Marxist Economics, Abolition of Wage Slavery and the Crisis of Capitalism - Shahram Azhar -

[@kalidasswaminathan4341]

My father was a card holding member of the CPi from 1948 to '68. He was in fact, a full-time party worker living on the Party Wage. So, I grew up listening to these arguments. My problem is that the communists have not improved their arguments nor junked their jargon. However, my father, unlike this Amherst boy, lived all his life in India and fought his battles not in US classrooms but in the streets of Delhi. This man earns in dollars given by the same imperialist and lectures us? The sheer hypocrisy is staggering. Besides, Faiz and Faraz both of whomI had met and spent time talking with, were not the founders or even the leaders of the Non aligned movement or afro Asian unity but it were Nehru, Nasser and Sukarno.

[@AjitJoshi686]

They were rigid, dogmatic unwilling to compromise. Currently the so called right wing is economic left now. Modi Govt gives free food to 800 million while the left is now looking at interesting issues like pronouns, whether biological men can use ladies toilet and such glorious issues.

[@fakebatli]

The communists have also had the opportunity to implement quite a lot of their arguments/ideas in multiple countries, which without exception, have failed.

[@ViewsGoogler]

North Korea is true communist country

[@rohand04]

The reality is they have only argument.. no solution.. and their solution whenever and wherever applied has been disaster of multiple proportion.. be it in family or country.. My grandfather was a communist party member.. and by far the worse selfish guy i have seen , god bless his soul

[@notalokivariant]

@@fakebatli Sweden? Finland? certain Singaporian policies?

[@usamaqasim9715]

Bohat dair kar di meharbaan aatay aatay. Ever since I listened to the first TPE podcast with Dr Shahram. I have been eagerly waiting and requesting to bring him back. Thanks a lot Shahzad. More Power to you.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@DrAltafVelmi14847]

Good conversation

[@TheIndianAnubhav]

The Best Podcast I have ever came across with. Peace, love and courage to Shehzad for doing this thankless job. Respect from bottom of my heart

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@Haplessg]

Suggestion: Please add the works cited by the guests in the description, especially for academically inclined conversations. Good podcast, keep them coming!

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[@fsheryar]

Thanks!

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[@saadmahmo0d]

Hes been one of my favourite guests on your podcasts. Loved the earlier podvasts you did with him and Dr Taimur Rahman

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[@osamamahmud]

Thanks

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[@SatishKumar-fj7uc]

got tired of hearing muslim muslim in this conversation...damn these guys connect everything to religion

[@usamaqasim9715]

Aap ja kay Beer Biceps dekhain. 🤣

[@SatishKumar-fj7uc]

@@usamaqasim9715 quran se dimag bahar nikalen bhaijaan

[@usamaqasim9715]

Kia masla kia hai is main agar Islam ki baat kar li to ?

[@SatishKumar-fj7uc]

@@usamaqasim9715 organically baat krne aur har topic ko islam se jodke tabah karne mein farkk hai bhaijaan........

[@usamaqasim9715]

@@SatishKumar-fj7uc Kya masla hai Quran parhnay say ?

[@zeeshanahmed430]

i dont know this guy but in his 2 hr podcast he has left dozens of references to be consulted to grasp his whole conversation.termendous podcast shahzad Hats off to you.I wish we would have more SHAHZADs to do what Goverments, teachers, religous scholars are deemed to do at the first place.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@alokranjan5410]

Instead I m sceptical to Marxists/Socialist economic idea but this man has explained brilliantly with example. Great podcast, very knowledgeable.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@abhijitmaisuria5703]

LoL.. is it a joke?

[@CullinaryAyesha]

The best podcast and someone I have been following for a long time and I have seen you grow from fb to now here. One of the best humans who’s transparent yet honest

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@muhammadasiffarooqi7672]

This podcast was awesome. I loved it. I am loving recent thought behind things podcasts and yours this one

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@rijuparmar6310]

Very nice podcast. One of the best I have came across so far. Best wishes. Keep up the good work.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@anilkumar-fk8fc]

Great podcast yaar, had to think alot with this one thanks to you guys. Always love the most opinenated guests. My agreements and disagreements with the discussion made me understand my own ideas/concepts more! Thank you for another one.

