Marvel X Men: Krakoa Era Ends

X-MEN (2021) Issue 35.
▸ THE END OF AN ERA - UNCANNY X-MEN Issue 700! All good things must come to an end, and as good of a thing as the Krakoan era has been for mutantkind…its time has come at last. The tragedy and triumph of FALL OF THE HOUSE OF X, the madness and mystery of RISE OF THE POWERS OF X…they have all come to their end and led to this moment that will change the future of mutantkind for years to come. Written and drawn by an all-star cast of writers and artists who have shaped the Krakoan Age, this is one milestone no X-Fan will want to miss! Also featuring a story of family by X-Men master Chris Claremont…and a glimpse of things to come!
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[@vginsprdsobepr9698]

Apocalypse was one of the best new allies from the Krakoan era. It’s a shame to see him revert to an enemy is such a rushed way. I really liked him as an ally.

[@bensonvirtucio3926]

He was so good. Well next up they should have Thanos and Apocalypse do something together

[@marcusstewart4141]

Same 🎯🎯

[@Quandryification]

Didn't he change his name to Revalation?

[@luisa.acevedo3326]

​@Quandryification The word “apocalypse” comes from the Greek word apocalupsis which means “revealing, disclosure, to take off the cover. It was always Revelation.

[@kei2kei]

I honestly wish Marvel does an Anthology series about him. How he goes back to being the Apocalypse we knew before, and the conflicting dichotomy between him now and him before. And I would love to see stories about his journey from Ancient Egypt going forward.

[@michaelthomas8539]

Rob: "I havent slept and I'm kinda angry." Marvel: "Quick hide Blackbolt!"

[@tomfox8551]

😂

[@cleaveuntome42]

Comment of the year🎉🎉

[@HeWhoRemains42]

😂

[@marcusstewart4141]

😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@ramonperez6582]

Rob shitting on black bolt is my favorite thing lmao

[@Tiiesto_M]

Now all I need is a 12hr+ video of the whole Era, then I'd be extremely happy...

[@powercore2000]

you'd need like 24+ hours for that, the mega video on everything up to inferno is already over 13 hrs

[@archaicrapture]

He didn't cover everything from it.

[@leejones2113]

I agree.

[@artharjones39]

Agreed!

[@kuukylvrr]

lmbo right.

[@Marmaduke_Jones]

Apocalypse is the walking definition of “The ball crushing will continue until morale improves 🗿”

[@richiepommells180]

Agree

[@jasondavis2995]

I love it.

[@Toki-Ralte]

although it's fitting & expected, Exodus' reaction kinda came out of nowhere and I was very thrilled that Apocalypse put him in his place until... well I won't spoil it further..lol

[@eman67rp]

This is all an act by Apocalypse, he's doing this to keep the mutants tough. By giving them and enemy Himself. He wasn't trying to kill Cafta or Exodus. He wants to toughen them up. For they aren't caught by surprise again

[@publius5278]

No Clermont no good

[@CaliMisfit]

When Hickman left and after reading the Onlsaught saga with Nightcrawler and Legion - I knew the Krakoa era was headed down hill. So much potential….

[@SuperSean95]

This wasn’t the death of Krokoa. This was the death of comic creator ideas for substitutions of Hollywood. Hickman did a wonderful job of creator a word we as comic book fans could believe in, but of course factions formed and destroyed everything…

[@STS-qi1qy]

Absolutely love Nightcrawler getting a moment to show off while, at the same time, explaining it's not that he *couldn't* but that he *chooses* not to.

[@marceloa392]

probably something most recen readers didnt know......unlikw those who read the comics with his Age of apocalypse version getting revenge....

[@LUWiseguy08]

Kurt is forever a real one.

[@logangurt2667]

They missed a chance to have Jean use Emma as a bullet for a telepathic fast ball special

[@Anglneo]

That cover shot is so awesome! Having Cable AND also Scott looking back. To symbolize their concern for the WHOLE group while moving forward. Now that is leadership! Inspiring.

[@user-xw5xo3bv1n]

Scott looks on Jean.

