The Most Misunderstood Donkey Kong Game

[@Chipss]

Note: Title was changed on 9/15/22.

[@therealhardrock]

What was the title before?

[@Chipss]

@@therealhardrockThe original title is shown at 1:31

[@Issachar-northern-kingdom]

I just realized that there is a map of the northern kremisphere inside the first cabin of pirate panic in DKC2

[@Marc_Araujo]

Def not the weakest of the trilogy...it's the most polished and has a ton of variety in its gameplay. I would play 3 over the original any day. I consider it a masterpiece.

[@Savannah_Simpson]

I agree. I think the first is the weakest, but that’s saying quite a bit about the quality of the trilogy.

[@melzam7420]

I haven’t played the first 😮, and the second game I have played a bit of it few days ago in my Switch 😮; but I agree that the third game is the most polished game of the DKC 2D platform 😮🙂… But as I love so much the third game I have to agree that the title of the game (Dixie Kong’s Double Trouble) *doesn’t make sense 😮;* since the system of change character during the game exist since the first and second game… which makes me wonder *what makes different the system of change character in the third game that the first two games doesn’t have 😮?*

[@Marc_Araujo]

@@melzam7420 The "Double Trouble" refers to Dixie's problem of having to save Donkey and Diddy AND babysit Kiddy while she's doing it.

[@melzam7420]

@@Marc_Araujo ooooh I see 😮… now it makes sense 🤣👍🏼, thanks for the explanation ☺️…

[@RandomYoutuber1]

​@@melzam7420 _"The "Double Trouble" refers to Dixie's problem of having to save Donkey and Diddy AND babysit Kiddy while she's doing it."_ Interesting idea, but inaccurate. If you're interested, I will explain the actual meaning behind the games title. It was an idea by Paul Weaver, the co-designer, and refers to the idea of two antagonists in the game. The idea was that the (first) "bad guy" (Khaos) was the robot, but there was to be a "real" bad guy (the one who is pulling all the strings), called Baron K.Roolenstein who remained hidden for much of the game. Remember at the end of the game when he is seen hiding behind the curtain until you defeat the robot? To be fair, the meaning of the game's title is certainly not obvious, and even I (as one of the programmers) didn't know why that name was chosen until I asked the designers what the "Double Trouble" was in reference to. So its not a surprise that no-one else worked out what it meant, either! It's possible, the "guy behind the curtain" idea may have come from ""The wizard of Oz"" and inspired the Lead designer (Andrew Collard) , but I can't confirm that as it never occurred to me to ask him at the time, whether the movie is what inspired the curtain sequence.

[@MrJohnlennon007]

Love this game, DKC3 105% is a great challenge for everyone who think it’s too easy or not fun! Great video!

[@onesywashere]

First time seeing this creator and honestly it’s extremely lighthearted and wholesome. Your commentary is really good, hope you keep that drive for future videos

[@mrsticky005]

My own original cartoon character Kiddie Sticky is named after Kiddy Kong. Kiddie Sticky is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Sticky and the older brother of Tiny Sticky (also named after Tiny Kong). The Sticky's are a family of Stick Figures.

[@HeyItIsMichal]

I would say that DKC3 isn't as perfect as DKC2, but it's better than the original. It's shocking the insane quality of the series as a whole, even the DKL games are pretty good.

[@ashantegray6752]

I don't care what people think DKC3 is my favorite better than DKC2 , Diddy's kong Quest was too dark but Donkey kong country 3 was more colorful. Kiddy Kong was a really cool character, it was good that Dixie had a stronger partner like him.

[@OmegaFox09]

I LOVE DKC3. Personally I didn’t mind the art/aesthetics and overall tone “downgrade”. To me it was just another good and solid entry. And I love the little code entry “merry” to give the mini games all Christmas themed 🎄

[@davidklein8608]

I personally liked the tone of DKC3; it felt kinda like a Scooby Doo episode. It starts out in a safe space like a vacation and then slowly builds up the tension. It also had a great mix of comedy and scary. The Kongs were also balanced well in this game. Kiddy was designed for offense with his roll attack, holding a barrel like a shield, and ability to stomp more enemies. Dixie was more mobile with her hair twirl and faster acceleration.

