Mary of Burgundy's advisors are executed (Maximilian)

[@1987MartinT]

An oath that you're forced to make is no oath at all.

[@johnwattdotca]

An oath you take when you just want to use the office for personal wealth, is no oath at all.

[@Itchyfeet4077]

"What are you worth without a man?" Elizabeth 1 "Hold my beer"

[@cherylmoatz2498]

Made me chuckle, 😆

[@tomb7942]

Elizabeth had lots of men who protected her and she played off one great prince against another who all wanted to marry her. Mary of Burgundy could have done the same if she was smart enough. But she waited too long and the men around her were just fed up with her. Same thing happened to Mary Queen of Scotts.

[@efrainchavez1374]

Likewise, no ones is gonna to protect the ladies which also means they all being in danger to be kidnapped and not be with their boyfriends cuz they all already executed by beheading

[@chico9805]

Elizabeth would have been nothing, without the support of the men in her court.

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

Itchyfeet4077- Ale.

[@Belinda8881]

I admire Mary of Burgundy.She had guts.She was the daughter of Charles the Bold who was considered a great prince.But at the same time I pity her.Those dreadful people were ruthless.I guess the conflict between France and Burgundy never ceased, It had been going on for quite a long time and we can see it here plainly. I know the Portuguese royal family always sided and supported Burgundy because Isabel of Avis , Charles the Bold ´s mother was Portuguese.

[@Lily1127channel]

Yeah the conflict was kinda endless in this century between them. It is also notable that it was Burgundy who captured Jeanne d'Arc (they were England's ally against France in the 100 years war) and gave her to the English to kill her.

[@Belinda8881]

@@Lily1127channel I know.Very unfortunate, indeed.Politics and war makes everything look monstrous.They were also Portugal´s allies, along with the English.

[@rose080891]

Didn't Jacquetta mother of Elizabeth woodville have a connection to Burgundy?

[@Belinda8881]

@@rose080891 I don´t know about Elizabeth Woodville´s mother connections with Burgundy but the first portuguese king´s father was from Burgundy ; Henri- 1066 - 1112, Count of Portugal, was the first member of the Capetian House of Burgundy to rule Portugal and the father of the country's first king, Afonso Henriques. He came to the Iberian peninsula to take part in the reconquest ( reconquista cristã) and married one of Alphonso VI of Leon´s daughters , Teresa Countess of Portugal. All the portuguese kings during Middle Ages are known as the the kings from the Burgundy dynasty. Burgundy dynasty ended in 1385.

[@Lily1127channel]

@@rose080891 Jaquetta was from the House of Luxembourg, not of Burgundy, so close in area but different dyansties. As far as I saw from the family lines, Jaquetta and Mary's father Charles the Bold didn't really have common ancestors so they weren't close relatives (unlike what is suggested in The White Queen.

[@MichSherl]

Poor Mary and poor advisors, that was hard to watch!

[@b.3049]

Couldn’t help but chuckle when she stole Merkle’s famous ‘Wir schaffen das’ line 😂

[@BigTimeShowdown]

Yesss hahaha

[@woodwyrm]

yep, one of the worst lines uttered in the German language since I don't know when lmao

[@publius1252]

But they did. And God bless them for it.

[@billpugh58]

Germany did well in that, 400K now working and contributing to German GDP. well done Frau Merkel!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@generalyellor8188]

Chuckle? What a ghoul you and your likers are

[@mokelembembe9606]

Going out in the city center was so entertaining back then.

[@petebondurant58]

Now, you're only likely to be groped by a migrant.

[@ronindave_ytgaming6333]

it was to die for!

[@spookrockcity]

Not a cell phone in sight. Just people living in the moment.

[@robX931]

🤣🤣 Well done.

[@howardwoolley822]

Or dying!

[@jackiepeters7424]

Everyone making the same comment on almost every post😂

[@andyroberts4387]

🥱

[@talus007]

When your neighbor hungers build longer tables, not higher walls

[@oberonyronwood5657]

Damm, that was so heartbreaking to watch 😔

[@gmpick9793]

Maximilian and his chin to the rescue

[@killermarfidyoh138]

Where can you watch this for free? no free movie websites I know of seem to not have it.

