Mary, Mother of God: What the Early Church Fathers Believed

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4 жыл бұрын

Using some of the earliest Christian writings as well as modern Church documents, Tim shows the “organic connection between our spiritual life and the dogmas” (Catechism 89) and that Mary “unites in her person and re-echoes the most important doctrines of the Faith” (Lumen Gentium 65). He brings to light the axiom “No Mary, No Jesus; Know Mary, Know Jesus” as exemplified by this most ancient Marian dogma. This talk is an excerpt from the 2019 Catholic Answers Annual Conference.
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@valuciorodrigues
@valuciorodrigues 3 жыл бұрын
I literally heard this talk twice and I'm still amazed at this dogma 😍😍🙏🏽😇 no one nails a talk on Mary like Tim Staples 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼
@tesschavit3009
@tesschavit3009 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you Sir Tim, thank you for defending our catholic faith.
@judyaugustus2321
@judyaugustus2321 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for strengthening my FAITH
@JillRice
@JillRice Жыл бұрын
This was so helpful in my new walk in Catholicism. God Bless
@seangallagher9580
@seangallagher9580 4 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong Catholic, son of a Southern Baptist Mama and an Irish Catholic from the North, growing up in the Bible Belt in central Georgia, Mary was always a stumbling block for me. I grew up reading the Bible and receiving a very poor catechesis from CCD. There was no EWTN or Catholic Answers or Ascension Press, so my "exegesis" of the text came from listening to great preachers like Charles Stanley or Paul Walker, whose sermons were available on stations out of Atlanta. I was a Catholic with a very Protestant take on the meaning of Bible passages. Mind you, I was not Sola Scriptura, but I had no knowledge of the Fathers or Tradition. What little I knew about the teachings of the Church about Mary seemed to contradict what the Scriptures said. I am so thankful for the growing number of apologetics apostolates today that are correcting the misconceptions that I and so many Catholics like me developed in the late twentieth century.
@toyosioyejobi309
@toyosioyejobi309 3 жыл бұрын
You have just admitted that you reject the scriptures and you take writings of men over what is recorded that christ and his disciples taught. You need to reevaluate maam. Are you following christ or the ideas of men??
@seangallagher9580
@seangallagher9580 3 жыл бұрын
@@toyosioyejobi309 I admitted no such thing. I study the scriptures daily. What I admitted was that I stopped interpreting scripture for myself to my detriment. I am following Christ in the way that he asked that we follow him, not in my own, misguided way like I used to.
@DarkAngel-cj6sx
@DarkAngel-cj6sx 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I still love Dr Staley, but I am learning about the church and our Lady. I even ordered a chaplet( never had it before so excited)
@josemadrigal2293
@josemadrigal2293 3 жыл бұрын
@@toyosioyejobi309 and you ae proof of how protestants interpret everything on their own, with out regard for the truth or respect for their fellow men.
@toyosioyejobi309
@toyosioyejobi309 3 жыл бұрын
@@josemadrigal2293 I don't care of protestants or interpretation. I care about what the letters and books in the new testament historical account records of the life, teachings, practices amd beliefs of Jesus, the apostles, and the new testament Christian communities
@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch
@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch 4 ай бұрын
Hail Mary Full of grace The Lord is with you Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus Holy Mary, Mother of God Pray for us sinners Now and at the hour of our death Amen.
@danicajvv
@danicajvv 4 жыл бұрын
O Mary, you are Beloved Daughter of God the Father, Beloved Mother of God the Son, and Beloved Spouse of God the Holy Spirit. PS thank you for an excellent talk!
@annakareninnav2427
@annakareninnav2427 4 жыл бұрын
1/9 of Catholic conference: Present!!! Thank you so much Catholic answers for always generously providing media for us to learn more about our one catholic faith!!!
@Msc762
@Msc762 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the talk Catholic Answers.
@nickymaz05
@nickymaz05 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think the biggest thing for our protestant friends to understand is that by calling Mary the Mother of God we are not trying to make Mary out to be the mother of the Godhead, or say that she is divine or superhuman. We are simply affirming the divinity of Christ from the very moment of his conception.
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 3 жыл бұрын
yup...
@ghostapostle7225
@ghostapostle7225 3 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 Because she's the mother of a PERSON (as every other mother), in this case, the SECOND PERSON of the Trinity, wich is Jesus Christ.
@wreloise1
@wreloise1 4 жыл бұрын
Continue to “believe to understand”. Thank you
@kuyajosephtutorials9709
@kuyajosephtutorials9709 3 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth once told Mary as MOTHER OF MY LORD... In the Bible, Jesus is called my Lord and my God... The Word Lord in the Bible also Means God...
@ruthheredia5262
@ruthheredia5262 3 ай бұрын
Rivetting. Breathtaking at the end. Thanks be to God for converting Tim Stsples.
@Steve-qr2lm
@Steve-qr2lm 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest that ever lived; He had no servants, yet they called Him Master. He had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. He had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet Kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He had no crime, yet they crucified Him. He had no need, yet He forgave them as they mocked. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus Christ and He is the Saviour of the world.
@johnnyrivera7665
@johnnyrivera7665 4 жыл бұрын
All through miracles! He shows us just who he is!
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 7 ай бұрын
AMEN!!! ☦️♥️🙏
@yakublugun1945
@yakublugun1945 4 жыл бұрын
I believe in the Holy Catholic church and in the blessed Trinity.
@sabaghebreghzabhier3382
@sabaghebreghzabhier3382 4 жыл бұрын
@Kavid Dwiz What has to do with repent?
@donjon2023
@donjon2023 4 жыл бұрын
Kavid Dwiz. Okay Satan
@POCCNRCKNbY
@POCCNRCKNbY 4 жыл бұрын
Kavid Dwiz Half those numerals weren’t used until the middle ages. Stop with these satanic lies. You’re being played.
@dilipmathangi5434
@dilipmathangi5434 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Mister devil is father of all lies n you are decived by satan that's why you can't see the true church one holy catholic Church.
@dilipmathangi5434
@dilipmathangi5434 4 жыл бұрын
@@POCCNRCKNbY you are already played by devil coz it can't digest the truth
@chitocontreras3680
@chitocontreras3680 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Stables for sharing your wisdom with us. Please pray for me that I may love her the way Jesus wants her to be loved. May God bless you more and your family and Catholic Answers.
@Emper0rH0rde
@Emper0rH0rde 4 жыл бұрын
The *Bible* teaches that Mary is the Mother of Jesus, who is God in the flesh. If you're a sola scriptura protestant, there is no way around that. And that tells me protestants are less concerned about only going by the Bible, and more concerned with doing the opposite of what Rome does.
