2010s, it was always an uphill battle of Disney being more financially well off than WB. Sure, Disney Marvel back then also had their limitations of what they can and cannot use in their movies but at least they had a well thought out plan of how to execute their ideas with the things they could use which is something the DCEU didn't, regarding that they own everything and didn't go full out with the characters they could've and should've used. But now that things are different in the 2020s, I can really see it being possible that now DC can finally take over and try again at doing a much better story. I think it's about time that kind of change should happen because we've already had a decade of one company being better than the other and perhaps things should turn around. I know some people may not like that reality but what else can I say. Spider-Man No Way Home to me was the true end of the Infinity saga as it finally wrapped up Spider-Man's arc from that storyline and while I'm not like everyone who likes to bash on phase 4, I have to admit that there has been a noticeable drop lately with Marvel and if DC has a new batch of superhero content coming my way with a whole new vision being teased, then I'm just going to graduate to that. But let's be real, with video game movies such as Sonic 3 and Minecraft picking up, I know along with some other people they want to see something else take over or rival the superhero genre. When more and more movies with recognizable video game IPs get green lit, I know that my stay in the new DCU won't be a long one. Just sayin'

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

Fair points all 'round!

[@Sjono]

MCU can at least rely on established characters DC has to reinvigorate their entire cinematic brand which has been damaged for the a decade and a half. The bad films outweigh the good

[@iraford5788]

Agreed most definitely.

[@DaveRedsky]

Established characters?? Are you slow ?? 😂😂🤡 Which ones 😂😂😂 Literally RDJ is playing doom, not even Ironman 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤷‍♂️

[@kingvejita8827]

@@DaveRedsky are u on the spectrum ?

[@DaveRedsky]

@@kingvejita8827 you whitknighting ?? Loser moves

[@kingvejita8827]

@@DaveRedsky Yuck

[@devarsh_1]

Bro treat your cold first 😭

[@anubhavkumar2354]

DCU

[@Matthewwithers33]

The super hero era of film really needs to let go… no other film genre has ever held on this long, can we just pull the plug and move onto another genre. I’d be fine with a few years of “based on true events” movies or “storm” movies

[@kingvejita8827]

hehehe, lets not....

[@Sundeath41]

I'd say DC has a better future Cus Deadpool was only here for one movie(which was his third), Peter's life is depressing AF which I guess matches the comics so there's SOMETHING comic fans won't complain about(ironically enough, that's the one thing comic fans wished no one ever adapted), and rdj may be back as doom, but marvel is removing Dr doom's hate for reed, which is LITERALLY DOOM'S MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER TRAIT

[@thebessienessie836]

great stuff!!

[@kingvejita8827]

Spoiler Alert ! its not DCU... its always been trash and will always continue to be so, i mean for fudge sake u have the Justice League and ur still failing at making a good and popular movie... thats Talent.

[@kingvejita8827]

@@Abhinav-m4o I feel like either next episode things are going to actually get good, or this is going to be a long season introducing a universe and it'll use additional seasons to tell a good story. Because right now, there are just too many unanswered questions.

[@Jamal-bl7yh]

This Is Kinda Like Saying Which Platform Will entertain me more In 2025 Netflix or KZbin/Dailymotion which I have my choice and I won't say It either

[@DaveRedsky]

Ummmm, wtf? KZbin is free and Netflix you pay for, how is that a comparison?

[@Grand_Master12312]

Mcu had bad start after endgame. But they still had box office and rating and award wise sucsesfull movies Dc didn't. Every dc movie flopped and failed in ratings. Now joker 2 failed and deadpool 3 didn't fail. So now superman is the last movie that could save dcu. Marvel has a lot of movies that would and will be great and box office bloclbusters. If superman fails then it is the end. Bit if cap. 4 fails it is not, bec. There are other movie that won't fail like: thunderbolts, fan. Four, avengers 5, doctor strange 3, spiderman 4, avengers 6... but idk after secret wars. So marvel has brighter future like dcu but mcu still better but in long term dcu might have better future.

[@EthanWinters-y9m]

😊hey guy keep it up

[@kayaanbedi5554]

MCU easily

[@totomen666]

both went woke, so none of them have a "future"

[@studio96films65]

James Gunn is probably gonna race swap Booster Gold

[@callmejacob3234]

I could care less about the cinematic universes they are both garbage. Give me more of The Batman Saga. Let the cinematic universes finally die.

