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With Broly being integrated into Dragon Ball Super (at least in the movie), does this mean that other movie characters could get the same treatment in same way? Could Cooler's place in Super Dragon Ball Heroes mean more than just a cameo? Today, Haverok and I discuss the common elements in DBZ movies and how they can help form the roadmap for things to come in Dragonball.
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@dinosoid2000
@dinosoid2000 6 жыл бұрын
Janemba. I love Cooler, he's my favorite movie villain, but I think Janemba is better suited for Super. Janemba would be the perfect villain, something that even the angels and Gods of Destruction couldn't ignore. I could see his reality warping powers effecting and altering the entire multiverse. It would give an excuse for characters like the Pride Troopers and Universe 6 Saiyans to get involved. Maybe connect him to the demon realm somehow. That way they can use lesser demons to act as subordinates and canon fodder for lesser and side characters to beat up. Maybe since demons aren't exactly of the multiverse they are immune to Zeno's powers making him a non factor and helping to ramp up the tension a bit. There's a lot that could be done with a character and concept like Janemba.
@denisn8336
@denisn8336 6 жыл бұрын
dinosoid2000 AMEN janemba has sooo much potential
@eduardopantoja9115
@eduardopantoja9115 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@denisn8336
@denisn8336 6 жыл бұрын
dinosoid2000 oh and make sure janemba talks an give him a badass personality like sensui from yu yu hakusho
@matthewhernandez8342
@matthewhernandez8342 6 жыл бұрын
Denis N I'm literally watching the arc where they introduce Sensui as the new villain. He's so awesome
@MrSayWhatIThink23
@MrSayWhatIThink23 6 жыл бұрын
Love the idea
@WAMTAT
@WAMTAT 6 жыл бұрын
When will MasakoX be canon?
@bulldawg863
@bulldawg863 6 жыл бұрын
alexander williams In Dragon Ball Super Z GT Kai
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat 6 жыл бұрын
BullDawg dragon ball z gt kai super heroes r&r
@alqu6375
@alqu6375 6 жыл бұрын
He's Fu. Come on, they are both DB what if fan boys who wear glasses. I can't be the only one who sees it?
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat 6 жыл бұрын
i dont think i can best that
@theamazingbonehead8421
@theamazingbonehead8421 6 жыл бұрын
In dragon ball X electric boogaloo
@JamesAReilly
@JamesAReilly 6 жыл бұрын
Broly and Paragus' colors look familiar? They're actually part of Cooler's army. Also among Cooler's ranks? Turles, whose first mission was to recruit Namek's strongest warrior who was--you guessed it!--Lord Slug. Frieza wouldn't let Cooler get a hand on his tech, so Cooler had to look elsewhere, eventually finding what he needed in Dr. Wheelo, who built Android 13 in this universe. And that's only the tip of the iceberg. This film will be the most ambitious crossover event in recent history, featuring every last DBZ movie villain! Bojack? Space pirate, Frieza's fiercest rival and Broly's first target. Janemba? Created by King Yemma to combat Golden Frieza, but ends up going rogue. Garlic Jr.? He joins the good guys and sends Broly to the Dead Zone. Hirudegarn? Why, that's where we have our romantic subplot, as his torso searches the universe for his other half. We've got a little something for everyone in DBS: Broly!
@bwill1268
@bwill1268 6 жыл бұрын
James A. Reilly honestly I would not mind if these plots happened.
@jaylerd
@jaylerd 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea about them being part of Cooler's army, but the fact is ever since Super / Resurrection F the Freeza army's armour has changed to be more squared, less rounded, and brighter colored. It's like they took Freeza's death as an opportunity to finally redesign everything.
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker 6 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Broly and Paragus working for Cooler.
@MajoraZ
@MajoraZ 6 жыл бұрын
He's not a movie character, butt I'dd like Pikkon to make a comeback
@chrishall3847
@chrishall3847 6 жыл бұрын
he was in fusion reborn so he technically is a movie character
@yoshidracos.a.1125
@yoshidracos.a.1125 6 жыл бұрын
Movie characters I want canon: Cooler, Gogeta, Bojack, Super Janemba and Hirudegarn
@thornelson1411
@thornelson1411 6 жыл бұрын
Yoshidraco S.A. they could just say the bojack movie is canon since it fits perfectly into the timeline. It's right after the cell saga and the movie even says that trunks came back to visit. It has few plot holes.
@True2ChainzLilWayne
@True2ChainzLilWayne 6 жыл бұрын
Thor Nelson It also gives a reason to Vegeta training again after the whole “I’ll never fight again” , following Cells defeat.
@ssjdarkdrakus5291
@ssjdarkdrakus5291 6 жыл бұрын
Thor Nelson yeah and same with cooler and hirudigon
@thornelson1411
@thornelson1411 6 жыл бұрын
SSGSS Drakus the 1st cooler movie but not the second one and I don't remember wrath of the dragon well enough haha
@ssjdarkdrakus5291
@ssjdarkdrakus5291 6 жыл бұрын
Thor Nelson the first movie definitely since it fits perfectly like masakox said, the second I say is crap, but best used for like a noncanon enemy in games like xenoverse, wrath of the dragon takes place after the buu saga or after Z but before super so it also fits perfectly.
@nickfell8034
@nickfell8034 6 жыл бұрын
“Frieza kills you softly” did we watch the same Namek saga? Did we see the same “Vegeta dies a horrible death to frieza”?
@callumleitch7890
@callumleitch7890 6 жыл бұрын
I think he means more is that Freeza is relaxed as he does it and he takes his time and more precise and Cooler is more aggressive and will make everything hurt
@Zack414
@Zack414 6 жыл бұрын
In Frieza's defense, Vegeta was just a grunt to him at first and he ended up taking out Frieza's top generals, destroying Frieza's hopes for immortality, and constantly taunted him with the Super Saiyan form that Frieza's race was supposed to fear (plus or minus retcons). Considering Frieza probably had it easy all his life, getting brutal on Namek was probably more of an exception than a rule for his character. Then again, I can't remember Super rn.