@marcmarc8524
@marcmarc8524 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@thewisestofthemall
@thewisestofthemall 3 жыл бұрын
"And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord* should come to me?" - Elizabeth
@annettea4334
@annettea4334 3 жыл бұрын
@TheDay Cometh How many times are Jesus and God mentioned in a Catholic mass? How many times is Mary mentioned? One of the problems is that Protestants tend to equate prayer with worship. For Catholics, these are two distinct things, with worship being reserved for God alone at mass, with the Eucharist at its core. A question for you: do you think Joshua equated the Ark of the Covenant to God when he protrated himself before it? NB The Ark held the Word of God in stone, Mary held the Word of God in the flesh (this is called typology and was used by the early Christians, the Apostles' disciples, to read the OT in light of the NT and vice versa.) God bless.
@thewisestofthemall
@thewisestofthemall 3 жыл бұрын
@TheDay Cometh Jesus has a Mother and She is Mary. Jesus is our Lord and Savior. There's one God in three persons, Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
@thewisestofthemall
@thewisestofthemall 3 жыл бұрын
@TheDay Cometh You're assuming again. Maybe you're brainwashed by your cult. There's only one Church established by Jesus and that's the Holy Catholic Church, so you're the one who belongs to a cult of false teaching.
@galileovenica6449
@galileovenica6449 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Staples brought me so much closer to Mary
@TheRealFrank0
@TheRealFrank0 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! This is exactly what I've been waiting for!!
@jamescurtin4412
@jamescurtin4412 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding praise God and thank you Tim and thank you Catholic answers
@susanp.fujita3035
@susanp.fujita3035 4 жыл бұрын
SimplyAMAZING TIM STAPLES 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
@shannonabeywardena7323
@shannonabeywardena7323 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tim!!
@kyriosbooks8400
@kyriosbooks8400 4 жыл бұрын
If you could put english subs it would be great, so we can translate easier.. Anyway, keep up the good work, blessings!
@sugarbear8574
@sugarbear8574 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, based on some of the responses from those that disagree it is easy to understand how taking a verse out of context and/or relying on one's own interpretation leads protestants away from the Truth.
@dkol3250
@dkol3250 4 жыл бұрын
Man this audio is a rollercoaster ride. Needs a little doctoring. Good content though.
@Dannyboy0202
@Dannyboy0202 3 жыл бұрын
Ha needs a little doctoring no pun intended you should've said there 😜
@sloanjackson8
@sloanjackson8 4 жыл бұрын
Blessings, and many thanks for the content!
@anastasiaflynn5108
@anastasiaflynn5108 4 жыл бұрын
Luke 1:48 for he has remembered me, his lowly servant! From now on all people will call me bless 49 because of the great things the Mighty God has done for me. His name is holy Amen thank you
@mathewg5023
@mathewg5023 4 жыл бұрын
I got the chance to see and greet this dude.. great info he’s provided
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 3 жыл бұрын
Sing her praise, ye seraphim... Join our song, ye cherubim... Heaven and earth resound the hymn... Salve, salve, salve regina...
@arthurjrramo6797
@arthurjrramo6797 4 жыл бұрын
God bless..
@ash2357577
@ash2357577 4 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence. Today is the feast of St. Cyril of Alexandria, a firm defender of the title Theotokos. In the second reading for the Office of Readings for his feast, there is a nice excerpt of him defending Mary as Theotokos, even quoting St. Athanasius as a firm defender of the truth.
@noels8817
@noels8817 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Staples is really the most apt speaker in Catholic Answers on Mary, regarding her unique place in salvation history. Ask Tim.
@micahmiller1227
@micahmiller1227 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God everyone is accountable for their own interpretation who God is. You stand before your lord and profess whom and I will stand before mine and profess who.
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 3 жыл бұрын
One of the overlooked facts about Mary in the Church is the pivotal role she plays in the definition of the dogma of the Trinity, which is not fleshed out in the New Testament but was developed in the Sacred Tradition.
@MrJeepty
@MrJeepty 3 жыл бұрын
Seven commercials imbedded. This must be a good one 🙂
@catholiccom
@catholiccom 3 жыл бұрын
That's almost as bad as Hulu!
@MM22272
@MM22272 Жыл бұрын
The recording volume is clear, but quite low. My volume is maximised and it sounds as if it's on low.
@rubenmartinez4346
@rubenmartinez4346 4 жыл бұрын
Mary is daughter of God, mother of Jesus Christ and spouse of the Holy Spirit.
@queenofhearts7726
@queenofhearts7726 4 жыл бұрын
Amen! You got that right. I don’t think I’d want to say anything bad about Mary... look who you would tick off! 😂😂😂
@sabaghebreghzabhier3382
@sabaghebreghzabhier3382 4 жыл бұрын
Kavid Dwiz Sickness
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 4 жыл бұрын
Ruben Martinez so that means she’s the mother of god the son which god and son cannot be devided are are one as is the holy spirt Mary is the mother of god
@donjon2023
@donjon2023 4 жыл бұрын
Queen of Hearts. Exactly what I tell people. But they still insist on talking down on her. I think it’s a pride thing.
@celestialogian1183
@celestialogian1183 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaviddwiz6556 No Catholic has ever called the pope that, we have, however occasionally referred to him as Vicarius Christi.
@bengoolie5197
@bengoolie5197 11 ай бұрын
Once you get the dogma of the Hypostatic Union down pat, you are 90 percent home free! The rest of the Faith will fall right into place. It sure did for me!
@marystinson
@marystinson 3 жыл бұрын
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, send now Your Spirit over the earth. Let the Holy Spirit live in the hearts of all nations, that they may be preserved from degeneration, disaster and war. May the Lady of All Nations, who once was Mary, be our Advocate. Amen."
@rachelbytheriver
@rachelbytheriver 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful talk, wayyyyyy too many ads.
@lesmen4
@lesmen4 4 жыл бұрын
also low volume
@kapurtsangma970
@kapurtsangma970 3 жыл бұрын
Father, I'm born at non Christian, so I want to know about ,I saw in the dictionary, limba, this limba for non Christian, where is it existed is??
@Fetrovsky
@Fetrovsky 3 жыл бұрын
The audio is too low.
@memee1488
@memee1488 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to watch this, but I just can't handle his shouting : / Are there any other videos links that explain what the early fathers believed about Mary?
@albertj65
@albertj65 10 ай бұрын
Oh come, let us worship and bow down; Let us kneel before the Lord our Maker. For He is our God, And we are the people of His pasture, And the sheep of His hand. For He is our God, And we are the people of His pasture, And the sheep of His hand. Psalm 95:6-7
@joannevos6321
@joannevos6321 4 жыл бұрын
And the Mother of the whole world! 😉😇
@tomlehr861
@tomlehr861 3 жыл бұрын
Not
@gabymorketchup5045
@gabymorketchup5045 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! In the family of God she is a mother for all men & women of the earth. We are not a single parent family, you have a mother who cares for you and prays for you, obtaining answers to your prayers that you have longed for.
@orthocatsr.8723
@orthocatsr.8723 Жыл бұрын
I really hope Mary and praying for purgatory is true because it's the only thing I care to return to religion about. Please pray God gives me merciful confirmation, amen
@clarencegonsalves6704
@clarencegonsalves6704 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth: How's is it that the Mother of my LORD would come to visit me? Mary: Er..my son's gonna be your future landlord someday? LOL.