[@ProffessorWaffle]

and then you have deadpool riding on top of the Xwing lmao

[@Thedandalorian42069]

The absolute mishandling of this entire X men run after 2021 needs to be studied. Its shocking Marvel didnt either pay Jonathan Hickman enough or couldnt be bothered to find someone willing to game his story out to its natural end. This was arguably a bigger disappointment than one more day.

[@kei2kei]

Hickman was not really meant to stay that long; he was meant to revitalize the interest in the X-men. And he did so successfully. But when you let the comics editorial be overridden by the MCU bigwigs (even if they are comic fans/enthusiasts), this is what happens. This has happened before. With Claremont. With Byrne. With Busiek. Even with Morrison. The SIDE that makes the most money dictates the evolution of the other side. But yes, I agree, it is a disappointment. But not as much as Spider-man: One More Day.

[@justinmcdonald2072]

The deal with the devil was worse Peter was compromised in a bad angle.

[@user-dl6sk1pn5d]

The real issue was Hickman got kicked out because they wanted to milk the Krakoa-era and editorial decided to stop him from finishing the story with his original and far better ending. Which shows the hypocrisy and double-standards of Krakoa's mutants.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

it's HORRENDOUSLY DISAPPOINTING. i'll *never* read another x-men comic again.

[@kei2kei]

@@thispersonrighthere9024 Yes you will. The same way you would still read a Batman comic, even if we know Batman is the most plot-armored hero of them all. You are a comic fan.

[@heyitstheblackguy]

Rob isn't mad, he's disappointed

[@bradleypoe6846]

Truth. He stuck around and promoted this stuff. I bailed, because I AM angry and I DON'T stick around when shit gets TOO intentionally disappointing. I bailed on the entire "Fall of X" business and I'm not proud of it, but at the same time, it is self-care at this point. Because I have zero faith that Mickey Rat will ever show even a *tenth* of the respect Beau DeMayo did the characters and setting for _X-Men 97._ None. Their whole track record is that the MCU promotes ONE guy per film, literally, with ensembles being reduced to CGI set pieces and Quips-a-Million. A TEAM franchise is alien as fuck to the House of Mouse. They can't even do a team of Disney Princesses. They literally fired DeMayo before his cartoon aired. I'm sorry, I'll shut up now. Because yeah, nobody's really here to go off or see others do that.

[@CardboardYorickmain]

@@bradleypoe6846 I think it is a bit more complicated then that. Disney managed to turn Marvel from a failing studio into a actual powerhouse with the MCU. I think the issue was that after they let the Russo Brothers cook and concluded with Endgame. A bunch of contracts expired, the Russo brothers left, Stan Lee died. And so all the brain/acting power houses buggered off leaving Disney to try and recreate something just as good with none of the resources that allowed the MCU to get that big to begin with. I suspect that a combination of BlackRock toomfoolery, braindrain, and people retiring have lead to Marvel just turning out dogwater after dogwater series since then. It's not going to get any better until it all goes under like in the early 1990's and Disney drops them.

[@criticolehits5766]

Imagine just being blipped back to life and just standing around and not immediately looking for your loved ones and freaking out from the total confusion. Lol mutant or not, you're still going to have and entire episode.

[@Kaijutopia]

I still wanna see Apocalypse throwdown with Uranos and/or Thanos.

[@HELLO_KORO]

In a proper Timeline Krakoa would've lasted a decade, almost every Mutant nation gets destroyed

[@matthewlaflamme9019]

Almost?

[@guiterrorist]

But Krakoa remains a thing, only that now it's actually safe from getting Genosha'd.

[@user-dl6sk1pn5d]

I'd rather it ended the way it did than continue and see all my favorite and well-written Mutants turn into hypocritical dirtbags.

[@mykdebradley3586]

With the exception of Jonathan HiCKMAN and a few others ( Kieron Gillen on IMMORTAL ✖️-MEN and Al Ewing on ❌-MEN RED) most writers definitely didn't know how to world build the NATiON oF KRAKOA, that could have been bigger even though it had a rough start, as most new Nations do, iT was far more interesting than the regular superhero trope we're going to get iN the next few months. i'M probably done with X-Men, I maybe aged out of what's coming, but I do have grandkids to pass the torch to.

