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navy4181

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@seankorakasmusic7266
@seankorakasmusic7266 4 жыл бұрын
People are missing the point of the trip , reality is there wasn’t going to be a trip , rocky knew he was dying and the trip was something to be excited about to keep him alive longer , he would not made it to the trip or through it
@giovannipelissero1886
@giovannipelissero1886 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation.
@khazehigginz1244
@khazehigginz1244 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the movie only clips, thanks for the comment, I'm gonna find this movie its so good so far
@robertrodriguez787
@robertrodriguez787 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you have to remember he had all these Doctors telling him he wouldn't live past a certain age . But he kept proving them wrong by outliving these doctors predictions on when he would die . So he may have thought he was going to live long enough to make that trip .
@kimmyfreak200
@kimmyfreak200 3 жыл бұрын
our hopes and dreams keep us alive longer when we have something to look forward to... the trip being canceled and his girlfriends parents taking her away ended his hope and thats why he died... very sad
@finster1968
@finster1968 3 жыл бұрын
@Sean - Very insightful comment. I hadn’t really thought of that angle. It’s absolutely true that dreams give people hope and keep them going.
@johnbowman1076
@johnbowman1076 2 жыл бұрын
I traveled 7 weeks in Europe in the summer of 1982 with my best friend. 20 countries in total. I was 25 and he was 22. But a week after we got back his mom called and said he had died of an aortic aneurysm. It floored me... but at least he had that.
@Glitch-Gremlin
@Glitch-Gremlin 2 жыл бұрын
Shit, man...
@patron40silver
@patron40silver 2 жыл бұрын
You had that, too. Even more, you both had a best friend to share it with. Sorry to hear about your loss.
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
That's terrible, and I doubt any of that could have been foreseen. You both experienced it, and it was a great moment in a lifetime. I do have a question, though. To make such a trip, didn't you both have to be kind of skilled on motorcycles? And didn't it cost WAY more than $52 to get to Europe with your motorcycles, and pay for traveling and living expenses? What I'm getting at is the impossibility of this "trip" on the movie. Neither had motorcycles, or even could ride one as far as we know. And with $52 saved up, I doubt that would have covered all of the traveling and living expenses required to make that trip. Could you roughly tell us how you both had to be prepared to make it a reality? It doesn't have to be personal. Congratulations on your trip, and condolences for the loss of your friend.
@jocekhiy626
@jocekhiy626 Жыл бұрын
Awww hugs
@mattrodgers2911
@mattrodgers2911 Жыл бұрын
Probably the happiest time of his life. My condolences John.
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the most hurt he ever got. When that dream of riding Europe dried up, pretty much all the rest of his dreams appeared to, also
@MrJamieMurph4141969
@MrJamieMurph4141969 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think so. And to think Ben had sold him out ALL THAT TIME, simply because he couldn’t bring himself to tell Rocky(and thus disappoint him BIG TIME, like he’s doing RIGHT NOW!)
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJamieMurph4141969 Yep. It's always MUCH better to let someone know you can't (or won't) do something at the beginning, than having the discomfort and pain (for all parties involved) of having to come clean and tell them after a period of time. Some people are too unassertive or passive-aggresive to do that though, I guess.
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
Now how were they going to go to Europe on $52? Neither of them had motorcycles, and as far as we know couldn't even ride them. Ben was obviously hurting, and now had a chance to go make money. Rocky could have been more understanding and wished him the best, but instead of that went on a tirade tantrum and insulting Ben. Give Ben props for not reminding Rocky how impossible that trip was and not telling him what a freakazoid he looked like. 🙄 Rocky showed what a manipulative control freak jerk he was. If Ben's being around made the difference between life and death for Rocky, then he should be thanked for staying so Rocky could finish his senior year. It was Rocky who was NOT the true friend.
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
@@EphemeralProductions Really? Rocky was a manipulative control freak. Look how he reacted. Ben was having problems himself, and instead of wishing him well he went on that tirade tantrum insulting Ben. Not cool at all, and it was Rocky who wasn't a friend.
@Bob_Jones123
@Bob_Jones123 Жыл бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 For a lot of people, hope is the ONLY thing keeping them going even if that hope is a total long shot. Taking that cool trip through Europe, dating that perfect blind girl. That was all Rocky had. It can ruin someone if you pull them out of that fantasy before they are ready to face the truth for themselves and move on. It's why advice should never be offered unless asked. Even then, you need to be careful.
@dennythesavage
@dennythesavage 2 жыл бұрын
This scene always got me, because you can see Rocky’s heartbreak, and his will to live slowly go after this. And for Ben, because you can see when he walks out he knows it the end of their friendship, and it breaks his heart too. Rusty with her sadness for their friendship ending, but her telling him to just go with her eyes to leave it be. Every part of this scene was just brilliantly laid out and acted.
@tonyabrooks1719
@tonyabrooks1719 Жыл бұрын
I love that show. Everytime that on I wacht it.
@davemustaki134
@davemustaki134 9 ай бұрын
$7.50 an hour was actually really good for that time
@davemustaki134
@davemustaki134 3 ай бұрын
@TheGonzoArt I'm in Australia and saying it was good for that time lol seriously
@kemolowlow
@kemolowlow 2 ай бұрын
@@davemustaki134 Minimum wage in Australia was $2.91/hr at the time.
@davemustaki134
@davemustaki134 2 ай бұрын
@@kemolowlow yeah....