@MM22272
@MM22272 Жыл бұрын
Why does he keep saying "amen" with a rising intonation? It's rather peculiar. (I only use "amen" after prayers and in holy mass.)
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 4 жыл бұрын
Discuss Mary Mother of God with your Protestant friends and if you get what Tim is saying, you will get them to admit, Mary is Theotokos OR you will find out what Christological heresy they may unknowingly hold to.
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 4 жыл бұрын
Always ask is Mary the mother of the word and the word is Jesus To protesters then they can’t say Mary is the mother of the flesh of Jesus and if the word became flesh and that word is god who’s the word that became flesh and then who’s the mother of god
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 3 жыл бұрын
TheDay Cometh god created all things noting was created that wasint created by and all things are possible do I think Mary was their from the beginning no do I belive that god had her created at the fall of man with Adam and Eve yes . See god the father has not just one person he has 3 beings father son and holy spirt so if I said to u Mary the daughter of the father the mother of son and spouse of holy spirt would u agree . If I said to u that son of god came in flesh would u agree . If I said to that 3 wise men came and worshiped god in flesh would u agree would u agree in Matthew the angel called Mary he’s mother . Would u agree if that Elizabeth called Mary the mother of my lord would u agree that lord is a name for god would u agree that god called women to who would bring forth the seed to defeat Satan would u agree that the showed women bearing male child who’s caught up to god on he’s throne who’s the only one on trone with father yes it’s father son and holy spirt so who’s the women wait let’s see what Jesus called Mary oh yeah he called her women so would u agree that god always called the mother women in geneses in the New Testament and revelations but hang on she’s only mother of flesh of Jesus u say well where in bible dos it say she’s only the mother of flesh it says ion bible quiet clear the word is god the word became flesh it didint stay spirt would u agree. Now can I ask u when Jesus rise from the dead and showed he’s hands and feet to Thomas and eat with apostles would u agree god rise in the flesh and would u agree he went to heaven in flesh and spirt together and u agree that god can’t be separated from from Jesus well my friend would u agree that the mother of that flesh that god brought to heaven with him the mother of that flesh is the women Mary . Would u agree and would u agree he’s coming back same way he went up well if u do son behold ur mother amen
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 3 жыл бұрын
TheDay Cometh but everything I said to u is in scripture give me one thing I said to u that’s not in scripture brother please
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 3 жыл бұрын
TheDay Cometh what did I give u that’s not in bible tell me brother see by u denying what I said to u u deny the word and if u deny that the flesh of Jesus is god ur not Christian because my friend the word became flesh ok listen I’m going make it simple for you here did Jesus bring the flesh he had on earth to heaven and is Jesus god in heaven and who’s mother of that flesh so if Jesus was god on earth in the flesh and went heaven in flesh and is god in flesh in heaven who’s mother of that flesh of course it’s the women who in geneses is seed and it’s her seed and in revelations who’s the male child in revelations born of women and who was born on earth let me answer its Jesus yes he’s god and my brother guess who women is well listen to Jesus he called he’s mother women letting us all no she’s the women and who’s the women it’s Mary and who’s Jesus he’s god and who’s mother of god of course it’s women
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 3 жыл бұрын
TheDay Cometh so i ask you again show me where it says she’s not the mother of god I showed u where she is
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223
@catholicdefenceandtruthsee1223 3 жыл бұрын
I did when Satan tried tempt Jesus he gave Jesus scripture did Jesus answer with verses no he told him it’s said in scripture but if u no ur bible ul see everything I say is tru I want u to look and get back to me in a few days and tell me it’s not tru see I don’t give verses I give u the truth I give u the bible not verse u seek ul find I tell u what answer me this u hate catholic’s because you think we worship right go to revelations and answer this the faithful church that’s ment be use ok why in verse 9 is god ment say ul be worshiped because he loves u and ur bible k j v was originally Catholic Church bible when it was changed to kjv 611 it had all books and did u no it was written by catholic priest check it all up but please pray read ur bible see what I said is not in it and see history I gave u is tru and reason I said all books was in it it is because all books in it means praying to dead once was in it and has been removed so just giving u all truth remember Satan uses verses we gave u book cause we’re ones who put it together
@Phishphan14009
@Phishphan14009 4 жыл бұрын
Tim ... I love your talks ... And no one minds if you plug your merchandise ... But mentioning your books and cd's every 4-6 minutes is a bit much.
@chuckHart70
@chuckHart70 4 жыл бұрын
It's a free talk so consider it an ad....and you can turn it off.
@Phishphan14009
@Phishphan14009 4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckHart70 I could turn it off, that's true ... Or I can watch the video and enjoy it, and then afterwards leave a constructive criticism on it like I did.
@verenice2656
@verenice2656 4 жыл бұрын
His book is that good ☺️
@Msc762
@Msc762 3 жыл бұрын
I’m reading the book now ...
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 Жыл бұрын
Happened to me
@SonicSnakeRecords
@SonicSnakeRecords Жыл бұрын
⚜️ Ave Maria
@helenabara2092
@helenabara2092 7 ай бұрын
Ave Maria.
@39knights
@39knights 4 жыл бұрын
To call and recognize Mary as the Mother of God does not change her humanity, nor change her nature from human to divine. It does clarify and enhance our understanding of Jesus. However to deny her title as Mother of God again changes nothing about her nature BUT completely changes our understanding of Jesus. Also by Jesus calling Her Our Mother also says something about our future as adopted children which could spawn a whole theology talk unto itself.
@ronbansgis7799
@ronbansgis7799 3 жыл бұрын
She's received a degree of bachelor of science in lifetime achievement
@9box906
@9box906 Жыл бұрын
I've been protestant all my life, never once have I thought that anyone denied Mary as the mother of God, I thought that was common knowledge maybe the CRCNA has taught better than some others?
@ronbansgis7799
@ronbansgis7799 3 жыл бұрын
She was prophesied in old testament in here comes NT she's the ark of new covenant she's lived in a extreme poverty a devoted mother with great humility and received a degree of bachelor of science in lifetime achievement in Revelation she's appear in end of the days mother Mary she's queen of the universe
@ronbansgis7799
@ronbansgis7799 3 жыл бұрын
Due to misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the Biblical history I think you need more study sad to say you need more study 😌☺️😌
@venonebihag1426
@venonebihag1426 Жыл бұрын
can you cite passages from the bible that Jesus call Mary MOTHER?
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
Are you denying that Mary conceived, carried, gave birth to, and raised Jesus?
@venonebihag1426
@venonebihag1426 Жыл бұрын
@@georgepierson4920 nope! you are because you did not know the plan and purpose of God why He chose Mary to be his instrument. being manifested in the flesh Mary is the mother of Jesus but Jesus being God Mary has no connection with Jesus. That is why you can not find a verse from the bible that Jesus call Mary mother but Woman. Sounds like an insult but if you will analyze Christ statement you find out the truth that Mary was just God's instrument to fulfill his prophecy.
