Maschine+ 2? What I Want To See Next

The Maschine Plus has been around for a few years now and has seen massive improvements (no pun intended). What should come next in this product line? Let's discuss!
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[@drewnorth3816]

It might be an upopular opinion, but I'd love to see a combo of Maschine+Komplete Kontrol in a single device. As an owner of Mashine Mk3, Maschine+, Komplete Kontrol S88, S61, and M32, I definitely would still buy a combo unit.

[@DylanParisMusic]

I do wonder what that would look like form factor wise but I could be super into that. At the very least a komplete kontrol s series with internal compute power to run NI plugins as a synth would be so cool

[@HealyHQ]

Ah, something similar to the MPC Key. That would be really interesting coming from Native Instruments.

[@hvhvgitaar]

I think that’s probably a very popular opinion.

[@pierrefitch]

Does maschine + and s61 work without the need of a laptop together

[@AyeYoYoYooo]

What do you want to be more seamless between the MK3 & S88 ?

[@aloisroger2300]

I love the M+ as it is what it is, with all possibilities and limitations - and i‘m still far away to avail all the potential of this amazing Instrument. I‘d like NI to carry on updating this Standalone-Dream-Of-Mine instead of developing an exclusively expansive M+pro out of reach… because if i need the extra power, i can easily switch to controller mode anyway. Good luck to all of us!

[@DylanParisMusic]

Very fair take!

[@vincentc8692]

I agree

[@lindasson]

Love your content, and honest opinions bro, keep doing your thing!!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thanks man, back at you! The MPC X SE vids have been awesome!

[@lindasson]

@Dylan Paris Thanks bro!!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚

[@milk_bath]

Arturia plugins in stand alone would be absolutely amazing.

[@prod.bronze]

Love your channel. Thank you

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thank you for watching!

[@BoloDaProducer]

Great video!

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thanks man! Love your videos!

[@es0terra]

Hi Dylan- I’m about ready to dive into a new setup. It’s been 20 years since I had my last set up- things have changed a ton! I’m looking to get the S61 mk2 and Maschine. I prefer to use Logic Pro on my Studio M1 Max w 64 gb RAM. Anything I create on Maschine will be imported into Logic Pro. Two questions: 1. Do you think the life cycle of NI’s current hardware is nearing an end, so perhaps hold off for a few months? I’d hate to invest thousands only to find out a newer version is available. 2. Is the Maschine + plugin limited if it’s connected to a computer, or would I be better to get the Maschine MK3?

[@mrclaytron]

Oh man, I'd by a Maschine Pro "Dylan Paris edition" in a heartbeat! I love my Maschine+, but I agree with your wish list 100%. I'm doubtful we'll ever see any of this, but hey we can dream haha.

[@chriscarson6050]

Reason I didn't go for the Maschine+ (and that's the only reason) is the browsing system. Otherwise it has a better built quality than any Akai product. And the pads are way better than in any current Akai product.

[@WillieCarpenter17]

Agree with everything, although I’m gonna be bummed when one comes out and I can’t afford it, and I’d probably sell the one I have now, would be great if we could get trade in discounts because this one in some ways was a big let down despite the few updates we have received

[@DylanParisMusic]

Yeah a trade in or upgrade program would be super cool! I'm always curious how maintainable they are cause I don't see a lot of music tech companies do them, but it would be sweet!

[@mintskii]

Really interesting to listen to your thoughts in the context of yesterday's launch of Ableton Push 3... seems they've pretty much nailed every one of your hardware hopes, though still no 3rd-party plugins or VSTs. I still think I prefer the Maschine workflow, and actually the limitations of the current Plus hardware are good for forcing creativity in me so I think I'll stick with Maschine for now. Anyway, a helpful video - thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@AprilRoxStudios]

Bluetooth, mpe & touchscreen are all desired on upcoming Maschine & Kontrol releases. Sliders on Kontrol keyboards are welcomed, also.

[@DylanParisMusic]

I don’t necessarily agree on touchscreen, but everything else would be rad!

[@noahwaiwaiole7888]

Am I able to put all my expansion packs onto the the Plus and free up space on my Mac air?