@lauraluffman6177
@lauraluffman6177 Ай бұрын
Yes it is
@mikebrady2408
@mikebrady2408 10 күн бұрын
Now days you need eight dollars. 😮
@kaoskewenvoyouma2712
@kaoskewenvoyouma2712 Жыл бұрын
Me and a good friend were planning a trip to Europe to go see some Black Metal festivals. We had everything planned out. But unfortunately He killed himself. I miss him. He was a great person.
@JTRocks1
@JTRocks1 Ай бұрын
Damn... Im so sorry about your friend, man!! 😧
@marwatson7408
@marwatson7408 4 жыл бұрын
When I see this seen in the movie I was under the impression that Rocky lost his will to live the trip to Europe was off. He didn’t have Diana in his life because of her parents. I think those were the two things he lived for he really wanted that trip.
@2jcward
@2jcward 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was because his friend would be embarrassed to be seen with him traveling around Europe, but just didn't want to say it. That's that I got from this scene.
@SurvivorBri
@SurvivorBri 3 жыл бұрын
*scene
@marwatson7408
@marwatson7408 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Vetter I just realized my mistake thank you!!!!!
@m.j.mbrooks1859
@m.j.mbrooks1859 3 жыл бұрын
I mean obviously the movie dramatized parts like those that didn’t actually happen. Diana was a made up character. In truth the real Rocky as well as this one was dying already. Doctors initially pegged him to live no longer than 7 years old. He completely defied experts by living to 16.
@veronicamamiful
@veronicamamiful 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for both of them.
@MrJamieMurph4141969
@MrJamieMurph4141969 6 жыл бұрын
Same here,you can see the tears forming in Ben's eyes after Rocky orders him out.
@selinaogorman8380
@selinaogorman8380 6 жыл бұрын
veronicamamiful I to do mostly for rocky could have been honest in the beginning plus rocky can pass on at anytime life is short.☹️
@DesireeChicago
@DesireeChicago 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Why drop out of school, when kids in 3rd world countries have to fight to get into school? Sometimes we take education for granted.
@utahsilvey5930
@utahsilvey5930 5 жыл бұрын
Why feel sorry for Ben he led rocky on he never wanted to go on the. trip rocky should have smacked him for being such a cream puff and playing with his emotions now rocky died shortly after that I bet he regrets this now for a lifetime screw that cry baby ben
@wonderwoman5732
@wonderwoman5732 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrJamieMurph4141969 I hear where you are coming from.
@dapperdonny4051
@dapperdonny4051 Жыл бұрын
Rocky's life was coming to an end. First Rocky lost contact with Diana, then Ben had to cancel the trip to Europe with Rocky. I think this was the film makers getting the audience prepared for Rock’s passing.
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Powerful movie. I remember my Mom taking us to see it in the theater and she was bawling her eyes out after it ended
@taurusfroggy
@taurusfroggy Ай бұрын
Very true
@REALWOODSMAN
@REALWOODSMAN Жыл бұрын
The power of the mid 80’s movie scene
@Ktonrider
@Ktonrider 2 жыл бұрын
This is sad because his best friend is leaving and deep down inside he knows his time is running out and there isn’t going to be another chance.
@bigdaddytrips6197
@bigdaddytrips6197 Жыл бұрын
We say a lot of things when we're young. Things like will be friends for ever , will always kick it , this and that. When we get older things change, some just move on in life , have a family , move away and you never hear from them again. It's just life .
@dillcnskii
@dillcnskii Жыл бұрын
I agree, I remember when me & my friends said we were going to move in together after highschool.. this was in 2016, fast forward to 2022 and we all aren't friends anymore. It's sad but people move on and life goes on
@bigdaddytrips6197
@bigdaddytrips6197 Жыл бұрын
@@dillcnskii I hear you man , I'm still in touch with one of my best friends, 2 of my other close friends past away and the rest just moved away . I'll always have the good memories of the good times we had and never forget them 👍
@kathrynmullaney765
@kathrynmullaney765 Жыл бұрын
Priorities change among friends. It's part of growing up.
@kitkatcats3360
@kitkatcats3360 2 ай бұрын
True, but still sad.
@Mike-gl4wt
@Mike-gl4wt Ай бұрын
Adults act like this too these days. They slowly dump friends with an excuse.
@zerobrine5226
@zerobrine5226 3 жыл бұрын
My Gawd Cher was beautiful.
@mgk0586
@mgk0586 3 жыл бұрын
She still is lol
@calumafc2702
@calumafc2702 3 жыл бұрын
Shes a plain Jane
@reecegiacalone9922
@reecegiacalone9922 3 жыл бұрын
@@calumafc2702 I disagree
@juliafloreshernandez6854
@juliafloreshernandez6854 3 жыл бұрын
She still is beautiful!