@venonebihag1426
@venonebihag1426 Жыл бұрын
@@georgepierson4920 you ever learning but not able to come to the knowledge of truth how long would you live and embrace the teaching of men.
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
​@@venonebihag1426 Fundamentalists are sometimes horrified when the Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God. However, their reaction often rests upon a misapprehension not only of what this particular title of Mary signifies but also of who Jesus was-and of what their own theological forebears, the Protestant Reformers, had to say regarding this doctrine. A woman is a man’s mother either if she carried him in her womb or if she was the woman contributing half of his genetic matter or both. Mary was the mother of Jesus in both of these senses, because she not only carried Jesus in her womb but also supplied all of the genetic matter for his human body, since it was through her-not Joseph-that Jesus “was descended from David according to the flesh” (Rom. 1:3). Since Mary is Jesus’ mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism. Although Mary is the Mother of God, she is not his mother in the sense that she is older than God or the source of her Son’s divinity, for she is neither. Rather, we say that she is the Mother of God in the sense that she carried in her womb a divine person-Jesus Christ, God “in the flesh” (2 John 7, cf. John 1:14)-and in the sense that she contributed the genetic matter to the human form God took in Jesus Christ. To avoid this conclusion, Fundamentalists often assert that Mary did not carry God in her womb, but only carried Christ’s human nature. This assertion reinvents a heresy from the fifth century known as Nestorianism, which runs aground on the fact that a mother does not merely carry the human nature of her child in her womb. Rather, she carries the person of her child. Women do not give birth to human natures; they give birth to persons. Mary thus carried and gave birth to the person of Jesus Christ, and the person she gave birth to was God. The Nestorian claim that Mary did not give birth to the unified person of Jesus Christ attempts to separate Christ’s human nature from his divine nature, creating two separate and distinct persons-one divine and one human-united in a loose affiliation. It is therefore a Christological heresy, which even the Protestant Reformers recognized. Both Martin Luther and John Calvin insisted on Mary’s divine maternity. In fact, it even appears that Nestorius himself may not have believed the heresy named after him. Further, the “Nestorian” church has now signed a joint declaration on Christology with the Catholic Church and recognizes Mary’s divine maternity, just as other Christians do. Since denying that Mary is God’s mother implies doubt about Jesus’ divinity, it is clear why Christians (until recent times) have been unanimous in proclaiming Mary as Mother of God.
@wjm5972
@wjm5972 8 ай бұрын
john 19:26-27
@LayRule
@LayRule Жыл бұрын
If a kernel of wheat is buried in the ground. Would we call it an “earth plant” when it produces a body of crop. I say no, we would call it a crop of wheat. It is according to the seed, as it was in the beginning when God created things and that they would bring forth fruit according to the seed. But do we neglect the honor due to the earth which birthed it? By no means, we honor both the crop, the seed and the earth. Therefore we honor the Father, The Son, The Spirit, and the mother who birthed that firstborn and divine king Jesus Christ.
@johnflorio3052
@johnflorio3052 4 жыл бұрын
We call Mary “Mother of God” to emphasize the divinity of Jesus Christ.
@georgeibrahim7945
@georgeibrahim7945 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mister no what’s your point?
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Mister "Jesus is God, Mary is the mother of Jesus, ergo..."?
@tomlehr861
@tomlehr861 3 жыл бұрын
Still not accurate
@scooterbob4432
@scooterbob4432 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertlehnert4148 God, (Father, Son and Holy Spirit), has no beginning and no end, therefore, God never had a mother. To call Mary the "Mother of God" means that she existed before God which is utterly false doctrine. Mary was the earthly mother of Jesus when He became a man, not a God while living on this earth.
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 3 жыл бұрын
@@scooterbob4432 Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Ulrich Zwingli all disagree with you, from Sola Scriptura grounds too. The anti-Mpther of God thing was more of the 17th Century, when things like The 30 Years War and the English Civil War lead the more strident Protestants into rejecting ANYTHING Papist, including to the first Unitarian sects rejecting the Trinity and Jesus' Divinity. "Reject the Mother, and you inevitably will reject the Son"-- St Alphonse Ligouri
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 3 жыл бұрын
2 Sam 6:9. Look it up.
@MM22272
@MM22272 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes Tim yells. It would be better to moderate extreme volumes, because yelling is undesirable and distracting from his well researched and articulated commentary.
@starcityoldy
@starcityoldy 4 жыл бұрын
Sacred heart is Nestorian is it not?
@judyaugustus2321
@judyaugustus2321 2 жыл бұрын
MARY is THE DAUGHTER OF GOD THE FATHER MARY is THE MOTHER OF JESUS CHRIST MARY is THE SPOUSE OF THE HOLYSPIRIT (MARY IS THE MOTHER OF GOD)
@cletusnigints4501
@cletusnigints4501 4 жыл бұрын
Don't belittle Mary the mother of the Son of God. Her Son who is seated at the right hand side of the Almighty God will not be pleased. Mary played a very vital role in the salvation of mankind not by her own choice but by devine choice. She has certainly been rewarded by her Son who has been given dominian over all things in heaven and on earth. I wouldn't be very happy if you said that of my mother.
@georgeibrahim7945
@georgeibrahim7945 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mister so Jesus isn’t God?
@cletusnigints4501
@cletusnigints4501 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Mister Jesus is the Son of God and Mary is the mother of the Son of God. Jesus is seated at the right hand of God in heaven and will judge you. Jesus and the Father are One. Didn't you know that?
@oscarortega4422
@oscarortega4422 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Mister Is Jesus not God?
@joeydewey1640
@joeydewey1640 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this was less of an informational lecture & more of a persuasive argument. Lots of mannerisms typical of protestant preachers, lots of 'can I get an amen' etc. I was disappointed because 2/3 in I stopped watching. I wanted a history of the catholic beliefs- i.e. when & how teachings such as being born without sin, ascension into heaven, perpetual virginity etc. & how those ideas became canon. What I got was the same old early debates about use of the term 'the mother of God', framed as an argument. So I wasted a half hour not learning anything. Plus the sheer number of times he tried to sell his book was annoying as heck.
@davidl9232
@davidl9232 3 жыл бұрын
Do not steal is the founding of stability for society. With marriage being a strong 2nd. Though unlike how its portrayed, that man and woman fought off thieves outside the marriage to keep marriage intact. It's likely first marriages were likely males fought off outsiders to keep their property. But on a different note, being that religion was already established, long before Christianity ever came along. And religions were some times maintained fighting off outsiders. For example, in the U.S., often northern Catholics have an easier time being catholic, than southern Catholics. Catholics in the south experience stigma for being Catholic in places where some are very proud to be Baptists, or, evangelical, protestant. It can, to note also, only be that Mary simply reps women. Since at the time the only way for a person to be a mother was to be a woman. So woman is the mother of the son of God. Now it's supposed ly capable for males to give birth( ignoring some stories if Hinduism or other pagan stuff) . But not, to our knowledge, then.