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[@aazibakram4648]

The fact that my 12 year old brother knows how to run a country better than establishment and government in the Game Cityskylines

[@nightswithd]

haha 200 lac population hogai hai meri city ki bhe

[@something1162]

I'm just halfway through, but I want to suggest making this guest a regular on TPE. Maza agaya, he explains these concepts so simply and his analyses are so expansive. Aur mujhay angrezi ati toh hai, lekin ab bhi jab koi apni zubaan mein sikhata hai toh lagta hai kabhi bhoolay ga nahin. Loved it ❤

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[@VenkatRaghvan-dc3mf]

Shahram Azhar is excellent.He might have not provided practical solutions but description of issues with Capitalism is awesome. Can we have more of him ? It was being dishonest when he refused to answer ques on Tibet/China. It is unbelievable that he is not aware of it.

[@umairharoon7]

Everything is in theory for communist. They haven't been able to turn things around for Russia or China With Marxist Also the guy after every sentence "hmmm" like hamara qasoor hai capitalism lanay mein

[@lepetitprince2188]

Yeah because it's not practical. Communists are delusional idealists who think they could achieve some sort of equality which isn't possible. Even if they could implement it, it would last for a second or two.

[@jamshedfbc]

Important conversation. To be honest, colonialism that Msulims did should have also been mentioned since Europeans are not the only colonizers. It's good to hear that he doesn't defend North Korea or China blindly. Loved the podcast ❤❤❤

[@ahmedsalar9016]

The colonization of Europeans was significantly different from that of previous occupations. You can ask GPT how it was different. Also ask GPT of how European colonialism links with enlightenment, capitalism and otherization.

[@Engineers2]

so impressed hearing him for the first time since i started listening your podcast

[@vikas__patel24]

Capitalism system hi socialism ko fund karti hai.. USA spend roughly 15 pc of gdp after social schemes, subsidies, pension.. Compare to USA , socialist india spend 6-7 pc of gdp after the same.. So you can spend only if you can earn. In india you can live on government ration, subsidised gas.. even govt giving money to build toilets.. We are able to do all this bcoz we liberalised economy and reject nehruvian socialism which you guys are trying to promoting.

[@sumeetvalrani7030]

I cant say I agree with everything that was said. I cannot say the solutions proposed is even implementable. I enjoyed being pushed to think about an alternate view point. This will remain in my mind for many weeks. thank you.

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[@aqibd]

First time heard Shahram, what a guy, very informative and insightful podcast.

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[@tapasvibhardwaj]

Thanks shehzad...for such nice content ❤❤

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[@MrGillani7]

Zabardast podcast! Kudos to both Shahram and Shehzad🎉❤

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[@livewithamirhussain9202]

What a wonderful program Great work

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[@jugnuokaydais]

Kafi dino k baad achi podcast ki hai Shahzad 😊

[@shafilashari84]

It is simply mind opening.

[@bbalila]

1st Slave brought to USA but they were only 250-270k rest 1 millions went to Brazil & Caribbean on the other hand 2 million Slaves exported by Arabs & still they doing same called modern day slavery. 2nd China & India were 50% GDP of the world but that was before Industrial Revolution, tell me which agricultural country is Rich due to Agriculture? Who ever good in Tech will rule the world. Airbus A-350 cost $350 million , how much land one need to fetch $350 million or how many T shirts has to manufacture to buy a A-350 plane ✈️? 3rd Oxford was Established around 1050AD Cambridge was in 1200AD, Any country who wanted to progress done in 30 year. Germany & Japan came back from ashes, If British looters then how Rawanda, Singapore, Taiwan. Thailand , Vietnam, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Became rich or Middel income from nothing and with no resources. 4th Thailand & Ethiopia were not colonised, so why they didn’t became Rich? He Living in lulu land.

[@javariyahtayyab4052]

Was waiting for this one for ages!!

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@Waqas-Umer]

The only thing he dint say is that the earth is flat. Lol

[@HamizAli-my9jy]

Thanks for asking my question to Dr Shahram.

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[@methanraj2543]

TPE is an addiction❤ One of the best Episode

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[@NoLogicNoFight]

What I got is; the basic issue is the profit margins? You want the companies reduce the profits margins and give more money the intermediaries (labors, etc)??? Will it make you less angry 😡???