@lindagreaney5136
@lindagreaney5136 3 жыл бұрын
Always beautiful inside n out. Met her n she’s down to earth n very friendly
@MASTEROFEVIL
@MASTEROFEVIL 4 жыл бұрын
7.50 an hour back in the 1980's shit that was good money
@Madilynne-AP
@Madilynne-AP 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy because that’s minimum wage now
@annissabarclay4976
@annissabarclay4976 3 жыл бұрын
M. L Where in P.A?
@Madilynne-AP
@Madilynne-AP 3 жыл бұрын
@@annissabarclay4976 no, IN. It’s actually 7.25 I realized
@deniseriley-mccray7187
@deniseriley-mccray7187 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he means $750 which is niicceee
@ericwilliams398
@ericwilliams398 2 жыл бұрын
In Michigan, back then……Ben probably could have a house paid off in 3 years if he saved his paychecks
@selinaogorman8380
@selinaogorman8380 6 жыл бұрын
I believe Ben should have told him in the beginning it would save lots of time and effort sad Ben threw there friendship away.☹️
@DesireeChicago
@DesireeChicago 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on that one. Besides, dropping out of school is very unwise.
@MrJamieMurph4141969
@MrJamieMurph4141969 6 жыл бұрын
Amen to that one,having no high school diploma is the MAIN handicap to getting a job,even your typical low paying job working at a fast food restaraunt(as an adult and a permanent employee with benefits and all,as everyone knows.)
@selinaogorman8380
@selinaogorman8380 6 жыл бұрын
Desiree C. Exactly Desiree dropping out on Bens part wasn't a wise choice I believe he was being selfish he could have made better choices.
@selinaogorman8380
@selinaogorman8380 6 жыл бұрын
MrJamieMurph4141969 yes Ben just couldn't handle anything so he gave up on everything I believe he won't get anywhere in life with that kind of attitude feel for rocky.😒
@SalvableRuin
@SalvableRuin 4 жыл бұрын
Learn to spell
@900KING2
@900KING2 4 жыл бұрын
To ppl saying you could still do the trip. This was filmed in the 80's and happened in the 70's having grown up in both when a friend moves to a neighboring city that's a wrap. To another state. Forget it. You'll never see em again. Back then to CALL to a diff County was long distance and another state big $$$ and really all u could do is write but its about you're gonna meet new ppl and move on while never speaking. U guys will never know what its like to not have a phone in ur pocket that can give u legal advice or google those baseball cards and see what Walker was worth before u get conned. And that's why this scene can only be felt by US.
@karencostanzo2906
@karencostanzo2906 3 жыл бұрын
Rocky is staying in high school 9th grade.) Ben is talking about getting a job. Rocky is staying in childhood, Ben is growing up. Once Ben starts work, taking of months for a trip won't ever happen. Rocky knows he will only beat the odds for so long. Most people with his condition never make it into pubert, let alone reach adulthood. He is not angry about the trip. He is angry that his friend gets to grow up, and he won't. He just can't put that into words.
@NorthPhilly-zr7xc
@NorthPhilly-zr7xc 3 жыл бұрын
You deffently ain't lying about that I lost plenty of friends cuase of that
@900KING2
@900KING2 3 жыл бұрын
@@karencostanzo2906 I never thought of it that way. Youre dead on. I was about to say it myself then I read where u say rocky knew he was dying. Rocky was smarter than all others combined.
@MrSky10101
@MrSky10101 3 жыл бұрын
Powerful and true.
@Boxingbear
@Boxingbear 3 жыл бұрын
Word
@ciaraoh9102
@ciaraoh9102 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the pinnacle of the film is the graduation scene and that summer where he meets Diana. After this, his life all starts to fall apart.
@swannoir7949
@swannoir7949 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think he began loosing his Will to live after that. I believe hope is what kept him alive this long.
@MrJamieMurph4141969
@MrJamieMurph4141969 11 ай бұрын
Amen to all that.
@Ktonrider
@Ktonrider 4 жыл бұрын
Superb acting in one of the best movies ever
@ticklemypickle2456
@ticklemypickle2456 6 жыл бұрын
Him moving away doesn't mean they can't go on a trip one day.
@wangotango5447
@wangotango5447 5 жыл бұрын
Tickle my Pickle They cant go on a trip because rocky dies in like a month from then.
@blaqwhole4998
@blaqwhole4998 5 жыл бұрын
@@wangotango5447, Rocky died because his heart was broken. First with the girl and then with Ben leaving. If you notice before all that happens he seemed healthy even despite his ailments. That is because he had things to look forward to and it kept him going. After everything with the girl and Ben you can see he looked much sicker. And he died after that. So it was kinda like he felt he had nothing else to look forward to and he was hurt by how he was treated by that girl's family and the World in general and his body gave out. Chance are that if the trip had still been on then he would have probably lived a little longer.
@miyagikai617
@miyagikai617 4 жыл бұрын
@@blaqwhole4998 It is sort of like what mickey said to rocky balboa about your body dying when it no longer has nothing to live for.
@kkibela
@kkibela 4 жыл бұрын
@@miyagikai617 this is true no matter what your condition
@AGolfHitter
@AGolfHitter 3 жыл бұрын
@@wangotango5447 I know that. I meant at the time when he was alive and he saying they won't ever go.
@marksnexus
@marksnexus 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most amazing films ever made, if you have not seen it I strongly suggest doing so - RIP Rocky. ❤️
@lauraluffman6177
@lauraluffman6177 3 жыл бұрын
I love this movie
@lauraluffman6177
@lauraluffman6177 3 жыл бұрын
@80's guy agreed
@bsociety4647
@bsociety4647 3 жыл бұрын
I've been addicted to it ever since I've seen it
@clarkyboii6333
@clarkyboii6333 3 жыл бұрын
Wait did he die in the movie? Bc if so then u jus spoiled it
@lauraluffman6177
@lauraluffman6177 3 жыл бұрын
@@clarkyboii6333 Yes
@gbalo241
@gbalo241 4 жыл бұрын
poor rocky lost his only true friend he was hurt too much by it
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
That was mostly Rocky's doing. The trip was a "pie in the sky" - impossible to happen. Ben had to go on with his life. Rocky could have understood and wished him the best and go on a different plan. But instead of that he goes on a tirade tantrum insulting Ben and calling him names. So in reality, Rocky wasn't a true friend either. Give props to Ben for maintaining his cool after Rocky was calling him "stupid", and didn't remind Rocky what an impossibility the dream was and what a freakazoid he looked like.