@HeavenGuy
@HeavenGuy 3 жыл бұрын
God is not a man that He should lie.
@antonioc78
@antonioc78 3 жыл бұрын
When was Numbers written?
@unamcgurry6875
@unamcgurry6875 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@user-rj8py9ld3j
@user-rj8py9ld3j 9 ай бұрын
God Sharing His Power and Spirit: Both Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate beings, but it is because they possess the power and spirit of God that makes them as one with the Father. Jesus said, “for as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the son to have life in himself” (John 5:26). This is true for all of those who belong to God, not just Jesus. If we have the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, we will also be raised from death into life (Romans 8:11), inseparable from the Father. God does all of his work through Jesus and through those who belong to him. Without God, Jesus can do nothing (John 5:30) because it is God who doeth the works (John 14:10). Jesus is our Lord and Savior, but the Father is the only God.
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 2 жыл бұрын
The Roman church. Struggled with their dogma of original sin. So how can Mary conceive a holy baby. So they conceived of her immaculate conception and untainted with sin. Strange they not give same with Abraham wife Sara or Elizabeth mother of john the Baptist:‑whom jesus gave the highest praise, no man born of a woman was greater than he. Anyhow how can a son of God be born from another woman born in sin,by their own dogma. Jesus cant have been born from a sinful mother,like king David in sin did my mother conceive me. So they reversed it. Two nature's from whom Mary's human nature, that complicates it even more.
@salvadoralmeida7294
@salvadoralmeida7294 4 жыл бұрын
The audio is poor. Organisers of conferences should realise that tens of thousands watch KZbin and do so without the botheration of ear phones. Unfortunately their focus is only on the venue where a few hundred are gathered. You defeat the purpose of the talk, which is to have a very large audience for the message, one that goes beyond the hall. Dumb.
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 2 жыл бұрын
The Great philogist Lorenzo Valla corrected Jerome's latin vulcate ,he went by the Greek same with Erasmus. You can argue which language jesus spoke Aramaic well in the Greek 2 words for rock Petra petros one masculine one feminine, but the Aramaic scholars day its same in both cases. Hebrew different,so like the tower of Babel the confusion of languges has created a confusion of interpretation. Lastly the latin penence is wrong in Greek its repentence
@alfray1072
@alfray1072 2 жыл бұрын
The only confusion are personal opinions and protestant's errors and mistranslations. Sorry, the church does not err when it comes to its canons and official teachings. Simon (Peter) was called "Cephas" meaning rock in Aramaic. Petros is rock / boulder / stone in Greek.
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfray1072 when salt has lost its flavour it has no more use at all. These same dogma's that continue to divide not unite all,is proof that they are stuck in the past. They no different from judaiac and Islamic teachings, always repeating their prophets or church fathers. Like their ceremonies and rituals,it proves they hate change and prefer absolute obedience to a Pope or whoever. No different from political or absolutism of kings. Church and state power over us all
@alfray1072
@alfray1072 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederickanderson1860 The Catholic Church developed western civilization, I will stick to the church. There is no point of declaring a dogma if you just flip flop on your beliefs. Sorry, but communism and all of its subsets na_zism, socialism, capitalism, fascism etc etc are all zi_onist scams
@edwardlongfellow5819
@edwardlongfellow5819 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfray1072 You can hardly call Peter a rock when he crumbled in fear and denied he ever knew Jesus.
@alfray1072
@alfray1072 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardlongfellow5819 Jesus name changed Simon 's name to Peter / Cephas, that is why we call him Peter. Please respect Jesus' decision
@annmyann437
@annmyann437 2 жыл бұрын
John chapter 14 verse 6: " Jesus said to him," I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." How then can Mary intercede for you? She can't. How then do you expect her to speak to God on your behalf? She can't. To reject going through Christ, is to be against Christ. Anything that goes against Christ, has already the spirit if antichrist. Return to God, through Christ, the only way. Do it now, before it's too late for you. Oh people with hardened hearts. Oh people who are against the Word of God. Mary cannot save you. She cannot intercede for you. What is God to do with you, if you reject the only Way, He provides for you? Jesus is the only Way.
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
Satan hated Mary first.
@anthonynoronha8442
@anthonynoronha8442 Жыл бұрын
@Shawn The Sheep Jesus said come to Him directly , why do you need middlemen like saints and so many marys the catholic church has created aka Our lady of Guadolope, health. Hope, help , our lady of the Sea. Please give list of all the marys. This is satanic.
@ottozambrana66
@ottozambrana66 3 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy?
@JK-oi8ul
@JK-oi8ul Жыл бұрын
Brother Tim... your analogy is very weak man! "Jesus is God, Mary gave birth to Jesus, therefore, Mary is the mother of God." Man, Satan be blatant with his attempts to continually distort truths with subtle errors. Brother Tim.... is not the living God of heaven, earth, the seas and all that are in them... is He not eternal? Brother Tim... is Mary eternal? Brother Tim... how can a mortal being be the mother of an eternal being that was never created? Language is such a beautiful instrument to speak and articulate clear points, so let's be clear about this. Just like one cannot say, "God needs/needed..." in regards to anything, for example, one cannot say, "the Lord needed to do this and do that," in the sense that God literally was in need of something. No! We understand thru God's aseity, he needs absolutely nothing because He is sufficient within Himself! In this same manner brother Tim, instead of speaking blasphemies like "God has a mother" which would indicate He had a beginning, you need to use very clear and precise language and what you, and other Catholics, need to start speaking is a truth statement - "Mary was used by God to grow and give physical birth to Jesus into this world." Implying she is "God's mother" is speaking something different than "she gave birth to the physical Jesus (for a specific reason)," now isn't it brother Tim? Of course it is! Taking into light and understanding, the truth that God is eternal and what that means as far as His beginnings, understanding why God came in the flesh like He did and not just appearing on Earth, please, then restate how it's possible for Mary to be God's mom? If it's the title/office of "mom" Catholics are wanting to infer, then state that... again, language can be used to articulate such precision... but to imply she is the mother of God, created as we know a mother (and father) are used to create us is blasphemous. God has NO beginning! Hence why she is ALWAYS referred to in the Scriptures as Jesus' mother, NEVER God's mother. Why is this brother Tim?
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
So, you do not believe that Jesus is God because Mary is Jesus' mother.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 3 жыл бұрын
Since Satan took over the Christian congregation after the death of the apostles, any doctrine adopted after the apostles is suspect.
@Heavenlyminded2023
@Heavenlyminded2023 Жыл бұрын
😬 Joseph's "wife" was the 🕊️Holy incubator....that's all.
