Dark Secret About Amazonian Reproduction (Wonder Woman's World) - Fate Of Male Newborns? Explored

[@soulreaver1983]

Outstanding video as always thanks

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

The Golden Age Wonder Woman was made out of clay. The Silver Age Wonder Woman was also made out of clay. But added a soul of a murdered female unborn child. Modern Age Wonder Woman was another product of Zeus's wild loins and was told that she was born of clay to fool a jealous Hera.

[@hoodiek6802]

And then theirs 1 where hades is her father

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

@@hoodiek6802 Generally speaking most male Greek/Roman gods are the same...big bundles of cheat on their wives hormones who believe that they can do anything they want to mortals. Probably not even unique to the Greek/Roman pantion... they are simply just well known for it.

[@nicholase82]

@@hoodiek6802 its hinted in the justice league cartoon, but he could be lying.

[@joelsmith5461]

@@hoodiek6802 In the Justice League animated series, Hippolyta had a relationship with Hades and he said he helped Hippolyta sculpt Diana from clay...but that doesn't make him her father. In the Wonder Woman animated movie from 2009 Hippolyta was seduced by Ares back in the ancient times and had a son named Drax who became a killing machine. Hippolyta beheaded Drax, the gods put shackles on Ares which made him powerless. Then the gods lead the Amazons to the island of Themyscira where they were given the task of keeping Ares forever imprisoned. On Themyscira Hippolyta formed Diana from the clay of the earth and the gods have her life. Hippolyta's separate relationships with Hades and Ares only occurred in the two separate animated features and never occurred in the comics

[@gilgamesh7652]

Well, the fact that Ares is a villain in every western fantasy makes you think that people care more about the background and appearance of something than its real qualities and traits. So Wonder Woman to be another bastard of Zeus is kind of expected showing the lack of creativity of the current era. You know what would be interesting is how Theseus in some myths is said that Poseidon possessed Aegeus and as a result, he has two fathers and one mother. What if Zeus ordered Hera to possess Hippolyta and as a result, Diana would be the daughter of all three? She would also be Hera's daughter so the old problem will not be there. Before getting disgusted by this idea remember how was Wonder Woman creator had a relationship like that. Or I don't know what if all three Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades would donate sperm and be mixed with clay or something like that.

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

it's interesting that Hephaestus is the one who takes in the outcasts, as he himself was suposedly cast out of Olympus for being ugly. By his own mother in a lot of accounts

[@Ieatpaste23]

And married to the cheatingest cheater since Zues- Aphrodite.

[@AuroraLalune]

You forgot the one she was the daughter of another certain god of war who wanted to destroy or rule the world(mostly destroy)

[@Ieatpaste23]

@@AuroraLalune I never understood the destroy the world. What's the point? Rule it I can understand, but if you destroy it, then you die too.

[@toolatetothestory]

@@Ieatpaste23 Correction, to be fair on Aphrodite, she was pretty much sold to him like a slave. I'd cheat too if I was just sold off to some ugly hermit against my will.

[@toolatetothestory]

@@AuroraLalune AND ON THAT NOTE Ares is pretty much the ONLY greek God that is decidedly anti SA. He killed a man for trying to harrass his daughter. While every other greek God... Well, we know how that goes. Ares is the good guy.

[@ariadnefrolich7243]

So basically they're stuck in a cycle of hatred. Men hurt them, so they resent men, so they hurt men, which makes men hate them, which leads to men hurting them. That's depressing.

[@beowulf4808]

You just described the reality male to female relationships quite sad

[@crystalmaldonado6139]

Sounds like men in America

[@Cretaal]

So... feminists?

[@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback]

@@Cretaal no feminists are women who hate men even tho men haven’t harmed them (yet).

[@Celestial_Wing]

@@crystalmaldonado6139 Men aren't going to love you if keep hating them.

[@skurvay3429]

In Real World Mythology the Male equivalent of the Amazons were a tribe of all-men warriors known as the "Gargareans", the two tribes were believed to be neighbors, and would annually get together for Reproductive purposes to benefit both tribes, the Female babies would go to the Amazons, while the Male babies would go to the Gargareans, DC Comics even incorporated some of these myths into the Wonder Woman franchise and created the character "Achilles Warkiller" as Diana's Male equivalent.

[@arandomthingintheabyss2062]

Is he still around or down into the void of forgotten characters

[@skurvay3429]

@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 Only Time will tell.

[@jonbrewer297]

I mean, depends on the continuity. In some, they're just immortal. In others, they go the Gargarean route, which is also mythologically correct: An all-male society who only meets with them to reproduce. DC has the Gargareans led by Achilles, who is the reincarnation of *that* Achilles and in love with the reincarnation of *that* Patroklos.

[@raydaveed]

I need to check out this Gargarean thing for "research" purposes. 😏

[@jonbrewer297]

@@raydaveed The thing is, Gargarei is an actual place in the Caucasus, close to the mythical Themyscira.

[@violetmoonstone6867]

@@jonbrewer297 wait what. I live in fucking Georgia my countrt is located there!

[@beverlyarcher3744]

So they send the boys to the father's?