[@DylanParisMusic]

If you want to use them in the software they have to be on both the plus and your computer

[@leostadt3164]

Please let me choose my chord sets! Please!!! I need this upgrade for my M+

[@goldmundbyrne7075]

Maschine+ 1.5 with Maschine 2.17.5 update, added VST3 support (for Maschine+ compatible content), a fix for Reaktor patch loading, and updates for all NI plugins. Update directly from your unit's WiFi-connected Settings page." - Thought you might want to know - don't see anyone talking about it yet! Email received 5 hours ago

[@DylanParisMusic]

Yeah I’m super curious what the actual impact will be of the VST3 thing cause I’m pretty sure it doesn’t mean third party plugin support or even more of the komplete collection being supported but I’d love to be wrong on that!

[@goldmundbyrne7075]

@@DylanParisMusic- Yes - I can’t work it out either - there are no release notes I can find; they seem to be going reeeal stealth soft launch on this one - probably waiting to check no one’s devices blow up over the next few days, before any bigger press ;) Only getting a chance to look at it now, was too busy earlier - but letting people like yourself know so we can work out more about what it means. What I’d have loved most isn’t there - a save to cloud option I could use to move between the standalone device and my mac…

[@DylanParisMusic]

Save to cloud would be rad!

[@goldmundbyrne7075]

@@DylanParisMusic Right? Terrified I’m going to corrupt my SD card every time I pull it out!

[@goldmundbyrne7075]

@@DylanParisMusic My working theory is that they’re working on a new model, at which point we’ll get a version 2.0 for the current one, and cloud support to compete with the Push 3. They must be working on an NI Cloud for all their other stuff.,..

[@chrisrios802]

which groove machine would you say you are using the most to make full songs?

[@DylanParisMusic]

For songs on my next album I believe it’s a tie between the Maschine Plus and the modern MPCs. One was made mostly on Polyend tracker and then the others are DAW based in Ableton

[@carlosgil4196]

I for one have the MK2 I am planning to upgrade for the MK3 I’ve heard hood n bad things about MK+ and this one so I’m not purchasing it unless NI comes out what you said should be MK Pro with all the good features and zero crashes

[@TeleporterM11]

Dylan when do you think they will release a new version.

[@DylanParisMusic]

I have no idea but it’s overdue in my opinion. I certainly wouldn’t buy a new one right now, not based on any insider knowledge just my gut feeling based on the Kontrol Mk3 not supporting it

[@BoombapArt]

Great vid. Sure there’s a lot of things we could wish for in terms of power, third party etc.. but they could at least fix the virtual experience like proper visualization for EQ, compressors, limiters as well as the synths.. it’s frustrating going through 16 pages of numbers

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thanks man! Your channel is awesome, I appreciate you watching my video 🙏🫡😎

[@SIXELAUDIO]

Extra Inputs and Outputs and CV is a must

[@damiensimper]

Serious question, what makes the standalone better than closing the lid to the laptop and sitting an MK3 on top?

[@DylanParisMusic]

For me personally it’s the immediacy of it, I hit power on, I’m making music. I’m not worried about a computer it’s all just about the music. There are also definitely reasons that the laptop setup would be better though! I personally would not feel comfortable putting the weight of a Maschine on a laptop, but if you are then you get more power, more plugins, and battery at the cost of more weight, and having to boot up software and manage the computer every time

[@Dilettanteworks]

The original Maschine+ should have been $800 at the outset, with the OG Mk3 being reduced to sub-$500 like it has been. An improved Maschine+ with an ARM processor, m.2 drive and 16GB of RAM should be $1200 at most, because at $1k you're already at the "I should just get a computer" threshold for a lot of people. If Valve can cram a whole gaming PC in a handheld device for $650 at its highest tier, than Native Instruments should be able to make a true standalone device for $800.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Valve is taking an L on the Deck because they get 30 percent of every game sold on steam but I feel you

[@feelmytool]

When I first got a MK3 I kept thinking, if this thing could be standalone and have the Komplete collection I’d buy it in an instant. Having so few of NI’s best stuff not on the M+ definitely hurts it and whenever that happens I’ll buy it, until than I’m fine without it.

[@InRoB-Music]

There is no need for something new!! I love mine, just make it proof as a tank! They are on the way for this, keep going! All talk like there should be something new, but no!, i spend 1000.- and i’m happy, but yeah keep my money flow in this maschine!