[@John_Doe4269]

Hey Rob! You'll probably never read this, but I just wanted to say thank you for all your hard work, it's been a thrill to follow this saga with your channel from the beginning. I used to stay up late all night reading Spider-Man when I was a kid, but as time went on and I grew up, I started to pay attention to other things in life. Now I'm turning 30 and I'm so glad guys like you are out there now - I would never have the guts to pick up and follow through all these comics nowadays, but listening to your contageously enthusiastic retelling is a joy when I get back home! You really helped me recapture some of that wonder and marvel (no pun intended) I thought I'd lost, almost two full decades ago. Anyway, lots of love from across the great pond, keep on rocking in the free world, and congratulations on keeping such a fantastic channel for all these years!

[@jonloomis5210]

I must say I really liked the interactions with Apocalypse throughout the era while he was on their side. Like they would just be talking about something from history and he would be like "Yep, I remember that. I was there."

[@Depressso-Espresso]

Hickman known for disliking the MCU. And the main reason for that is because comics are inspired by movies and not the other way around. So him creating the "Krakoa era" was because he wanted make something special, something different, something that would inspire the future movies and comics for ages to come. And it was so beautiful!! And now, seeing how it's all end... man, I don't know if there is enough words to describe my disappointment and frustration! This shit suck, brother!

[@biorobot2]

That type of reasoning is kinda weird since most of the stuff from the MCU is barely original. It’s a patching of the different comic series. But I agree with him that the trend of comic trying to capitalize on the success of the MCU by recycling content already recycled from comic is beyond silly and lazy.

[@SquattingSiorai]

@@biorobot2well theyre correct in that comics follow where the money is, ultimately one just needs to look at how the X-men and fantastic four were limited in being produced because of how petty Disney is

[@Blade5067]

hickman has only done well with fantastic four... the rest is trash

[@fraughtmonster8]

Big facts look no further than guardians of the galaxy

[@kawonewilliams1949]

Very well put. I agree with Hickman, but I go so far as to despise the MCU

[@eman67rp]

I think I get what Apocalypse is trying to do. He's basically telling them you can't be caught with you pants down again. We can't be brought to the brink of extinction again.

[@islandcryptologistexplaine8172]

Same feeling

[@omanjackson17]

Was that message for the MCU? Because they kinda had their pants down after Endgame.

[@DonShotta24]

@@omanjackson17were the Xmen in Endgame????

[@kevtiz03]

I’m terrified the MCU will make Apocalypse all silly and jokey like they do everyone

[@asudevil316]

You are stupid

[@jfoster8624]

Thanos wasn't jokey I doubt apocalypse would be a clown

[@parsman9914]

Like everyone? You must be talking about something else.

[@bluewall5505]

I get it. And agree.

[@kawonewilliams1949]

Everyone has a quip. It's true nonsense. It's like every character is a Friends/Buffy The Vampire Slayer character.

[@foreignswaggersection6918]

i hate it that marvel comics are trying to match up the mcu. what made the mcu so good is that it was separate from the comics, able to create storylines and character development without needing to rely on the development and character building from the comics. they could take the basic beginner traits of the characters they chose and then just go from there with their own ideas and stuff. they could take insipiration from them but not directly copy them. theyre supposed to stay as separate continuities. not turn one into the other all because some shitty movie and a literal fucking liar claims that 616 is the mcu universe when its not

[@shadowx8145]

Good god y'all fucking idiot still didn't put two and two together? The MCU being 616 has nothing to do with them replacing the comics it's a reference that the MCU is the MAIN continuity in the CINEMATIC side of things just like how 616 is recognized has the MAIN Continuity is the comic side of things. The MCU is profitable while comics are a dying medium. Even DC is suffering from that. On a business side of things it makes sense why the comics would try to mimic it

[@tylerroberts7315]

Exactly man and what kills is the MCU just sucks period right now. No reason to watch anything really. And the comics were actually what was bringing me back as they weren’t scared to try new things and well, looks like it was fun while it lasted lol

[@hakanozaslan9571]

I hate it as well, but at least they don't try to force feed us the Inhumans as "the new X-Men" like they did a few years back.

