mask -poem and argument

[@sluggzmcgee6272]

That slap was her way of saying "I know I'm a total failure, but my addiction has got too strong a hold on me to admit that you're right."

[@lindaoneil5085]

That's how many parents are. If a stranger tells them the truth about themselves, they shrug it off, but when their own child says the same thing, all of a sudden it's "backtalk" and "disrespect". When I was growing up, the adults were ALWAYS right, and the kids were ALWAYS wrong, and as a kid, you were not allowed to take offense to it, no matter how arbitrarily the adults treated you. Later, when the adults found out you were innocent after all, no apology, no nothing. If you were in the wrong, you had to practically beg for forgiveness. The one-sidedness of it all still makes me angry today. 😠

[@lfgubrs]

Cher deserved an Oscar for this role

[@susanb2015]

I always thought she got it for decades until I found out she didn't. Because of the great reviews the critics gave her.

[@NightShade671]

I thought Red should have an Oscar. His acting is fantastic.

[@estrellaluciano2741]

And the sun shining on my face.... 🥺

[@John-ob7dh]

That is very true.

[@jenniferfelan694]

"All you care about is getting loaded and laid!!!". Rocky Dennis was brutally honest about his mother being a neglectful parent. All she wanted to do was go out get drunk and wasted.

[@MrJamieMurph4141969]

Right, and her problem was she was way too poor a sport to admit it.

[@selinaogorman8380]

Jennifer Felan exactly not a honest mom she should be admitting what she is doing happy Rocky never turned out to be like his mom rusty is to much in this scene.

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

@The Wraith I’d have to go back and check in the book again. I think it isn’t. She started using the drugs more after the first father left. But I gotta go back and check. Update: In the film 🎞 he tells the doctors it was neither the mom or the dad’s fault Update from Novel Page 10: It says that rocky’s condition is not a result of any teratogen ingested by either parent but rather two recessive genes contributed by the mother and father. It’s extremely rare: 1 in 22,000,000 births.

[@kimmyfreak200]

@The Wraith its not...she was on a talk show and was asked about this...she was a recreational user not addicted... plus his deformity was a genetic disease google it thats where u get it from a parents genes... its not caused by drugs so shut up.

[@Face_Reality]

She was grieving with knowing her son is dying. She did drugs and took it out on him at times...

[@Aaron_Scissorhands]

*_FUN FACT:_* That poem is an actual poem that the real Rocky Dennis wrote. In fact, according to an interview Rusty Dennis did back in the 80s or 90s, this scene is very accurate to what happened in real life. The drug/alcohol pamphlets being left around the house, the dishes being broken, ripping the baseball card, the slap, etc.

[@TampaAries]

No shit

[@boingokky]

be nice! @@TampaAries

[@jakefreedomfighterjosohqajds]

Thats to bad

[@NoemyTorrance]

So it is true, this movie was actually based on a real kid named Rocky Dennis? I had my doubts going in the comments. I'll search it up, keep me updated.

[@alinevollmer9693]

wow, I didn't know that but I could already imagine that it was all really true - it was written based on a true story

[@suzanneolivar1]

This film breaks my heart every time I see it. Tremendous actors. RIP Rocky.

[@nataliegillmore7436]

And Rusty Dennis.

[@veerodriguez1751]

This is so sad. A kid is doing well in school and he just wants to read his mom a poem. She doesn't have time.....

[@Face_Reality]

She was grieving with knowing her son is dying. She did drugs and took it out on him at times...

[@severinefisteberg8893]

@@Face_Reality Yes i felt that Rusty wanted to escape reality going out every night and taking drugs..She knew that Rocky was dying and facing that had to be horrific .. She loved Rocky but knew that in a few months He would be gone...sad..

[@lindaoneil5085]

I'll bet she had tons of regret when she found he had died in his sleep. No second chances to make it up to him. Cherish your loved ones. It is later than you think. 😢

[@danthetolerantone3731]

Actually she's just pissed off about the drug prevention pamphlets

[@finster1968]

If you’ve never seen the movie, it’s definitely worth watching. You will understand this scene a lot better, and be blown away by Cher’s performance. Truly.