@nickfell8034
@nickfell8034 6 жыл бұрын
T. Isaac I wasn’t saying anything about “Frieza shouldn’t have beaten Vegeta”, I was pointing out how much more brutal Frieza was with Vegeta than Cooler was with Goku.
@Zack414
@Zack414 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't say anything about "Frieza shouldn't have beaten Vegeta" either. I was just explaining why it's possible what happened on Namek wouldn't apply to all the other times Frieza's destroyed his opponents.
@LupineShadowOmega
@LupineShadowOmega 6 жыл бұрын
Fair, because its been said many times that Frieza's polite and debonair demeanor is very much just a facade for his barbarity. It's a face he puts on. If anything it'd be fun if Cooler thinks he's childish and weak for even bothering with the facade. Indeed the sibling rivalry idea is very much a good one.
@Thag0n
@Thag0n 6 жыл бұрын
They could even make Cooler more of an anti-hero. If it is a monarchy in the Frieza Empire and Cooler isn't the ruler or in line for it, he would have to be sterile. I think there was a mention of this somewhere. If handled properly he could become a compelling character.
@Krillos
@Krillos 6 жыл бұрын
Tokie Beast Or maybe he isn’t interested in leading an empire.
@Deoxy360
@Deoxy360 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so early. There's a typo. *CHARACTES*
@shanematthews1985
@shanematthews1985 6 жыл бұрын
The typo is in the video itself aswell :P
@axlmagnus
@axlmagnus 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not a typo, it’s a feature.
@sirrealgaming6913
@sirrealgaming6913 6 жыл бұрын
hah i also see it well spotted
@rekc_bcq4816
@rekc_bcq4816 6 жыл бұрын
Deoxy360 Thank you for pointing it out. I now took a screenshot and it will be forever be remembered. I’m an a*****e aren’t I?
@EderdragonTV
@EderdragonTV 6 жыл бұрын
REEEE
@TheNexusPR
@TheNexusPR 6 жыл бұрын
MAKE COOLER CANON
@isaachanninen2020
@isaachanninen2020 6 жыл бұрын
MAKE COOLER COOL AGAIN
@TippyCraft
@TippyCraft 6 жыл бұрын
Turn it into a Hashtag.
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 6 жыл бұрын
Nexo I would like that out of the other movie villains because the first Cooler movie was one of my favorites.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 6 жыл бұрын
Explain WTF Cooler was, the whole time after Frieza and King Cold died.
@deonterector1208
@deonterector1208 6 жыл бұрын
Nexo Cooler would've been great idea because I always had in mind that their race could be from another universe that got destroyed and they could tell the reason why freeza is a product of the environment. All this time cooler was in Prison so the Galactic patrol let Cooler free due to freeza helping universe 7,Cooler comes to freezes so they could find out their race since they don't have memory of there race ...Cooler mention they could go into a nightmare dimension to see what happened to their race it and who was behind it and how freezes race lived to and go in a Dream dimension to see how their race would be living if nothing catastrophic happens.It would be something similar to the matrix where they are hooked up through technology .But they have to go to a different universe to use and find this technology.....They can't use any of the Dragon balls to see happened since beerus nor Vegita won't let them use them and they don't know where new Namek is at.
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see them adapt Cooler into the main continuity. I just hope they don't change his design too much. He looks awesome the way he is.
@altimateguyz1016
@altimateguyz1016 6 жыл бұрын
*Title* Yes, they can.... If Akira Toriyama is running out of fans and money.
@Axel_Kasai
@Axel_Kasai 6 жыл бұрын
AnimeRPGGuyz 616 *MARKETING*
@SetoShadowVT
@SetoShadowVT 6 жыл бұрын
Gogeta, Cooler, Android 13 and his Trucker hat, Turles......god Turles was SO COOL back in the day
@leirbag1595
@leirbag1595 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, even though I don't know why Turles is so appealing to me.
@SetoShadowVT
@SetoShadowVT 6 жыл бұрын
Leirbag15 It was probably cuz he was the first Evil Goku the concept excited a many for a canon evil Goku which we got sorta
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 4 жыл бұрын
@@SetoShadowVT Not only was he the first "evil Goku," but there's a lot of mystery to his backstory. Like, is he a blood relative of Goku's and how did he get the Tree of Might in the first place? Hell, even his Crusher Corps got backstories in supplementary material!
@Krillos
@Krillos 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Cooler in a different light as a villain. Something that makes Cooler a stark contrast to his younger brother, like making him into someone who fights respectfully and has a code of honor but still retain his villainous status. He could be someone who does not have any interest in leading an empire, he instead seeking new heights of power (which eventually led him to achieve his fourth transformation) and challenging worthy opponents.
@nunotorres6314
@nunotorres6314 6 жыл бұрын
J hope cooler becomes canon
@Hinokassaudifan1
@Hinokassaudifan1 6 жыл бұрын
Nuno TORRES imagine if he trains and becomes golden and masters the form. I think he'll be a worthy foe.
@truprophet9231
@truprophet9231 6 жыл бұрын
Right with ya
@Dazman172
@Dazman172 6 жыл бұрын
Same dude
@mastertucker
@mastertucker 6 жыл бұрын
He can't be. Toriyama flat out said anyone who is related to Frieza and who is ridiculously powerful and evil, other than King Cold, do not exist. And thank god, the Frieza race idea is stupid and Toriyama's idea is better.
