Playlist: • Mass Effect Story Cuts... Mass Effect Trilogy Citadel Council Paragon All Scenes Complete from Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3.
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@the_infinexos2 жыл бұрын
This is why Shepard should have been wearing a dashcam on his armor. Majority of the reason the Council didn't believe him was that nothing he did or heard was ever recorded
@b1acksteve2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the council wants some evidence to back up our claims and 95% of the time we have none or conventantly the evidence stops existing, like the VI on Illos. People like to forget that when we actually bring them Tali's evidence they DO believe us. Hell ME1 taught them not to just blindly believe everything one of thier Spectres say.
@deontaeavila3514 Жыл бұрын
True
@deontaeavila3514 Жыл бұрын
But recordings can be deep faked, in fact, in mass effect 3 there were a few times where the possibility of a recording being a deep fake was mentioned.
@samuelw43806 ай бұрын
The Council believed him, they knew Reapers were real after ME1, but they didn't have a plan on how to stop them even in ME3. So, they just decided to keep this information in secret because Galaxy needed a stability and besides, Shepard didn't specify when Reapers are gonna attack. The council thought they had decades or centuries to prepare, because Sovereign failed at activating Citadel Mass Relay and bringing his friends in, but later writers forgot about this and Reapers needed like 3 years to come back. Honestly, Bioware themself didn't know what to do with the Reapers. In ME1 they needed Citadel to come into Milky Way, then in ME2 they could just use the Alpha Relay, but in ME3 they just roll in without use of Mass Relay.
@Eye_Of_Odin9782 күн бұрын
@@samuelw4380 "i DoNt ThINk tHe WrItErS KneW wHaT tO Do wItH thE ReaPErS" Or maybe you just weren't paying close enough attention or you're just generally too lowbrow and uneducated to understand it? You know, the much more LIKELY scenarios. It was stated that they didn't "need the Citadel" to get to the Milky Way. The Citadel was just Sovereign's way of taking out the galactic government without a fight prior to the rest of the Reapers arriving, you know, kinda like a VANGUARD of a FLEET. Its ALMOST like they mentioned that Sovereign was the Vanguard of the Reapers several times (because they did) Oh yeah and the only reason why his plan failed was because the Keepers had been re-programmed by the last surviving Protheans in the last cycle, so Sovereign had to interface manually with the Citadel to control it, leaving him open to counter-attack by the Alliance Fleet. As for the Alpha Relay, that was pretty much just the shortcut for the rest of the Reapers to jump into the galaxy quicker than with standard FTL drives, which had already been shown in the trilogy to exist. How do you think the Normandy gets from system to system when there isn't a Mass Relay? Exactly, by a slower FTL drive on their ship. That's why destroying the Alpha Relay was key to slowing down the Reapers. It forced them to traverse dark space with FTL drives alone, extending their voyage by nearly two years. I'm all for pointing out plotholes, but this is just grasping at straws on your part tbh.
@doritoarmy10264 жыл бұрын
Saren: kills Shepard in front of the council The council: we have found no evidence of saren being guilty of treason
@dasbanhammer4 жыл бұрын
- Oh Commander, there are evil machines attacking our homeworlds, could you please help us? - I actually came here to ask for your help on Earth. Hadn't I warned you since 2183? - Ah yes, 'Reapers'. BTW, we aren't going to help you. So, will you help us?
@Lajos_Kelemen2 жыл бұрын
It was always dumbfounding how Cole’s testimony (the dockworker at Eden Prime) was dismissed by the Council. Traumatized or not, the fact he saw two turians, one calling the other Saren who shot the other in the back, is a bit too much info to be considered as rambling? Hell, he could’ve prob ID Saren if given the chance, no way he couldn’t recognize him with all those tubes sticking out of him.
@brendankelly26532 жыл бұрын
@@Lajos_Kelemen I always found it odd, that the Council didn't find a cyborg looking Turian a wee bit suspicious. Like he looked like a normal Turian with his big glowing blue eyes 😄
@whitewolf7454 Жыл бұрын
@@Lajos_KelemenI think you mean Powell. Cole was the guy in that building with two others. Shouldn’t the fact that this dockworker (Powell) said Saren’s name be compelling evidence? Let’s forget him stating the backstabbing etc, the fact he mentioned a name (Saren) he shouldn’t know, should be pretty damning. I get it’s not enough evidence to get him disbarred, but surely it’s enough to extend the investigation.