[@Kolya_Volkov]

When Charles the Bold died in 1477 his possessions naturally passed to his only child Mary of Burgundy. Her precarious position was definitely used against her to restore provincial privileges with the Great Privilege but her position as legal heir to Charles’s dominion was never questioned. As far as gender goes it does seem like female rulers had to cope with more forceful councils as the Great Privilege above shows. Women could inherit feudal lands in their own right but not always with the same political authority as their male counterparts. At any rate it wasn’t oppression but it wasn’t always true equality either

[@Dirk80241]

So this is where ‘wir schaffen dass’ comes from!

[@realhorrorshow8547]

When executing someone with a sword, you don't use a block. You need them to kneel erect so the executioner can swing the blade horizontally.

[@mitchbarredo3990]

His knees were both broken. To first have both your legs smashed then you are dragged to a chopping block and made to rest on both broken legs irl the guy would be screaming in agony the entire time.

[@mindyobiznass5852]

Sooo true!

[@rose080891]

Please tell me she gets her vengeance 😭

[@mattjames4358]

No, she fell off her horse and died

[@guysimpson8300]

Nur durch ihr hochzeit mit Maximilian bekommen sie ihre Rache.

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

@@mattjames4358 man that's bullshit

[@mattjames4358]

From Wiki: In 1482, a falcon hunt in the woods near Wijnendale Castle was organised by Adolph of Cleves, Lord of Ravenstein, who lived in the castle. Mary loved riding and was hunting with Maximilian and knights of the court when her horse tripped, threw her in a ditch, and then landed on top of her, breaking her back. She died several weeks later on 27 March from internal injuries, having made a detailed will. She was buried in the Church of Our Lady in Bruges on 3 April 1482. She was pregnant.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

She marries Maximilian Habsburg (the future Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire)... in the show that guy is executed for his part in an assassination attempt against Maximilian & the rest of the Burghers who composed the States General were forced to pay for equipping mercenaries to fight France. In history this didn't happen... the States General didn't really cause this level of problem for Mary but later after her death when Maximilian was forced to give up his regency over their son Philip being forced to return to Austria.

[@cherylmoatz2498]

Piccadilly square has gone to the dogs since the Queen's passing.

[@JackDespero]

So they are executed for kneeling to the king of France, and not being loyal to Burgundy, but then the are executed because Burgundy has oppressed the people? Very confusing scene.

[@pirobot668beta]

They were looking for someone to blame for everything...

[@Zecko19]

Gaslighting and Blameshifting prior to the internet. Classical Doublespeak which allows you to do whatever you want.

[@reaperw1532]

This is why humans should never think of themselves as gods, where human and mortal, means any human can be killed lmao

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Wtf

[@aaronleblanc9276]

At least his legs don’t hurt anymore.

[@ahmedzahir2865]

This man is crazy, wtf?

[@TheTibetyak]

Begs the question: Better to be a simple peasant of hard poverty or be of royalty and stature always looking for traitors?

[@TannhaeuserGate]

Best life: well connected emerging burgueois

[@beemillo4741]

Maybe a merchant with a small buisness i guess.

[@randomobserver8168]

"Unless you bow to France, these two will die for bowing to France." He's got that wrapped up in a neat little package, then.

[@jonathandavis2002]

Sometimes I think that when a person is executed the executor thinks nobody will miss the person that is executed

[@markpage9886]

I sincerely doubt that particular thought ever enters their mind. Easy to check though; a number of Executioners have written their memoirs.

[@TavaraTheLaughingLion]

@@markpage9886 Did they come across as psycopaths or sociopaths?

[@JohnJohnson-df5yd]

It's actually the opposite. Many executioners had to get themselves drunk before the execution so that they wouldn't feel bad and hesitate. This could also be bad for the person being executed because it could mean the executioner misses the neck and just maims the person. Also in this case the executioner was part of a group that had a personal dispute with the people being executed so I think he was happy to do it.

[@specialandroid1603]

The person might miss their head

[@cupidstunt544]

Is this Melbourne Australia ?

[@aka99]

yes, it is. its obvious.

[@luxbeci2]

Why They head cut ?

[@michaellewellyn9080]

It was very fashionable, cultural tradition

[@haggismuncher429]

Cannae beat a good old bit of entertaining cruelty from medieval times, how did we ever manage to make it till now? Anyway won't be long till we're all gone.