@ImpetusOmnipotens
@ImpetusOmnipotens 6 жыл бұрын
mastertucker source?
@Krillos
@Krillos 6 жыл бұрын
God, I want Cooler to be canon. And seeing Broly getting canonized, this gives me hope to see my favorite villain return as well and in canon. I can see Cooler be easily integrated into the story thanks to his background as Frieza’s big brother and have the potential to become something great (with his fourth transformation and such).
@SpecialBeam
@SpecialBeam 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see Gogeta too. But now that Potara isn't permanent and they basically have a few Kais on speed dial.. it's looking bleak :/
@shawneastridge8180
@shawneastridge8180 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Vegeta will be even more unlikely to cooperate doing the stupid Fusion Dance than Potara Fusion.
@mustard-cup0006
@mustard-cup0006 3 жыл бұрын
I can safely say this aged like milk
@DarthFoxProductions
@DarthFoxProductions 6 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see Bojack in canon...
@jackb.207
@jackb.207 6 жыл бұрын
same
@IsuKen
@IsuKen 6 жыл бұрын
"You are now at the mercy of Lord Cooler!" "What mercy?" -blows up an unconscious Piccolo- Still one of the greatest lines from any DBZ villain ever. I loved the contrast between him and Freeza, how Freeze seemed to prefer a nuanced toy with my food attitude, while Cooler was more kill on sight and get the job done.
@macheye58
@macheye58 6 жыл бұрын
Cooler is being a main character in the dragon ball heroes anime and getting another form and also is being a dlc character for dragon ball fighterz so all that do have to mean something more then just character cameos
@alexpanos5078
@alexpanos5078 6 жыл бұрын
INDOMINUS DANNY He’s still non canon tho
@chamalotte8100
@chamalotte8100 6 жыл бұрын
Alex panos yeah but Broly too wasn't canon before... They just have to put him (or another version of him) in super to make him canon.
@alexpanos5078
@alexpanos5078 6 жыл бұрын
Chamalotte I think they should just change the brother of frieza aspect because that wouldn’t make sense
@macheye58
@macheye58 6 жыл бұрын
Alex panos well they could reboot cooler like they did with broly so they could still make cooler friezas brother and make his character better
@alexpanos5078
@alexpanos5078 6 жыл бұрын
INDOMINUS DANNY Frieza would mention him if he existed that’s why I said it wouldn’t make sense
@shocker2799
@shocker2799 5 жыл бұрын
13:26 Broly movie trailer 5. YOUR WISH HAS BEEN.... GRRAAAANTEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!
@abrakadabra6364
@abrakadabra6364 6 жыл бұрын
I would love the idea of Cooler being a good guy... or not evil?
@doot5110
@doot5110 4 жыл бұрын
The background in the Broly movie also became rocky mountains.
@borginator1493
@borginator1493 6 жыл бұрын
SSJ3 Goku only has one kill, and it isn't even canon.. :-(
@melaninsaiyangod8344
@melaninsaiyangod8344 6 жыл бұрын
Borginator Vegeta has zero kills canon or noncanon
@calebnelson58
@calebnelson58 6 жыл бұрын
He killed the entire Ginyu Force and that Android with Dr. Gero.
@melaninsaiyangod8344
@melaninsaiyangod8344 6 жыл бұрын
Caleb Nelson main villain kills
@borginator1493
@borginator1493 6 жыл бұрын
Hm, I remember back in Z when Goku was fighting KidBuu with the final spirit bomb, when the others wished Goku's power back I was like "Oh he's gonna go SSJ3 for this final push!" ... My young self was saddened it didn't happen! lol
@calebnelson58
@calebnelson58 6 жыл бұрын
Oh main villain than yeah no kills for Vegeta
@4themightyapple456
@4themightyapple456 6 жыл бұрын
I always liked the movies that fit in the best with the main time line so these are my favorite dbz movie Dead zone, cooler's revenge, broly, and wrath of the dragon and also fusion reborn even though it doesn't fit in as well
@blurredillusion
@blurredillusion 6 жыл бұрын
MOVIE CHARACTERS ARE 👍
@themrmustazz
@themrmustazz 6 жыл бұрын
I’d like Cooler, Tapion and Janemba to eventually become canon. Cooler could be the lost brother Frieza never knew existed and there could be a brotherly fight to claim the title of space emperor. Tapion could have been from the Trunks future timeline but Zeno destroyed it... The ideal Janemba could be a fallen Angel on par with Whis and the others, therefore triggering a fight that could show what angels can do.
@bwill1268
@bwill1268 6 жыл бұрын
themrmustazz fallen angel idea is cool fren
@rockstarji21
@rockstarji21 6 жыл бұрын
Dude that fallen angle thing sounds so cool I was thinking about sticking with janemba's original origins but instead of some random demon kid becoming janemba it's cell
@kogundyn6969
@kogundyn6969 3 жыл бұрын
Masako: One More Thing I'd Like To See in Super, Gogeta I know it won't happen. Toei: Laughs In DBS Broly.
@KINFIN123
@KINFIN123 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because Gogeta happened in the Broly Movie
@TheHeroExodus
@TheHeroExodus 6 жыл бұрын
if all characters have to undergo a process to make em canon like broly is, i think maybe garlic jr. with a fresh coat of paint and a backstory revamp..... and Kuriza. Garlic could take place during the tournement of power while people are offworld, he comes around lookin for Kami, finding Dende, thinking he wished himself younger or something, and could be a fun little moment for popo, yajirobe, korin and dende. Kuriza could be a poacher for Goten and Trunks, showing up to the island looking for neko majin, complaining about revenge, only to find himself making friends with gotenks. when his dad shows up in a later episode he starts to act tough again.