[@izzysantiago978]

The song in the background is, Chris Norman & Suzi Quatro - Stumblin' In 1978

[@lishsc3]

That’s funny….. I just heard that song on my Sirius satellite app and it made me think of this scene. That’s why I’m here, lol

[@bcrunch4232]

I bet Rusty felt awful looking back on this fight, after he passed.

[@guineapiglady2841]

After???!!!

[@bcrunch4232]

@@guineapiglady2841 yeah and before too.

[@selinaogorman8380]

The poem was beautiful the slap that Rusty did was so wrong rocky didn't deserve that.☹️

[@selinaogorman8380]

veronicamamiful me to because rocky is expressing himself and Rusty so out of line.😒

[@MrJamieMurph4141969]

Plus his reason for getting her all those NA and AA brochures for Christmas went WAY over her head; as he tells her, he doesn't want her taking drugs, is all. He's sick to death of her going out every single night and getting wasted out of her mind and coming home completely out of it, as a result. At least in the scene right after this,she makes up for her ugliness here by telling him she actually liked his poem.

[@joeycoburn.7335]

There's a whole bunch of things rocky didn't deserve!! And having her as a mom was one of them!

[@bluetrailerproductions7488]

@@joeycoburn.7335 To be fair she did defend him a lot

[@selinaogorman8380]

MrJamieMurph4141969 true but she went about it the wrong way and plus I know she was on something that changed her personality she done lots of drugs otherwise she be more sincere about it.

[@JoanErose89]

One of Cher's best performances I think!

[@jondstewart]

This was too real of a movie. Many would be quick to judge Rusty as a nasty, trashy person and drug addict, but the reality was she wasn’t a bad person at heart at all. She did drugs and ran around to deal with having a son that had a physical disability and later on a judgmental father disappointed with her choices she made in life. She was a great mother to Rocky most of the movie that reassured him especially with a school principal that assumes he’s special needs, a cold and impersonal doctor, and that he’ll be just fine in the long run when he starts school and win people over with his kindness and good nature.

[@MrJamieMurph4141969]

He may not be her warden, but she IS his mother, as he says, and being a good parent does NOT include being neglectful of your own kid by going out every single night getting drunk and wasted to death.

[@selinaogorman8380]

MrJamieMurph4141969 right on and yes Rusty was to wild and hookup with lots of men and getting wasted and drinking am surprised and didn’t get pregnant again Poot rocky.

[@calliebriggs9021]

My mother does the same

[@anthonycusinato3969]

@@calliebriggs9021 sorry Callie. Sometimes parents do shitty things and either don't seem to get, or just don't stop to think about how they might be making their kids feel. Hope you're ok.

[@Face_Reality]

She was grieving with knowing her son is dying. She did drugs and took it out on him at times...

[@kristinesmart6825]

@@calliebriggs9021 I'm SINCERELY 😔 sorry & sad for you. You keep doing things the good, right way, and you'll be blessed with freedom from her smile 😊👋

[@Grundig80]

This movie is so underrated. Cher and Eric Stoltz were both brilliant.

[@paulv7554]

When your mom says, "I wouldn't do that again if I were you." That's a sure sign you're about to get smacked upside the head.

[@veronicamamiful]

Beautiful poem

[@Karmen2010]

Wasn't that supposed to be a poem the real Rocky wrote?

[@joel8583]

Yes

[@daviddedominici1705]

@Alf DarkDeadly a bully AND a "weed seller?!" My god, man! I can almost forgive a teenager for being a bully, but the weed selling? Treacherous villain! If there's any justice in the world that lion-headed, 16 year old, seller of the weeds should burn in awesome hellfire for all eternity! And How DARE anyone ever even consider portraying this evil child in any positive manner! SHAME!

[@Soul.Is.Willing]

I wonder why sun on his face is both good and a drag?

[@josepheduardohurtadomorale190]

@NormalStyleCrew sure

[@thomascorcoran9176]

Love this film!!!!!! Both Cher and Eric have amazing performances. Can someone tell me how Cher was not even nominated for an Oscar? It boggles my mind as she is so great as Rusty. This film continues to RIP by heart out however Rocky is such an inspiration:)

[@evepanchys6742]

Thomas Corcoran she was nominated for an Oscar ( I believe) but lost 🙄how I do not know 🤔 she really was great in the movie!!! They both were!!!