[@pickedceasar1216]

It's even more stupid when you realize a lot of the MCU big wigs probably consider the MCU a prequel to the comics. I've even seen something like Loki was the origin of the multiverse and that the reason they named the MCU as 616 was to somehow make them the same Even if they're not they're not doing a good job at differentiating multiverses or coordinating information very well to certain creatives

[@sosmooth13]

This Krakoan era had the most potential X-men ever had. It’s sad to see so many ideas rushed, shelved, or discarded altogether. I felt proud like I was an actual X-man. Especially when Apocalypse joined.

[@GoHazyQuietSexAngel]

Agreed, it breaks my heart to see it come to an end.

[@Musa-xq6fh]

FACTS

[@sosmooth13]

@@Musa-xq6fh I was ready for like a 10 year MCU run with Hickman at the helm lol. That’s how good that dude is at story and world building. Look at what’s going on with G.O.D.S and the new Ultimates comics rn.

[@Marx1684]

Apocalypse is my favorite Marvel character with this wrap up. He was already up there but after The Hickman Treatment I fell in love. He has history & holes that could be used for future stories within all comics, one liners & a ridiculous power set.

[@asssassyn]

I think he's the best marvel character as well.

[@ejstar8917]

I am with you. I really want to see him continue as an ally because this is a mutant with THOUSANDS of years of knowledge and history. So, much could be learned from him. Such a sad shame to see him turn back to being an adversary. Or maybe perhaps an anti-hero?

[@rjhemedes]

Notice Jean Grey never intervened when Apocalypse was tussling with the other mutants because Phoenix would have mopped the floor with Apocalypse. I will miss the Krakoan Age and I'm glad the mutants have a safe haven in the White Room, which is their version of the city of the Children of the Vault. At this point, almost every mutant that has died has been resurrected again except Sabretooth only because he died so recently.

[@resulnaki]

Yeah, Jean was like, he isn't worth my time

[@growupgreg]

I have been an X-Men fan and reader since the 80s. At some point in the 2000’s I stopped reading them. Then when I heard Hickman was going to be writing them I jumped back onboard for House and Powers and was blown away. It was the best the X-Men had been in years. Then at some point I lost interest. It still saddens me to see this era come to an end. Hickman definitely made me fall back in love with the X-Men.

[@kawonewilliams1949]

You literally mirrored my thoughts. Once they brought out the X-Men movie they started changing the comics. Just look at the costumes. Things started going black leather to fit the movie nonsense. Once Hickman took over, it was intriguing and interesting. Now we go back to nonsense.

[@maxacorn]

just proves that marvel needs to trust hickman and pay him more than he is.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

i stopped reading last year. hsd enough of their storylines ending disappointingly and the erasing of character histories.

[@IStevenSeagal]

@@thispersonrighthere9024Thank you, the only sane person here. Hickman and comics in the last 10 years have utter crraapp. While 2000's comics is the best of all times. What are these guys🚬?!

[@IStevenSeagal]

Fell in love with this? Comics today? Roiight.

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

This flopped at the end. I would have rather Charles Xavier kill Moira and reset the timeline back to where they were in the X-Mansion and he as Mr. Sinister are the only ones who know about it.

[@worldender9388]

Yup same, this ending sucked

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

@@worldender9388 Thank you!! Someone who understands!!!

[@lamarrion]

But her x gene never activated so it made no sense to kill her. She’s useless now

[@Thedandalorian42069]

You're not wrong - the biggest problem is how they played it directly into the main marvel comics universe to the point that they were inseparable. But. There was absolutely a way to tell this story naturally and make it compelling but Kevin Feige's mandate made sure that was just a pipe dream.

[@troublemaker574]

It's crazy how people think they know the inner workings of a company simply because they don't like a story lol

[@joeypadilla9728]

Y'know despite how rushed the ending of the era was I'm still glad this was the point in the x-men's history that got me back into the comics,i just hope from the ashes starts off on just as good a note as krakoa did

[@svp2010]

Don't waste your cash on it

[@gabnel1000]

things will just go back to the same old same old, Mutants being perpetually persecuted while they're still playing hero.