[@DylanParisMusic]

Valid!

[@vincentc8692]

I agree I’m fine with my M+. If they make something new, ppl will complain about the price. Can’t win for losing 😂

[@armagee]

Agree with everything! As an intensive user of maschine +, the biggest improvement would be for me to have the complete pack of sound that you find on maschine 2 on computer directly on maschine +. As a guitarist, I would love to see Guitar Rig on maschine + for example. The file transfer from maschine plus to computer is a pain, a transfer via wifi would be great. Moreover, the file management is extremely limited on maschine +, for example no possibility to delete user sample or project. I would also love a better integration with the komplete kontrol S series!

[@DylanParisMusic]

Agreed on all of these points!

[@jerzboybeats9555]

Maschine has been a big part of my production. I’m considering the plus.

[@DylanParisMusic]

The Maschine is great, the plus is awesome if you want standalone with some compromises

[@jerzboybeats9555]

@@DylanParisMusic I actually sold my MK3 and missed the workflow and got another one.

[@TeleporterM11]

I would pop a big i9 in the next unit with 16 gigs of memory or 32 gigs. The sky is the limit. Stand-alone is the new king. Hit it up with the best audio card and preamp too. The future is for the brave. I can’t wait, I am buying the next version as soon as they make it happen.

[@DylanParisMusic]

This would require massive amounts of active cooling (fans) and likely a much larger chassis to dissipate heat. I don’t see them going this route, would be better to just connect a mk3 to a computer for that level of power

[@ndguardian]

The VST support part, as much as I would love it, that's gonna be a tall order. Most NKS-compatible VSTs do not support Linux, which is what the Maschine+ runs under the hood. Don't get me wrong - I work with Linux regularly as part of my day job, and I love it, but unless there is a dramatic shift in the userbase, Linux is going to take up a minuscule slice of the userbase, and Maschine+ would be lower than that. Unless there is something that NI can do to get the Maschine standalones to fly off the shelves, or unless NI is going to subsidize much of the dev cost, it just wouldn't make much sense for the developers to put in the effort. As for one thing I would love that could be brought in via firmware - if I connect my Maschine+ to Maschine on my computer, let me sync the project directly to the desktop straight from controller mode. If I try to do something that would prevent the project from working in standalone, give me a warning but otherwise let me run with it. It just would make it a much more seamless process to go from "I have my track and now I want to bring it to the computer for further work, post production, etc.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Oh man that’s a really good point! I fully forgot they ported to Linux for the plus!

[@robmcguinness2818]

I not a Maschine user but if we are wishing for what we want, I think they should release a S series with removable modules that you can buy extra that you can just slot in to suit your needs, so for example have a 9 fader bank with endless encoder’s that could be swapped out to position it on either the left or right side of the screens and the same for a drum pad bank section or have a banks of 18 endless encoders so you could customise your keyboard and just have these different options to purchase as add on.

[@hiddenjhouls]

Guitar center for sure has a 45 day return policy, which is also how long you have before they don’t allow you to add pro coverage to whatever you buy from them.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Ah yeah it may have been that window then not sure

[@theAristocrap]

But MPC Live and One have the same hardware and the differences come from size, connectivity, battery, speaker etc.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Definitely true, I meant this more to say that people were willing to pay more for the X but it's a good point that the MPCs basically share the same hardware besides the keys 61

[@remyvegamedia]

I'd get a Maschine + for $660-$800 new. If they made another with your configuration, I'd be on it before any MPC, no question haha. I'm just going based on videos I've seen, but Maschine's process for building songs seems way more fluid.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Yeah I do find the Maschine workflow to be WAY more intuitive in general

[@remyvegamedia]

@@DylanParisMusic Honestly, the video I watched of you running it with the Komplete controller was really dope. Just seemed really fun and the results were great.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thank you! It’s a really slick setup!

[@remyvegamedia]

@@DylanParisMusic Ah, also! The ability to do time signature changes would be vital haha.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Fair!

[@manbehindthemachines4238]

If they put a M1 like processor with 16g of ram and improve the midi mapping to use external controllers it would be literally the most powerfull unit on the market for the ten next years.