@CODA834
@CODA834 7 ай бұрын
yeah, and he took almost 50 minutes just to say that 🤣
@albertj65
@albertj65 10 ай бұрын
God doesn't have a mother. Just preach the word of God. People need to get saved. Jesus said, "I am the way ,the Truth, and the Life." So much time and energy is wasted on Mary theology. People need to hear the Good News of Jesus Christ. I think Mary theology is a distraction to keep people away from hearing and believing in Jesus. Jesus said, "Follow Me." Let's follow Jesus. Amen.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch Ай бұрын
If we had followed your hermanutics You wouldn't have any idea of who Christ is. His hypostatic union would have been sliced and diced. Knowing who she is Sinless Ever Virgin Theotokos And so on protects Christ's title and actions of the cross.
@jbignJesus
@jbignJesus 4 жыл бұрын
Mary was a levite
@wlg2677
@wlg2677 3 жыл бұрын
This false doctrines come down to philosophy.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 3 жыл бұрын
Roman Catholicism anachronistically reads its beliefs about Mary back into church history, adopting a christological term to use as a term to exalt Mary. Roman Catholic Marian devotion today is the result of development over time. The practice is not from New Testament/apostolic teaching. Sadly, the Roman Catholic Church does not accept correction.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 4 жыл бұрын
The early church was the Catholic Church? Oh, really? Where does the Bible make that claim?
@k11155
@k11155 3 жыл бұрын
catholic church gave us bible. catholic church exist before bible. and where is that early church now that Jesus created? you asking like where in old testament claimed that the Messiah name is Jesus. you don't know anything about the early church father's writings. study that first.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
@@k11155 If the Catholic Church gave us the Bible, isn't it strange that the Church failed to include any word about the assumption of Mary, her immaculate conception and about the efficacy of praying to her; about the veneration of relics, images and saints; about the use of holy water; about the ceremony of the mass; about a pope’s being the vicar of Christ; about monsignors, archbishops and cardinals; about purgatory; about a celibate clergy; about not eating meat on Friday or during Lent; about making novenas; about infant baptism; etc.? Is not the fact that the Bible is silent on all these outstanding points of the Catholic religion strong circumstantial evidence that the Catholic Church did not make the Bible? that it is not a Catholic book?
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
@@k11155 "You don't know anything about the early church fathers' writings. study that first." Only a foolish person would make the assumption that I know nothing about the early church fathers. However, here is something that you likely don't know. The early church fathers didn't believe in a mythical trinity. As The New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The formulation ‘One God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century…. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 14, p. 299).
@jamesm5462
@jamesm5462 3 жыл бұрын
@@cbooth151 Yeah, you can go on with more failures like it fails to describe Trinity, sola scriptura, and most impirtantly the word "Bible!" Can you find them for me?
@jamesm5462
@jamesm5462 3 жыл бұрын
@@cbooth151 Can you find the words Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, AnaBaptist, Seven Day Advent in the bible?
@tateffer
@tateffer 2 ай бұрын
It is a lie to say the early church is a catholic church. The early church is establish by the Disciple of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and they never wrote about Mary and they are the one who met with Mary and Jesus Christ half brothers. Saying Mary is the mother of God means she is also one of the trinity which is a blasphemy in itself. Mary God birth to the 100% Human Jesus Christ or as Jesus call himself the Son of Man.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch Ай бұрын
Wrong. Never wrote? Please re read the Gospel of Luke . To start
@tateffer
@tateffer Ай бұрын
@@iggyantioch There is nothing Luke write in his book about Mary. Show me the verse Luke wrote about her except in chapter one how the Angle Gabriel visit her and what he told her and chapter three which tells us about Mary genology.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch Ай бұрын
Will it make a difference if I do? Feels like you'll move on to the next complaint.
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch Ай бұрын
You talk like a Jehovah's witness. They believe the same as you. So Mary is only the mother of Christ Human nature? We never say she is divine. That is your poor understanding. Christ was made incarnate of the Virgin. You're wrong. She was mentioned very many times throughout the old and new testament. Everywhere the "Virgin" is prophecy it's Mary. Constantine?
@iggyantioch
@iggyantioch Ай бұрын
@@abd-ix5qd Lol. I just woke up And haven't had my coffee yet. Peace . Stay safe. JMJ.
@markferguson6194
@markferguson6194 3 жыл бұрын
Mary isn't the bride of Christ. The bride is both Jew and Gentile believers who love and obay Christ. This is the Catholic church which is the universal church and not to be confused with the Roman Catholic church which has some believers but is not the universal church as it claims. If u love Jesus and have a relationship with him then you ste a part of the Church and u agape love other believers first b4 u love ant political religious organization
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
When the apostate Catholic Church says Mary is the mother of God, it means Mary is the mother of Jesus, right? But, who does the Church say that God is? The Catholic Athanasian Creed says that God is three persons make up one God. As it says: "[The Father, Son, and holy spirit] are not three Gods, but *one God."* So, according to who the AC says God is, Mary is the mother of the trinity, not just the mother of Jesus. One other thing. Does the Bible says that _any_ of Jesus' first-century followers believe that Mary was the mother of God? Answer: *NO!!* So, if the Catholic Church Fathers believed Mary was the mother of God, they can't say that belief is based on the teachings of Jesus and the NT writers. The Catholic Church is a despicable institution that continues to oppose true Christianity.
@mercibeaucoup2639
@mercibeaucoup2639 3 жыл бұрын
YOU SHOULD RATHER STICK TO YOUR WATCHTOWER MASONIC THEOLOGY. GOD BLESS YOU.
@wishyouthebest9222
@wishyouthebest9222 3 жыл бұрын
Sad no one tried to refute it with arguments.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
@@wishyouthebest9222 Please explain.
@wishyouthebest9222
@wishyouthebest9222 3 жыл бұрын
@@cbooth151 I wished someone would've engaged your points.
@anthonycalipjo8669
@anthonycalipjo8669 2 жыл бұрын
@@cbooth151 i believe in the Trinity. I can explain and defend it biblically, traditionally and historically. But if you want to engage in any discussion, what do you believe. Who is God to you??? It seems you wanted to play with young Christians, so answer the question. Who is your God?? Allah or Buddha??❤️😂🤟
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
Catholics are extremely confused. When they say Mary is the mother of God, they mean she is the mother of Jesus, right? But, who do Catholics believe God is? According to the man-made Catholic Athanasian Creed, God is not one person, but THREE PERSONS. As the AC says: "[The Father, Son, and holy spirit] *are one God."* So, if God is a trinity and that Mary is the mother of God, that must mean Mary is not only the mother of Jesus, but she is also the mother of the Father and the holy spirit. But, where in the Bible does it say that Mary gave birth to a triune deity that included Jesus? Answer: NOWHERE!!