[@fastyaveit]

Well you're a cheerful soul aren't ya

[@TheBlueCream]

@@fastyaveit realistic

[@theophilhist6455]

Brutal clip. I'd think after getting his knees whacked being beheaded was a welcomed end.

[@nvelsen1975]

They did an excellent job of portraying the evil Habsburgs as somehow being right when they opressed the Dutch and French who demanded freedom.

[@chestersleezer8821]

Ah, old school politics had a certain flair about them.

[@singingbowels]

Not to mention that sharp tang in the air. What? That’s blood? Right!

[@quinton01]

@@singingbowels Because modern politics are so bloodless, right? Tell that to the millions of Russians that being _forced_ into a thermonuclear confrontation because Zionists, liberal warmongers and the bankers that bankroll them want to control the flow of oil into the EU and Eurasia!

[@wsde2345]

which language is?

[@Lily1127channel]

German

[@michaellewellyn9080]

Korean

[@N4MELEZ]

0:26 Angelo Merkel

[@inyourgenes]

Nothing has changed from the Medieval times.......only instead of a sword, people have "accidents" or are poisoned with Novichok or plutonium.

[@Lobocito87]

Flüchtlinge, Hilfe auf Kosten der Bürger, drohender Aufstand...sehr aktuell...

[@defenstrator4660]

And this is why common people need access to weapons. If they do not the self appointed nobility will rule.

[@carlousmagus5387]

Turn to a point, however the government does have the inherent Right to regulate weapons and ammunition, also, no Right Wing Milita is a match for US Army or Marine Infantry, but in the end the Proletariat will always rise above the Corporatocracy, the Capitalist, and the Neoliberal Elite

[@markrobinson9956]

But they know your best interests. You don't need to think or act for yourself, just let the elites tell you what to think and believe.

[@garrgravarr]

Laughably irrelevant in the 21st century though.

[@shauny2285]

Holocaust survivors said what they needed most to resist the Nazis were guns and gold.

[@chinmay4331]

LMAO. The two who were executed were not commoners. They were also members of nobility!

[@jjrj8568]

how my football career was ruined 4:05

[@andyroberts4387]

🥱

[@feedyourmind6713]

The power of the guilds.

[@leftifornian2066]

Never get in bed with the french

[@feedyourmind6713]

@@leftifornian2066 Well ....

[@Inquisitor366]

Ah verstehe ! Angela Merkel ist die Reinkarnation der Mari von Burgund ! 😂😂😂

[@paulleverton9569]

This looks pretty good. The German TV drama about the Munster Rebellion put me off German historical TV but I think I may have been a little hasty..?

[@jamieholtsclaw2305]

Yes, an accurate portrayal that rebellion and aftermath would be revolting.

[@jamesalexander5623]

Cheese actually Rebelled? .....

[@aka99]

German TV Drama about the Münster Rebillion? What is the name of the tv drama? I know about the Münster Rebillion, but i havent heared about the movie. Seems i missed somethng.

[@jands6836]

The bones of Maria were dispersed by french soldiers

[@carlosmarcial6201]

And then You see ppl in Netherlands saying that Hapsburg Phillip II was 'evil'. Before of that, Flanders was vassal of France. Lol.

[@Lily1127channel]

Yes they were the vassals of France, not because they wanted but because the House of Burgundy captured the territory and the Duke of Burgundy was historically a vassal of France. But they just wanted their independence and didn't like the House of Burgundy much. Here, France promised more independence for them.

[@Dryadkal]

I am Dutch, we got the whole Phillip II covered in our history classes for years. I think it is a misconception that the Netherlands didnt like Carlos V, as some dutchies think, but the problem with Philip II his son was, I think, an increase in taxes, centralised statereform which did not go down well with the independant provinces and cities, and the Duke of Alba/Alva, or the iron duke, who tortured and massacred protestants to oblivion. The dutch Catholics even pleaded with the governess of NL to show mercy towards the protestant brethren.. the iron duke of alba tortured and massacred dutch people, man women and children. He was not Philip but was sent by him. Make of it what you will

[@Haunterspirit]

@@Lily1127channel Flanders was vassal of France since the traity of Verdun

[@ajvanmarle]

The attitude towards Philip II is changing a bit from 'evil' to 'incompetent'. That fact that he strangled the Dutch trade while at the same time raising taxes doesn't say much for his common sense. In any case, the two countries were just too different. If the Netherlands had been grouped with the Holy Roman Empire, it might have worked, but with Spain was a bad idea from the start.