[@evansphenomenal]

It's my second favourite of the three. First being the second. The Lost World in the second game is really hard, which is in a way a good thing, in the third game it isn't hard if compared to the second game, however, the varieties of levels are great, and it has the best variety of boss battles out of the three.

[@michaelhockaday7426]

I find the Lost Levels in DKC 3 to be quite a bit harder than the ones in DKC 2.

[@johnforkner]

I think Dixie is a reskin of Donkey (slower, holds barrels high) but with a helicopter spin. Kiddy holds barrels low like Diddy and also has Diddy's speed.

[@themanwithsauce]

Found this video recently (probably because I'm a resident DKC3 defender so...yeah it was bound to pop up sooner or later) and it's always great to see that the early internet brainrot of "kIdDy KoNg mAKeS DKC3 BAAAAAAAAAAD" get slowly taken down bit by bit. Just wanted to add a few things as they help fill in some blanks. 1) You reference the N64 and point out that the save cave has mario 64 music and wrinkly plays an N64 sometimes, but that is literally why DKC3 was made the way it was made - the A-team at rareware had to go and get started learning the new console and making games for it. For an example - david wise actually did do a few tracks for DKC3 (mostly the tracks for the save cave) but he was working on "Pro Am 64" which later became Diddy Kong Racing. A lot of the more senior level designers and programmers were already at work on other titles, so new hires to rare were given the development tools for DKC1 and 2 and told to make DKC3. 2) When talking about the GBA, I'm surprised you didn't mention that the new tracks were mostly done by David Wise. At least, I don't think you mentioned it. I hear a lot of people say the GBA version is just "better" because of that, but I think a mix of the two would make the best DKC3 soundtrack. 3) Kinda going back to #1, but I have a theory that DKC3 is the way it is because of who was mentoring and training the younger developers. Think about it - Rare released only 3D adventure and platformer games on the N64, not 2D. ANd outside of platformers and adventure style games, the rest were still 3-D only. The co-workers of the team making DKC3 were busy making DK64, Banjo Kazooie, Blast Corps, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini. So as this crew is using the tools and assets to make DKC3, they're probably getting taught on how to do "map" design, or even "world" design. My theory is that the open world map, and even some of the more sprawling levels with multiple paths and options, came from these developers cosntantly hearing about how Mario 64 is going to bea game changer and rare's own internal games are looking wilder and wilder. Overall, I keep going back to the idea that DKC3 is the link that connects the 2-D platformers of the SNES to the 3-D platform/adventure games of the N64. It's not "more DKC2", it's its own unique thing and the game is so much more memorable for it.

[@futurewario9591]

I personally like Kiddy Kong

[@SuperCuttyBlackSow]

Me too his cry always made me laugh when I died instead of getting mad lol

[@gooeydude574]

@@SuperCuttyBlackSowI find myself relating to Kiddy because I too am frustrated when I fail

[@alphamoose4385]

He get to much Haye Fer sure

[@StormsparkPegasus]

I think a lot of the reason it had a more underwhelming reception is, the Playstation and N64 were out by then, and people (in the US at least) were being "trained" to think 2D games were "old".

[@DMXrated]

Now that you mention it, I would agree, "Double Trouble" doesn't carry much of a meaning for that game. "Triple Trouble" works for what was Sonic & Tails 2 in Japan, because there were three main villains in that game, whereas here, "double" barely refers to anything, with Kaos being the only known main antagonist for most of the game.

[@Luke-wz4em]

It’s all about the movement. Dkc2 gave both players amazing control. Dkc3 went backwards with kiddy

[@the.bloodless.one1312]

0:49 not true. Eveline composed essentially half of DKC1 also. He music is just as integral to the musical vernacular of the series as Wise’ was, from the beginning. Great vid so far btw! Still watching lol just had to make that correction Kuz people always act like the whole series was Wise except for 3. DKC3 rules! My second fave in the series! 🥰🦍🍌 Edit: ok you mention it after lol

[@squid667]

