Mass Effect: Confrontation with Saren

[@Charles-e4x]

I like the little pauses in between Shepard and Saren. Not sure if it was intentional, but it gave me the impression that Saren didn't actually believe what he was saying and had to think about what to say.

[@noisemarine561]

Saren should have been in the ending... His choice was the green one if you think about it.

[@kjdskgj]

Kawaii Atlas Saren = green, Illusive Man = blue, Captain Anderson = red

[@TheSpawnfan]

kjdskgj yes

[@noisemarine561]

Agreed!!!!!!!!!

[@gronndar]

+Kawaii Atlas Saren was right all along! Why did we try to stop him?

[@noisemarine561]

Well cause first of all, it's a gateway to indoctrination.

[@stewardo]

holy fuck this scene/mission the first time I played.. will never be matched

[@builder396]

I get why people like Saren as the antagonist so much. He is an equal to Shepard, the flipside of a coin. Only set apart by the side they are on, the way they think civilization should head. Submission or resistance. Also Saren was simply more effectively employed since he was more present and on your mind all the time. I understand, but I also disagree. Saren was ultimately just the agent, the hired gun if you will, of the reapers, the actual villains. If their agent is already your equal, then what is his master? The reapers are even more alien to our perception than the Geth, and even the Geth are hard to understand, making them potentially much more effective than someone like Saren. Take the brief chat with Sovereign. It perfectly conveyed that the reapers were simply beyond our comprehension, not bound by the same laws and principles we take for granted. All the assumptions we would make by subconsciously basing them on how we work dont apply anymore. The Borg on Star Trek were effective for the same reason. The Illusive man never was the villain or antagonist in that sense. He was another way of doing a flipside of Shepard, but he was just another player in the game, having different ambitions and methods than Shepard, but ultimately ending as a shade of grey. Nonetheless he was somewhat intriguing, but him becoming indoctrinated in ME3 so obviously ruined him quite a bit. Back to the reapers, Sovereigns appearances were truly great. The problem most people will see is that Harbinger did not deliver on that anymore. He was constantly making his presence known to a degree that didnt have any practical purpose other than taunting, which greatly diminished his "alienness" and made him seem more like 70s era idiot type villain who constantly announces his plans like he wants to be stopped. We get it, you can possess your Collector drones. So what? Quit bragging and actually do something. Harbingers monologues didnt add anything, didnt give any new insights and simply cast aside any doubt that the Collectors might be agents of the reapers. It would have served the ominous aura of the reapers a lot better if Harbinger had simply shut up and stayed in the background, and the reapers would have remained the incomprehensible unknown that they were in ME1. We know the reapers are there, whether Harbinger reminds us or not. We know the clock is ticking. And if we know less about what comes then the alarm goes off the more tense things are. ME3 didnt change that much, except that the reapers arrived and started their harvest, but at the same time were paradoxically ineffective at it and Harbinger in the end just refusing to kill Shepard in front of his nose on the ground without cover was just stupid. The reapers had much more potential than this. Its a shame to see it wasted.

[@djrocksgaming]

builder396 The reapers were easy to comprehend, we just didn't have enough information to understand their motives. Them trying to make themselves incomprehensible is just psychological warfare, making their enemies feel weak against the reapers, as if the reapers are some divine force. Once you learn more information about them their facade fades away and they're appearance no longer has any sort of effect except for those that do not know. That's one of the reasons why Shepard is immune to indoctrination. You have to allow players to learn more about the enemy eventually, you can't keep it a secret just to have drama.

[@ChrisRayGun]

Don't you spak ill of Garrus!!

[@exile9024]

Saren should have been in all three of the Games he was a much better antagonist than the illusive man and they could have spun a very interesting theme of loyalty ....loyalty to peace or loyalty to overwhelming power...sacerfice or conquer...anyhow im still up for a standalone prequal with Saren set during or shortly after the first contact war where we could see Saren begin his Decent into being a Rogue Specter.