@themoonlitquill5 ай бұрын
@@Lajos_KelemenThat's what I've been saying for ages!! Spectres are covert, black ops style commandos. Everything they do is classified, so how the hell does a human colonist on a human colony planet know about a TURIAN Spectre killing another Turian on his planet, right in front of him all whilst commanding an army of Geth? By the Spectre code, that dockworker never should have known Saren was there, especially not his name. The Council were idiots from the start. Stupidity bathed in politics and bureaucracy to shield any onlookers from seeing just how stupid, apathetic, reckless, and careless the council actually is.
@brandongalvan66035 жыл бұрын
I like how we have to jump through hoops and over hurdles just to get shat on by the Council while Aria has Councilor Tevos on goddamn speed-dial.
@KAlexanderTheGreat4 жыл бұрын
What's Aria's one rule?
@Vogalos4 жыл бұрын
@@KAlexanderTheGreat Don't fuck with Aria
@Vogalos4 жыл бұрын
@@hippopotamushelmet Of course you can!
@knightsotl7964 жыл бұрын
@@Vogalos Tell that to Mordin
@Glamuel4 жыл бұрын
Fredrik Noresund Or Wrex 🤷🏼♂️
@WillieManga2 жыл бұрын
"We mistrusted Shepard before and it did not help us." May I just point out how that is THE most satisfying conclusion the Council has made in Shepard's career? It really does pay off to keep being nice to them.
@sekai9906 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's unfortunate that they only say that when on the verge of death
@harbingerscousin59966 жыл бұрын
48:47 Full Cerberus armor, gun pointed at council, and sabotages elevator "I can explain this, Kaidan" Gonna need a hell of a lot of explaining there
@HiopX5 жыл бұрын
Never understood why you couldn't repaint your armor
@AndrevusWhitetail5 жыл бұрын
@@HiopX You can, just not special armor sets like Terminus, Cerberus, Collector, and so on. Armor you put together piece by piece is repaintable.
@roguedocsgameplay98645 жыл бұрын
Ashley would be better
@em.47745 жыл бұрын
Padzi did a funny comic about that situation on deviantart awhile back.
@TheArtofUTube4 жыл бұрын
Should of been extra dialogue if you were wearing the Cerberus armor.
@_MaZTeR_6 жыл бұрын
The council won't believe the Reapers are real even if Harbinger and his buddies are flying right in front of the Citadel
@bru93835 жыл бұрын
They'll just be flying right out their window and they'll say: "What did those guys pour into my drink?"
@Lajos_Kelemen5 жыл бұрын
You know I thought a lot about killing these morons, their constant denial of the Reapers, and especially in ME3 when "I TOLD YOU SO", but I just can't roll with a human-led or worse an all-human council. We're supposed to be allies, not tyrants. Humanity already established a rather impressive influence in the galaxy, especially being the newest species in Citadel politics, overthrowing the council and establishing complete galactical dominance just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there are quite a few species who wouldn't like that.
@millymolly674 жыл бұрын
council wouldnt understand reapers if harbinger and sovereign did the waltz in front of the council tower
@Dark_Voice3 жыл бұрын
Obviously, they are just Geth Dreadnaughts that just wanna visit the Citadel in peace.
@TheRepty8184 жыл бұрын
Mass Effect 2 Council: The Reapers aren't real, it's a conspiracy theory. Mass Effect 3 Council: Why didn't anyone warn us about the Reapers?!?!
@spartin001full3 жыл бұрын
Shepherd: I KEPT WARNING YOU!!!!
@Choshako Жыл бұрын
Mass Effect 3 Council: We didn't listen! W-We didn't listen!
@TheVergile6 жыл бұрын
"he no longer has the rights and resources of the spectre" - oh so its just the ressources of the geth, one of the most powerful parties in known space, as well as his vast personal fortune and also the support of a Matriarch, able to field a number of pwerful and highly trained troops and influence over many friends in positions of power. Yeah. What can he do?
@Siegberg915 жыл бұрын
Spectre resources seem Still be underfounded you dont recive any kind of money or resources for free from them so everything saren had was its own
@justjoking52523 жыл бұрын
Shepard 1 | Intergalactic Stooges 0
@spartin001full3 жыл бұрын
@@justjoking5252 More like Shepherd 850 Intergalactic Stooges -567.