[@DylanParisMusic]

That would be siiiick 🙌

[@breslin44]

How about a graphics card so that it can have a HDMI output to expand everything you can see on the screens? Then have the ability to have mouse control

[@DylanParisMusic]

That would be interesting, basically like an all in one Maschine DAW you could plug-in anywhere

[@breslin44]

@@DylanParisMusic exactly.

[@pwho405]

So how is that portable?

[@breslin44]

@@pwho405 How does that change it from being portable? What part do you not understand?

[@pwho405]

@@breslin44I was saying if the point is to be portable why would you need HDMI? That’s the part I don’t understand sounds like the ROLAND MV I use to own.

[@MatrixxSoundlab]

I'd love to at least be able to use the Play Series plugins on my Maschine+. THAT ONE THING would be game-changing when in stand-alone! The folder limitation can be bypassed by properly tagging the 3rd party sample content in the NKS format. I experimented it on a folder and it worked. I then did it with everything else!

[@DylanParisMusic]

Yeah I’m definitely not tagging my samples as I have way too many and I use them in way too many places to spend the hours it would take just to fix the NI design problem, but I agree play series would be awesome on M+!

[@MatrixxSoundlab]

@@DylanParisMusic you are ABSOLUTELY right brotha! I decided to hunker down and do mine. It took FOREVER, but it was a lifesaver when creating.! If you ever decide to, here's how you do it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGjSgaiBiptnipo

[@niellseen]

Agree , if NI made a pro version that could hold the piano lib etcetera they would beat even the big workstations , i wonder if the big companies have made some agreements to hold back so they all can make some more money out of “ limitations “ and the frustrations they cause and then just make small updated versions now and then 😊

[@DylanParisMusic]

Naw I think they made cost to performance to heat to software emulation trade offs that led to it being where it’s at performance wise. I think in the future they’ll absolutely have a lot more power

[@uploadmusic69]

I would be happy if they just added new instruments and effect updates for stand alone more consistently. Even if I had to pay for some . Also I wish the effects had some presets lol

[@DylanParisMusic]

That would be nice! I think Raum has presets but a lot of them don’t

[@uploadmusic69]

@@DylanParisMusic they should give us an Fm synth like abletons operator and the ability to import chord presets

[@DylanParisMusic]

That would be cool, even just a simpler interface for FM8 with full sound design capabilities would work too

[@thahomie773]

I don’t want too have to be plugged into an electrical outlet to operate it and it should have a built in speaker built inside like the MPC Live 2

[@DylanParisMusic]

Agreed those would be great upgrades! I’m less interested in the speaker but it would be nice to have even a small one to use if headphones aren’t around

[@paradox3470]

Wifi, Battery, more ram, better built quality, better knobs, better sampler , speaker(if they find a good way to build it in) , but yeah they should focus first on the build quality and especially the knobs because that turned me off of the machines and I ended up with a mpc. Of course everything you said is true and I hope they will hear you because you are representing many people who complain about the same problems and at the end of the day everyone wants just a standalone thats built good and has a good software and can last at least a decade

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thank you! I will say the build quality on the Plus is really nice, not sure if you've tried it but the metal knobs are very fancy. I appreciate your feedback and thoughts on what they should do next!

[@DMT_ETHR]

I just want them to fix the software itself to stop randomly crashing and saying project can’t be saved and loaded better automation as well

[@DylanParisMusic]

That’s brutal! Have you replaced the original SD card? I had issues like that when I first got mine but software updates and a new sd card solved most of them

[@jorgefrias7889]

I think they need latency compensation and latency monitoring ASAP. There's no reason in this day in age any music software does not have that capability.

[@quiddam]

Man, I've ordered one of this things and I'm currently waiting for it. I've been asking around in the NI forums because I intend to use it live and the consensus today -end of 2023- is that this thing is still unreliable as hell. It actually seems kind of apocalyptic when you ask in that forum or on reddit. people are seem to have a pretty negative view of the machine and of NI software and how randomly it just acts up. Sometimes I wonder if the people on the other side got it back when it came out and were burnt by the experience, but from these sort of attitudes I seriously doubt people would be willing to pay 2K for anything NI related.