@mebhisntatownie
@mebhisntatownie 20 күн бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 no it wasnt he can still go just not with ben
@ericmacisaac
@ericmacisaac 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how shit he felt when he got the news that Rocky died.
@Glitch-Gremlin
@Glitch-Gremlin 2 жыл бұрын
Probably happy as shit, he was terrified at the end he was gonna eat him.
@bigdaddytrips6197
@bigdaddytrips6197 Жыл бұрын
Yeah especially the way the last time they saw each other. Sad
@stephenotoole408
@stephenotoole408 Жыл бұрын
I would imagine he was hurt.
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
Why should he feel like shit? He didn't kill him. Ben had his own problems, and had to go on with his life. Rocky could have wished him the best, but instead of that he goes of on a tirade tantrum and insulted Ben. Rocky showed he was a manipulative control freak, and Rocky was the one who was not a true friend. If it's true that Ben staying around was a matter of life and death, then he should be thanked for hanging around an extra year so Rocky could graduate.
@johnbowman1076
@johnbowman1076 Жыл бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 True. Being Rocky's best friend was too big a responsibility.
@joeytrimble1558
@joeytrimble1558 Жыл бұрын
my dad had a "best friend" who he was gonna join the marines with ... dad went .. washed out within a couple weeks .. friend never even bothered too show up to the recruiter .. i think hearing stories like that made me never wanna plan shit with friends ..
@damwaterthomas1980
@damwaterthomas1980 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very sad film and truly hits the heart of reality.😢😟😢
@lfgubrs
@lfgubrs Жыл бұрын
Always felt so sorry for Ben. He really loved Rocky
@Terminatorfan-2016
@Terminatorfan-2016 Жыл бұрын
Personally I always felt Ben was a false friend. Three things he did wrong which proves that he was never a true friend to Rocky. He didn't stick up for Rocky in the carnival scene, he threw Rocky under the bus saying that he was the only one that talked about the trip in a passive-aggressive and resentful way, and lastly could have come up with a way to preserve their friendship, stay in touch, help plan ways for Rocky to see him or vice versa, and lastly, they could have easily still got on the trip, but because Ben didn't put any effort into their friendship at all, he's garbage.
@mebhisntatownie
@mebhisntatownie 5 ай бұрын
@@Terminatorfan-2016 rocky was also mean to him back he conned him out of a rube walker
@ronaldcabral7506
@ronaldcabral7506 18 күн бұрын
@@Terminatorfan-2016yea I agree and I also understand Ben not being happy needed to move but could of still went on trip
@sherriebengtson6556
@sherriebengtson6556 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely wonderful film and performances.
@FlashEarth89
@FlashEarth89 4 жыл бұрын
You can't always depend on one person who keeps their promises about a trip.
@john-paulnagel2732
@john-paulnagel2732 4 жыл бұрын
Lavern My Princess 👸 Died I take Drives along Big Sur Coast By Myself I never could take anyone but Her I Hurt
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how they were ever going to get the money - and motorcycles - to make that trip. 52 dollars wasn't going to do it.
@ARMYEEUU
@ARMYEEUU Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if all these stresses killed him quicker or any possibility he could've made it 🤔
@petergresh516
@petergresh516 2 жыл бұрын
Now this scene was a real tearjerker
@alexcaruso8766
@alexcaruso8766 5 жыл бұрын
It's not really either ones fault. Maybe Ben should have gotten the word out sooner though.
@joel8583
@joel8583 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it obviously was very difficult for him.
@antithoughtpolice7497
@antithoughtpolice7497 3 жыл бұрын
From how he tells it, it sounds like it just happened m
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
He said he had been thinking about it for a while, but sounds like he needed to be sure. He was at least a man enough to appear in person. He could have just left him a note, or nothing at all. I believe Rocky was being a control freak jerk. He could have just told Ben that he was sorry he couldn't make it, and wished him the best. But instead of that he goes on this tirade tantrum and insulting Ben. Not cool at all. So in truth, Rocky was the one who wasn't a true friend.
@rossjmacaulay307
@rossjmacaulay307 Жыл бұрын
I'm 52 and SILL waiting on my "best friend " to go backpacking around Europe from the UK ... working in vineyards etc. For bed and Food and maybe even some to put aside for "essentials" I have lost the exact itinerary for I got sick of carrying it around...just like the illusion it might happen.....
@stevenmitchell2996
@stevenmitchell2996 4 жыл бұрын
Mask, classic and great film about Rocky Dennis.... Rest in peace. I recommend Mask to anybody, good film and great performance from Cher and Eric Stoltz.
@markbauer4971
@markbauer4971 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention when the blind girls( a beautiful young Laura Dern) parents brushed him off,I believe that crushed him too.
@MrJamieMurph4141969
@MrJamieMurph4141969 6 ай бұрын
Yes, definitely.