[@jonbrewer297]

@@beverlyarcher3744 Yep. As I understand it, in pre-Flashpoint DC, they have a neutral island for mating and raising the kids until they're old enough to eat solid foods.

[@a.jthomas6132]

If this ever happened in a Wonder Woman animated series, fans would be in shocked to see more of the dark side of Amazonian Society and their way of reproducing children while using men as objects.

[@gumball6445]

No no no we can't show misandry that would be against THE MESSAGE

[@Tina99999]

like men dont use women as object all the time so it shocking when men become objects? They even isolate themselves on a island and men come just to prove superiority , like they dont ahve enough women outside of island to dominate

[@Fennily]

And yet we live in a society that is the reverse of that

[@tommygunn3369]

@@Fennily just couldn't help yourself huh?

[@Lolwhattheheck]

@@gumball6445 love the critical drinker reference

[@shadowhauntjoker8501]

On that note, they became what they hated.

[@MatthewJBarnetteOO7]

That's another reason I love that version. It's poetic irony.

[@malustargaryen5824]

Facts

[@sakurashogun]

@@MatthewJBarnetteOO7 An irony that fits with the f-ed lore of the actual greeks

[@dawudhinton5754]

They already were. In them actual myth it was Ares who made them.

[@dian277]

no, all they did was ging off their infant sons for "adoption", they didn't abuse or kill them in the beginning, and if the men were to known their place, they wouldn't have had to kill them in the end

[@d.l.hemmingway3758]

From what I learned in High School and later literature classes it depends on the myth's origins, but some had the male children exposed and others had them given over to their fathers to be raised in all male tribes. In many ancient Greek cultures the males and females lived in separate accommodations within the houses of the wealthy. The male children lived with the mothers until they reached puberty and then they were moved over into the male side of the compound and learned to be warriors. The serfs, or peasants weren't as selectived I guess as I read very little of their lives. It seems to be that the Amazons took the separation to the extreme with the male children being either left to survive or not being exposed in the wilderness or being handed over to tribes of males living apart from the Amazons. Funny thing is in some of my research on the ancient world in the Eastern Mediterranean there was amongst one of the ancient kingdoms a band of warrior women who may have been the source of the Amazon myths. My memory is not as good as it once was so I do not recall the name of the kingdom.

[@tommygunn3369]

Weren't they they the women warriors among the Sarmatians (part of the Scythians)? They had to kill a man in battle before they could get a husband, that's what I learned in history anyways.

[@EteteHendrix]

The Dahomey Amazons

[@joshuamedina7292]

So even though it's spelled Hephaestus you pronounce it as if it's spelled Hepheastus, why? Are you trolling or is this a honest mistake?

[@adenhurd3296]

No historically they where slaughtered,just as Spartans kill off the weak and sickly,the amazonians killed men because they felt they where Superior

[@rgreed20081]

In one of the universes, Diana had felt guilt after killing a friend whom betray Diana. Feeling guilty, Diana asks her father Zeus to take her powers away from her in order to become a human as well as seek repentance. At first, Zeus refuses, but gives into her daughter's wishes. While Diana gets her wish, she learns that she still has access to her powers. Diana is allow to live the life of a normal human female. She learn martial arts to protect herself. Yet when Diana is needed, she is able to use her powers, but only briefly. Diana understands why she had access to her powers. For her father explains that there are other forces powerful than the Olympian Gods. One of those forces is often known simply to many humans as GOD.

[@sarahclapp505]

The abandonment of The Male of their species will explain how come wonder man existed.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Really? Interesting

[@myxc1011]

Remember her father was a god

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

Wonder Man is from Marvel however. So there'd be some HEAVY cross-channeling going on, to be explaining things.

[@sarahclapp505]

@@STSWB5SG1FAN wonder woman had a brother

[@gildan958]

​@@sarahclapp505 exact il s agit de jason

[@TheMaddgodd81]

Just feel the need to say, there actually IS a letter T in the name Hippolyta, and it is NOT meant to be silent, as it seems half the time it's said here. Also, even when you CAN hear the T, the word is still mispronounced...

[@patrickjorda5523]

I heard it too

[@rickway2039]

I've always heard it pronounced "Hip-paul-ita" took me a second when he says "Hippo-lata"

[@peterwall8191]

*James Clark* You expect anglos to pronounce Greek correctly, after butchering the language for centuries? We're not that lucky. There is something in the English intonation ,that makes English native speakers to mangle other languages.. Its like they unconsciously misremember certain sounds.

[@Embrinna]

If it wasn't your comment, i wouldn't caught he meant Hippolyta. I kept thinking "Who is Hipoleya" xD

[@HookedOnSonics518]

@@EmbrinnaYeah, after I heard that I stopped watching. Telltale sign that this video wasn't made by a true DC fan.

[@jmk0512]

An actual mythology what really happened was Heracles went to the Amazon's island nation as one of his 12 labors he was to retrieve the girdle of the Amazon queen. He respectively requested the girdle and the queen granted his request in exchange for making love to her. Heracles consented to the agreement and upon his ready departure as the queen was saying her goodbyes to the son of Zeus the goddess Hera deceived the Amazon Warriors of the island telling them that Heracles had murdered their Queen and has stolen her girdle they launched an assault charging towards the beach Heracles saw this as a betrayal and killed the queen and then fought the Amazon Warriors. Obviously they were no match for the son of Zeus so upon their defeat he Enslaved the survivors as a punishment. I don't understand why DC felt they had to edit the story into what became their version. The Heracles of myth was not that brutal. He had an anger management problem that is established in the myth but he had honor and a sense of right and wrong and justice.