[@An11Ran]

What a nice podcast.... I definitely don't agree fully with Marxists but this Podcast was so enriching ... Real Intelligent Podcast

[@ShahaliShah-i4n]

God bless. Still hopeful in future of Pakistan when hear sane voices like sharam and Shahzad

[@faizankhan3227]

Wonderful ! Just wonderful

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[@Edmon1235]

He is smarter than his holy book , slave is legally in slam

[@Cansydh]

Khalistan Jindabad

[@oasisjan1]

this feels like old school Pakistan experience episode..brilliant

[@hamzanadeem3611]

BC kamaal podcast. Please ye bhi batao Das kapital new kahan say milay gi?

[@zaarichard4597]

Best podcast on this planet for Pakistanis

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[@imrankumbhar14ar17]

Wonderful discussion i enjoyed a lot.

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[@shashwattripathi4559]

This man is proof that confidence ke saath agar jhooth bhi bolo to sach lagta hai

[@SatishKumar-fj7uc]

@@shashwattripathi4559 well, a classic trained marxist

[@ViewsGoogler]

he is not different from a true jihadi

[@Cansydh]

Khalistan Jindabad

[@Jamesgandolfini99]

Like modi ?

[@shashwattripathi4559]

​@@Jamesgandolfini99ofc. Modi is a politician. All politicians are proficient liars. However my point was more about his economic ideology

[@AbdullahKhan-zt6rq]

What a phenomenal economist sharam Azhar is

[@HistorywithShahrukh]

Achi podcast thi kafi kuch seekhny ko mila hai ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@CR7Ashironaldo]

There is a fundamental problem when you want to unite workers of the world but also champion Islam. Why should non-Islamic workers join forces with you ? Atheism is the only way.

[@umerehsan9205]

Excellent podcast...

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[@farhanakbar996]

Shehzad bhai mazaa aa gaya podcast ka. Shahram azhar ko more often invite kia karain, unka prospective ziada logical hai baqi Marxists ki nisbat😊😊😊

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[@shatnermohanty6678]

Shehzad Bhai , KZbin algorithm recommended me your video with Rabeea Khan . I have saved in my playlist to watch later 👍

[@Tsuphian]

Wahin se uth kr aya hun abhi jab iska notification aya 😂

[@shatnermohanty6678]

@@Tsuphian 😆👍

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[@zishanraza2761]

6:36 :) yes there are lot of freedom speech in left wing communist government, china , north Korea cuba 🥰 there was also too much freedom of speech in ussr 😆

[@munazzafarooq4218]

Hope you had listened to atleast half of the oodcast

[@techlegram6367]

Such podcast videos having million viewerships

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[@techlegram6367]

​@@ThePakistanExperiencejust want to tell you that I am the one criticize you a lot on your other thoughts

[@Letsbeveryclear]

Love how passionately he speaks about his marxist cause

[@umairharoon7]

After Every sentence "hmmm"

[@BilalMustikhan]

Glad to see my Ustaad back on TPE!

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@thanoss77]

btw NVIDIA quarterly earnings are more than USD 20 billion and not USD 7 billion as mentioned by the guest.

[@imranhaider9809]

Great episode .

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[@vikas__patel24]

What happened to socialist communist USSR ? they crushed every voice... Even hanged pm of USSR's satellite state.. stores were empty without food.. countries fell in debt trap.

[@Vicky-w9z]

Like always very good great 👍👍❤❤ keep going 🎉🎉🎉

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[@WKSOnce]

Nice video, I completely disagree with the central thesis regarding abolition of Capitalism. Still good to here alternative viewpoints time to time. He presents old viewpoints of Marxism again in a modern context. All of us know that Marxists have good criticisms of Capitalism but that is where their contribution ends. None of the solutions offered by Marxists are practical because they aren't suggesting policies for real human societies, they are suggesting it for an abstract ideal version of it. Socialism works only in Hyper Trust based societies. A family, small tribe etc. can work out socialism amongst them but this never happens in a large population. Every species have their share of "Cheaters" in the population who try to monopolize shared resources, sadly this happens in human societies, even in the ones that tried to implement socialism. But Capitalism is flexible to accommodate corrective mechanisms whereas in socialism all you are left with is a large controling State that tries to gate keep every resource and eventually becomes the sole monopoly. Side note: The reason people from subcontinent can't be allowed to just move into Scandinavia is same why Apes(with far less sophisticated differences when compared to humans) have warring tribes. We are built with a xenophobic tendency. You can't allow overriding of a societies' culture and practices in the name of Global Citizenship.