@minaashido5678
@minaashido5678 4 жыл бұрын
I like kuriza, he's adorable
@batguy39
@batguy39 5 жыл бұрын
13:26 Got'im It is always super weird to see old videos :v
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 6 жыл бұрын
Cooler yes, but also Super Janemba, and for another non-canon character, TOWA. Especially because this builds Pikkon and Dabura by extension. I'd love to see them again.
@milanjaszenovics5597
@milanjaszenovics5597 6 жыл бұрын
wanderlustwarrior make Xenoverse sort of canon and they can take from heroes since the demons are pretty developed there
@TheTsugnawmi2010
@TheTsugnawmi2010 6 жыл бұрын
Janemba makes the most sense to be canon. His origin can happen at any time because it's not contextual to any other characters except an absent-minded oni. Cooler being canon inherently comes with the question: "Where has he been?". Tapion comes with the question, "How did Future Trunks get his sword given the Androids were around?"
@TheTsugnawmi2010
@TheTsugnawmi2010 6 жыл бұрын
How do you know they're different? GT isn't canon and we're not talking about making Janemba canon to GT.
@TheTsugnawmi2010
@TheTsugnawmi2010 6 жыл бұрын
The wiki isn't a reliable source and at no point did I mention Hirudegarn. I'm talking about Janemba being viable
@rikowolfin4984
@rikowolfin4984 6 жыл бұрын
Explaining where Cooler was all this time is easy, he wouldn't be a brash idiot like his brother and father were and he would have gone into hiding after hearing about Super Saiyans being real. He would know how brutal saiyans tend to be so he would have waited to get more information on the one that beat his brother in the first place, and after hearing that both his brother AND father were killed on earth he would have stayed the hell away from there. If he were to come back in Super he could have been leading his own empire in some far off reaches of the galaxy avoiding any and all contact with earth, that is until Frieza comes back into the picture and shows off how much stronger his race can become just through simple training and he gets to work trying to catch up with his brothers ability. Bam, now you have a reason for Golden ( Or Diamond Cooler if you want to do a sort of nudge nudge to metal Coolers colors ) Cooler to be a thing and why he didn't come to earth even after attaining the stronger form with his 5th transformation. He may believe himself stronger than his own brother, but he wouldn't find it to be worth the trip to possible die to even stronger saiyans than before. He would only need to come into the story after the ToP seeing as Frieza is alive and ruling the universe again.
@TheTsugnawmi2010
@TheTsugnawmi2010 6 жыл бұрын
+Riko I like your idea, Riko. I wanna tweak it slightly so Cooler's scared of Beerus instead because he was put into a coma and crippled the last time the two met. It took him years to fully recover physically and mentally. He _doesn't_ have an empire anymore because he's afraid that the next planet he visits will have Beerus there. This is why no one talks about him - he's a recluse. So you have the running theme of fear between the brothers but each reacts to it differently. Freiza actively exterminated the Saiyans, but Cooler passively ran away from Beerus. This goes into the next contrast between the two - their underlings. Freiza has an army of jobbers he doesn't care about, but Cooler has his 3-man Attack Squad who he considers family because they're the only ones who waited for him to wake up, helped manned his recovery and fed him information about Freiza (this is how he'd learn about Golden Freiza). The Attack Squad would be god-tier level strong because, after his recovery, Cooler would train _with them_ as opposed to Freiza who trained alone and used his underlings as punching bags. Thus, it would have to be Gohan, Vegeta and 17 to take them out while Goku has to fight Cooler. Cooler would then unlock his 5th Form (to defeat Golden Freiza because he's bitter than Freiza usurped his empire rather than overlooking his recovery) _and_ Diamond Cooler (love your idea) to deal with Beerus himself. Cooler can even willfully use omen ultra instinct a) to mirror how Meta Cooler had Goku's transmission in the movies; b) Cooler's fear of death was a catalyst to his body instinctively dodging. He has just overcome the fear, he's weaponised it; c) because his race is proven to evolve and learn at astonishing speed so OUI would be feasible to unlock in a short time span and d) ....OUI's aura would look gorgeous on Meta Cooler.
@sodokami6347
@sodokami6347 6 жыл бұрын
I want turles to be canon
@firefly_0619
@firefly_0619 6 жыл бұрын
Nah most of the DBZ movie characters are boring but I want Tapion and Janemba to be canon
@hazzaismyname
@hazzaismyname 6 жыл бұрын
Vegito X or at least the super broly treatment. Janemba is probably my favourite movie villain on design and abilities alone
@denisn8336
@denisn8336 6 жыл бұрын
Vegito X i just want cooler
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 6 жыл бұрын
Denis N first explain where Cooler was for the 15 years during which Frieza & King Cold were dead.
@VeylmanTheRock
@VeylmanTheRock 6 жыл бұрын
YES TO GOGETA I WANT TO SEE HIM KNEE BADDIES IN THE FACE
@lostonessoul8435
@lostonessoul8435 6 жыл бұрын
8:06 ok look at that picture......you know what I see that I don't see with Freeza. I see a actual threat. With Freeza's design he didn't give off the vibe of a tyrant but cooler? SCREW TYRANT! WE HAVE DBZ DARTH VADER WITH HIS FINAL FORM!!! I'm serious about this, he FEELS more like he was supposed to be the powerful villain meant for the Freeza saga. But instead......we get Freeza.......DAM IT AKIRA!!!.....why couldn't cooler be the original villain?
@yitebluebug3346
@yitebluebug3346 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see Janemba, just to see his interactions with Buu "You me!" "Nuh-Uh! You me!" "You want pudding?" "Yeah!" "We friends now!" "Friends!"... I'm just assuming that's how it'd go...