[@joeypadilla9728]

@@gabnel1000 oh no, I'm hopeful, not DELUSIONAL 😂. But I'm hoping now that the island and resurrection are gone and all the genoshans are back that SOMETHING will change other than the villains

[@gabnel1000]

@@joeypadilla9728 hoping for it to be good going forward but expecting it to be bad. Only got into x-men after dropping it for years because of POX/HOX for how different and interesting it was 😞😮‍💨

[@miguellee7668]

Krakoan era started off so strong only for it to go out so weak no wonder Apocalypse is pissed lol

[@whatcanudo4metho]

Exodus got fatalitied right in front of everyone, then they just shrugged and moved on

[@biggylewis3967]

The krakoa run had some great moments but was confusing AF

[@tvang464]

Apocalypse should be able to regenerate his eyes. But plot must go on.

[@mrdrock]

I assumed he did. As I read the comic it seemed like his eyes came back after a few pages.

[@rabumalal]

he is, he is just making the point of fighting everyone on their style to show them they have yet more work to do on themselves.

[@havocthehobbit]

Krakoa could have gone as a permanent age and home for the xmen. So many more stories could have bean told on a continental level ,it was such a good settings and so enjoyable . They could have leveled the xmen up to not just defenders of mutant kind but as one of many branches of security for the the island on a national government level. In a similar way that the Avengers are both earths warriors but mostly america . I kind of get it tho, its hard to silo the xmen stories off from the rest of marvel universe if they are such a big player in geo politics .

[@EmileCournand]

Apocalypse turning heel again is dumb as fuck glad we have all the mutants back though we can pick and choose who we want on teams.

[@darksideapoc]

It was dumb for them to turn him into a hero in the first place. I mean what next? Marvel try to find a way to make the red skull into a nice guy also?

[@EmileCournand]

@@darksideapoc he always had an heir of mutant survival but they were actually thriving and he's upset because they "soft" pack of non sense

[@darksideapoc]

@@EmileCournand That's not exactly true, his whole goal was to see who was stronger out of the humans and mutants. Whoever won, he planned to rule over. Look at stories like "The Twelve" and "Age of Apocalypse" even "Blood of Apocalypse" he has been consistent until Hickman decided he wanted to recon the character. I also hated the fact they turned Beast (one of the most beloved Xmen into a villain)! They ended up reconning that also, but why do it? People love these characters how they are, most of us fans do anyways, but when Marvel decides to recon the background to characters that you love, it makes you non interested in even reading the comics.

[@hicks7884]

The ending feels like Marvel trying have its cake and eat it too. Krakoa has a happy ending but the X-Men can never have it. Also, they were just too much plotholes. What happened to the Four? Are they even alive? Will they go back to the White Hot Room? If that place is paradise, what use do they need for resurrection? I honestly love that the Fall of X started with the consequences of Krakoan's extreme actions, like literally punishing a mutant with the same fate as sabertooth for vandalism but ur right, they really did screw the pooch with this one

[@duhg599]

The Four are with Krakoa in the White Hot Room. They had need of resurrection to bring back all the mutants that died at Genosha, and now that work is complete. They can still resurrect mutants, but for now they’re going to continue to live their lives in a place separate from Earth.

[@LiveLifeBeHappy100]

Whenever someone tries to kill prof. X Magneto is almost guaranteed to appear (almost)

[@FoolsGil]

Didn't even last a decade. This is why I rather watch videos on comics instead of buying them - nothing is permanent.

[@sammiboibenton]

A note. A lot of the resurrected mutants went back to the the white hot room with Krakoa. They said that some went back to see their families but they all had essentially 24 hrs to say goodbye before leaving again. So there's we're not entirely back to having a surplus of mutants. If anything it looks like most mutants are gone, leaving with Krakoa and only the main mutants stayed.

[@mnsega]

This makes me so sad.😭 They should have had Jonathan Hickman come back to close the series.🤔

[@weggman1984]

Kevin Feige: 'Sup, mofos. Shut this shit down. Don't make me ask twice. Marvel Writers: But, Kev-- *gun shots *slow, deliberate reloading *more gunshots

[@omegaminoseer4539]

AGGRESSIVE TACTICAL RELOAD

[@Blaktimus]

It just feels as if magnetos resolution is being pooped on with what apocalypse is honestly reverting to. Ironic that he's like the Apex of 'Evolution' as an external and Omega-Level but his thinking comes off as devolved. None of this hinders the characters because i'm highly aware of the meta surrounding these last issues of X-Men. Literally my favorite era of x-men and i feel like it competes with the legacies greatest but holy SHIT this ending making me eat so much crow lmao

[@unknownvalor9755]

Xavier going dark so onslaught can pop out later and say "HA it was all me!"