[@DylanParisMusic]

this is a good point. while I’ve had mine for years and not had very many issues after the first year of updates cleaned up performance, it’s hard not to see the bad will and bad vibes in the community based on recent choices from NI. If they continue down this path, they’d have to launch with a nearly perfect device with no issues on day one at a fair price to win back the market (which to be fair is what basically every product should be).

[@jonathanwaywell5383]

Just royalty free samples thanks 🙏🏻

[@jacksp8de]

So basically it needs to be as good as a decent laptop. Wish they could put Apple Silicon in it or create their own version of that chip. Have to disagree with one point A battery is necessary, I have to carry a V Mount battery with me now and it’s just some extra thing I gotta bring.

[@DylanParisMusic]

A battery would be really nice!

[@jacksp8de]

@@DylanParisMusic It would be! I would take that over a touch screen and speaker.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Honestly same

[@vertigev]

OS revamp and internal battery for me

[@DylanParisMusic]

Would be dope!

[@darkuniversesound]

+1 on the Maschine Pro idea! Keep the Plus in the lineup, yep.... They should take you up on your generous suggestions 😁🤙🌌

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thank you!

[@byrdman6752]

Battery, allow you to add a ssd, play series

[@DylanParisMusic]

All good additions!

[@EricRabb]

Song mode sucks, I’d like to see mute Automation easier cut and paste in song mode.

[@Diddddu]

The play series wasn't meant for standalone. We will prob. never see it in standalone.Like the Xpand plugin.If Akai would of made a version of that for the standalone man o man.That would of been epic.Akai and NI don't have any comp.in the groove box department.And remember it's a groove box not a synth .Trust me Mr. Dylan the M.+ and Mpc is Godzilla and King Kong.Absolutely no company can make something affordable enough to compete we good.

[@Lofilegacybeats]

Maschine studio plus maschine jam plus traktor pro plus komplete plus

[@hvhvgitaar]

Full VST support is never going to happen. Maschine runs on Linux. The current M+ is pretty good but could do with XLR/TRS combo jacks so you can use professional microphones, and a bit more CPU power and memory. A “pro” version should have a disk drive slot (like the Akai Force), built in battery and speakers, with more CPU power and memory. Finally, there should be a keyboard version (think MPC key 61) of the M+. Many (most?) NI users are keyboard players and a combination of the S series keyboards and the M+ would be close to perfect.

[@DylanParisMusic]

That's a very good point! I fully spaced the Linux thing. A keys version would be awesome, I do use the Plus with the S61 a lot.

[@BubbaSatori]

Battery, speakers, nvme slot, 8 core ARM cpu, 7” touch screens, 16GB memory and access to my Komplete 14 UCE. $2,500. Maschine Pro. Insta buy.

[@dudeseriously79]

I have a house to build to live in though! Lol Man! 😂

[@trailrunningphil]

Speakers?! Just how big do you think it should be? And why have all those buttons if you have touch screens?

[@HealyHQ]

@@trailrunningphil Works fine for the MPCs. :/ Why not?

[@heffe4257]

100%

[@truechristianity74]

Reason studios allow 3rd parties to make rack extensions why not let 3rd parties make affects and instruments

[@DylanParisMusic]

That would be rad!

[@TheIncredibleDrNO]

Just give me slots so I can upgrade the RAM... Myself

[@DylanParisMusic]

That would be rad, if it’s an ARM SOC it might be part of the same chip but if they keep a separate processor that could potentially be doable

[@MUNRO13]

The UI on the Maschine screens is indeed abysmal.

[@perseus086]

I think they need to migrate to ARM based architecture and go away from intel. That will reduce the price and being more energy efficient they can add a battery. Like Apple did, go away from x86 architecture and Akai also uses that, that is why they can reduce the price

[@MyNameJeff..]

Whatever it is, there’s a big chance it will be abandoned by NI. Man… I started my music journey with this company, and it’s sad to see what they’ve become. No updates, not even to maschine software, just semi recycled sampled packs and an atrocious new logo/font. Meanwhile, my mpc live 2 is being updated all the time, can literally take it anywhere and create a full song with vocals. Hopefully NI can redeem themselves.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Yeah I would really love to see an increase in support and updates for Maschine, especially the plus! I’m glad it’s mostly stable now, but it does feel a bit behind right now

[@MyNameJeff..]