[@danielseelye6005]

Because Men Bad, Down with The Patriarchy, keep to _The Message._

[@OrdinaryCritic]

Man = bad. Woman = girlboss

[@vandemark1760]

True, but from what I remember there are different versions of the myth, and it's difficult to tell which one is correct

[@jmk0512]

@@vandemark1760 Not this one. This particular story is pure DC not myth.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

@@OrdinaryCritic Something to do with this effminist writer, maybe?

[@generaltechnomage306]

In the animated series of Justice League, if I recall correctly, Amazons reproduce by building clay statues that turn into Amazons; the process can be either sexual or asexual (which is how Hades became Wonder Woman's dad).

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

@Ewok Crowe Artemis

[@badshootykat5574]

So like "taking in" a long pole with hot glass on top. YIKES* ouch OUCH like WTF DC!

[@generaltechnomage306]

@@badshootykat5574 Well when you put it that way, I guess the wording I chose can sound more adult than it really is. XD

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

@Ewok Crowe Again you are wrong I studied these mythology for over ten years. Artemis/Diana are representation of the Maid and is the Moon Goddess also of Hunt. The two Goddesses are virgins by choice and not the Goddess of Virgins that would Hestia/Vesta. Hence the reason Vestal Virgins existed.

[@badshootykat5574]

@@WhitneyAllisonGG not in an anime I KNOW and she's just waiting...

[@angeluvsvid]

you forgot to mention Heracles was also cursed by Hera for Zeus infidelity of mingling with Althea Heracles mother and Hera found out and cursed him with the rage there was issue when Diana rescued Heracles from his position of holding the weight of Themiscyra on his shoulders in the War of the gods series and they all reconcile to solve the issue of dealing with Circe at the time

[@KnightThunderis]

Achmene not Althea

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Yeah the only thing I actually remembered from the Wonder Woman Ark was when hisbestos told her that her weapon was not the truth but intimidation which actually seems to track since every time the universe is remade something changes

[@robertdragoff6909]

In the Flashpoint animated movie, Diana sleeps with Aquaman then kills wife…. And things didn’t end well in this dimension as Daddy Wayne dies, and all of Earth is destroyed…. But Barry stops himself from preventing the murder of his mom, then everything goes back to normal…. I know this was about Wonder Woman, but I’m looking forward to the Flash movie that’s coming out next year….

[@BigReuben97]

What made Diana and aquaman sleep together. What the fuck am I missing.

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

@@BigReuben97 Arthur is a king, and because he is half Alantean Carrie's some of Poseidon's godly magic. Amazons absorb men's life forces in the act of getting pregnant. This is apparently lethal to most mortals, but maybe not so much with men with some god magic energy in them. In other words, Bruce doesn't have a chance surviving Diana's bed in comparison. Clark of course would be the perfect mate for Diana. Mostly because he could easily survive her. Well, that is one explanation...

[@BigReuben97]

@@stanleyteriaca2184 that makes perfect sense on why batman and Diana never slept together.

[@ChaosTicket]

The "Good" DC Amazonian Lore is that they didnt reproduce and only Diane/Wonder Woman was born. The Amazons were immortal, not dying except in battle. This was in the Hope era of DC where Wonder Woman was there to actually be an ambassador and peacekeeper to the contemporary "Man's World". It was later lore that I read about the Amazonians attacking ships to mate with the men and then killing them. This is the common lore and I hate this. Its contradictory and misogynistic to have "Paradise Island" filled with female rapists and murderers. It makes the Amazons into savage villains akin to gender-inverted Spartans, but much worse(Spartans didnt murder their women).

[@Albemarle7]

There is a facinating Scifi series aboutsome modern Amazon written in the90 s. They are unstoppable hi tech militaristic monsters. They so bad that the publisher demanded the series be stopped, he hated them so much. The stories haven been called nightmare fuel. There is considerable posts on line about their implausiblity. But no one complains that Sith or Borgs are implausible. Everyone who reads about them hates them. But it is hard to stop reading about them. I admitt they are "great" villains.

[@Geek0ftheWeek]

It's misandrist not misogynistic.

[@marshalsunrise6582]

People labelling everything that paints women in a bad way misogynistic like it's a new trend

[@ChaosTicket]

@@Geek0ftheWeek Misogynistic "strongly prejudiced against women."

[@ChaosTicket]

@@marshalsunrise6582 By definition thats true because that is exactly what "Prejudiced" means. Saying something truthful and shaping it to be prejudiced by spinning things in the negative isnt much different from skipping that step and just creating fiction where say a Female Paradise is awful.

[@lexsteel12]

I personally would like to see more of the real nature of Amasozian women, n both comics, and the animated movies. This romentasize version that they portray of them, does not really show how everyone is flawed, including Wonder woman.