@B-rex3952 жыл бұрын
Not to mention a GODDAM REAPER!!!
@haydennoble9253Ай бұрын
It seems like all the Council supplies the Spectres with is legal immunity. It makes me think that they don’t want any control over their agents. But they have proof that the concept can work with what they modeled it after: STG. Fuck, they didn’t even copy the salarian’s homework well. I love mass effect.
@egeorgiades933 жыл бұрын
Let’s all agree that The Turian Councilor had the biggest shift in character. In 1, he was ready to shit in your food the moment you spoke but in 3 he’s the first to tell you how you can get his support and assistance.
@rogerroger237710 ай бұрын
while the asari and salarian had a low performance out becoming stupid, the scene of the asari counselor allowing the aria was stressful, asari counselor that corrupt b1tch
@Horny_Fruit_Flies10 ай бұрын
No, let's not all agree. I reject this whitewashing of that cockroach. He acted like all the other councilors - a self-interested smug rat who only became concerned in "assisting you" (blackmailing you into saving his garbage planet first before helping Earth) when Palaven started getting blasted. Same thing the Asari councilor did. Came crawling to you the minute Thessia was in danger. The Salarian would have done the same. I'm sure it's a great relief to all the 5 million turians that get fried per day on Palaven that their councilor had a "change of heart" after 3 years of ignoring warnings. All the councilors should be put in front of a firing squad for gross negligence and incompetence.
@williamkerfoot803910 ай бұрын
I can't agree. He definitely had some anti-human sentiments in the first game and was the most dismissive and non diplomatic of the councilors. His change in ME3 felt more like they tried to sweep these sentiments under the rug rather than properly addressing them.
@fistan54479 ай бұрын
he has a practical mindset i think. And i think he might've had military experience during Turian-Human war, as his anger and distaste against humans seem personal. By 3rd game he'd have known everything Shepard fought for, everything he warned them about was real, and if anybody was gonna change the tide it'd be him. He knew unlike other council members they cannot stop reapers alone, they have to unite. Again, its head canon, but Turians being a militaristic culture, understanding how war works, and his earlier unreasonable attitude can easily be explained by him serving during the war then becoming the councilor.
@AHappyBlackGuy8 ай бұрын
Turians are a military race so I’m sure even he understood that everyone needs to band together to defeat the Reapers
@masterbison89575 жыл бұрын
28:23 Basically this:Asari councillor:"We don't think you're a liar,Commander." Shepard:"Well,good." Asari councillor:"We just think you're batshit insane." Shepard:".................."
@Siegberg915 жыл бұрын
Says the leadership of a race with a functioning prothean ai who knew all of this will happen
@Zerus15173 жыл бұрын
@@Siegberg91 damn I forgot about that they literally knew this was coming and did nothing but give into lust and greed
@Hearty11003 жыл бұрын
@@Siegberg91 Forgot about that. Asari are really dumb for being so full of potential
@Dark_Voice3 жыл бұрын
I would wanna know if Tevos knew about the beacon or if she was just informed when she told Shepard. (Therefore being just as in the dark as Shepard.)
@212mochaman3 жыл бұрын
@@Dark_Voice they obviously arent born a councillor. Something tells me you'd have to be a politician at some point and literally all of them admit they know whats at the temlle of athame
@tombardsley30815 жыл бұрын
12:21 the Turian councillor is so frustrating. He always finds the negatives in what you do with the Queen. He implies Shepard is racist if you kill the queen and then thinks it was a bad idea if you release the queen
@QueenofSilence1014 жыл бұрын
The Council is fearful of what you've done if you release the Rachni queen, and scornful if you kill her. You can't win.
@Comintern19194 жыл бұрын
Sadly that is actually realistic. There are too many people in Real Life that really are like that.
@terrypennington25194 жыл бұрын
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
@victoriasharpe16613 жыл бұрын
He's not just frustrating in the rachni mission. He's a downright dick the whole way through
@tombardsley30813 жыл бұрын
@@victoriasharpe1661 he would be the only reason I would kill the council at the end of ME1. Most of the time I save them cos its good to say "I told you so " to them when ME3 comes around and the reapers are real
@jomnix6 жыл бұрын
They only believed that the Reapers were real when their own homeworld fell...