[@valenbordon4622]

She didnt get nominated because the critics said she didnt know how to dress like a serious actress. She presented an award that night 1986 dressed in an amazing Bob Mackie gown to express how mad she was that she didnt get nominated.. its an ICONIC moment

[@scottjulie27]

I think one of the reasons why Cher won the Oscar for Moonstruck (as good as she was in that movie), was because that was the Academy's way of making up for not giving her the Oscar for "Mask". She really deserved it.

[@daddylongleg9113]

Well it was just Cher acting like herself.. not that challenging really..

[@elgrigorio1]

The Real Rusty said Cher portrayed her exactly as she was, and was flattered.

[@larrylollis5875]

He was so protective for his mother

[@susanb2015]

They play the Breakfast Club every other day but I haven't seen this terrific movie since the 80s.

[@brianmeen2158]

Great point! They play the same movies over and over but very rarely Play greats like Mask

[@susanb2015]

@@brianmeen2158 Breaking Away is another great movie I hadn't seen since the 80s until recently.

[@mattrobillard3984]

He cared so much about his mom,❤

[@ukmedicfrcs]

Poor Rocky. I loved your poem sweet boy.

[@hayleypalm7371]

"You're my MOTHER!"😔

[@stefmgf8739]

Folks if you’ve watched this movie,you can’t say she’s not a good mother...she’s an amazing mother.

[@John-ob7dh]

I think Dozer would have made a better mother.

[@chilliecheesecake]

Except for the fact that she's emotionally unavailable, dismissive of his personal struggles, and strung out on dope

[@ButteredToast32]

When she strikes his cheek…damn, that was heartbreaking. Seems we often say or do things we don’t mean when it’s out of anger and rage.

[@suspicious2delicious]

Like when my mom said she hates me. You don't forget something like that ever.

[@grodjigoli9509]

Sad.😢😢😢

[@grodjigoli9509]

Cruel.😢😢😢😢

[@grodjigoli9509]

Heartbreaking.😢😢😢😢

[@grodjigoli9509]

Sad.😢😢😢

[@RC-Carlos1]

That was a actual poem that he wrote..

[@philbecker4676]

And it sucked.

[@youngmenace6077]

@@philbecker4676 Just like your life😂

[@BrokeNerfing]

@@philbecker4676 lmao

[@unclediggie6559]

It was ghost written by Amanda Gorman

[@anthonyserrano8835]

​@@youngmenace6077it wasn't a great poem, it seemed like it was written by a kid, if Rocky wanted to be in a normal school, and he was in fact a genius in school, his creations should be judged with those standards 👌🏻

[@RubberWilbur]

For those wanting to know the song in the background is called Stumblin'In performed by Suzi Quatro and Chris Norman

[@mw8142]

I cried so hard at the end of the movie. I was pregnant with my first born. My baby was two weeks over due. When I gave birth to a stillborn 7 pound baby boy. April 5, 1986. James Christopher Williams❤ (Buried in Fort Sam in San antonio texas) 💙. You will always be my first love. Love you, sweetheart Love mom

[@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854]

_...and the sun shining on my face!_ ☀️

[@cranberryjuice3998]

>is in room with music playing >goes to room and turns on more music

[@selinaogorman8380]

Petrifyer L well that’s probably how rocky handle the stress by putting on some music plus he was disappointed in his mom she promised before she stop but she lied.

[@pinebarrenpatriot8289]

Stumbling In by Suzi Quatro, good song👍

[@flames24lightning]

It was always going to result in things escalating, but I don't blame Rocky for what he did in trying to keep his mom from going out. You can only take so much and he reached his boiling point.

[@grodjigoli9509]

Sad.😢😢

[@grodjigoli9509]

Sad.😢😢😢

[@user-pc3xb4hd8i]

Man this film was the real deal it should have swept the Oscars. Cher’s amazing.

[@NightShade671]

This is hilarious. He's a great actor.