@alvaxerox4357
@alvaxerox4357 6 жыл бұрын
The DBZ movie villain I want to be canon in the anime is Cooler. I really want him to be in the anime
@Maximus4587
@Maximus4587 6 жыл бұрын
DBZ movie characters that should be made canon: * Turles * Cooler * Bojack and the Galaxy Soldiers * Janemba * Gogeta * Tapion * Hirudegarn
@phantompheonix5577
@phantompheonix5577 5 жыл бұрын
Masankox: Oh yeah another thing I’d like to see in super ... gogeta. Yeah I know it won’t happen but that’s just my own personal want. Piccolo: You have to use the fusion dance. Fusion dance goku and vegeta: We need a name. Let’s call this gogeta. Masankox: (after his jaw fell to the floor) What the f@#$
@silver7215
@silver7215 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard rumors they’re doing remakes/reboots of the very popular movies: Broly, Fusion Reborn (Gogeta), and Bardock
@averageplayers5288
@averageplayers5288 6 жыл бұрын
“Maybe Cooler could be the good guy...?” 2 minuets later “Perhaps Cooler would be a sadist”
@MatsuyoRific
@MatsuyoRific 6 жыл бұрын
What if Tapion stuck around
@vazak11
@vazak11 6 жыл бұрын
An interesting video, though I think Cooler was much less cruel than Frieza and a lot more efficient.
@ssjdarkdrakus5291
@ssjdarkdrakus5291 6 жыл бұрын
HEY MASAKOX, I say cooler, bojack, gogeta, janemba, both tapion and hirudigon, android 13 should be canon like the new broly just give them a newer better design and bing bataboom new look, better story, more money and no argument if it should or should not or is or is not canon
@erazor251
@erazor251 6 жыл бұрын
If they keep similar stories to the movies when adapting them into canon then they can totally make a new Janemba or Tapion movie/arc. Also I think it’d be cool if there were a little storyline where the Frieda forces had a civil war on whether they should follow Frieda or Cooler
@citizenbolt5076
@citizenbolt5076 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that Android 21 gets a canon appearance. She is my favourite db character (both the good and the bad one)
@EduardoTorelly
@EduardoTorelly 6 жыл бұрын
Mayabe cooler would be a more rational leader, caring about his worlds and people and be smart enough to do not fight the saiyans directly and fight them because they are a menace to his worlds else than revenge and ego I’m not talk too much English
@lightningstorm6008
@lightningstorm6008 4 жыл бұрын
me: we have a arctic?! Broly movie: you HAD an arctic....
@ngultrum1
@ngultrum1 6 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate how adorable Cooler looks in the thumbnail with those eyes.
@speedfreakDaniel
@speedfreakDaniel 6 жыл бұрын
But why not come up with an original idea such as a member from the erased 6 universes rather than bring back old movie characters?
@a0040pc
@a0040pc 6 жыл бұрын
Here is a What If idea.... What if Vegeta used the Dragonballs to revive the Saiyan Race?
@jackb.207
@jackb.207 6 жыл бұрын
soup bro
@lloydchristian936
@lloydchristian936 6 жыл бұрын
a0040pc man the humans would become even more irrelevant.
@rockstarji21
@rockstarji21 6 жыл бұрын
No chances are if we go with canon bardock and king vegeta and not there time breaker versions they would most likely try to invade earth and get slaughtered by the z fighter
@spoontheguy5397
@spoontheguy5397 6 жыл бұрын
Vegetables...
@a0040pc
@a0040pc 6 жыл бұрын
Supposed to be Vegeta. Typo on my part and has been corrected. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
@MikeDaddy
@MikeDaddy 6 жыл бұрын
I think they should just make Bojack canon, it just fits too well to pass up
@RedCloak123
@RedCloak123 6 жыл бұрын
Movie Characters I want cannon are Bojack, Cooler , Android, Super Jamemba and Hidurguan
@RedCloak123
@RedCloak123 6 жыл бұрын
Fusion you know wat I mean XD. 13, 14, 15
@josephjoestar5157
@josephjoestar5157 6 жыл бұрын
Goku Jr. Should be *cannon*
@mysticwraith6667
@mysticwraith6667 5 жыл бұрын
Well if Cooler ever does become canon he better still have his final form appearance
@Basheerrko
@Basheerrko 6 жыл бұрын
They really should make super saiyan 4 canon just like broly because its also make a lot of money.
@tgh1489
@tgh1489 6 жыл бұрын
basheer rko exactly.
@novadragonz7357
@novadragonz7357 6 жыл бұрын
They could just use the alternate dimension time line wibbly wobbly and it'd fit 😂😂
@Kakashi-fm7ec
@Kakashi-fm7ec 6 жыл бұрын
basheer rko MARKETING.
@yoshidracos.a.1125
@yoshidracos.a.1125 6 жыл бұрын
NoVa DragonZ Nice Doctor Who joke
@Matt_Underwood
@Matt_Underwood 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah and at the same time, you all would complain about powerscaling
@celsiuskelvon6328
@celsiuskelvon6328 6 жыл бұрын
I'd really like Cooler to be Canon. I really like your ideas for Coolers Motives.
@Unforgiven11
@Unforgiven11 6 жыл бұрын
Janemba has my favorite villain design by far. I think the show could tap into more of the Demon /Devil world. I'm surprised MaKaioshin haven't been introduced in the show
@zenitha256
@zenitha256 4 жыл бұрын
It is done. Gogeta is now integrated into the dragon ball super lore.
@theuniverse6463
@theuniverse6463 3 жыл бұрын
Cooler: let me in! LET ME IIIIIIIIN! Me: let him in! LET HIM IIIIIIIIN!