I have always liked Donkey Kong Country 3. I remember getting it as a christmas present from my dad in 1996. I had no idea that the game even existed at the time, and was very surprised by it. I had the first game and have played it a lot, but I had not tried the second game yet. I remember enjoying the different setting in the third game very much, and I liked the more northern environment. My favorite world of the first game was Vine Valley and this gave me a bit of the same. I also live in a northern country which would probably also influence it. I have always liked forest settings in games (Paramonia in Abe's Oddyssee, Mudomo vaults in Abe's Exoddus, Forest of illusion in Super Mario World and Rocky Pass in Need for speed 3 being some other examples). I later got to try the second game. I found it to be fun, but incredibly difficult. And I was not too fond of the pirate setting. It probably had a little to do with a local childrens franchise centered around a pirate that I was sick and tired of at the time.

[@tylerrumfelt3353]

I like how 3 actually stepped back and wasn’t as fast as 2, added a new depth of difficulty. 2 is untouchable though, just wish 1 was more polished and had less bland levels, the chimp caverns should have been a astec them like 64.

[@markdebruyn1212]

Also i think DKC 1 has way too many bottomless pits

[@therealhardrock]

0:34 Most people seem to absorb everyone else's opinions like the Borg. I wish more people would make up their own minds instead of just blandly absorbing the common consensus.

[@lumsht3968]

Honestly, i like DKC3 as much as DKC2. What I like about DKC3 is that every level has a completely unique gimmick, I also try to do that with my SMBX projects. The levels are also a lot more open and slightly more puzzle based, which i also really like. And for me the only "bad" theme of the soundtrack is the cave theme.

[@Chipss]

Yeah, I feel like level design itself is a matter of preference between the two games. There was a segment where I discussed that but it was cut because of how subjective it really is.

[@KingYoshi93]

I like the one SMBX level on your KZbin channel but you should upload more!

[@Chipss]

@@KingYoshi93 I have quite a bit of SMBX stuff in the works, both for my own projects and others that I’m collaborating on, that will be completed sometime after the release of Evil Side of Nintendo 3.

[@KingYoshi93]

@@Chipss Oh, I was actually replying to LumSht's comment, but I would also really like to see more stuff you made! :)

[@Chipss]

@@KingYoshi93 Oh jeez I’m sorry! Didn’t mean to steal the spotlight like that. My apologies.

[@-1.3.3.7-]

DKC2 > DKC3 > DKC is the real ranking when you exclude personal opinions.

[@rachelwindsor850]

It's because of hero worshiping. That's why people generally dislike it; The idea that DKC3 was made by the "B team" is often brought up, as if that has any bearing on the quality. That's also why haters insist on the music being bad, because it wasn't done by David Wise (even if he did compose a few tracks on DKC3). The whole "people didn't like it becausw the N64 was coming out" is an angle that is completely overdiscussed and mostly irrelevant IMO; Plenty of highly regarded games came out during the SNES' late stage and nobody ever brings up the N64 when discussing them. And no, the N64 in Wrinkly's save cave wasn't some omen placed there by the developers who knew their time was up or whatever, it's just a cute easter egg.

[@TehFoog]

I gotta say, I loved this game when growing up. Absolutely loved it, and I played the Game Boy version to death. It always blew my mind how much people started ragging on it and it's nice to see the game get some more of the credit it deserves.

[@Maxvondabahn]

12:40 , hi , the existense of the N64 wasn,'t that hidden . Sometimes you came to Wrinkley , she said something like : don't tell Cranky about this new Console, otherwise he will play all day . ( if i remember korrectly)

[@aionios1796]

DKC3 is a victim of having released after the birth of N64. Everyone was into 3D gaming (Super Mario 64) already at that time and lacked appreciation for 2D games. :(

[@mashopotatomashopotato8611]

I think it was judged harshly because dkc2 was a masterpiece. If people judged this game as if the other 2 games never existed, they would think differently of dkc3

[@Finngrinder]

DKC 3 is really not much inferior to DKC 2. I think it comes to whatever you played most in your childhood. DKC 1 I only could play at a friend's while I owned 3 from some point. And Country 1 is basically infinitely better if you dimension roll with Diddy and superjump all over the place. Oh, and minecarts, Indy Jones temples, treetops and the ropey ice cave. 3 is a bit cryptic as for where it is headed and kind of experimental. Not a crowd pleaser at all, so refined and interesting though. I love its mills and though this fucking one level manifests it badly, the waterfalls. It brings back factories in more grandiose and it invents the rocket barrel levels from new DKC