@aerowashburns6004
@aerowashburns6004 Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite films
@JReed1985
@JReed1985 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Ben is stupid, he's selfish, then again aren't we all? At the end of the day Ben had his own goals in life, and going to Europe wasn't one of them. You can tell he hated to disappoint Rocky and knew he would be upset with him, and he tried his best to reason with him. Rocky had every reason to be upset, but overreacted and failed to see Ben's point of view. The look on Rusty's (Rocky's mother) face is her basically saying, "Yeah, Ben. It's best you just leave. You got what you wanted."
@williamsullivan7635
@williamsullivan7635 11 ай бұрын
It is also a great point made in the fact that when your young, your friendships aren't really real! Your going through so many changes, that you just want company to fit in with someone it's not real.its to bad really because when you get older,"That is when you learn, that most people, really only care about themselves"
@survivor648
@survivor648 11 ай бұрын
In high school my best friend and I were together nonstop she picked me up in the mornings, we went to lunch, we had chorus together, she drove me home after school, well mostly I went to her house. Of course we hung out most evenings. Then she graduated and we lost touch I was so depressed.
@maxshelltrack9720
@maxshelltrack9720 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure ben could've came and visited once in a while.
@mikep6399
@mikep6399 Жыл бұрын
true he may mention that or aaky Rocky come vist him sometimes but rocky blew up at him
@joe77njcp
@joe77njcp 5 жыл бұрын
Ben is the last American virgin
@selenacole2760
@selenacole2760 5 жыл бұрын
Yep😎 Gary and his pizza delivery truck!
@spikemiller3044
@spikemiller3044 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that was another good movie
@souviksen7497
@souviksen7497 4 жыл бұрын
the other actor played the lead in "The Last American Virgin"- 1982
@NorthPhilly-zr7xc
@NorthPhilly-zr7xc 4 жыл бұрын
That's my movie she did him wrong
@cobraalaniz149
@cobraalaniz149 3 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with both movies I was born in the mid-80s
@giantleprechaun2350
@giantleprechaun2350 3 жыл бұрын
And Friday the 13th part 4 the final chapter
@bigislander72
@bigislander72 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know when he looks sadder, the end if this scene or LAV.. it's a tie!
@caj1119
@caj1119 4 жыл бұрын
Boy can I relate. Had a friend who pulled the same crap on a trip we planned after graduating college. You can imagine how I felt. We aren't totally estranged from each other but we haven't had a real conversation in about 25 years. It taught me something of a lesson though and as a result the only trips I've taken with people who aren't immediate family members are relatively short, uncomplicated two or three-night jaunts a few hours' drive away.
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 4 жыл бұрын
Was your reaction similar to Rocky's?
@caj1119
@caj1119 4 жыл бұрын
@@Guamparrapo83 Well, kind of. I was really pissed off, especially since he proposed the trip in the first place. I didn't call him stupid though.
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 4 жыл бұрын
@@caj1119 He proposed it? That sucks man. I'm sorry for you. Was it you who didn't want to talk to him again?
@caj1119
@caj1119 4 жыл бұрын
@@Guamparrapo83 I didn't want to speak to him, and haven't had much of a real conversation with him since then. We are connected on Facebook now though, that's about it. It's fine though, it was a long time ago, I moved on with my life, it's just that this particular scene brought memories of it flooding back. But I learned from it and know what to expect from people in general, even if they are close friends.
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 4 жыл бұрын
@@caj1119 I see. Good for you
@Hoggler
@Hoggler 9 ай бұрын
We've all been there 😢
@ryanconnell4346
@ryanconnell4346 3 жыл бұрын
It’s such a sad movie it almost makes me cry
@professorpenne9962
@professorpenne9962 2 жыл бұрын
it's a great movie but I always feel like garbage after watching it
@jeahavvalentin980
@jeahavvalentin980 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough that same actor who played Ben did a movie 3 years before this one where he was madly in love with a woman until he saw her kissing another guy which really really broke his heart and he was tearing up profusely till the movie ended
@phillyfansufferer
@phillyfansufferer 10 ай бұрын
Last American Virgin
@hannahboucher4875
@hannahboucher4875 Ай бұрын
Movie name?
@jeahavvalentin980
@jeahavvalentin980 Ай бұрын
@@hannahboucher4875 The last American virgin. Watch the clip to the ending of that movie and you'll see exactly what I mean
@stefmgf8739
@stefmgf8739 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to move to Michigan,but we’re gonna make the trip as well...
@finster1968
@finster1968 5 жыл бұрын
Go back to Friday the 13th the Final Chapter Ben! Jason is waiting for you.
@jimmyrobinson1136
@jimmyrobinson1136 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Ben Sucks hes so stupid Rocky conned him out of Rube Walker your so stupid Ben.
@TheBlockerNator
@TheBlockerNator 3 жыл бұрын
He's too busy being the Last American Virgin
@michaelsanchez8754
@michaelsanchez8754 2 жыл бұрын
haha watching old stag porn getting stoned with teddy
@JeffWelsh-pc6kw
@JeffWelsh-pc6kw Ай бұрын
Ben was killed camping
@christinasavannah7992
@christinasavannah7992 3 жыл бұрын
7.50 an hour????? In 1985....Dayum ben was basically clearing the equivalent of 19 an hoir
@derby2510
@derby2510 3 жыл бұрын
If you go by the actual time Rocky Dennis died, 1978, it would have been more like 30 bucks an hour.