[@Clippychinw]

Better hope kratos doesn’t find her

[@chrizjohnzon3181]

Kratos would LOSE

[@Clippychinw]

@@chrizjohnzon3181 you sure bout that prime Kratos vs Greek god child?

[@comicsww7975]

@@chrizjohnzon3181 facts

[@gilgamesh7652]

@@chrizjohnzon3181 DC and Marvel fanboys think that just because their universes are in a specific way with some blah blah blah, they think that the power system and intensity are the same in every fictional universe. You know anyone can create a fictional character that is just a plain bodybuilder and his universe power level makes any Superman incarnation as weak as someone that gets tired trying to tie their shoes.

[@TacitusKillgore1]

@@chrizjohnzon3181 you must sniff your own farts a lot huh ?

[@armorbearer9702]

(8:20) They sound more like sirens than Amazons.

[@nooneshome8746]

Thats how I think sirens would operate in real life. They take advantage of the fog in the sea to lure unsuspecting ships by women with beautiful voices to sing and when to ships get to close the warriors of their island plunders those ships.

[@masterjolteryukai3919]

There was a timeline where Diana had a son; Hunter Prince. And it feeds into the point. She gave him to Superman and Lois and he was their adopted son.

[@partypucks3627]

The Wonder Woman history I accept is what is explained from after Crisis on Infinite Earths (1987) to before Infinite Crisis (2005). I prefer when they left Amazon sexuality completely ambiguous and unimportant which is how it should be.

[@vice2versa]

No this wonder woman story on the history of amazonians is significantly better than what you brought up.

[@partypucks3627]

Then we agree to disagree.😂

[@gplus46]

Thanks for sharing. Despite my knowledge of Greek mythology and the story of Zues as WW's bio dad, I din't even think twice about it.

[@saur2244]

its interesting how the abandoning of the mail kids is similar to how when Spartans get kids that dont look perfect they abandon them . the only differince is the amazons give them to a god that will raise them . what makes them worse then the spartans is inviting them back home in hopes to have a home with family but they get attacked just for being men . hades god of the underworld must be proud of there dark deeds

[@cheizelcorreia4651]

killing their brothers and sons... damn.

[@movespammerguyteam7colors]

Yeah, I had a feeling this was going to get dark. The mythology tends to reveal that they only keep this daughters that were born and the sons were left to the elements or worse. There are only a few seemingly genuine good gods in mythology, what makes things difficult is depending on how a god maintains and gains power.

[@tammylewis2408]

This may sound weird, but the TV series, WW went from the WWII era (the 40s) to the Disco Era (the 70s) as the show switched from ABC to CBS. In the 70s era WW, she was helping Steve Trevor Jr., the son of Major Trevor. I started reading about the origins of WW as I grew older, and came to a theory about Steve Trevor Jr., he was WW's son!! If you think about it, in the Return of Wonder Woman TV movie (which introduced the show to CBS), Trevor Jr. tells WW about knowing her thru his late father's stories, but never mentioned his mother. My theory was that somehow Steve Sr. found out about WW's true identity and they got together; she gave birth to Steve Jr. and knowing that her infant son would not be welcomed on Paradise Island, she left him with Steve Sr. Steve Sr. then raised Steve Jr., telling him his mother died in childbirth while she returned to Paradise Island after WWII ended. She was trying to protect Steve Jr. from what happened to other males born in her world, and she trusted Steve Sr. to raise their son until the time was right for her to return. The plane crash on Paradise Island reunited Diana/WW with her long-lost son, and she decides to return to DC to look after him while helping him defeat Cold War spies and terrorists. Definitely would have been a shocker of a storyline for WW and Steve Jr. had the show continued, but it was the 70s and would have been too much for the viewers back then.

[@Reviewer2016]

6:20 thank you all SO MUCH. I remember hearing that particular story line. But I could never figure what specific volume and issue so thanks.

[@jimmyfrench4722]

Never was a DC guy, so had no idea they made Hercules into a horrible supervillain, just damn.

[@PhysicallyAwake]

Meh. All of the Greek gods/goddess and descendants become villains or simply are at one point 😅

[@michaeliv284]

Which is really something when you know their original myth meeting Heracles: Hey... can I have your belt? Hippolyta: Sure, here ya go, dude. Heracles: Wow... thanks. Hippolyta: Wanna bone? Heraclese: Yes! Hera: WTF?!

[@leewinters8245]

Hercules in the actual mythology books .. was a huge rapist.

[@kaineshigaraki5253]

I legitimately paused this to type, man, wouldn’t that be sweet; just a sailor enjoying the freedom that comes from the sea, and then, booty. Amazonian booty. What would I give to be them. Then I pressed play and found out the rest. Damn. [>

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

Take comfort this is all fantasy / mythology.

[@jeremiahperryman948]

That's the new 52 continuity origin story when it came out I found it to be quite shocking especially when considering how close the Amazons from themyscira and the Amazons of bana migdahl came to having a n all out war between each other because the Amazons of themyscira were enraged at the Amazons of bana migdahl because they avoided dying out as a tribe only due to chaining men down and holding them against their will and using them as sexslaves and as unwilling sperm donors!!!(this was the pre new 52 continuity by the way)

[@philpatterson7085]

@@STSWB5SG1FAN While divorce court is not.