@Brando_Edits
@Brando_Edits 6 жыл бұрын
Sooooooo who wants gogeta in dragon ball super broly
@darthgeist3966
@darthgeist3966 6 жыл бұрын
I have always felt that some of the Movie characters could be made to fight in the main Dragon Ball universe with a little work. Cooler could be readily added in and I feel could be used to help explore what has been going on in the greater universe since Freeza's initial death. After all, why was the army still active if both its primary leaders had been killed? Sorbet did try to keep together those loyal to Freeza, but the army was still fragmented into various groups. And I suspect Paragus had taken control of one groups to form his own faction. Now, where would Cooler fit into this? Well, if the family consisted of Cold, Freeza and Cooler, then it'd be safe to assume that their forces were divided into three sections with each of them in control of a third of the total army. When Freeza died, Sorbet tried to keep Freeza's faction together. When Cold died, Paragus may have taken over that section of the army or those splintering off from both Freeza and Cold's factions. But that still leaves Cooler and his faction of the Army. So what has he been up to this whole time? Well, with each faction fighting over power and territory, Cooler may have retreated quietly to consolidate his power and avoid diminishing his forces in needless fighting. Cooler, to me, always seemed to be the more intelligent member of his family. He shared their arrogance, but in "Revenge of Cooler", he wanted his Squadron to make absolutely certain that Goku had been killed and not leave things up to chance. Cooler wanted to be thorough and didn't want to repeat the same mistakes as the rest of his family. Unfortunately the movies didn't leave him much room to develop as a character. But if he were to be brought into Super, it could help answer some question as well as expand upon the lore and history of Freeza's race. I don't believe their entire race consists of the three of them. Just that their family had been the strongest for many centuries, so their rule had been unquestioned. But with the demise of Freeza and Cold, their families power and influence was severely diminished, which could allow for other families to rise to power during the in-fighting between the three main factions. Which is why I feel Cooler would stay out of the fighting and instead focus on keeping the other Frostdemons or Changelings in line. Though I feel their race should have a name more reflective of what Toriyama pictured Freeza as. Freeza was likened to a Loan Shark, as talked about in one of MasakoX's videos. Freeza is also a space tyrant and can breathe in space. So a name reflecting these two traits would seem more appropriate. Such as Space Shark. I am not versed in the kanji or katakana for these two words to best combine them. Maybe something like Kuusamejin (kuu frok 'Kuukan' for space and 'same' meaning shark). I feel Cooler would be more involved in the political theater behind the scenes. Rebuilding their empire quietly while the other two factions fight it out and, perhaps, building more of a trust and hierarchy among the Kuusamejin, with Cooler as Emperor and other's taking on the ranks and titles of Nobles like Greater Noble, Duke, Grand Duke, Baron and so forth. This would create a new social and political structure within the Empire and may even allow others of their race to make appearances throughout the show or even show up in other works. But things don't go as well when Freeza is revived after the Tournament of Power. While he was revived before in RoF, he didn't focus on reclaiming and rebuilding his resources. He focused on getting stronger to kill Goku. But now though, as seen at the end of Super, he was rebuilding his army and we'll see more of them in this upcoming movie. Which will pose a problem to a new Empire under Cooler's leadership.
@RobertLoyale
@RobertLoyale 6 жыл бұрын
I just want to see a super distructo disc. Maybe he fires off 4 dummy discs and 1 huge one that is meant to kill. Maybe...
@minaashido5678
@minaashido5678 4 жыл бұрын
Cooler and Salza would be so good in the anime
@blackdemonknight
@blackdemonknight 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Cooler canon but I also want him to be given the Dragonball sterotype treatment of he becomes an ally like most dragonball villians end up being maybe, mostly cause I want a Frieza race good guy, they wasted it with Frost who I had hppes for before he became a Frieza clone
@JD-hx7yd
@JD-hx7yd 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love Turles to be Canon.
@JoelGifted720
@JoelGifted720 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't he say time to make the doughnuts because he says it in xeonoverse, but I guess Team Four Star reference
@mroffice8166
@mroffice8166 6 жыл бұрын
Movie characters I want canon. 1. Gogeta 2. Gogeta 3. Gogeta 4. Gogeta 5-99. Gogeta 100. Oh I don't know... Oh yeah. *GOGETA*
@WakoDoodle
@WakoDoodle 6 жыл бұрын
As unlikely as Gogeta would be, I'd love him added for the sole reason ot explaining the difference between potara and fusion and making both of them balanced in what they other does better and worse. Imagine for example (THIS IN NOT A FACT, JUST A PERSONAL IDEA) that fusion is stronger than potara (hyporthetically) and that potara is more of all all-around well balanced fusion. Now potara is a time limit (apparently) that drops the more powerful they get. Now fusion's timer is based on both of the fused people's power. Making Fusion timer more a strength of will over a time-limit. The metamoran's (creators of the fusion dance) know of fusion far more than what goku was shown, meaning they could fuse far better than what we've seen by saiyans. Also the game *Dragonball Fusions* has bulma study and improve the fusion method into a ring to enhance it's powers; allowing not only anyone to fuse, but also a 5-way fusion. Could this mean that Fusion Dance can not only bypass the requirements of dance and equal ki; but also allow fusion beyond 2 people? We don't know, we never got chance to see! But if gogeta was canon, we'd likely see this if not more!
@zylgp
@zylgp 6 жыл бұрын
Having recently re-watched Wrath of the Dragon, Tapion seemed to be originally designed to be a way to get the Kid Trunks / Trunks interaction. Tapion's tragic backstory lines up with Trunks, the destruction, the incoming cosmic threat... it all lines. Its highlighted in the English dub with Eric Vale (the voice actor for Trunks) providing the voice for Tapion - not sure if this is true for the Japanese version though. P.S. You forgot the next best thing that should come about of this....... DRAGONFIST MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
@joshualowe1821
@joshualowe1821 6 жыл бұрын
who wants TAPION, GOGETA, BOJACK & HATCHIYACK too appear????