[@Anonymous-qg9xx]

I wondered if Rocky's mom went out all the time to get away from looking at Rocky or because she felt guilty for having a son that looks like that...so she drowns her frustration or guilt in drinking and drugs......

[@JR-vt7rb]

Well she was never the responsible model parent as she was portrayed in the movie, she was still young and dumb at times, but i think it is the way around, she is depressed and feels like is her fault that rocky was born like that, but like in most cases instead of having a life changing revelation, she sunked deeper into her depression and seaked refuge in the relieve of drugs, thats why drugs and depresion dont add up, you end worse than you started, even if you have tons of money and a succesful carrier drugs will screw you over, mainly because it changes your perception, there are seasons were i smoke weed and i feel like i cant live without it , then i quit for a few months and i can't believe i smoked in the first place, but then i smoke for a couple of months again, and that's weed, i don't want to know whats like when you are on heavy drugs like pills, coke or heroin

[@carlosaraujo9037]

Oops.. That slap hurts.... Great movie... Great performers...

[@leahhinton2803]

This scene made me cry so much when l was a little kid

[@kimdavison8083]

this is one of my all time favorite movies

[@politecat4236]

It's amazing isn't it! I haven't watched it in years and dug out the dvd. Watched it twice in 2 days! I love this movie so much

[@analystzorncasteel3047]

She so needed to be called out ... "What about you? All you care about it getting laid, and getting loaded! " ... Movie-screen history, right there.

[@selinaogorman8380]

Zorn Casteel exactly rocky indeed had to put her into her place so she can wake up and be a better mother after all he don’t have his father so he still needs his mom.

[@gabethedinosaur95]

Rocky was one of the most inspiring human beings I’ve ever heard of. His poem changed everything. The sun shining on his face made him see the sun and the horizon.

[@CruceEntertainment]

Also a drag: seeing Back to the Future become such a hit, and me not it in it.

[@qkqp]

😂

[@javoman13]

The cat acted very good!

[@marysutton434]

1:35. When your mom changes her mind about taking you out for pizza.

[@thebillsierraoscarclub]

True

[@michaelvanderkley1]

Lame joke

[@marysutton434]

@Uncle Milty 🙄

[@22lilacsky]

when we love to hate...and all we are left with is ourselves.

[@lisaweiner215]

Great poem!

[@bensantiago4557]

Mask is a great movie very moving and Cher an amazing actress.I wish this was available to rent or buy on KZbin

[@Fee212]

Rocky didn't deserve THIS mother. Rest in Paradise Roy Lee. 🙏 ♥️

[@IntelligentGooner007]

the way cher ripped the cards i couldn't stop laughing 😂😂😂

[@vincentp.locollo3343]

ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS GETTING LOADED AND LAID!!!! REALITY SPOKEN!!

[@exbronco1980]

she should've said "snap out of it" after she slapped him.

[@porchawalker9354]

Lol moon struck

[@elaineclementsfinn1872]

@@porchawalker9354 no you didn't. Lol

[@John-ob7dh]

I certainly agree about the ride on a Harley. When I get on my wide glide on a nice day ,everything in the world is great.

[@Seeker887]

WG’s are best , ride on bruther!

[@John-ob7dh]

@@Seeker887 Thanks Russ.By the way ,I am 80 .on my 3rd Harley since 89.Cheers.

[@bahgawd8158]

2:17 ...today that's considered child abuse ..smh. Anyway I love this movie. Cher was excellent. Stoltz was and Laura Dern. She was so adorable in this. Especially the scene when Rocky first meets her when shes taking care of the horse and she says "are you starving? I'm starving..will you take me to lunch?" So damn cute

[@joakimberg7897]

It's needed today too.

[@blakereed1654]

In this scenario it is child abuse, Rusty neglects her son and when she’s faced with reality for her own sake, she takes it out on him and hurts him, physically and mentally and then neglects him again. This scene is a depiction of child abuse.

[@killerkitten7534]

You know this would probably shock you, but in the 80s that was also child abuse. People just tended to normalize neglect and channeling anger into physical corporal punishment as opposed to parenting more. Still was abusive to slap your kid after he calls you out on your rampant drug abuse after neglecting him consistently just as it is today

[@BMeister22]

(slap) SNAP OUT OF IT!!!!!