[@77sexychocolate]

@@STSWB5SG1FAN Go see The Woman King...based on a true story...real AMAZONS warriors in the 1800's that Europeans don't talk or write about till now..but it's a woman producer! Good to the very end!

[@Ieatpaste23]

@@77sexychocolate They left out the fact the tribe in the movie were the slavers supplying the dutch with slaves. Also, left out the part that the Europeans kicked their asses. None of that movie was historical except the name of the tribe.

[@tulsibeepat3453]

In the Greek myth the Amazons were a plague on the lands where they went until Hercules was sent to subdue them to check their ways of mayhem 😔

[@mikhellen3267]

Written by a man no doubt😂

[@tulsibeepat3453]

Of course they were Greek mythological beings that it took a demigod to subdue not easy prey no pushovers ,that technically human form monsters🤔

[@crimsonking7179]

@@mikhellen3267 They were created by man soon. Atleast in the Greek myths

[@LuisRamirez-kv8un]

He raped the Queen, stole her girdle, and ran when the Amazon threatened war. What version of this story do you have?

[@mikhellen3267]

@@crimsonking7179 The Greek myths themselves were written by a man, just to make my previous statement clear.

[@rubensbarrios5345]

Great video, I liked the way you mentioned the different versions of Wonder Woman origins. Keep up the good job 👍🏼

[@Amos_Lee]

I never thought of the Amazonian’s or wonder woman as virtuous. Wonder woman is more of a pure warrior. She won’t hesitate to kill someone she deems as being bad. The difference being Superman, who tries not to kill anybody, wonder woman doesn’t hold back at all

[@glenmcinnes4824]

Parthenogenesis, Amazons can reproduce by Parthenogenesis and this has become the norm with occasional trips to "Mans World" on missions used as opportunities to harvest fresh blood, most amazons will just be a different genetic expression of their Mothers.

[@draco_1876]

Not really

[@Uthorous]

Okay everyone on youtube seems to be mispronouncing her name so here it is phonetically , Hip - all - i - Ta, not, Hippo - Lee -Ta.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Very gruesome story that I never knew :( thanks for the video.

[@earealcoates4394]

The male of the Amazonian species is given over the the night king.

[@maylabrown4584]

Night King?

[@Naiddou]

or hephastus the blacksmith god to make weapons for amazonians

[@milkman4742]

The Amazons are an immortal race of women created by Aphrodite and a couple other goddesses, They don't need to reproduce so most of the time they just don't. But there are ways to make more Amazons, And in most continuities this isn't it. The Amazons have a well of souls where the souls of dead women get reincarnated into Amazons. For some Amazons like Wonder Woman or Nubia that can also be sculpted by clay and brought to life. Wonder Woman is also only really the daughter of Zeus in the new 52 and the DCEU, Before that she had no dad, she doesn't need one. In modern continuity it's suggested that the zeus origin was a lie, and it's been mentioned multiple times that she's made of clay. Personally I prefer when the Amazons and Wonder Woman don't have father's, the addition always comes off as unnecessary but especially in the case of the new 52, The Amazons aren't rapists.

[@TeaTimeTable]

Never heard of such a story and how exactly do they get reincarnated the soul needs a body to go into can you explain? Also the clay sculpting thing seemed like more of a one-off type of deal I don't think zeus is zapping the sand everytime the amazons sculpt babies

[@milkman4742]

@@TeaTimeTable The Amazons get bodies automatically when their souls are sent to earth

[@EteteHendrix]

The Dahomey Amazons

[@mightyking4619]

Nubia came out of the well of souls. Diana is the only one that's sculpted from clay. But I think that story was retconned too.

[@vice2versa]

No that story is weak imo, i like d this storylines dark version best.

[@tatakae1981]

In short, they are no less monstrous than men.

[@Mii..]

They became what they hated.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Worse even because they were given god like powers that make it impossible for men to defeat or resist them.

[@coordinaciongeneraldeopera1240]

Very interesting video, is that one thing that is clearly seen with Wonder Woman, is that there is an excessive idealization of the Amazons. When you see the Greek myth, you can see nasty things. It would be interesting that in the next movies and TV series, that was more emphasized, it would give a new vision to the character.

[@robbrobb8093]

What’s her mothers name again? …..Adultery? Somethings should be left alone.

[@jomene1125]

Lol 😂😂😂

[@cadeevans4623]

Another awesome video

[@angeluvsvid]

the way you pronouncing their names is making me laugh and ticking me off at the same time 🤣

[@Ieatpaste23]

I'm sitting here saying, "He-fes-tus"

[@gilbertotabares8196]

Mother of all things holy bro! Hippolyta is pronounced *Hip-pall-it-ah!* not *Hippo-laya!*

[@99thJediWarrior]

I gotta agree, that pronunciation he uses made me cringe.

[@ackeemwilliams369]

Thank you ❤

[@flyboymb]

Think that's what the Amazonian cheerleaders called her in Amazonian high school when she was in the Amazonian marching band.

[@GingerwillowTheFeatheryOwl]

Interesting how in Greek mythology Hippolyta is the daughter of Ares and Otrera. Though I suppose Ares would still fight his daughter. He might even kill his daughter but still grieve afterwards.