[@JJ_5289]

@@Finngrinder I think dkc 3 is close too. They pushed the snes to the limit in terms of visuals and I think it still looks great. Some of the level design is brilliant. Dkc 2 has better music and environments. I enjoy both games

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

Man i think kiddy is way more fun to play than Dixie

[@bluestrife28]

I was just the right age to be a huge fanboy when DKC1 came out. I think a lot contributed to this and you got most of it. IMHO Nintendo’s Rising Sun-esque way of doing business cost us the fans a lot of opportunities for awesome experiences. Their disagreements with Sony, Rare, et al … bleh don’t get me started … plus you have the guys like me who never got to play DKC3 because when Squaresoft broke with Nintendo I followed Final Fantasy right over to Sony…this led to playing some of these games 3000 years later when the originals had been solidified in our gamer memories and who can compete in a gamers mind with our beloved childhood games? That’s just my experience of it. I’ve finally been playing it and yes, Dixie’s haircopter is the Peach’s hover of sleeper abilities that become some of the best. Yeah the music is def giving me a softie, but who could compare to David Wise? Gotta respect all the games as far as I see it, especially the ones caught in the middle of the huge jump from this bit to that bit that occurred during that time.

[@Mrkyleuvkewl]

Makes me want to learn how to mod SNES games so that I could reintegrate David’s GBA soundtrack into the SNES version… and maybe even edit the sprites of the kremlings to look more like machines and cyborgs to match the machine vs nature theme… and change the name.

[@markdebruyn1212]

If you look at the design, the enemie are meant to look like as if they experimented on, as King K.Rool took the monicer of a mad scientist and named himselfBaron K. Roolenstein

[@lullylew9083]

Kids attention spans are short. DKC3 starts kinda weak. The music from the first few levels is good music but very poorly placed and didn't gel together with the context of the levels. I think the new dev team that handled it just took a while to get into their groove and it shows. Stick with it and it's actually excellent apart from Kiddy. No one wants to play as Kiddy.

[@paulsmith8510]

If the enemies were not so monochromatic, I could forgive it. I remember first playing this as a kid and thinking it looked so unnatural and cartoonish, wheew the others look slightly more grounded.

[@Christo_glenn]

Thanks for the ride down memory lane, mate!❤

[@alfredomelgar5620]

Every dkc has it own personality and magic, I think 2>1>3 but is so much closer than people say

[@emcards9919]

I just found your channel and I really enjoyed this video! Subbed! Looking forward to more content!

[@Flavorful_Chunt]

It’s not a bad game, it just feels like something that had its budget significantly cut after it began production. No idea if that’s the case, but it just feels that way. DKC trilogy forever though.

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

Strange how I just finished a game and now there's an influx of new content about it appearing. A lets play, review, and a pack that replaces the game's OST with a revamped version of the GBA one nearling completion. Anyways I really liked the video, as someone who tried to love the game but still ended up enjoying 2 more I still feel like there is a lot to appreciate about DKC3. In my mind DKC 3 is blind creativity, the game has some really cool ideas but a good chunk of them don't really get refined and polished enough to really be that enjoyable. For me this is some of the stage gimmicks like the falling waterfall Barrels, those penguins, and Kiddy Kong and Dixie Kong's balancing compared to Diddy and Dixie. When it's fun, its really fun, when it isn't it can be a little bland and needlessly frustrating.

[@Chipss]

I didn’t know about that pack! Will definitely have to check it out.

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

@@Chipss Look up Drawn&Quartered on KZbin they have been making it for awhile now and have been sharing each track on KZbin as they finish them. They are golden and top even some of my favorite DKC3 tracks.

[@CookieThug]

best game ever made, underrated and overhated

[@fullmetalgamer6062]

I like DKC 3, but my least favorite out of the trilogy. The bonus stages are the strongest aspects of the game. I would've liked it better if Dixie teamed up with Donkey Kong to save Diddy. It's just weird that the title character is only playable in 1 game out of the trilogy.