[@KK-rg1wz]

Hapsburg???😬

[@davidlaney6153]

History is brutal at times...

[@michaellewellyn9080]

So said a Ukrainian recently

[@fredengels8188]

​@@michaellewellyn9080 and the children of gaza

[@gohibniugoh1668]

Mary pulls out an AR 15 and cleans house at the end. Never bring a sword to a gunfight.

[@bigtex4058]

That's gonna leave a mark.

[@deepsleep7822]

Tis but a scratch.

[@dimitristripakis7364]

She does not seem important, if they could kick her around like this.

[@Merry19ss]

🩸La inquisición nació en Francia se fundó en 1184 en la zona de Languedoc en el sur de Francia para combatir las herejías de los cataros o albigenses. O sin olvidar la Inquisición Inglesa que asecinaba a Cristianis Catolicos ingleses y esta inquisición inglesa protestante fue llevada a las 13 colonias inglesas conocen el caso de Salem .

[@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722]

Asecinaba? Asesinaste la ortografía con esa palabra

[@MidnightDesperado66]

Well, how you like those apples.

[@AdLockhorst-bf8pz]

"wir schaffen das" ... why does that seem so familiar? Oh! Merkel had the same delusion.

[@markbelmares7138]

The common people have access to weapons hence the political violence. Access to resources, and compassionate lawmaking

[@kerrygrittner5733]

The one percent who owned slaves during the Civil War...

[@Disciple_Of_Lerxst]

Man...That guy has a bad attitude.

[@milossarkissian2606]

Guess they finally got Steve Bannon

[@caffelatte7024]

0:32 Wir schaffen das! ........muss eine Vorfahrin von Merkel gewesen sein!😅

[@josephrmancini3877]

9 pm no more video on phone

[@Massev6871]

Brutal!

[@laricachona]

Hi

[@mito88]

nicht ich!

[@ErenJaegerDidNothingWrong]

I-10, I didn’t see a head roll

[@123brownjames]

Mary of Burgundy was Richard III’s sister

[@Lily1127channel]

No. Mary of Burgundy's stepmother, Margaret of York was Richard's sister.

[@mango2005]

No that was Margaret of York, who was "of Burgundy" when she was married to Charles the Bold.

[@Crazyhorse75-u2z]

This looks like a real snoozer!

[@greatminds1017]

ngl, the show could have been better. Not that it's very bad but they underused the cast and rushed through it, especially the later episodes. It needed more fleshing out to create more impact, but I liked the acting. I would watch again just for that.

[@mralmnthwyfemnin5783]

that would ruin your day !

[@krismurphy7711]

AND GOD LOOKS DOWN....ALLOWING IT....OVER AND OVER OVER 5000 YEARS???????? TO THIS DAY?????????

[@bigglesharrumpher4139]

Yes, because there is no learning without suffering, so sitting in the afterlife doesn't grow your soul, coming to earth does.

[@krismurphy7711]

@@bigglesharrumpher4139 And what about those who are born into say radical Islam?

[@bigglesharrumpher4139]

@@krismurphy7711 No different than someone born into radical Hinduism or Christianity. From the Clinical Death survivors, Religion is not a thing in the afterlife, only on earth.

[@healypa]

Why is it in German!!!

[@Lily1127channel]

Because it is a German-Austrian-French coproduction miniseries.

[@michaellewellyn9080]

😂😂😂

[@alanmitchell7074]

Then the common people will become the self appointed nobility

[@themanfromvolantis]

Is this Vikings or The Last Kingdom?

[@Lily1127channel]

This is 'Maximilian', a German-Austrian miniseries

[@saikrishnak8631]

nah

[@miojccdm]

Louis XI 💪

[@TheRealFeechLaManna]

It was a real pleasure to see their heads roll, but the leg breaking was a bit redundant tbh

[@TD_JR]

Ya, tell that to those who were drawn and quartered. The pain, the humiliation, and the torture are part of the whole package. Breaking his knees was a message to those who bent those knees to their enemies. Public execution was about punishing the convicted as much as it was sending a message to those in attendance.