[@aguasanta]

If WW2 was about this, the movie would've been Oscar worthy

[@juliorodriguez4954]

That’s why when darkside invade Amazon island in one of comics book issues and in the animated movie. I always cheer for darkside. When the omega beam killed entire Amazon battalion, I thought karma just came back hard on them. I know they suffered, but seriously they could have made horrible event as a life lesson. Become better than man, be example of what a true hero is and show the world of man their love, self sacrificing, and respect for life. But no! Instead of following the perfect example of Batman, yes him. He truly shows, with great suffering, you can overcome anything. If you put your mind into it. They could have been a better race, that we as men could hope to achieve. But their nothing but a total disappointment, and should be discarded by the gods.

[@treywilliams7223]

The amazons are nothing but the biggest Hippocrates of the DC universe.

[@mikeyroxxit93]

That's a dumb thing to say about fictional people. They are a race of ppl who were abused so viciously they had to askt the gods to hide them and from that fear grew hatred? Your inability to understand the nuance of that specific story is really telling.

[@SunnieDIY]

Hel is norse. Hades has nothing to do with Hell either. Hes not evil not devil like simply got the short stick when the gods overthrew their father Chronus and got stuck with the underworld. I know its a hard concept for our country hence Disneys version basically being a wheeling and dealing devil but he didnt have to do anything for souls. Bad or good souls went to the underworld.

[@derpscythe]

Weird how they can't just use magic to wipe the sailors memory. I mean if ships keep disappearing every 30 years in a specific area of the sea eventually some ones gonna pick up on that.

[@quamirbrame2653]

I stll can’t believe ah Amazonian overpowers ah literal Demi-god of strength and endurance

[@Kopie0830]

They're goddesses themselves blessed with immense strength. Diana fought with doomsday 1 on 1 only losing when he acclimated to all of her attacks. Also, he was caught unawares and got chocked by an unbreakable chain. It was over in 3 seconds. Imagine getting sucker punched or kicked in the nuts.

[@richardavery4692]

@@Kopie0830 they're DEMI-goddesses, not full gods! Full gods, like Zeus, can take on Superman head to head.

[@mikhellen3267]

They are demigods themselves, from all of the female gods,silly.

[@mikhellen3267]

@@richardavery4692 And the original post was, Amazonian overcoming a demigod, dummy.Full God like Zeus was never mentioned, perhaps you read that somewhere else. Perhaps another post.

[@maylabrown4584]

@@Kopie0830 None of them are Goddesses, the only one with any actual Divine Ancestry is Diana through Zeus. The Creations of a God are not inherently Divine, they are of Divine Origin, but not of Divine Ancestry. Amazons were created, not birthed, thus it makes no sense for them to have been able to do much against say Hercules or even Diana herself.

[@kratoscraken5614]

3:53 "The souls of these sorry women! Hahahaha good one mate 👏 👍 👌

[@onetruekeeper]

A star trek animated series episode called " The Lorelei Signal " has the same idea where only the men aboard a passing starship that goes near a planet in the Taurean system are lured to go down there by a mysterious signal that effects their minds. There the women delight and entertain the men while the life energies are drained from them and they die. The women seem to need the life energy of men to maintain their youth and longevity.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Most of that came from the new 52 retcons.

[@Enriquejunior.18]

Is it still canon?

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@Enriquejunior.18 for the time being. Though Zaslav hasn’t hit DC Comics yet

[@Enriquejunior.18]

@@AncestorEmpire1 so it's a yes

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@Enriquejunior.18 Zaslav: “I took that personally”

[@Enriquejunior.18]

@@AncestorEmpire1 okay sorry

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

very intheresting topic

[@xenowilson]

Amazon back story is basically a huge feminist story.

[@obaolade1232]

This vid shook me to the core and I just realized that themyscara maybe known as the Bermuda triangle because of what the amazons did

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

Don't forget... Amazons are bisexual, and usually non romantic twords men (as they only fulfill the purpose). That submission and bondage is kinda normal during the Golden Age Wonder Woman. As Diana was the mouthpiece for her creators ideas about the superiority of women over men. (I still need to watch the biopic about him, his wife, and his secretary/accepted mistress and the creation of Wonder Wiman the character. )

[@byronrush9802]

You mean the mistress who was also his student at the University

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

@@byronrush9802 Maybe. Never seen the biopic (and Hollywood usually messes facts up in those movies anyways, to blunt the bad stuff people do sometimes).

[@gilgamesh7652]

Creativity comes from "Male Fantasy" sometimes

[@CraigSmithII]

Brian Azzarello's version of Wonder Woman in the New 52 was the best WW run I've ever read

[@arbhall7572]

It's funny to me to hear all this. The Amazon's accept gifts from their deities. But even though those same deities inflict cruel fates on the Amazon's, the foolish women choose instead to blame men. Yeah....sounds about right to me. 2016 you say? The original story gave them much more agency and removed a lot of responsibility and accountability from the Amazon's.

[@TeaTimeTable]

Well if you paid attention and I've known and read this story multiple times the women were killed by the men brought back lived in peace then raped by men and then became the villains themselves afterwards the goddesses didn't inflict any cruel punishment on them but the male gods did.