[@sewaligoswami781]

Excellent points.

[@huzefahabib1137]

Very well written❤

[@abdulhadi344]

See china Vietnam bolivia Cuba

[@zainali5741]

Was waiting patiently

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[@tusharjain9366]

Certainly, pak needs more people like azhar to fasten the demise of it. 😅

[@JaiShivrai]

😂😂😂

[@abdulamin8908]

What a genius man I liked him ❤

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[@queenPAK]

❤ wow what a zaberdast qualifications. Mashallah 🎉

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[@zukhiro]

I have seen many info segments from you which are very informative. I would also be interested to know how the government spends its money especially how govt officers are compensated and what privilege they or their descendants get and for how long.

[@AhSaNL11]

Lots of good information here.

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[@syedraza9087]

Finally shahram is here

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[@sherjeilabbas]

Guy was Marxist economist but he explained capitalism the whole idea of communism is to just rant on capitalism

[@shivampatil23]

Inflation in india 😂😂😂😂 Problem of Madrasa education 😂😂

[@arifsaleem5467]

He is the father of your father's in the field of education. Cowcola drinking Tunni. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@indmusiclover]

yes and he and all Pakistanis add India to fascism along with Bangladesh, Russia etc. Funny even after the recent elections!!! Indian economic resurgence has been mostly because of bolstering the systems that need to function to get where India is today (yes there is politics but that is democracy!). Who is to explain all this!

[@shivampatil23]

@@arifsaleem5467 Pakistani Madrasa Mulla 🍆🍆☪️☪️🇵🇰🇵🇰

[@adarshyadav5926]

@@arifsaleem5467 tabhi itna badhia haal hai education ka Pak me. Madarsachaap hi rehna hai tumhe humesha🤡

[@arifsaleem5467]

@@adarshyadav5926 And you keep drinking cowcola and keep preaching and reciting senseless Vedas.

[@hamzanadeem5527]

You had me at if you want to make money :p (Can not praise this podcast enough)

[@ViewsGoogler]

2:07:05 BEWAQOOF - Chinese (is) Democracy???

[@prabhakar257]

The best answer to this ideology.....2% bana ke de phir baat karna.

[@UsmanAli-db6yl]

What a great pod cast, maza ah gaya

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[@unmuktyatree8200]

Great speaker ...

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[@unmuktyatree8200]

@@ThePakistanExperience On AMU he seem to be over criticizing, which is a luxury ignoring the historical realities

[@techlegram6367]

Great podcast

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[@nowie4007]

Even though i like leftists , unfortunately i believe the guest ideas rely way too much on emotion and rhetoric rather than on having a solid logical foundation upon which you could a Marxist society that doesn't devolve into either authorianism or just remain as a fantasy of a Utopia

[@hassanbajwa2498]

Insightful as was very much expected. However, Shahram looked a little delirious. He should have been more calm while explaining big ideas in simple terms. Nevertheless, a great episode. Keep up the good work , Shahzad. Look forward to watching many more episodes.

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[@ThePakistanExperience]

Mujhay toh zabardast lagay Shahram

[@miloshayk1724]

Best Guest so far

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[@hamzanadeem5527]

Any solution that begins with "If the whole world started to....." nai chalay ga

[@saadidrees7771]

2:01:49 mera khyaal hy asal khubsoorati lafz saroon me hy jis ka aik matlab to insani sar he hoga....or dusra matlab meri khwahish k mutabiq ya ain mumkin hy shaayer ki danista funkari k mutabiq ...punjabi k lafz saroon (jis ka matlab sarsoon hy) k sath word play wala element rakha ho

[@Engineers2]

I am coming last podcast dr taimur and shahram. Please arrange new podcast for both of the them. Because marxism learning is every fascinating specially talking new and old marxism

[@siddhantshukla7259]

Watching 20 mins of this killed my brain cells

[@AM_Qureshi]

Tomorrow morning walk will be fun and longer than usual ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@nightswithd]

at the end he said code bhe exploited software engineer as banwaya hai sari ki sari development or reserach ko ignore kar di a

[@sunny32500]

He is against AMU and did PhD from Massachusetts .Height of Doglapan

[@VenkatRaghvan-dc3mf]

What is wrong in doing Phd from Massachusetts and being against AMU?