[@DorianMichaelsIII]

I can honestly say, that Saren was the ONLY villain in ALL of Mass Effect that I ever, really and truly, *hated*, found *absolutely and totally LOATHSOME*, in EVERY respect. He was a complete and utter son-of-a-bitch, even BEFORE he got pulled into Sovereign's web (read some of the Mass Effect novels to see what I mean; it is *directly* Saren's fault, and NO ONE ELSE'S, that Captain Anderson was NOT the first human Spectre). Though it was close, I didn't hate The Illusive Prick as much as I did Shithead Asshole-ius here. Yeah, he was indoctrinated, sure, but that doesn't make up for the fact that he was about damn near just as bad WITHOUT being indoctrinated as he was BEING so.

[@freddirak3033]

DorianMichaelsIII I guess he messed up Anderson's dreams.

[@protonjones54]

They need to remake this game, an anniversary edition!

[@protonjones54]

***** Changes like improved graphics, improved character animations (no dead pan expressions & robotic blobs of tissue responding to my voice options), maybe improved Normandy exploration missions (using the Mako was one of the best parts of the game, it deserves some upgrades), improved audio quality, basically at least everything 343 did with the Halo 2 remaster, at the bare minimum. Your ideas too.

[@darkpaladin.]

***** I wish they could implement a face scan feature, I cant seem to get S hepard to look nothing like me.

[@protonjones54]

Nevin Rhymer Yes, something that can implement Kinect's camera, something like what we got from Rainbow Six Vegas 2, where we can use a Vision Cam to make our own face on a character.

[@spedman56]

Halo got an anniversary edition. Mass Effect deserves one to

[@protonjones54]

Spencer West Good idea. I mentioned that too, in my first reply.

[@PassiveSmoking]

Indoctrination can be subtle enough that the subject doesn't even realise it's happening. By the way I'm totally not Indoctrinated brah

[@SomeRandomYTer]

I love the heavy military-esque sound of Saren's walk when he first lands here

[@sarenarterius1783]

Sovereign did this for me. Imagine what the Reapers can do for you, for all of us. If only we learn to work with them.

[@Birthnote]

Saren entered the scene like a BOSS.

[@strangejourneys8874]

saren is a badass

[@volo7]

although i loved TEM, his character fell short personally when compared to the books... Saren had much more potential as a villain

[@poop32ify]

put captions on and saren say's "of course unsalted nuts"

[@ShadowlessFist]

I really wish they had kept the depth of the first game, I really liked the different armours,guns and ammo types. Made kitting your team out much more fun

[@eralie9004]

1:14 3:40 My favourite

[@AshiiX6]

@GreyOverlord74 Because she's my favourite character in the entire Mass Effect Universe. That's why.

[@robertbrown3064]

I want a complete remake of the Mass Effect trilogy! It would have to really be done right, though. Not something like the Halo: Anniversary editions, but an actual from the ground up rewrite. Same story, same voice actors (if they can get them), but more content, more polish, and a more satisfying ending. Something that honors and builds upon what is already there, not replaces it. The Bioware execs would have to get off the dev's backs for a release date and just keep the money flowing. Let them make the trilogy we always wanted, the one such an amazing story deserves. We didn't get it the first go-round. It was almost, but not quite, so I feel a remake is justified. I know I speak for many people when I say I'd be willing to shell out some serious cash for such a remake. Update the graphics, physics, and NPC AI. Fix the damn bugs already. Listen to the community and address their concerns with the original trilogy. Make the gameplay consistent across all 3 games. I'm looking at you, ME1's infinite ammo and repetitive Mako assignments. Double the singleplayer campaign content with new missions, assignments, cutscenes, squadmates, conversations, codex entries, clusters and systems, and explorable planets. Even players who've been through the trilogy half a dozen times should feel overwhelmed at the sheer depth, complexity, and beauty of the universe they've once again stepped into. Give us more dialogue options while hanging out on the Normandy, let the characters grow in new and varied directions, and feel more alive. Expand the maps in exporable locations like the Citadel and Omega with more places to see, things to do, even some places that don't necessarily advance the plot but deepen the level of immersion. I want to walk into a bar and be able to hear 10 different conversations about anything from how much the Blasto sequel sucked to a Turian pitching the idea for a joint-species Lacrosse league. The galaxy is a big place, let us see what it has to offer. But most of all, redo the ending to ME3. Imagine if it was done right, if we had more than a few different flavors of the same ending, but a plethora of different outcomes, each with a long and highly polished cutscene that gives the player real closure, even if the choices they made turn the story into a tragedy. We got a feel for this kind of REAL consequential decision making with ME2, but the potential was so much greater with ME3. What an incentive to go back and get it right, to see your favorite characters survive! The Suicide Mission was done so well. ME3's ending should have been even better, with the stakes so much higher.