[@elinolike]

they blame men because the deities who inflicted cruel fates on them WERE MEN.

[@titandarknight2698]

They were hurt and raped by men. Why would anyone want to partner with men afterwards. The gods are heavenly beings. Of course there not going to go against them. Please use some common sense.

[@AustynSN]

I personally dislike the "New Earth" origin because it was just stolen from Cassie Sandsmark (AKA Wonder Girl II)

[@craigwilliams1073]

Outstanding! Good stuff!

[@vr4892]

I’ve always known that amazons were man killers from what I remember about mythology. That’s why when I saw the story of WW, I blew it off. There is no way a being born and raised in that environment given the history of its people, would be some champion of truth and Justice for all. She’d be about women and women only; not about men. She’d no doubt be lesbian and probably a manish lesbian at that.

[@charlottestreet3301]

Well guess what you were wrong about wonder woman because wonder woman cares about both men and women

[@vr4892]

@@charlottestreet3301 yes because it’s a comic that needs fans to make money. In the real world, Diana would be the same as her sisters.

[@99thJediWarrior]

@@charlottestreet3301 She's the exception. The rest of the Amazons are always depicted as being rather indifferent or hateful of men.

[@byronrush9802]

@@99thJediWarrior she didn't care about men at first through her interactions with Steve Trevor she changes

[@crossmaximum3731]

😳

[@therebelsaiyan5559]

Death by SnuSnu?

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Sign me in!

[@Yasuda9000]

Futurama reference. Fry and Zapp Brannigan: Yeah. (High-five each other.)

[@thunderbearcourage]

Just watch the Wonder Woman movies. That is a good way to learn how to pronounce these words correctly.

[@aylinpatacsil846]

*Amazon, or AmazonIAN?* This has been grating on me and it's so common I'd assume it was a matter of fact or used interchangeably... but can any DC expert clarify? I assume, that the Amazons, a collective term, are ThemyscirANS, the suffix identifying them as natives of the named location, Amazon being the collective term for the humanoid female culture, biology and civilization. _A plant from Themyscira would be a Themysciran plant, not an Amazonian plant. And while Thanagarians are from Thanagar, Kryptonians are from Krypton, are Amazonians from 'Amazon'?_

[@akale2620]

Amazon, the place is in South America, the Amazon's are European. Piranhas are Amazonian.

[@jameswest981]

This must be where Supernatural got its Amazonian lore from.

[@FroggoXD69]

i remember reading this comic and being shocked at how they reproducted

[@theghostmaker45]

Wonder woman comics are wild 🤣🤣

[@bossshun9]

In any case, these women had to find a way to keep their way of life going. So, one way or another, they had kids either by making them out of clay or giving natural birth to them. In the end, sure the "Women Leader" may know the truth, but deep down, they know what they must do.

[@ericpowell4350]

So, they make Hercules, the pinnacle of Western masculinity, into some kind of an abuser. Eff the writers.

[@gumball6445]

And the Amazon's are also shit so

[@loveguuuuunnnn]

@Gi Gi remember that Hera made Herakles insane, which is the reason he killed Megara

[@jms7265]

You identify with Hercules… Funny

[@titandarknight2698]

Hercules was always shit.

[@TyroneEpps]

This is great❤❤❤❤

[@rafaelsantos-nl9jd]

is odd that in DC Ares is the enemy of the Amazon, because in mythology he was the patron god of the Amazon, and the father of more than one queen.

[@jasoncoomer1226]

...Easily overpowers Hercules(One of the strongest men in Myths) *The agenda goes back further than I thought....*

[@DTavona]

This "history" is very much a retcon of the original story, and this "modern" interpretation is very much rife with fear of female power, and the notion that there were men enslaved on the Amazon island is in direct contradiction to the original history. The presence of any man on the island threatened the continuity of the island itself. It's a shame that DC allowed the Amazon history to be twisted for mere plot points.

[@brandonbelk1793]

I wonder what the Justice league would do if they learned about this twisted side of the Amazons?

[@bznng-he3rm]

Nothing since it isn't canon anymore and hasn't been for years 💀 The Amazons are back to being nice people

[@GenuineBreezy]

So they did they kill the sailors or their lives were drained from their bodies in a literal sense?

[@shannonhenry5878]

I wish wonder woman surviving brother left the island and train to get stronger and return to bring justice for the dead brother and father

[@robertboykins5495]

Justice is called kratos

[@EnzoVinZ]

A crime is a violation of a law, but if such law doesn't exists, no crime is committed. The Amazonians may be immoral in some standards, but in their culture, it's very well acceptable. Diana see it as wrong or immoral only because of her interaction to the outside world and she didn't experienced the heinous acts that the other Amazons had experienced. In some way, Diana is out of touch from the reality of the Amazonian. This is why the Wonder Woman story is very compelling, the reader understood the Amazonian even though they may not agree with their methods, which made the reader more attached to the struggles and pains that Diana faces. Although the movie adaptation is great, they lost the fundamental characteristics of Wonder Woman. And please, her name is pronounced as Hee-poh-lee-tah, not Hee-pho-leh-yah or Hee-pho-leh-nah. Nevertheless, great video.