@@DylanParisMusic It’s stable, for the most part, and I give them that. But it’s abandoned. That doesn’t sit well with me, given the price of it/it being their flagship. I heard that it was a 3 year old project that got scrapped, then rushed to try to make up. Given what I read in 2017 of them nearly done with a standalone maschine, and the upheaval of the company around that time, the layoffs etc. It makes sense. It’s great, especially now that it is stable, but it definitely feels abandoned. NI’s tactics don’t sit well with me anymore.

[@binahtrading8565]

4X the power 4x the price !! this thing was not worth 1000 let alone 1400

[@mrrafsk]

We don’t need a new m+ yet. The cpu and ram are fine as long as you manage it like a grown up. What I need is having more kontakt and reaktor ports (admittedly some things would not be able to be ported, unless they are optimised), elktron style midi probability/step skipping, improved UI to edit synths, some way of un’arming midi, and better file management/midi mapping on the box. We need money spent on software not hardware development. The quality of the NI code base is the biggest strength of the company. The only gas I would want is adat, or a pressure sensitive mpe jam. (2 in 1?). Electronic musicians of the past have created masterpieces on far less powerful hardware. There a shed-loads of unsold m+’s it never made a second run, mostly due to KZbin clickBait reviewers bitching it.

[@DylanParisMusic]

I need proof of that last point lol. I agree it would be cool to see them do as much with the gen one as possible, but I do think there’s a hardware limit for NI specifically because their software is designed for more powerful computers. Akai starts with a simple machine and targets it, Ableton and NI started with full on computers and had to pare down.

[@mrrafsk]

@@DylanParisMusic true dat. If NI was not bought by an investment fund who then fired all the original developers we might of got more updates. But they fired them because sales were poor, and quarterly reports needed to show profit.

[@pwho405]

I think they should have never made the plus and I hope they let it die.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Cool

[@pwho405]

@@DylanParisMusic dang my bad I should’ve added because as a company they are stretched thin now. I been waiting/hoping on a new Studio version for a cool minute.

[@youtubevideos415]

This doesn't make any sense. Why would i want to pay ultra high prices for a Maschine with a very powerful CPU in it, when i can just plug it in my very powerful MacBook Pro? I will never travel anywhere without a computer and unless i can use the Maschine to read my Email and use Microsoft Office. So why would i spent so much Money on a powerful MacBook and then spending the same amount of money to have a powerful Maschine?

[@DylanParisMusic]

Because you can hit a power button immediately into a fullscale music production device with no distractions and all the power you could ever need. If it’s not something that interests you that’s extremely valid, but the idea no one would want it or that it doesn’t make sense is wild. It’s what people thought the Maschine plus would be, and at 2000 it would be 600 more than the plus launch price, not a huge leap and same ballpark as op 1 field and MPC X or keys 61

[@ndguardian]

I'm one of those people that would consider it, and frankly it's because I work IT. I sit in front of a full-fledged computer everyday. When I want to make music, I want to only have that in front of me. No emails, no spreadsheets, no anything like that. Just me and my music, and I like doing that with Maschine. That being said, to each their own. Maschine+ isn't for everyone, and a Pro variant like what Dylan is proposing definitely wouldn't be either. But I'd consider it a worthwhile upgrade. Not sure I would think $2k is a fantastic price...I'd say drop the price of the plus to $800-$1000 and let the pro be more like $1600-$1800. That way it is inline with a higher spec laptop + a Maschine MK3 in terms of price.

[@parismusic3590]

Sometimes when you have studio sessions you don't wanna carry your laptop even at the Parc for jaming. I do not ow a Maschine plus but I have the Live II. If Native Instrument adds battery and speakers on the device I will bye it. Standalone devices are specially good for layering, something that would take too much cpu if you do it inside the computer.

[@theAristocrap]

People pay crazy money for boutique, standalone stuff that is nothing in comparison to a regular laptop. Just check out the price of Cirklon - which is a hardware sequencer. 2 thousand dollars. For a sequencer. Pyramid (also a sequencer) is 600 euro. Those are niche things, designed for a small group of people with very specific needs and it's hard for the companies to earn money on them.

[@heffe4257]

It doesn’t make sense to you. It makes sense to a lot of us.

[@VladScala]

All that you say makes a lot of sense … let see what the future holds @NativeInstruments #Maschine+