[@patrickbarnwell3958]

BMeister22 you need to do a voice over of Mask lol

[@BMeister22]

@@rockydennis2662 Haha You will enjoy it. :)

[@Vf46]

Cher was incredible in this movie, especially in this scene. She was robbed of that Oscar nomination

[@happyone8580]

“These things things are drag”☺️

[@kchuntinghawk5514]

One great movie

[@patrickc3419]

Excellent acting in this film.

[@fergaloneill1247]

Rockey was so clever

[@ProWrestlingReality]

That mother throughout the whole movie made me sick

[@derekross6649]

Ahhh real life struggles of humans.

[@Face_Reality]

She was grieving with knowing her son is dying. She did drugs and took it out on him at times...

[@chilliecheesecake]

Bingo.

[@brandy8512]

Love this movie..not available on Xfinity aka Comcast

[@brandy8512]

I live in Bloomingdale, IL no other choice ...sad

[@variousJnames]

She was a horrible mother. He reallt needed her and all she wanted was to escape. She had an older son who died of AIDS a few years after Rocky passed. Tragic family.

[@JamieStallingsworth]

Considering he has a head like a Dinosaur, I doubt he even felt that slap

[@MrGreen-qr5pe]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sammytheusername6818]

wow

[@jimmymackinnon8474]

His head is made out of rock. That’s why he is called Rocky. Just my theory

[@Soundeagle3456]

Side note Rocky was one ferocious kid, if you hurt him, he'd fire like an automatic weapon at you, scare you shit less. A true lion.

[@raulquiroz7492]

@@Soundeagle3456 Yeah I heard the real Rocky had a real temper, but I guess if I had his condition and was bullied, I would be an irritable person too. Life isn't fair and that's why we have to try to be kind to one another.

[@alinevollmer9693]

That's hard that Rusty hits Rocky and she doesn't even feel sorry so sad

[@fredrickstrassburg4132]

I knew she was gonna slap him... bcuz in some situations like these the child gets slapped by the parent

[@bethsmith2833]

It was a good movie no one deserves to be treated like that so sad

[@dereka.b.8136]

Momma needs a fix!!!

[@analystzorncasteel3047]

Rocky may be the disfigured one ... but the tragic soul in this film is his mom.

[@brianpacheco5260]

the next time she sees him he passes away

[@jessicavilt7583]

His mom was out of line. She just didn't want to hear the truth and when he told her the truth she can't take it. Doesn't admit when she's in the wrong. Bad parenting is what I call it. If drinking, going out all the time and getting laid all the time is more important then u shouldn't be a parent. No kid likes to be alone all the time.

[@bigdaddytrips6197]

That it ? ( walks away ) LOL

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

1:30 1:44 1:53 1:59 Cher’s a cursing machine. No wonder WHYY Jay Sherman had her featured cursing nonstop on THE CRITIC that time.

[@robocock475]

And this ladies and gentlemen is Cher in her true form; no real acting here

[@joanbecenti8938]

Another Oscar snub from the Academy in 1985. The other being "The Color Purple". The Academy must have been asleep that year.

[@kagemaru259]

The Color Purple and Mask should've swept the Oscars that year, instead of that boring snoozefest Out Of Africa. Goldberg should've taken the Best Actress Award, and Best Supporting Actress should've been between Winfrey and Cher. Eric Stoltz for Best Actor and Danny Glover for Best Supporting Actor. Why he wasn't even nominated for Mister is a damn shame. He was EXCELLENT in that role.

[@EphemeralProductions]

They've been asleep for the past 50 plus years lol

[@amfthehedgehog1993]

If he’s still here I listen to him

[@christiangraf5474]

I loved the SUNNY AND CHER Show.👍😷🇦🇹

[@danieldavee7088]

DANG

[@cobraalaniz149]

This movie came out the year I was born I used to watch a lot as a kid

[@listentothenightfilms]

Once an Ol' Lady.... ALWAYS an Ol' Lady.

[@tinaholman956]

She was a cool mother in her own way

[@illegitimatefilm]

That’s what the drug induced voices in her head told her, anyway.