@GioLeTroll
@GioLeTroll 6 жыл бұрын
BUT MASAKO This video should have been called "Things that should be canon to the Anime" or something, most of it wasn't even about the characters specifically.L UNSUBSCRIBED! JK it was a great video anyway, love ya dood.
@autisticsaiyan2407
@autisticsaiyan2407 6 жыл бұрын
Characters I'd like be Canon are Turles (Rewritten), Cooler, Gogeta, Tapion, Lord Slug, & Android 13 (where's my trucker hat)
@EclipseHedgehog
@EclipseHedgehog 6 жыл бұрын
masako wondering how toriyama would write cooler isn't far off from how i'd make him a bit more interesting besides "I'M FRIEZAS BROTHER!". like maybe Cooler was the hard worker of the two and frieza was the gifted one. Maybe before Frieza was born King Cold trained him in a manner like making him suffer, to quote darth plagueis "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" and he decided to have a second son just to tick Cooler off. maybe he tried to play the good big brother but shortly after unlocking his 5th/final form he decides to cut the charade.
@JinsainYT
@JinsainYT 6 жыл бұрын
I came up with a pretty dope concept. What if Gohan, Goten, and Trunks were there a little before the time Bardock attempted to fight Freiza? Preferably before Goku was put into the escape pod. Hear me out. Goku and Vegeta are training with Whiz(Probably spelled it wrong). Whiz then tells them that they're moving on to a new training phase and ask if they can handle it. Goku is super excited and Vegeta says "Of course. Something something prince of all sayins something something something not a challenge." Goku suddenly realises that he never knew the whole all the details about Vegeta being a prince and ask about it. Vegeta's Father ends up in the conversation and Whiz joins in too.(I think he couldn't help but provide some details even Vegeta may not know about.) Then Goku starts thinking about his biological father. Goku then ask Whiz if he could go back in time to talk to his pops and, let's be honest, possibly sparr with him. (Idk if Vegeta should still be within earshot at this point because if he is then he'd want to get in on it. Don't worry though, King Vegeta isn't gonna die this time :T) This is where I'm pulling a Toriyama and making Whiz basically say "Sure. Why not." *Toriyama started it* Long story short, Bulma crafts a time machine but it's not a pod this time. I'm steal that super monkey ball design. (well I guess android 17 did that already........*whatever*) Trunk and Goten go into the lab. Gohan see them. Trunks shows Goten this dope, newly designed capsule. It has numbers on it representing the amount of time you want to jump backwards or forwards. Gohan appears directly behind them and ask what they're doing with that capsule. The two kids get startled and Trunks presses the button without realizing it. The button doubles as a start button *how convenient* and off they go!
@BlackAphro_
@BlackAphro_ 6 жыл бұрын
Akira Toriama is a genius, let me explain: Initials of the Tournament of Power is T.O.P. The stadium looks like a top. You aren't allowed to fly, because tops don't fly. (This one is kinda a stretch). AKIRA YOU ARE A GENIUS!
@IsraeliteWolfman
@IsraeliteWolfman 6 жыл бұрын
If they really want Cooler that badly they need to understand that him, Janemba and even DBZ Movie 13 were better to be integrated into DBZ and not into Super, Cooler should've been a middle-ground saga between the Future Trunks one to the Androids Saga, with Goku being able to transform at will + higher power levels for the secondary cast from both sides of the plot. Janemba could have worked after the Majin Buu Saga minus the dead Goku and Vegeta thing, and so does DBZ Movie 13. If the 2008 OVA was canonized into DBS before the retelling of Battle of Gods with Tarble being Vegeta's COUSIN I'd be happy. Edit: Abo and Cado should be IMPLIED to had been in the same tier as Recoome, Burter and Jeice to make things clearer.
@Seiginotora
@Seiginotora 6 жыл бұрын
Bojack and his crew could arguably already be canon, considering Bojack Unbound took place between the Cell Games and the Great Saiyaman Saga. I'd like to see him (and especially Zangya) show up down the road. Hell, they're already slated to show up in Super Dragon Ball Heroes (at least Bojack is), so we'll see what'll happen there.
@Chronopie
@Chronopie 6 жыл бұрын
Movie characters to make Anime Canon: Garlic Jr... Oh wait. -Goku Black- Turles Beerus was a movie character. How about Lord Slug, for Giant Namekian form? Eh. Broly could be cool. Cooler could be cooler.
@joshualowe1821
@joshualowe1821 6 жыл бұрын
Have any of you noticed in EVERY DBZ MOVIE during the MAJIN BUU TIMELINE, *PICCOLO* didn't appear!😮
@aethyrze7980
@aethyrze7980 6 жыл бұрын
I think with the older Z fighters retiring in super. (Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, And unfortunately Piccolo) they are unable to keep up. The new “S fighters” squad. (Goku, Vegeta, 17, Hit, Jiren etc.) I’d love to see them reiterate Pikkon into cannon, he could take the place as the new Piccolo.
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 6 жыл бұрын
MAKE GOGETA CANON
@HenshinAcademy
@HenshinAcademy 6 жыл бұрын
Making Cooler like early Sesshomaru? I approve. Honestly i definitely believe Bojack can work. A space pirate sealed by the kais? I'm down with that.
@thorgod0824
@thorgod0824 6 жыл бұрын
Movie charecters i want canon: Slug, Janemba, Cooler, Hirudegarn with Tapion and, ssjb gojeta
@kyotanaka920
@kyotanaka920 6 жыл бұрын
I feel that it's too late for certain characters to be made canon. For example: Cooler. The PERFECT time to make Cooler canon was the Revival of F movie/arc, either from being revived with the second wish or himself leading what's left of Frieza's army after he and his father were both killed off, then ordered a bunch of weaklings to gather the dragon balls because he can't manage the army all by himself and need his brother's naturally gifted abilities in order to keep it together. Now that Frieza's become a semi-good guy? Cooler would only appear for a few minutes before being killed off by Frieza because of the power gap. Unless you make him become a good guy too which would feel really forced and undermines his character.