@strangerakari28366 жыл бұрын
>Palaven is burning >Ah yes, "Reapers"
@ladyjoker68975 жыл бұрын
Indeed XD
@loudman125 жыл бұрын
Stranger Akari would have been great if earth was not attacked straight away and the Turians rep called Shepard and asked for help. Shepard replies “ ah yes reapers , we have dismissed that claim” as a renegade interior :)
@kaiserc24715 жыл бұрын
Love the thane scene, a dying drell takes on a cyber enhanced ninja and pretty much holds his own. Thane is such a baller, yo.
@HexManiac-nf1yg4 жыл бұрын
If only he was healthy. He might have able to kill that ninja. Easily my least favorite character in 3
@JA93394 жыл бұрын
Hex Dio thane would have destroyed that pathetic assassin
@kaiserc24714 жыл бұрын
@@JA9339 Bionic bitchslap!
@andrewp.82783 жыл бұрын
i hate that scene, because it is full of cliches and stupid moves, including everyone waiting while they fight one on one, and, the best part - when Thane, armed with a ranged weapon instead of keeping distance runs towards kai leng (who is armed with a melee weapon, lol)
@kaiserc24713 жыл бұрын
@@andrewp.8278 everyone is entitled to their opinions.
@Nosttromo4 жыл бұрын
1:54 we are here to investigate saren's involvement on the geth attack on eden prime saren, were you involved on the attack? nah thank you saren. this can only mean he isn't involved. have a good day
@kalbearts2373 жыл бұрын
its not even a "Nah" either but a slight n a
@Choshako Жыл бұрын
Saren: I have done nothing wrong, in my life, ever. Council: We know this, and we love you.
@ryanc55724 жыл бұрын
"I'm sick of this council and it's anti-human bull-" hahaha, best line of Udina.
@maksymilianziele28 Жыл бұрын
The moment you start to like Udina before his true colors slowly reveal themselves after Spectre Ceremony, Therum, Feros, Noveria and finally Virmire.
@tristanfaulkner60035 жыл бұрын
South Park's thing on Manbearpig reminded me of the council "There is no evidence that Manbearpig is real," "Look, it's right behind you!" "Ok, so Manbearpig is real. What do you want us to do about it huh? What can we do that will make any difference now?"
@harmonicpsyche83133 жыл бұрын
just like manbearpig's inspiration, real politicians refusing to do anything about climate change
@B-rex3952 жыл бұрын
@@harmonicpsyche8313 exactly. Doing nothing about a potential apocalyptic event until it’s too late.
@KopperNeoman6 ай бұрын
@@harmonicpsyche8313Don't worry. The climate scientists in their private jets will tell you to stop growing food and owning cars.
@nikik55675 жыл бұрын
Also I love how in mass effect 1 they act like the terminus systems is this unified empire but it’s just a collection of lawless worlds, there wouldn’t have been a war if they sent a fleet, they just chose not to
@solaireastora53943 жыл бұрын
I know this is a year old comment but fuck it, it would unite the terminus systems with a common cause and the criminals there would help them to keep business there going, it would be nasty for both sides and war is bad for business long term
@DantesInferno963 жыл бұрын
True tbh. The leadership was so fucked. Blood Pack, blue sins and eclipse were all fighting each other. Hell they reunited temporarily just to take down Garrus who along with his squad managed to do significant damage to their trade routes. The council was just lazy.
@silver_desperado4 жыл бұрын
I hated when the council finally acknowledges the reapers and then they still don’t want to help you in the slightest beyond restoring your specter status. Like at that point who cares?
@chatterycasque9594 Жыл бұрын
Sparatus is the one to step up first - the first to openly support the summit and the only one willing to ally with Earth. As much of an asshole as he is in the first two games, he’s still some of the biggest help you get when the galaxy starts to crumble.
@williamkerfoot803910 ай бұрын
Not to mention that the writers don't make your Spectre status mean $hit, really.
@themoonlitquill5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the whole "upholding your Spectre Status" was meant to infer how out-of-touch the council is regarding the dire implications beyond the Citadel's nebula. They're still denying anything if note is going on at that point; even Sparatus.