[@chon.digital]

conclusion: monkes r awesome

[@Chipss]

SO TRUE!!!

[@Lore_XiV69]

Anf then DK 64 came and killed the franchise forever, that even both Wii DK Returns couldnt recover

[@dennerrubio8237]

I like DKC3 way more than DKC1, I don't get why people hate this game.

[@AaronVillalobos]

dude this channel is awesome!!! never played this game but i always forgot it existed lol

[@Packers4Evar12]

DKC 3 is the best of the DKC trilogy, and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise

[@Tronnus]

Welp; someone saw Scott the Woz and I like it. I leave a sub here! . . . My take on why people who grew up with DKC 1 & 2 dislike 3 is simple that it isn't as griddy, that the bad moments were memorable bad and that people could not play as DK himself but were stuck with Kiddy Kong and NO ONE liked Kiddy Kong back in the day simply because of his design with that baby blue pajamas. We talk about a time it which it was cool to be edgy and grunge but here we have a baby monkey whos feet do not fully fit into his pants.

[@alphamoose4385]

Three couldnt top two so im glad they went a different direction.

[@therealhardrock]

2:17 Critical consensus is also not an objective measure of something's overall quality.

[@TrippyCommentaries]

Awesome video 👍

[@Ronald_Ruck]

I see why people say it might be the weakest in the trilogy. But for it's own it is still a super good game I liked how each level is even more outstanding than in DKC 2.

[@bestintheworld4850]

I am astonished by how much DKC2 sold less than DKC1, because it is my favorite game of all time, but I also see the difficulty was much higher so people would naturally prefer the first one, like now most games are easy and most mobile games too, people enjoy easy unfortunately.

[@michaelhockaday7426]

It's common for sequels not to sell as well as the originals.

[@Favk21]

Yeah, it didn't surpass DKC2 but held bar high regardless. I never quite understood why the discussion around this game only homes around it's weak points. In most areas it surpassed DKC1.

[@Issachar-northern-kingdom]

I was thrown off by not seeing an open ocean or DK Island

[@Chipss]

It was definitely a drastic change, which I do believe the series needed, but maybe they took it in a different direction than most fans wanted…

[@therealhardrock]

Most people have purely emotional reactions to things and make up logical-sounding reasons to rationalize them.

[@lalocompi]

If the n64 had never existed and I had been waiting for DKC4 to come out, I would have expected DKC4 to look more like DKC3 than DKC2. There, f you haters.

[@raylewis60]

Yea idk why people hating on this game this one was actually one of my favorites and I like kiddy kong too I think he’s a cool character I hope he returns in a future game

[@SaltyEike]

If someone asked me to play DKC3, I'd be glad to do so.

[@chon.digital]

play dkc3.

[@ashantegray6752]

dude Kiddy Kong is useful for Dixie you knew you need him to take out tougher enemies that dixie can't handle like krumples. I'm not upset with you I just want you to show some respect to my character know he's not the bestest but he's still cool in my opinion.

[@ClintonKE]

I feel they didn't do enough to make Kiddy still ok to play if you lose Dixie. Dk is worse than Diddy overall but his strengths come up more by there being more foes he can handle and his barrel toss is overall better (granted Diddy using them as a shield has its plus quite often). plus while Diddy is better for platforming Diddy isn't packing a float option to make the gap wider. His extra speed and normal jump over Dixie I felt platforming wise easier as well. Kiddie's plus of water skip and taking out one baddie Dixie can't easily (less than Dk who can take out 3 easier than Diddy and one more in GBA) and holding the barrel as a shield means less when Dixie still gets shield affect as well.

[@Rkay421]

DKC 3 was my favorite of the trilogy

[@Lore_XiV69]

DKC 1 is the worst one, DKC3 stands on second, diddy kong will always be the king

[@MakoFGC]

I'm sorry, but the game is in the same level as DKC 1. (In that case: great) I don't know why people mock this game, we all know DKC peaked in 2, but that doesn't mean that DKC 3 is bad

[@armand9199]

The mill levels were bad and clustered right at the start which tends to dominate people's opinion

[@JacobH93]

DKC3 is definitely the worst of the SNES DKC games... but the thing is that isn't saying much. DKC2 is legendary, DKC1 started it all and is also great, DKC3 is still a great game just overshadowed. The timing of its' release and kiddie kong didn't help either.