@Kaboomboo
@Kaboomboo 3 жыл бұрын
@@derby2510 I mean couldn't he have gone to Europe and started the job after he returned?
@christinasavannah7992
@christinasavannah7992 2 жыл бұрын
@@derby2510 30 bucks an hour? And Ben is just a Teenager dayum.....he is set for life....Rocky shouldn't have been so mean to Ben....that could Be Ben only shot at success
@mattrodgers2911
@mattrodgers2911 Жыл бұрын
Cher did so little in this scene, and yet, she was perfect
@jessicamccrady5210
@jessicamccrady5210 2 ай бұрын
Watching things like this makes me feel so guilty for feeling sorry for myself. There’s always someone dealt a worse hand than you.
@mikep6399
@mikep6399 Жыл бұрын
i think Ben was Shocked how Rocky responded to the new his eyes like saying why you doing this. i mean ben apologized when rocky told him he talk ed trip too. thennon way out look at rocky as say i am sorry
@Doobie1975
@Doobie1975 3 жыл бұрын
This scene reminds me of a control freak friend I used to have that desperately wanted me to go to a theme park with him, I would ask him to give me the date and I'll request timeoff from work, he refused to give me the date and wants me to just get someone to cover for me, I flat out refused because I don't like calling in that I can't make it more than I have to, then I told him that I don't want to go to a theme park with him because I'm tired of him playing games with me, he unfortunately took it the wrong way and felt like I wasn't being a good friend for him, I didn't understand why he was so desperate for me to go to a theme park with him a couple other friends (who I've never met). Once I found a better friend I completely stopped hanging out with him, the other friend helped me get my self confidence back.
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549
@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549 3 жыл бұрын
10-4
@bimbobaggypants4820
@bimbobaggypants4820 Жыл бұрын
I'm a loner, have been all my life. I cannot stand having people try to rule my life.
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!! People are all calling Ben a "bad friend" when Rocky was the one being a control freak. So Ben couldn't go - on this impossible trip. Rocky could have made other plans but proceeded to insult him. Not a friend at all. I too had a manipulative friend. I had a Friday night off and wanted to go to a football game with my Dad and Brother to watch my youngest Brother play football. My manipulative "friend" wanted me to go hang out with them. I explained that I had plans and he went on an immature tirade tantrum much like Rocky's. I went to the game anyway, and glad I did. My Brother was tragically killed in an accident a year later. When the times came in the future from there to hang out with my "friend", I refused and continued to do so until it was understood that our "friendship" was over. Good riddance.
@hanslanda58
@hanslanda58 6 ай бұрын
Lmfaooo
@derby2510
@derby2510 3 жыл бұрын
That damned Ben!
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
Really? He explained that he was having difficulty staying where he was, but now had the opportunity to live with his Father and make money. Rocky could have shown some consideration for Ben's well being, but instead of that he goes on this tirade tantrum deeply insulting Ben. That impossible trip was pie in the sky anyway. Rocky could have made adjustments and other plans. This scene reveals what a manipulative and clingy control freak Rocky really was, and that Rocky was a selfish "friend". If Ben going away was what really caused Rocky's death, than he should be thanked for hanging around so Rocky could finish his senior year.
@MrFrostien
@MrFrostien Жыл бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 They both had a point, Ben was his only friend and Rocky probably knew he wouldnt be alive for too long. I felt bad for both
@danielnunn7602
@danielnunn7602 2 жыл бұрын
Thats Karma on Rocky for conning Ben for Rube Walker ..
@melanieenglert931
@melanieenglert931 Жыл бұрын
Ben imagined all the pretty girls in Europe running away.
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv 2 жыл бұрын
Not only this but shortly after he tries to call the girlfriend AGAIN and can't get through.. so goes to see her only to break up or to find out she's moving away for her career. just sad. to say life's unfair is the biggest understatement I've ever heard of. It can be so cruel!
@JeffzBeard
@JeffzBeard 3 жыл бұрын
Love how KZbin just randomly shows me a movie I forgot about lol
@Soul.Is.Willing
@Soul.Is.Willing 3 жыл бұрын
Ben looks like the brother from jeepers creepers.
@kimmyfreak200
@kimmyfreak200 3 жыл бұрын
i always thought so too...he looks also a little native american
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
Instead of blaming it all on Ben, try to see it from his perspective. Ben is the scapegoat here for a dream that was an impossibility. To get to Europe? 5 digits at least. Who amongst them has that kind of money? And how about the motorcycles, where are they? I don't believe either one has a motorcycle license in the U.S. - let alone Europe. No way this dream would have ever happened. The way it was. Ben had to get on with his life, and he tried to be as human as possible. Rocky was a out of line there.
@melanieenglert931
@melanieenglert931 Жыл бұрын
They're making $7.50 an hour in most states and this takes place in 1980.
@johnnyv1938
@johnnyv1938 3 ай бұрын
Ben should of got his little imaginary computer like he did in Friday the 13th pt 4 and told Rocky 52.00 barely would get you out of the state
@dinomorell5163
@dinomorell5163 3 жыл бұрын
I felt so sorry for Ben here.
@andrewcrenshaw2904
@andrewcrenshaw2904 2 жыл бұрын
he was the last american virgin
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
True. He took a lot of undeserved crap here. That ride was an impossibility, and Ben had to get on with his life. He was as human as possible given the situation.