[@B-Dawgg]

Wolverine's second adimantium skeleton was bonded by Apocalypse.

[@thegameghoul3758]

Damn apocalypse really said “and the thought is I brought all this so you can survive when law is lawless”

[@BradPitbull]

Pure awesomeness Thank you for sharing 😊

[@AnnabellaSutton]

Love your style, keep rocking it!

[@resulnaki]

Powers of x 5 is pretty good. Phoenix defeats Enigma and Dominions cower. Jean is Phoenix once and for all. She is now a Cosmic Superhero like she should have been decades ago. Phoenix ongoing series is about to be amazing.

[@patrickblanchette4337]

Thanks for the recap & review👍🏻.

[@ChicagoBornPilsenBred21]

Been waiting for this💯

[@eatThehomeless1]

I love Rob’s enthusiasm.

[@Bearded_Ham75]

Just wanna say R.I.P Benny " Comicstorian" Potter, you'll be dearly missed 🙏✝️❤️

[@Kyubii01]

I can never get into comics ain’t no way all this cool shit happened and it gets reset 😭 This was my favorite story rob told . The way the X-men affected the planet is crazy only to just end in a womp womp

[@JoanOwen-nl8vd]

Always entertained by your content, it's awesome!

[@spinningtornado4543]

Hearing this makes not regret dropping out of the plot since January.

[@Trethar512]

Apocalypse is giving Bane in Infinite Crisis vibes. After years of slowly becoming an anti-hero and working with the good guys he flips because editorial needed it. "I finally know who I am. I am Bane. I break people."

[@darksideapoc]

Because people are getting tired of DC and Marvel making all their iconic villains into anti heroes. We need villains, they make for some of the best characters. It's more epic when they are defeated by the hero. The villain is suppose to represent your obstacles in life, and the hero represents you getting over those obstacles, and that is why most people love to see the hero go up against an EVIL villain, not an anti hero... Also, how much anti heroes do we need?

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

If Moira lost her powers when she was revived in the White Hot Room, why did she remember who she was, such that she was relieved when she turned 13?

[@Marx1684]

13:41 Some good writing here. Sheesh.

[@kambesyes]

The backhand compliments and straight call outs on Marvel, the MCU, and Disney as a whole are the best. I’ll miss this era.

[@shadowx8145]

Even tho it's wrong but eh

[@DRACOFURY]

Looks Like We Got The Old *Apocalypse* And Do Remember He Made *Exodus*

[@axelthouin4389]

wish Exodus could have staind longer (his fight with the fake Apocalypse fell like a training for this moment)

[@andrewjovanovic1058]

I liked this video just because you were grumpy making it for us. Thank you!

[@cricket555]

I appreciate your honesty.. They dropped the ball with the story lol. Wolverine fought an Apocalypse double in the Savage Land.. Brutal. Walter Simonson wrote it back in 1990. They were trying to hint that Apocalypse had something to do with Wolvie's origins.Glad that didn't stick (But I might have missed a retcon lol)

[@fasco69]

I'm loving your reviews man, keep them coming.

[@user-hq2dk9cg9t]

Great video Rob!

[@manuelferrazzo3842]

Thank god Kieron Gillen and Al Ewing were there to carry Krakoa after Hickman left. Real MVPs there.

[@MrOrcshaman]

I'm not picking up another x-men comic for a long time if ever again. The damage they did to my favorite superhero group can't just be overlooked and moved on from.

[@Blackshadow164]

So marvel is done?🤮🤢 darn.

[@MrOrcshaman]

@@Blackshadow164 pretty much. Not a single marvel comic I'd buy anymore

[@jmcbeady8210]

Great job of summerizing the events.

[@ThirteenOhEight]

They should have left Hickman to finish this story.

[@Steven_Edwards]

I was very surprised, at first I didn't think I would like the Krakoan arc. Once I got in to it, I really loved it, especially Marauders. I am going to miss the Krakoan Era.