[@KingNidoYT]

This was a really great video about a really enjoyable game. Good job

[@ClintonKE]

Banana birds were done bad. Playing Simon says 13 times (14 in GBA) is not fun. Dk coins are better here I'll admit but too many of them were pretty lazy with how they were put in. Koin was just out in the open most of the time with a barrel to bust him open next to him. Animal pals weren't mixed. Squitter wasnt used enough. Parry is just dkc1 sqwaks but worse. Ellie is great in the level where you have to stay out of the water but most of the time I'd rather not use her. Which is a shame because she is a elephant. A animal powerhouse. Kiddy Kong was done dirty. Biggest gap in partner power in the series. It isnt even his looks that is the issue. Dk isn't as fast or jumps as well as Diddy but he can actually throw barrels (granted Diddy using em as a shield is very useful) and he beats 3/4 Types of enemies a lot easier than Diddy can (armadillo, klump, and krusha. In the gba he can slap the red light/green light foes when they aren't active as well). Kiddie only beats krusha easier. Dixie still gets barrel shield somehow in both games but also how she holds them lets her hit some bosses better. Oh and twirl. Diddy was faster than her and jumped better as well where as Kiddy moves the same as her minus situational stuff like water skip (you'd think that be useful if done right though. Plenty of levels want you to stay outof the water). Kiddy throws Dixie better but having a speed cut when he is holding her (unlike Diddy and Dixie where they at least had walking speed) makes the team up more situational well.

[@evansphenomenal]

Both Diddy and Kiddy hold barrels quite similarly, right?

[@Michaelpatrickwarren]

Love dkc3!!! I think it just got lost as N64 came out around the same time.

[@The_Engineer_Guy]

Awesome Video! Thank you!

[@lucasc2550]

I’ve always loved DK3

[@ethanhobbes3476]

man you need more subscribers

[@Chipss]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@therealhardrock]

0:48 They're not bad at all, why do people think that?

[@claytonoakley8677]

All 3 were great games i think dkc2 is the best and honestly an all time great game. 3 is still a great game and ended a magical trilogy marks the end of the snes and rareware for that matter still had great music amazing grafics and fun to play.

[@Kinoparapino]

Whats the Klaptrap tkremlin called in DKC2? It looks different.

[@Chipss]

Their official name is Klampon

[@aranryan-9440]

About The series, 1 is good but overrated 2 is and forever will be the goat 3 is amazing. Better than 1 in my opinion R is mid. The tikis are all lame TF is decent, and the snowmads are better than the tikis. I like that they actually give good boss encounters

[@ladyaceina]

skyward sword actually IS my favorite zelda

[@mal8rk701]

Bro how is your channel this small? You deserve more subscribers and recognition my guy, since your videos are AMAZING!

[@Chipss]

Thanks a ton! Very glad you enjoyed and there’s plenty more to come.

[@janko1]

i agree

[@albertoray5888]

My favorite DKC

[@miamimagicians]

Best I the friggin trilogy!!!

[@SuperCuttyBlackSow]

I like stilt village on the SNES better much better happy song for a first level

[@Lore_XiV69]

why everyone compares DKC 3 WORST music (the first level) with the best ones from DK 2 and 1...

[@tangy3003]

bro got the KZbinr face

[@corey6541]

I Love all 3 games! Best platformers ever!

[@oliverstanic1724]

Need more subscribers Because you re the best and make better videos than minecraft youtubers Please never leave the internet

[@Chipss]

I think there are plenty of great Minecraft KZbinrs like JeraCraft and Mogswamp, but thank you for the kind words regardless! I really appreciate it.

[@Luciferhelidon]

According to a 2006 interview with the Stamper Bros, Kiddy Kong is a middle aged man with and ABDL fetish

[@ricardocantoral7672]

I think DKC 3 is the weakest of the trilogy but it's not even close to being a poor game.

[@Luciferhelidon]

Sometimes my first pee of the morning is a little bit brown