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
Yes, everyone says what a "bad friend" Ben was, but if you look at it objectively it was Rocky who was the horrible "friend". Ben couldn't go? Make other plans and wish him the best instead of going on that tirade tantrum. Not cool. If it's even true that Ben's "betrayal" was what led to Rocky's death, then he should be thanked for hanging around so Rocky could finish his senior year. That was too control freak and clingy of Rocky, and he was not a real friend.
@mebhisntatownie
@mebhisntatownie 5 ай бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 agreed he was going to go alone anyway
@whitneywilliams317
@whitneywilliams317 Жыл бұрын
I felt bad for both of these kids😂 I get how Rocky felt, he was a little rough with the words, but sure understand how he felt. Being called dumb or stupid isn't fun, but being call can sometimes help you to get smarter.
@mebhisntatownie
@mebhisntatownie 9 ай бұрын
rocky can still go to Europe just not with ben i dont know why he forgot, but he was going to go alone anyway
@mmhmmmyearight7183
@mmhmmmyearight7183 3 ай бұрын
I don’t blame him canceling at last moment is really messed up
@andrewcrenshaw2904
@andrewcrenshaw2904 2 жыл бұрын
He made him leave because he was The Last American Virgin
@Marchant2
@Marchant2 3 ай бұрын
This was the turning point of the movie when bad events happened with more frequency.
@bacsolo3719
@bacsolo3719 Жыл бұрын
The mum is vintage hot. Oh, the europe thing. Bad luck Rock.
@JosephDutra
@JosephDutra 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't even about the trip, it was about Rocky losing his friend T_T
@texasrockshillcountry6574
@texasrockshillcountry6574 Жыл бұрын
That was all Rocky's doing. Ben had to get on with his life, and was unable to carry on with that impossible trip. That's just life. Rocky could have been more understanding, and wished him the best. But instead of that he goes on that tirade tantrum revealing what a control freak he was. So Rocky was a horrible "friend".
@karagdagangimpormasyon4736
@karagdagangimpormasyon4736 Жыл бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 yeah, Rocky was not an understanding person.
@jeahavvalentin980
@jeahavvalentin980 Жыл бұрын
@@texasrockshillcountry6574 Rocky is a good friend with a kind heart and soul
@jeahavvalentin980
@jeahavvalentin980 Жыл бұрын
@@karagdagangimpormasyon4736 Rocky was very understanding of his friend
@pennyquicksall6857
@pennyquicksall6857 Жыл бұрын
this was one a good movie
@defblinders9585
@defblinders9585 20 күн бұрын
All Ben had to say was that he was going to work his new job to pay for the trip....
@jimmyfoppiano2822
@jimmyfoppiano2822 4 жыл бұрын
Rocky was right. Ben was stupid. How do you let someone con you out of Rube Walker?
@jimmyfoppiano2822
@jimmyfoppiano2822 3 жыл бұрын
@@mike47734 damn straight
@thomasgrabowski2202
@thomasgrabowski2202 3 жыл бұрын
Poor kids. I feel bad for both of them.
@lauraluffman6177
@lauraluffman6177 3 жыл бұрын
Rip rocky
@stephenotoole408
@stephenotoole408 5 жыл бұрын
He talks like Michael Jackson a bit.
@marysutton434
@marysutton434 5 жыл бұрын
I never realized that.
@rainyblox7710
@rainyblox7710 4 жыл бұрын
I literally was thinking that.
@jessicacristiny
@jessicacristiny 4 жыл бұрын
Omg is true
@MrMisterChiliPepper88
@MrMisterChiliPepper88 3 жыл бұрын
1:49
@twatwafflearttheclown
@twatwafflearttheclown 5 ай бұрын
I know it wasn’t gonna happen but he still smashed Rocky’s dreams of going to Europe😭
@istartedajoke1704
@istartedajoke1704 Ай бұрын
Looks like rocky was in love.
@didsomebodysaydmt8193
@didsomebodysaydmt8193 3 жыл бұрын
If I dug a hole every time a doctor told me he was going to die I'd be eating chop suey in china by now.
@andrewcrenshaw2904
@andrewcrenshaw2904 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this was a comment from a year ago. I hope you lived long enough to read THIS comment. Survival is important.
@georgebrooks7809
@georgebrooks7809 8 күн бұрын
ben was A chump
@Tgrey808
@Tgrey808 Жыл бұрын
I would react the same if all I wanted as a dying wish was to travel to europe with my best friend
@Anonymous-qg9xx
@Anonymous-qg9xx 3 ай бұрын
Rocky should have said "WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME THIS ENTIRE TIME BEN!! REAL FRIENDS DONT LIE AND SPRING GARBAGE LIKE THIS AT THAT LAST MINUTE!"
@Hjgfrfjufdetivjiu
@Hjgfrfjufdetivjiu 3 жыл бұрын
Cher is a fox
@JaniceCarter-ws7lu
@JaniceCarter-ws7lu 8 ай бұрын
This really broke Rocky like things may break us, and he gave up on everything, including living.. Rocky had a lot of tough people around him plus the unconditional love from his mom and he looked over that and the fact that he was sick. When you have God ahead of your life things don't won't hurt as bad because he will show you one time that he will turn things around and he understands when we feel down and out but it doesn't please him when we stay down because he is the Truth and keeps his promises.. This was a really Good movie and if you have recently went through this cheer up things will get better Mask..God bless you Cher❤
@selinaogorman8380
@selinaogorman8380 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of something else when rocky passed on I don’t think Ben ever came back to his funeral what a horrible friend Ben is could have worked it out with his mom and save his friendship with rocky he didn’t deserve this he was sick and could have passed away at anytime.