[@muhammadgulsherkhan304]

Loved it

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[@feisalkhan8673]

This man is stuck in a time warp that dates to about 1974, the heyday of Wallerstein's World Systems theory, and worse! I can't believe that anyone with a PhD in Economics, even from UMass Amherst, is still going to argue Marx's profit crisis under capitalism crap! Give me an effing break!

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

lol "Marxist Economics" aka - I failed Econ 101 test on basic demand and supply, and eventually failed behavioural economics as well.

[@rroshan]

Ye Marxist complex problem ko over simplify Kar k solve Karte hain to lagta hai itna padhe Kya ye log. Ye to 10th standard ka student bhi ye solution dega. Demand and supply is a universal economic truth aur agar government will control everything then it will lead to authoratinian government

[@Rahulprajapati79-k2g]

Tabhi ye american capitalist ke 14 puri duniya ke lode laga ke khud maze le rahe hain 😂.

[@sampheonix]

Hmmm .... hmmmmm .... hmmm ... hmmm...😅 However, i really enjoyed this podcast. Thanks TPE❤. I have developed more love towards economics after this podcast 🎉

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[@anythings3946]

There are two things that are going to be soon introduced one is some form of UBI and the other is MAT (Market Access tax), Soon Corporate tax and Income tax are going to be abolished.

[@mahnoorawan6554]

OG here!!!❤

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[@NumberWorld]

*Left Situation in Pakistan:* their slave's Master candidate *Ammar Ali Jan got mere 1500 Votes* in recent Pakistan elections, who gave the exact *same Capitalist rant* for his campaigning

[@vineethsn]

NVIDIA last quarter earnings was $26 B and net income $14B 😊 13:48

[@ViewsGoogler]

2:18:08 abe SUVVARY KI OULAD, who is stopping you from living in Capitalist Communist China or pure Communist North Korea? - both treats Jihadi as suvvar.

[@sushilkhadka2467]

To point out flaws in any system is very easy and even a child without any degrees or knowledge can do so. Nothing is ideal I know but marxism is worse. Implementation of Marxism is pointless since we are humans not robots. While attempting to follow the ideology fascist regimes rise and things get worse. This ideology gives rise to authoritarian rather than classless and stateless societies . Elites are the ones who take benefits from the system and start advocating marxism. Just look around and try to find leaders who are communist and compare their living style to the average people and you will see the reality.If they are successful to prevail this ideology then they will have the authority and they will prosper but common man will suffer more. This is the history and will always be the same

[@usamaqasim9715]

Yes I do think that that is where Marxism fails. You take all the resources and industries under the Public Sector and then what? A new Elite Class emerges consisting of higher ups from the Public Sector like the bureaucracy. And the cycle continues.

[@sabahamid-l9g]

when one says , always , one is already misled !

[@qasimshahzad4211]

Brilliant guests yarr

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[@asan506]

دوسری بات ۔۔۔ یہ کمیونسٹ دوست پچھلے کئی سو سال میں ایک دو ملک چھوڑ کے ایک آدھ کمپنی ہی بنا کر کے چلا کے دیکھا دیتے کہ ایسے کام ہوتا ہے اور یہ ہے وہ نظریہ جس کی یہ سر توڑ کوشش کر رہے ہیں کہ ساری دنیا پہ نافذ کر دیا جائے ۔ ایسا اگر کوئی ادارہ یا ادارے قائم ہیں اور کامیابی سے چل رہے ہیں اور مجھے نہیں معلوم تو میرے علم میں ضرور اضافہ کیجئے!

[@shehzadshah4104]

If economic freedom, and I assume he means economic progress as well, cannot happen without political freedom, what does he have to say about China?

[@ilmanafasih4522]

Great conversation. Idea of third world nations to unite is amazing.

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[@fahadqadir14]

shehzad why do you discuss the personal life of the people ( iqar ul hassan) ?

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Public life discuss hay Sirf

[@asadjakhar6618]

Very interesting podcast. 1:37:23 😄

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