[@rainbowfamily7846]

actually in greek myths ares doesn't like war without purpose and though he does like to fight he fights to protect his brothers and sisters.

[@petertyson4022]

Sorry I don't like the " the modern comic age " much. Don't get me wrong some story's and art are brilliant. But I still like the gold, silver and bronze age comics. I like the original wonder woman's birth. The comics like to call goddess, gods ,which a male chauvinist view of life. At lest deity is a good word . Anyway. The breath of aphrodite give life to WW. Also give her beauty inside and outside. Hermes give the gift of speed and flight. Athena give the gift of wisdom. Demeter give her strength of the earth. I think there were 2 more. But I can't remember and my comics are packed away. Goggle only helping a bit. One more thing. In ancient Greek myths there 2 story's I know with the death of hippolyta and the amazon's. Both were accident, kind of. One is in Borth story's the Prince of power and the amazon queen respected each over. kidnapping and theft. In the dc comics they made hercules a brute. But I think W. Marston was making a point in 1941. Good show. 👍😊

[@kgosimagano8966]

Fun fact: In the New 52, Wonder Woman has a younger twin brother named Jason

[@dogbombballet]

Wrong! The Amazon is in Africa/South America. My wife is a Wonder Woman. Her great granny was born and raised in Manaus, Brazil on the banks of the Amazon and everytime ... She looks at me the way a preying mantis looks at her mate.

[@Sov-Ryn15]

Were forced to fight, and eventually chose to continue the violence and hatred. Glorified sexism…good job ladies. Feigning nobility and innocence, only to be just as or even more so corruptible and devious

[@Embrinna]

I was confused for a moment "Who is Hipoleya?" Until i read someone's comment and realized you meant "Hippolyta" lol

[@steventipton5130]

Great video

[@essiejohnson9632]

True Feminist the Amazon were angry at men for what there God's did to them

[@fishingmasterstudios9481]

and then they blamed all men as bad, in doing so act no better when they just use men to have kids with and dispose of them afterwords

[@titandarknight2698]

Men hurt and raped them. Who wouldn't be angry at them? Why would a tribe with such a long history of hardships against men want to be with them? Gods are heavenly beings. It's not possible to fight against all of them. Also they aren't true feminist. As femenists dont hate men

[@titandarknight2698]

@@fishingmasterstudios9481 Thats just one part of the myth. Cultures back then had different morals. I mean you see it now with china. Where they would choose male babies over female babies.

[@tomfuller4205]

Athena was the God of Love and War. Ares was the God of (Personal) Combat.

[@Ieatpaste23]

Athena is war and Wisdom, Aphrodite is love. Athena's also a bitch.

[@p.s.9658]

Yup. She was the "tactical" or "mind", Ares was the "muscle" or "action".

[@williammolis1708]

Wow nice something I did not know about wonder women but thought it was a human man and her mother ok ty God bless

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

now i hate amazons

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

@@Saddonghussein but sad

[@thalmoragent9344]

Facts

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

@@Saddonghussein get lost, i literally watched the video

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

@@Saddonghussein problem?

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

@@Saddonghussein you dont even know what you are talking about anymore, go get some rest

[@Razielporter]

Strange.... booty.... I'm dying over here!

[@docblade3270]

Easier explanation: they created the story but never thought about some justification, so created that feminist story about Hercules to justify the men hate of the amazons!

[@fishingmasterstudios9481]

they blame the race of men for the ' weirdest ' mistake of just one

[@skinnypoorchild414]

imagine modern women got an island to themselves 😂

[@fuckmondays2300]

This is the perfect example of how that would work out

[@p.s.9658]

There's a plenty of youtube videos with that issue on a reality.

[@titandarknight2698]

Are you saying this in a mocking way ?

[@skinnypoorchild414]

@@titandarknight2698 i just said imagine while looking at what we have in the current dating pool..

[@Memememe-is1yn]

And I thought you were just going to say that they were all just members of Zeus' harem or something like that.

[@Jon-pw2ik]

I always just sorta thought they just cut their little beans and winkies off and bam, now you have a little girl

[@angeluvsvid]

in a Marv Wolfman George Perez Dc comics storyline Zeus tried to take advantage of Diana which makes me not like nor care for him

[@greenliongirl07]

Well, there is some basis for that in Greek mythology, Perceus who defeated Medusa was one of Zeus's sons (he took the firm of sunlight and visited a woman locked away because her dad was told by the oraclethat his grandson would kill him-- though it turned out to be an accident) and was the Grandfather of Hercules, who is also a son of Zeus.

[@vernonhampton5863]

You guys have good videos, but why is every narrator so inconstant with your pronunciation of certain word?

[@InnocentDJ]

Good story and video

[@bobreil7464]

If we're going to talk about the darkness of Wonder woman let's discuss how her original creators often depicted her in complicated s&m poses tied up with her own rope because that was her weakness because the artists were into s&m.

[@michaeliv284]

...how is that worse than killing men after having sex with them, assuming the sex was consentual?

[@Mii..]

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[@Ieatpaste23]

I think it's funny that DC tries to make the Greek Gods sound good, they were anything but. Just ask Medusa and Arachne.