@hueyfreeman6262
@hueyfreeman6262 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he didnt know he died
@kimmyfreak200
@kimmyfreak200 3 жыл бұрын
some people can't handle guilt
@chilliecheesecake
@chilliecheesecake Жыл бұрын
He was all the way in Michigan. When you're that young sometimes shit happens that's out of your control. It ain't that deep.
@JeffWelsh-pc6kw
@JeffWelsh-pc6kw Ай бұрын
Role reverse Rocky attacking Ben with his anger .
@richalderson6069
@richalderson6069 7 ай бұрын
Lawrence Monoson got to play two of the most heartbreaking sad moments in cinema history in this scene and the ending of The Last American Virgin.
@chuyitopizana1251
@chuyitopizana1251 3 жыл бұрын
What rocky should have told ben is that if you dont stay here then “your a dead fuck”
@chilliecheesecake
@chilliecheesecake Жыл бұрын
Ugly ahh nigga. Looking like meg griffin with red hair
@raehicks7348
@raehicks7348 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree.aybe Ben or Rocky's Mom didn't really take it seriously but Rocky did. Life expectancy is an estimation and that kid fought damn hard to live, even through the pain and loss of sleep! He was beautiful to everyone and brought beauty to the earth while he was alive. He deserved it being a reality as well as the respect anyone else would have and have received. I can relate to this scene many times in lifebin regards to people's word meaning absolutely nothing but a waste of valuable time as well as manipulation. When you say something you should intend to follow through exactly as you said you would, period. No one is guaranteed life tomorrow and we all have a life expectancy. Life is to short to invest energy and loyalty on folks that don't even intend to follow through on their word from the get go. On my opinion this is one of the greatest deficiencies in the world today and from actual experience of observation has forced folks to not trust in others. Also to be more solitary.
@MegaFCKforever
@MegaFCKforever 20 күн бұрын
Why is Rube Walker so important for him to say his stupid giving him that ealier
@KarenLee-m4o
@KarenLee-m4o 21 күн бұрын
Sad Rocky lost his best friend..
@TakeA1970sShower
@TakeA1970sShower 4 жыл бұрын
I think deep down he knew he couldn't go backpacking through Europe; not with the amount of medical care he required with only a boy to help him in a foreign country. A good consolation prize would have been; "you can go to a hospital in Europe, we'll start workin' on 'er now; see if we can get you in one, see about donations and what not to get you there." If anyone could've done it, it would be his mother. It wasn't like her to stand passively by.
@TakeA1970sShower
@TakeA1970sShower 4 жыл бұрын
@Lavern I should've specified being on the Harley during the day; hospital at night.
@markbauer4971
@markbauer4971 Жыл бұрын
Its a real tearjerker
@phillyfansufferer
@phillyfansufferer 10 ай бұрын
People calling Ben a bad friend make me laugh. Ben didn't ditch the trip and Rocky so he could go bang some chick for the summertime. He was leaving to go start his life somewhere making what to him at the time was good money. He was taking his first step into being a grown-up. Cry and cry about poor Rocky and his trip, but if you want to rag on Ben then go look up what is well documented about what Rocky Dennis was like in real life instead of this fictional fairy tale.
@simshengvue4642
@simshengvue4642 11 ай бұрын
Make a wish didn’t exist back then
@lauraluffman6177
@lauraluffman6177 Ай бұрын
Rocky was really hurt
@Matt-tn3lz
@Matt-tn3lz Жыл бұрын
I was honestly spooked by the way he looks a few years ago but a few years later, I come back and I'm not anymore. I feel bad for him, the argument with his mom in one scene is heartbreaking
@briandiggs3508
@briandiggs3508 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the way the real rocky acted
@TheThatoneguy12121
@TheThatoneguy12121 3 жыл бұрын
He had a short fuse and temper?
@chilliecheesecake
@chilliecheesecake Жыл бұрын
​@@TheThatoneguy12121Combine the ginger thing with chronic pounding headaches and one can see how it'd be a recipe for one cranky motherfucker
@Mike-gl4wt
@Mike-gl4wt Ай бұрын
Friends who act like this to you are just dumping you.
@nataliegillmore7436
@nataliegillmore7436 3 ай бұрын
It takes a whole lot of money to go to Europe and my dad has been to Europe.
@johnnynbk
@johnnynbk Жыл бұрын
So long, your face will stay with me forever.
@Therrammist
@Therrammist 3 жыл бұрын
dudell be making 7.50 for the rest of his life lmao. raise that shit
@chilliecheesecake
@chilliecheesecake Жыл бұрын
You know that inflation exists and that in 1978, the year of Rocky's death, $7.50 was equivalent to nearly $36 in today's money? 🙄 Dummy
@Ultra-LV
@Ultra-LV 4 жыл бұрын
Ben looks like Adam Driver.
@noeditbookreviews
@noeditbookreviews 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too.
@MultiKamil97
@MultiKamil97 3 жыл бұрын
More like Adam Driver looks like Ben lol
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