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 "But then how do you explain that an eternal being like Jesus to be the offspring of a mortal woman?" Who said the human Jesus was eternal? Eternal beings can't die. Jesus died, but was later restored to life. As Acts 2:32 says: "God raised Jesus from the dead, and we are all witnesses of this." You say the strangest things.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 "If Jesus is not eternal than any claims that Jesus is God have be abandoned." Did Jesus say he was God? Uh, NO, he didn't. Instead, he said: "I am the Son of God." (John 10:36) Jesus also said he was God's messenger. As he said to his opposers: "My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me." (John 7:16)
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 3 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 "If you then claim God is a higher being than Jesus then you dont believe in the trinity." God _is_ higher than Jesus. As Jesus said: "I am ascending to MY Father and MY God." (John 20:17) Jesus also said: "The Father is greater than I am." (John 14:28) Oh, and Heb. 2:9 says that while Jesus was human, "he was made "lower than the angels."
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 2 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 So, you don't believe in the trinity?" Let's see, according to the trinity doctrine, God is "a unity of three [persons]," which is what the word "trinity" means. So, when you said Jesus is God, you're say he's a trinity and that Mary is the mother of the trinity, which, of course, is ridiculous. I don't believe in ridiculous things. So, therefore, I don't believe in the trinity. And for that matter, neither did Jesus or his followers.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 2 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthing8 "Remember Christianity is a monotheistic religion. So there is only one God head." Catholics believe the Godhead is triune and that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are co-equal in glory and co-eternal in majesty. So, where in your Bible does it speak of a triune Godhead?
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc 4 жыл бұрын
PROTESTANT 100% believe MARY is MOTHER OF GOD/JESUS but the PROTESTANT do not worship MARY because we only worship GOD/JESUS
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc 4 жыл бұрын
@Tony in Tasmania actually PROTESTANT protes POPE in ROME who produce paper 500 years ago so our SIN CAN FORGIVE if we paid this paper because during this POPE in ROME need money
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc 4 жыл бұрын
@Tony in Tasmania only GOD/JESUS can forgive our sin but hunanbeing or father/priest cannot...
@TheRealFrank0
@TheRealFrank0 4 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc ESV - 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld. Tell me again what this was? Pretty sure it's Jesus giving authority of forgiving sins to Peter who I believe is a man. Or was I missing something?
@marke.9971
@marke.9971 3 жыл бұрын
we don't worship her either, we respected her and love her.
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc
@AntonioMarcos-qe8yc 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealFrank0 but you cannot get forgiveness by selling forgiveness on paper like pope did in Rome...that is the first reason why protestant movement going on 500 years ago
@garyholian3552
@garyholian3552 2 жыл бұрын
To elevate Mary they come up with a false doctrine to support their falce beliefs, Mary is the mother of jesus , the flesh , not the eternal God, how could Mary be mother of God who is eternal, jesus is God in the flesh one person two natures, eternal God and a flesh body which came through mary. Remember jesus never called Mary mother, he called her woman,
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
So, you believe that Mary cannot be Jesus' mother because the scriptures never show Jesus calling her his mother?
@garyholian3552
@garyholian3552 Жыл бұрын
Show me where I said that mary wasn't jesus mother , I said that mary was the mother of jesus the flesh not jesus who is eternal God, one body two natures , truly man, truly God, nowhere in scripture does it support mary being mother of God,
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
@@garyholian3552 Look up the heresy of Nestorianism because that is exactly what you Protestants believe concerning Mary.
@garyholian3552
@garyholian3552 Жыл бұрын
We believe what bible says not men , your trust is in man made religion, my trust is in God's word alone, Catholicism is a corrupt man made religion, a false gospel, leading people to destruction, perverted, false, wicked , christ jesus disciples are those who keep to His words, catholic church certainly dont , repent and turn to christ and trust in him alone for salvation,
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
@@garyholian3552 Oh, the Hypocrisy. Every Reformation and Post Reformation group was founded by some man or some woman who had a problem either with the Catholic Church or whatever Reformation or Post Reformation group they were with prior. None of you can even agree on baptism. Jesus said to listen to the Church and to the Apostles. He never said that the King James 1611 Bible was your only authority.
@hanssvineklev648
@hanssvineklev648 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Staples couldn't get away with this with an educated audience. Protestants wholly subscribe to the Nicene Creed. What does that Creed say? That Jesus was the only begotten Son of God "begotten of his Father before all worlds." In other words, we wholeheartedly believe in the Eternal Generation of the Son. (Jimmy Swaggert and Walter Martin are not exactly THE spokespersons for Protestant orthodoxy.) We also have no trouble with the term "theotokos" for Mary. It does need to be qualified (as it is qualified in the Chalcedonian Definition from the Council of Chalcedon). She is the theotokos "according to the flesh." This is Roman Catholic dogma, as well, by the way. Mary is not responsible for Christ's divine nature in any way, shape, or form. She did, however, give birth to God. Jesus himself called her his mother. There's almost no difference between Protestant christology and Catholic christology. No Protestant accepts Nestorianism. We are simply more adamant in clarifying that Mary is not the Mother of the Godhead. The fact that she can be called the Mother of God "according to the flesh" does not ascribe to her a special status in heaven beyond that of other saints. Nor does Scripture say that it does. The fact that you make her the Queen of Heaven smacks of such to us. It is an inappropriate elevation of her status. We love her enormously. We simply don't glorify her above other heroes of the faith without a biblical rationale.
@anthonynoronha8442
@anthonynoronha8442 Жыл бұрын
Catholics dont mean what they say. Mother of God is just a title to them, nothing more. The litany of the blessed virgin mary which I used to recite when I was a catholic, is a list of titles for Mary including the pagan godess title " Queen of Heaven" (Jeremiah 44). Weird, how they add titles randomly and create problems to true Christianity.
@hanssvineklev648
@hanssvineklev648 8 ай бұрын
@@anthonynoronha8442 A little education can be a dangerous thing. Staples doesn’t realize that in Latin “persona” doesn’t mean ‘person.’ It means ‘mask,’ and by way of implication “role, character,” as in “dramatis personae” which is often used as a header for the cast of characters in a stage play. So it’s more like the English word “persona.” The Greek “hypostasis” means ‘to stand under’ and refers to the reality behind the mask (prosopa). So, again we are employing the metaphor of an actor. We’re talking, in some sense, about the unity found between an actor and his role, or perhaps between an author and his characters. (Except, of course, that God’s Creation is not pretend.)
@tomlehr861
@tomlehr861 3 жыл бұрын
Mother of jesus,God is the father, another dogma to confuse believers as is the trinity
@francissweeney7318
@francissweeney7318 Жыл бұрын
Jesus never called Mary " mother. " He always called her woman. Praying to Mary is idol worship. God forbids idol worship, catholics ignore God and follow their doctrine.
@anthonynoronha8442
@anthonynoronha8442 Жыл бұрын
I am a excatholic. Catholics spend more time praying to Mary and dead people ie. Saints than to our Lord Jesus Christ.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 3 жыл бұрын
Theotokos properly rendered is bearer of God; not mother of God. God properly speaking has no mother. The human nature of Christ does have a mother. A mother preceeds the child. Nothing preceeds any member of the Trinity.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 3 жыл бұрын
The concept of Mother of God is possibly understandable if Jesus was God. He disassociated himself from any such notion. John 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith ALSO IN ME.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 3 жыл бұрын
@@tongakhan230 are you Roman Catholic?