@smoothoperator3739
@smoothoperator3739 6 жыл бұрын
I like these guys Rebooted:Cooler, Super 17, Omega Shenron, and Baby Vegeta. Yeah Yeah, I know I put some GT characters in. Janemba could be one of the bigger villains down the road but instead make him a Demon god.
@finalunusedname
@finalunusedname 6 жыл бұрын
I know it's not a character, but could they please make the hallucinogen-apple tree from Dead Zone canon? Canon Slug might be interesting, if only to give Piccolo something to do other than be a step-father/uncle and be okay with not being god-level strong. Video suggestion: What if Piccolo absorbed Slug, or Slug absorbed Piccolo? Also, what if Bulma 'discovered' S-cells?
@Naroketh
@Naroketh 6 жыл бұрын
I'd say a more interesting story to give Cooler (and Frieza for that matter) is a revenge ark... Trunks did kill their father. Making present trunks held responsible for "crimes" he couldn't possibly commit, could be a way to give a lot of characters a change of motivation. There's a REALLY original story there, that I WANT to see!
@justin1594
@justin1594 6 жыл бұрын
Why have great value versions of actual interesting villains? Slug, Cooler, Janemba, all just knock offs of Piccolo, Frieza, and Buu.
@Hurricanelive
@Hurricanelive 6 жыл бұрын
No. Never. Not even in retcon form. Now what if 17 (and 18) actually trained seriously for 10 years instead of morning stretches (in 17's case, and 18 just doing yoga MAYBE?) and joined the z fighters actively, while ranging and being a mom.
@Fanatic_Foremem
@Fanatic_Foremem 6 жыл бұрын
Bringing back Jamemba would give majin buu a way to be relevant again, tweak Janembas backstory to be something that threatens multiple universe and you could also have the ToP characters vs the dead villians of DBZ and Super, Ginyu force vs Pride troopers, Nappa and Radditz vs U6 saiyans.
@KegOfMeat
@KegOfMeat 6 жыл бұрын
The only villains from the films worth anything are Garlic Jr, Turles, Cooler, Broly (first film only), Bojack and Janemba.
@Kyzoren
@Kyzoren 6 жыл бұрын
I imagine the Tapion/Hirudegarn plot and definitely something Cooler related (or even just that Big Getti Star that made him "Meta") would be good for Super... But above all else, I think that Bojack should be canonized, and he could in fit perfectly too, as the mysterious villian from Jiren's past...
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 6 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on everything. I think it can be done. And just cause of the time the movies these characters were introduced in takes place. In Xenoverse 2, time is being changed through the use of movie villains, or villains from 'alternate timelines'. But when certain characters appear, people actually recognize them, like when Cooler shows up on a dying Namek, Frieza literally says "Is that you!?" Even in the DLCs that happens, like in Future Trunks's timeline Fu gives Trunks an ally, Tapion himself, and I don't know about you, but I think he knows who he is. Meanwhile, there's Gogeta. He's another story. In fact, to this day I'm convinced he's canon and has all the tools he needs to become canon if he really isn't considered already. Goku and Vegeta probably just haven't gotten around to the requiring moment to perform the fusion dance, not to mention Vegeta's unwillingness to 'move like a river' if you know what I mean.
@4StarArcadian
@4StarArcadian 6 жыл бұрын
While I'd love for Cooler to be back, I'd also like to see Turles again. I mean hey, if Broly can be brought back with a revamped origin story, why can't he? 'Was never a fan of the whole "Oh, I look like you because we're both lower-class Saiyans", especially since literally no other low-class Saiyan looked like him or Goku except for Bardock, and he gets a pass because he's literally Goku dad. Plus, the Tree of Might also has a lot of story/lore potential nowadays with all this God-stuff happening nowadays in Super, and if you're gonna bring that back you might as well reintroduce the man who brought the concept into the franchise in the first place. Oh, and Bojack would be cool too.
@malsestro20xx10
@malsestro20xx10 6 жыл бұрын
If done right and introduced correctly, then yes it can work. Instead of beating up the bad guy in all of the DBZ movies like they did, prehaps a viilain that plagues the heros for a long time. Like for example Garlic Jr, Turles, Cooler, Slug, and Bojak who can be that shadow figure that plagues the Z fighters, however I don't see that happening. Like what if Turles went to Earth in the DBZ series and not Radiz, also explained Turles origin like he is the brother of Bardock. Slug on the other hand can be from Universe 6 and an evil Mastermind like how frost was. DBS can explain where Freezas brother Cooler has been all these years, like for example King Cold had him locked away for being the white sheep of the family. In the end anything is possible.
@kpatthethird
@kpatthethird 6 жыл бұрын
“Broly is about to be added to the canon....Who would have thought of that 3 years ago?” Dude, who would have thought of that 3 MONTHS ago!!?
@cjsher90
@cjsher90 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Slug is one of my favorites. Thougg hus movie wouldn't work properly for the cannon without some huge fixes to the Ssj issue and if they added instant transmission, but kept the power scale. If Super Namek Kamicillo could surpass a ssj, why not an evil super Namekian. His smaller galaxtoc empire would explain why the Frieza force and saiyans were already aware of the Namekians without knowledge of the Dragon balls.
@fireflocs
@fireflocs 6 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see Garlic Jr get integrated. Wheelo too. As far as movie villains go, they're the most not-ripoffs-of-other-villains (once Broly's out of the way, of course).
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