[@anthonymoonglade3147]

Definitely. Nihlus would've gone through good character development regarding the betrayal of his old mentor, Saren. Hell, Jenkins could've lived and been the one to stay bhind to guard the bomb.

[@Heyoupally]

04:20 , when he throws away his weapon, that's the best part.

[@1Harbinger1]

When he dies doesn't matter, His death is inevitable

[@AshiiX6]

@GreyOverlord74 It's okay. It's a shame that we can't save both Ashley and Kaidan. Instead of it I need to choose one of them. I'd rather leave Tali or Garrus on Virmire.

[@MooVeeMan]

0:20 - Saren, not giving a fuck.

[@nihluskryik8948]

I'm glad you agree, human. So...uh...sorry about the Shanxi incident. Wanna be a spectre?

[@sarenarterius628]

Yes. Yes you are.

[@JustShin11]

that's a 1st i heard someone say they would rather leave anyone else behind on virmire other than ashley lol

[@sarenarterius1700]

Why, thank you.

[@Birthnote]

1:01 to 1:15 If only Saren lived to see ME2.

[@GreyOverlord74]

@AshiiX6 Oh... sorry bout that, Ashley is pretty cool

[@garrusvakarian6548]

Oh, you must be VI.

[@sarenarterius1783]

Yes, I am.

[@garrusvakarian6548]

Am I your little dirty secret?

[@anthonymoonglade3147]

WHy them instead of Ashley or Kaidan?

[@nihluskryik8948]

Garrus and Tali are much better characters, I agree. I still think I should have been a party member!

[@1Harbinger1]

I dont know why Soveriegn trusted that doomed turian!

[@garrusvakarian6548]

Indeed.

[@GreyOverlord74]

Why not sacrifice Ashley? Is she a romance to your Shepard, or are you just after the achievement?

[@DanaZanerman]

just look at the video. it is really good

[@sushles]

Chillax bro.

[@kingofshitland]

ofcourse unsalted nuts intented to disrupt establishments, lol audio transcripts

[@anthonymoonglade3147]

Meh, I don't like Kaidan and Ashley, but I like Garrus and Tali. Why don't you like the latter two?

[@sarenarterius8802]

I was afraid you wouldn't make it intime.

[@DanaZanerman]

Why the hell my graphics are sucking ass i set all of them to high - ultra high but they are still sucking ass :(

[@velitripl9813]

Napisy po polsku :)

[@JustShin11]

i love the mass effect trilogy even if the ending sucks still my favorite series of games so far all hail shepard lol

[@KONDZIOREK07]

Gościu "lol'ował", bo "gethy" byłoby faktycznie angielskim zdrobnieniem od słowa "geth" ;] (wiem, Sherlock ze mnie po prostu ;p)

[@SarenArielle]

Yeasss

[@ElmortoSen]

then idk

[@0oStaub]

Why without a reason? I laughed too and I'm not making fun of the Polish language just by laughing about this. It's actually funny because by adding the y it sounds like an adjective.

[@AshiiX6]

You're* Be a good boy and stop insulting others.

[@ElmortoSen]

because this game is old.

[@kingofshitland]

you saved Ashley, are you f'in kidding me

[@AshiiX6]

Not everyone likes them. For me they're just " meh ". I really wouldn't mind to leave them on Virmire. But hey, Tali and Garrus are still more interesting than Liara.

[@AshiiX6]

Because I don't like Tali and Garrus really much and like both Ash and Kaidan, so.. Here's your answer.

[@MrMartinBunny]

not my love interest! D:

[@AshiiX6]

Because I hate Liara :P