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

While I understand your point (especially due to the oversaturation of cinematic universes in the last couple of years) they both still have potential. Plus James Gunn's DCU does not seem to be super dependant on everything sharing a universe, but it seems more focused on high quality films. But I have to agree The Batman is Epic

[@callmejacob3234]

@@TheFilmFanatic_Handle If they want to do a connected universe make it animated. Cinematic universes are just a waste of time.

[@justincartledge111]

It's too early to tell

[@thewatchman13]

Neither.

[@midwestkrazy83turner50]

Look! Gunn aint saving the DCU!!! Didn't they have a really low turnout at NYCC??? Bcus from what I'm seeing from Disney is selling movies still and WB is failing. ONLY and i mean only thing that's even keeping them relevant is Matt Reeves Batverse. Nothing else. SS and Peacemaker were flops and if his clown of a CC doesn't do well and that Temu looking Superman movie he's making fails? Thats 4 projects under Gunn that were busts and he was nvr supposed to be hired then. The Penguin is literally holding them up. Meanwhile! Disney just hit another milestone with sales on Deadpool and Wolverine. So pls tell me how WB is looking bright? Oh by the way? Ppl keep sniping at Synder. But for WB to be done with him? They sure putting out figures that came out his movies and selling like hotcakes. But they wanna turn the page so bad, bcus whoever in charge wants their vision out there. And from the looks of things, Gunn aint WB savior and will fall flat with fans. WB wants ppl to give Gunn a chance, and they know if they don't have the full fanbase behind them? Which they don't! They know this reboot will fall into a dark abyss and be forgotten. Idk why? But it feels like the same situation with the Female Ghostbusters and nobody went and supported it and it just fell flat. I didn't mind it, nor did i bash it. But it didn't sit well with the audience. And WB knows that Synder has a strong Base and they need that to sell Gunn's work. All I'm a say is that, WB better have a Plan B. Bcus i don't see this saving WB at all! WB can't say they done with Synder. But then go and put figures out from his Universe and expect ppl to want that Family Dollar Superman movie forced fed to them on plates.

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

Your right about the wrong things. (IMO) Yeah Disney is doing good finacially, but like thats pretty easy for them considering they can make a live action remake or another Star Wars film whenever they want to, so money does not really affect them. I am more focused on the quality of the stuff companies are putting out. The Suicide Squad was a flop because it was released to theaters and online at the same time, (which was NOT Gunn's decision) and it came out in the middle of covid. Also, Peacemaker was not a flop it did good with fans and cash wise. James Gunn and Superman both have a lot of fans, and if the movie is good (which its looking like) then it will most likely skyrocket to success. While the Batverse is awesome, the first film only made 700M (Which is a lot, but not enough to support a whole cinematic universe like you said) and the Penguin, while a banger, has not been shattering any records profit-wise. Thats just a few things, I don't want to argue with you because your points are pretty strong, its just you are a little too dismissive of this DCU before it even starts. Thanks for the comment tho :D

[@h.t.creatction5321]

ok marvel ho

[@midwestkrazy83turner50]

@@TheFilmFanatic_Handle Matt Reeves Batverse is the only thing going for WB right now. Nothing has been really successful under them. If ppl like teenage type humar and all that other stuff and don't take it seriously? That's fine. But I don't see this doing well with fans. He's going backwards with this. Nothing screams Modern Day anything that he has shown. Everything just looks low grade and cheap. Plot sounds lame duckish and I just don't trust Gunn. Marvel will keep succeeding tho. Idk how they keep doing it? But they manage and bringing in the Russo Bros was smart. Idk. I'm not a Marvel fan. But they know how to move and move with consistency.

[@midwestkrazy83turner50]

@Abhinav-m4o sorry that MCU was successful and I respect it. I did respect WB! But what little I have left, resides with Matt Reeves, bcus he's the only one keeping WB afloat.

[@AppMaker728]

Both of them are super woke

[@TheFilmFanatic_Handle]

@@AppMaker728 idk bout that but you are entitled to your own opinion so that’s fine if you think that 🫠

[@Marvelfreak099]

I don’t believe in the word woke

[@JasonCan-wp2fu]

DCU hasn't even got a single project released yet 😭😭 tf you talking about

[@DaveRedsky]

​@@JasonCan-wp2fu and your point ??

[@JasonCan-wp2fu]

@@DaveRedsky my point is that HOW does he know that the DCU is woke even though they haven't released a single movie or tv show as of now, that doesn't make sense