[@aardque]

@@TD_JR to be clear, this is a justice system a step or two above savagery. Like all social contrivances, it ignores the motivations for transgresion. The messages sent about breaking knees, incite rebellion as easily as submission and it's the main reason why "demonstrative punishment," has given way to "demonstrative justice," in most modern societies. Looking at Iran, recently in moral hot water for its policy of demonstrative punishments, we can easily see why. Therefore, the observation that it is over the top is likely made from that understanding.

[@richardfey5574]

Really u liked them lose their heads?

[@TD_JR]

@@richardfey5574 Do I like it? It's not a question of my preferences. It's on the books. Public beheadings were and still are a part of various *ahem* "Justice Systems" around the World. It's barbaric - like all executions but some are more "humane" and clean than other forms of Capital Punishment. It all depends on your culture and history.

[@aardque]

@@TD_JR what kind of a lying snake are you? The question most definitely was, "do you enjoy beheadings." The ONLY human answer is "No." You made the clear statement, "It was a pleasure to see the beheadings." When you were given a chance to _retract_ the message, or to explain _why_ you found pleasure in a depiction of gruesome death, you provided an unsolicited history lesson. The overriding message everyone sees, is that you enjoy depictions of gruesome death and you want to share your enjoyment with others, despite the fact you are ashamed of it.

[@BigTimeShowdown]

sexism ......

[@spotifyde5979]

wir schaffen das 😂

[@GabyHernandez-rv3vo]

😢

[@lindaabney7426]

Wow

[@dizoio21]

God ia dead

[@wrennobrien2077]

Will someone please him a hand

[@harvey1954]

Now we know where Nazis came from.

[@marskriegsgott9979]

horrible

[@JimRPickens]

I liked this series, just a good story. Left out all the "wokeness" garbage that seems to infiltrate so many films and show these days.

[@bretthess6376]

Gott Sei Danke!

[@nighthawk_2k827]

Who cares for historical accuracy and realism. Its isn’t like it would be a historical movie … wait a minute🤔

[@BAD_A_MOTHER_F]

That was cool 😎

[@1001saar]

The Clintons.

[@sonofacheron]

This scene capably demonstrates the unbearable shittiness of modern film production, especially cinematography. The faces (standing outside) glow like they’re on stage under spotlight - artificial. The colors are a muddy soup of gray green blandness - hey mom I’ve got a filter! The camera never dares to show an interesting perspective. Scene painting? Hahaha. Every aspect of the process feels perfunctory and leaden. The world is so fake and boring that the bad acting during the public mutilation has zero impact. I saw the trailer to Napoleon and looks like that is cast from the same mould 🤦🏻

[@belegarironhammer3200]

Propagandist dirt.

[@jaybaker8938]

I hate this practice of dubbing everything to add german speach. It ruins the material.

[@Lily1127channel]

Well it comes from the nature of this particular production itself. It is a German-Austrian-French coproduction. Some actors are Germanor Austrian and they speak in German, so that is not dubbed. Some are French, like the main actress, and they speak in French, and they are dubbed to German. On French tv it aired with French actors's original voices and the German actors dubbed to French. To see it without any dubbing, with the actors' original voices only, would be a bit weird because Maximilian would speak to Mary in German and Mary would answer in French without any problem.

[@daffyrose]

I thought that when I originally saw this series it actually was bilingual. The French and the Burgundians spoke French, and the Austrians spoke German. Not at all weird. Interesting and realistic.

[@Lily1127channel]

@daffyrose Yeah but Mary speaking French to Max and Max understanding it perfectly and answering in German, then Mary understanding it perfectly but answering again in French, now that was very weird imo 😄 It didn't seem realistic at all to have such a communication. Also the Flemish characters people didn't speak any Dutch or Flemish to each other in that version, just some in German, some in French, which was also weird to me (it was because the actors were either German or French). I think the realistic way would have been to shoot those scenes in a common language at least.

[@karlcarlsen9664]

@@Lily1127channel Some actors were also german. Sebastian Blomberg as Jan Coppenolle the leader of the Genter uprising is german.

[@mad_fleming]

@@Lily1127channel yeah that would be jarring. Better then to have it all French or all German.

[@alexandertach8076]

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