[@maxacorn]

the krakoa era was what got me back into comics. its a shame it just didnt turn out better than we hoped, both in-story and without. for a brief shining moment in history, it felt like mutants could be happy. mutants could actually win. mutants could actually.......live. but the world wouldn't allow it. so even though we are going back tot he status quo, i'm happy hickman was able to give us something. some kind of hope that things could be better for the xmen. regardless of how it ended, i'm at least glad we had it.

[@voidist1]

The Krakoan Era was amazing. Thanks for the stories

[@IAmWBeard]

21:00 what an excellent use and showcase of nightcrawler’s powers.

[@crazymammoth]

Rob you just can't help but make your own narrative can you? its not Arakko and Krakoa 5:44 its Krakoa and White Hot Room Krakoa rejoining there is now 3 versions of this place now

[@thomasestes5747]

What I really wanted to see was an adult Evan Sabahnur.

[@mrTjstephens1]

I remember in middle school trying to keep up with the Phalanx saga and failing miserably because of the amount of X books.

[@psboy341]

This is a good video. Left out some context and other information on certain topics. Still a good Rob video.

[@tylerroberts7315]

What context is missing? Genuinely curious haha

[@hexthunderbolt1718]

Great video, as always, Rob! I forgot that Enigma died. I was literally just imagining an Annihilation: Dominion event. I guess I'll have to wait for another Dominion!

[@King--jerry--251]

Thanos might have become a dominion

[@archaicrapture]

[LMAO] The Dominion concept it's so underwhelming & kinda stupid. I even doubt you'd see it in GODS. I was hyped seeing it in the Defenders but after it was revealed - what a letdown.

[@luminusprime]

Enigma isn't dead, just trapped in Gold Experience Requiem forever* *until they need to use him for something again

[@omegawynter]

And now I have to subscribe to patreon!😂😂

[@EnmanuelCR]

Finally caught, you got no idea how much I had to come here to this channel and get lots clarification, practically education.

[@hahajenkins]

Over everybody in the comics game that i know of, The X-men are Rob’s bread and butter for sure. Even over DC. So when he’s beyond disappointed or over a comic run especially with the X-men , i know it was horribly handled

[@fernandomalpica1870]

Now even the " Status Quo" had bended to the will of the mouse, so frustrating.

[@333loony]

Man I agree with rob marvel really fumbled the bag on this one!! The whole fall of the house of X and all the tie ins the way they just ended the story so quick without wrapping up the different plot lines they had going on in the storyline

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

Man... I really loved that speech from Kafka, because it addresses the fundamental flaw behind Apocalypse's philosophy: "Social Darwinism" completely misunderstands the evolutionary concept of "survival of the fittest". As Kafka explains, it's not about being physically fit - it's about being fit for your environment. What makes you the top dog in one environment may leave you to struggle in another or if your environment changes over time, and changing a single variable can turn that entire ecosystem around you on its head. That moment could have been a great character moment for Apocalypse. Not as an immediate turnaround, but after some time. At first he'd probably still scoff at it and leave the youngsters to their "delusion" and run off to do his own thing - but when he attempts his next crusade and the X-Men effortlessly manage to avoid any collateral damage (despite him still very much wrecking them), he may start to consider that line of thinking... Sadly with how decisively he shut it down here, that doesn't seem likely.

[@rabumalal]

I take side with apocalypse here. Kafka's point is that if everyone is altruist like i am, then as a "we" we change the context so that context fit us so that powerful work can be done by a group of people, but it can only happen when everyone helps you with context. What happens when you cannot change context? when you live in earth instead of the white hot room and other people contexts clashes with you? Apocalypse answer that he would beat other contexts out of his own might, his survival is not to be snuffed but to thrive by your own by your own might, basically if every mutant learns to really fend for themselves and develop their knowledge , they can grow the context out of their own might. So he beat but didn't kill exodus, adjusted and didn't kill kafka, he took the time to pain everyone in a different way, because they have yet work to do. When you can not only survive but thrive in any environment(including mental), which would include defending yourself, you become Apocalypse ubermensch, which is basically become a better you ion every aspect, and your work is not done yet, so painful encouragement