[@EphemeralProductions]

She was at times but this was not one of those times.

[@payday2xgaming]

I felt bad she finding want to listen the dishes bruh

[@SociallyCorrupt]

Doea anyone know the name of the song in this scene?

[@lilly243]

Random Freak stumbin by suzi quarto

[@lilly243]

Suzi quatro and chris norman- stumblin

[@SociallyCorrupt]

jeannette jones thank you, i like the song

[@brendaleake]

stumblin' in. but I recall that being pop during late summer 1979 and I thought rocky dennis died in the fall of 1978

[@Seeyoulater98]

Darude sandstorm

[@gabbyb7347]

Cher is a brillant actress.

[@waynehoxit5566]

Was there a main reason Rocky was extreme mad at his mother

[@lock7254]

Wayne Hoxit she would do drugs to cope & she’s promised him she’d stop going out and doing drugs so he went to camp with nothing but blind people as a “break” just watch the full movie.

[@selinaogorman8380]

Wayne Hoxit well rusty promised to cut back on her drinking and doing drugs i guess she did it far to often breaking promises to Rocky so he had enough so he told her the truth and to stop doing drugs and drinking.

[@EphemeralProductions]

If u have to have it explained to you then you didn't pay attention to the scene

[@coolfix948]

It is very easy to judge her guys but the whole point of the movie is life is not the way we always fantasize it is. We are living in our own Disney picture perfect imagination world. Life is life and it is not some imagination. We have to accept our life just the way it and with available options try to grow out of it. Nothing is normal this is the message this move gives. This movie is much better than Titanic

[@coolfix948]

@Barry McCool why

[@coolfix948]

@Barry McCool OK. But living with such a lion type face in real life is far from fictional.

[@coolfix948]

@Barry McCool ok

[@DanielsArtStudioGamesAnimation]

Use to be mother disciplining their children. Now this here was an opposite.

[@anthonyserrano8835]

I don't get it, he was a genius in school, but when he decides to write a poem it seems like it was written by a kid, it doesn't mean it's too bad though

[@nadineviljoen5189]

Beautiful movie

[@jdspreest]

And he dies that night. If I were her, and this happened, there’s no way I’d ever forgive myself. I’d end my life too

[@summonliiva5673]

Well this wasn't the night he died.

[@silviaslots8920]

@@summonliiva5673 No I don't think it was the night he died ☹️

[@MrJamieMurph4141969]

@@silviaslots8920 No, it wasn't until months later, at least as depicted in the film.

[@chilliecheesecake]

Spoken like someone who's never seen the movie lmao

[@stefmgf8739]

Fella did you watch the film on Wish? he didn’t die that night, they got the time to make peace and she tells him the poem was great

[@Nepthu]

Cher says having kids is a drag.

[@grodjigoli9509]

She is very bad.😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@AudreyDurden]

Woah, easy there Cher, take a chill pill chick,

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

She’s already addicted to pills 💊

[@idk-if1bh]

name that tune??? who songs this song and title?? hard to hear but chorus sounds "like good old tune" as stevie nicks would say thx u

[@idk-if1bh]

well, stevie says "good old song" i say "good old tune" bye

[@heidirourke2259]

Its hard when your parent son or daughter family is a drug addict or alcoholic

[@user-xk7ft3tz2o]

This is sad tragic true story. He was born will a terminal illness and he die so young that not fair. His mother is fool she is a drug addict and sex manic. Her first priority should be for her son not drugs or men. She had no right to slap him in face he care about his mother. He doesn't want her to get high on illegal drugs all the time or get laid all the time. Eric Stoltz playing Rocky was his best performance he deserves a Oscar for this role.I heard Rusty pass away. Rocky deserve to RIP 😢✌️.

[@hartwellheisenberg1179]

Poor Rocky.

[@mikemurphy1208]

Rocky was the parent.

[@sunshines4555]

😢

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

This is WHYY you never do drugs

[@thomasgrabowski2202]

Wow she looks like my ex lol. Almost behaves like her too. 😬😬

[@thrustinjustin5115]

I'm right there with you rock.

[@Adrians_films]

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