@alfray1072
@alfray1072 2 жыл бұрын
A biological / earthly mother is a MOTHER! Because God chose to have a mother in the bubble of space and time (earth), that is why Mary is the Mother of the Lord God. Jesus means GOD SAVES or GOD THE SAVIOR in Hebrew, that is why Mary is the mother of GOD THE SAVIOR. He is also called "IMMANUEL" in the prophesy of Isaiah 7:14 meaning GOD WITH US in Hebrew, this is why Mary is the true mother of God ! God chose to have a mother in the bubble of space and time because God humbled himself to the world, men and angels. PHIL 2:6-8 ; HEB 2:9 PHILIPPIANS 2:6-8 6 Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men, and in habit found as a man. 8 He humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even to the death of the cross. HEBREWS 2:9 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour: that, through the grace of God, he might taste death for all. Jesus is God ! The Trinity is inseparable. God chose to have a mother read LUKE 1 ! Are you making Elizabeth a liar when she said that Jesus is His Lord in LUKE 1:43 when she met Mary was about to approach her ? LUKE 1:43 [ And whence is this to me, that THE MOTHER OF MY LORD should come to me? ] The Lord Jesus Christ has a mother and He is God, so the Lord God Jesus Christ has a mother. When the Lord Jesus Christ was born by Mary, He is no longer simply Jesus as God, but rather, He became Jesus as God who became Man (JOHN 1:14) or Jesus as God who was manifested in the flesh (1 TIMOTHY 3:16).
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfray1072 certainly not Mother in the sense of Mary birthing or coming before the Word i.e The Son Coeternal with the Father.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 2 жыл бұрын
Of course absolutely none of your response has anything to do with even an attempt to refute my point or Theotokos properly rendered.
@beagle5
@beagle5 2 жыл бұрын
God is eternal He has No Mother, Mary the Mother of Jesus in the Flesh ,the 3 in one is God the Father ,the Son and the Holy Spirit. To say Mother of God means God then did not exist until Mary....satan gets his worship in this idea.
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
Your understanding of the title "Mother of God" is wrong.
@aljay2955
@aljay2955 3 жыл бұрын
Mary gave birth to a human being called Jesus. She did not give birth to God. God has no beginning and no end. Once you say she gave birth to God then you can exalt Mary to Queen of Heaven, the immaculate conception, she never sinned, etc etc. Thats how Catholics get all messed up with their beliefs.
@alfray1072
@alfray1072 2 жыл бұрын
God chose to have a mother in the bubble of space and time (earth), that is why Mary is the Mother of the Lord God. Jesus means GOD SAVES or GOD THE SAVIOR in Hebrew, that is why Mary is the mother of GOD THE SAVIOR. He is also called "IMMANUEL" in the prophesy of Isaiah 7:14 meaning GOD WITH US in Hebrew, this is why Mary is the true mother of God ! God chose to have a mother in the bubble of space and time because God humbled himself to the world, men and angels. PHIL 2:6-8 ; HEB 2:9 PHILIPPIANS 2:6-8 6 Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men, and in habit found as a man. 8 He humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even to the death of the cross. HEBREWS 2:9 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour: that, through the grace of God, he might taste death for all. Jesus is God ! The Trinity is inseparable. God chose to have a mother read LUKE 1 ! Are you making Elizabeth a liar when she said that Jesus is His Lord in LUKE 1:43 when she met Mary was about to approach her ? LUKE 1:43 [ And whence is this to me, that THE MOTHER OF MY LORD should come to me? ] The Lord Jesus Christ has a mother and He is God, so the Lord God Jesus Christ has a mother. When the Lord Jesus Christ was born by Mary, He is no longer simply Jesus as God, but rather, He became Jesus as God who became Man (JOHN 1:14) or Jesus as God who was manifested in the flesh (1 TIMOTHY 3:16).
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 3 жыл бұрын
no Scripture, no early council, no one called her mother of Theos, Deos, Dios, God, Elohim, Eloi or El. Properly speaking, God has no mother. Jesus has 2 natures, and that requires language regarding Him to be very precise. Mother of God is a direct affront to Nicea 1 and Chalcedon.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 3 жыл бұрын
What a lot of nonsensical stuff. A going everywhere but getting nowhere. Sales promotional diatribe for a book no doubt.
@Merkdawgm16
@Merkdawgm16 4 жыл бұрын
This is heretical nor in scripture does it tell us Mary is the mother of God. All you have done is assume that Mary is the mother is God. Mary is only a mere woman God has chosen to give birth to Jesus and that is all. If Mary is the mother of God that makes God a liar and not self sufficient, nor his he alpha or omega. He was the first and the last! No where in scripture Mary is not part of the Godhead.
@39knights
@39knights 4 жыл бұрын
You can't use circular reasoning to say something is herectical. That defies basic logic. You must accept the Authority of the Catholic Church to accept the inspired nature of the bible. Then you use the inspired nature of the bible to deny the Authority of the Church which gives you the inspired bible!!!! Once you figure that out; then Mary as Mother of God will be easy.
@mx_moi1964
@mx_moi1964 4 жыл бұрын
The second person of the trinity, Jesus, is fully God right? And when he incarnated, he was also now fully man and was born of a mother, right? That mother was Mary, right? So since Jesus is fully God and his mother was Mary....then, our Blessed Lady, Mary, is the mother of God!
@anastasiaflynn5108
@anastasiaflynn5108 4 жыл бұрын
Luke 1:46 Mary said My heart praises the Lord, 47 my soul is glad because of God my Saviour, 48 for he has remembered me, his lowly servant! From now on all people will call me bless, 49 because of the great things the Mighty God has done for me. His name is holy,
@oscarortega4422
@oscarortega4422 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Mister I would like to see you explain why this is wrong?
@marke.9971
@marke.9971 3 жыл бұрын
may wanna watch it again and stop and think about it.
@dieselcowboy777
@dieselcowboy777 3 жыл бұрын
Catholicism is gnosticism and nicolaitains
@dieselcowboy777
@dieselcowboy777 3 жыл бұрын
@User 3115 Catholicism isn't faith.....it's a conglomeration of false interpretations of the bible that they brainwash the masses with......and they call their misinterpretations faith hogwash
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
@@dieselcowboy777 You must lie a lot.
@dieselcowboy777
@dieselcowboy777 Жыл бұрын
@@georgepierson4920 no i tell the truth alot and expose all the catholic lies
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 Жыл бұрын
@@dieselcowboy777 The early Church had already condemned the Gnostics as a heresy and was well aware of the Nicolaitans. Therefore, trying to claim that the Church is both is a lie.
@nelsoncastro1362
@nelsoncastro1362 4 жыл бұрын
Bad presentation. Goes off subject. I don’t want comedy, I want to learn about our mother. 11 plus minutes into 47 min presentation, and I haven’t heard anything of substance- was going to buy book but likely not-
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