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

@@rabumalal "Changing context" doesn't just mean some magic reality warping. It's the main survival strategy of humanity. We altered our environments across the entire planet to the point where natural selection doesn't even apply to us anymore. We have entirely replaced the original context with our own and continue to change it - both physically (moving entire mountains, connecting oceans, etc.) and socially (healthcare, global communication & trade, etc.). Kafka's point is not "everyone should be a goody-two-shoes with no care in the world", but that in the world as it exists today, the raw domineering power Apocalypse worships isn't the most useful trait. A functional and resilient society has a much wider reach, and through cooperation can easily accomplish feats that would be hard even for an exceptional individual - so working as part of it rather than against it is the much more beneficial trait to have. Apocalypse's approach is "everyone for themselves" - which is easy to say if you're functionally immortal, have vast knowledge of advanced Celestial technologies and the abilities to magic those into existence. But everyone else is stronger if they can contribute to and benefit from the shared strength of a society, instead of living alone in the woods, struggling to survive all by themselves. That even goes for super-powered individuals. And yeah, making sure that society doesn't get complacent, corrupt and weak is a valid concern. Kafka said as much when he assured Apocalypse that his ideals are still a strong foundation to be inspired by. But there are far more efficient ways to ensure that than to occasionally beat up individuals. If anything that's more in like with the traits that can corrupt and weaken a society... The environment has changed, but Apocalypse refuses to adapt to the new conditions, which - ironically - is a pretty poor survival strategy. And it frankly shows in how much the X-Men treat it as a temper tantrum. His ideology is going extinct.

[@nickolaibernar16]

I see Rob post, i click. Especially xmen right now

[@CanonMak]

Tis the law

[@abysscallstoabyss55]

Why not cup his balls, too? 🤷‍♂️👌

[@Impkingj]

I hope marvel understands this cycle of suffering for mutants has run its course

[@effrme]

good frosty video

[@capt.bellamy]

It feels like a metaphor for old school comics versus new school comics Like a little way of saying hey we don't hate the old comics but our new comics are because we are in this day and age you walked so we can run but the only problem is, like apocalypse felt and said, is that know I was what helped pave the way for you and now you want to just throw it in my face and not even be better but to be wishy-washy week pandering etc etc.

[@DAMU59DUH]

Not going to even lie, I’m looking towards you to hold this down for Comicstorian R.I.P to a great I really appreciate what he’s done and what you do for the comic culture. You’re appreciated sir all love LLC 😢

[@betaraybill3548]

The Krakoa Storyline was the best xmen story to ever came out.

[@daniphantompr]

The Krakoan Age should've become the new Status Quo

[@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570]

I just want Srtyfe and Onslaught back. Franklin Richards being a mutant again…and to know what Reed said to Xavier at the Hellfire Gala you know stuff like that.

[@Marx1684]

14:31 YES!!!!!!!

[@matthewhicks3558]

Gassssss bring my goat Apocalypse back to the dark side

[@swgraphics9059]

Apocalypse said, 'Cam you smell what The Rock is cooking!"

[@thatboymeak]

The krakoan era represented everything that is wrong with comics and instead of fixing it, they just doubled down in the end.

[@ninjason57]

Xmen 97 is getting me back into comics. Im sure im not the only one.

[@DRACOFURY]

*18:24** 🥹 That's A Classic Comic Scene*

[@Miguelx041]

18:14 the good old days 🤣🤣🤣

[@WickedFireBird69]

"Everything that is old is new again." Yeah that sums up the last...2 decades of comics in general. Growth, Change, REBOOT, Rinse and Repeat.

[@kingshadow8782]

I'm here already

[@THEGMH1998]

Need that 15 hour video of all of Hickman's X-Men please!

[@Saito232005]

That kid trying to tell apocalypse that he was wrong is like these new kids saying they don't want to work but want the world to get better 😆😂🤣🤣😭😭😭. I'm glad marvel put a bit of current reality in this book

[@grandstealthhunter]

Im so mad. The Krakoan age was the coolest thing to happen to mutants in a long time. It was so pretty with the Hellfire gala and everything and now its dead because of MCU needs. The mutants had peace and it was taken away.

[@shadowx8145]

Judging by the rumors for the MCU X-Men. They're doing something different with the X-Men compared to the comics so