@albatross7566 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first played Mass Effect. I felt really bad when the council died. I thought of maybe restarting to save them. Then Mass Effect 2 came out and they were still jerks. Suddenly I didn’t feel bad anymore.
@dablotte92006 жыл бұрын
Albatross same! I was sort of mad at myself for not saving them but one of my friends told me about 2 before I bought it and I wasn't really mad anymore xD
@crownregis5 жыл бұрын
And then in 3 its better to keep them alive even though they're total asshat politicians
@ryanc55724 жыл бұрын
@CommandoDude Tevos says something like "We were wrong to mistrust Shepard before" in 3, so there is that.
@MrJordwalk4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanc5572 They also sanction the partnership with Cerberus as a Spec-Op, in gratitude for their lives.
@slenderminion2893 жыл бұрын
After all these years, the Reapers being dismissed as a mere fantasy after a living Reaper literally showed up at their doorstep is still one of the stupidest things i've ever heard.
@assordante22059 ай бұрын
The reapers literally left no trace of themselves after the last harvest. Theres more prothean artifacts lying around than the blown off claw of a reaper. They have no reason to believe. With all of their rechnogical advancements and mapping out the entire galaxy (which is still massive in scope, millions of light years in between planets, let alone stars).
@Mikeh20772 жыл бұрын
“We’ve mistrusted Shepard before and it did not help us.” The Asari councilor is the only one with any sense of reason in this trilogy. Enough for me to save the council each time.
@B-rex3952 жыл бұрын
Wow. Only one councilor seems to get it….. and it took her three whole games!
@Mikeh20772 жыл бұрын
@@B-rex395 Better late than never. 🤷🏻
@whitewolf7454 Жыл бұрын
All the council are a pain in Shep’s a**. The Turian is pretty racist in ME1 criticising your every decision regardless of what you do. For example he will chastise you for saving the Rachni, and will do the same if you kill them. Decent in 3 but too little to late for me to like him. The Salarian I think is the most sensible, I think, as I can’t remember anything derogatory he did. Though the Dalatrass is a moron who can’t see how tough calls need to be made because of the Reaper threat. Sure curing the genophage could eventually cause another Krogan rebellion, but not having the support of them is severely weakening the Galaxy against a threat that quite clearly needs every fu**ing race or asset fighting it. Even then it’s a big IF in regards to defeating this threat. Worry about the Krogan after you’ve survived the biggest threat you and the Galaxy have ever faced. The Asari one is ok, but is completely idiotic in 3. She refuses to help in the war and only helps when her whole planet and race are owned by the Reapers. Not to mention the Asari hid a Prothean artefact, keeping it for themselves (illegal iirc) so that they would have an advantage over all the other races. What did she or the Asari expect, that they could stay out of it and the Reapers would leave them alone. The Turian’s have the strongest military and yet were getting decimated by the Reapers. They can’t defend their planet effectively like the Humans, Turian’s and Krogan, so they should of joined the alliance asap. The Quarians shouldn’t be having a war with Geth in the middle of an immensely bigger war. Luckily for everyone, Anderson, Shep, and a few others clearly understand the gravity of the situation and can put aside differences when faced with something like the Reapers.
@rogerroger237710 ай бұрын
nah, in the 3rd game she was a corrupt b1tch, the turian counselor was wrong and stupid in the 1st but in the 3rd he redeemed himself with us
@assordante22059 ай бұрын
She didn't join in the diplomatic meeting because krogans would be there.
@basedbattledroid3507 Жыл бұрын
After a while I start to feel like the Turians, Asari and Salarians just dropped their three most insufferable people on the council so they wouldn't have to deal with them and now Udina's presence makes much more sense
@rogerroger237710 ай бұрын
this actually makes a lot of sense lol
@ariyapol11116 жыл бұрын
Councilor Tevos is hot af
@joezilla295 жыл бұрын
Points off for attitude.
@hyperum78625 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Joker say this at some point? When talking with EDI? I can't find a video online, but I swear I heard him say it.
@theknitby4 жыл бұрын
Overstatement.
@HegoDamaskII4 жыл бұрын
Irissa is better
@GenericUsername-qp1ww4 жыл бұрын
she's just another asari. They all look pretty much the same.
@buek144 жыл бұрын
I just noticed the Turian Councilor's voice is the same as Nihlus's.
@QueenofSilence1014 жыл бұрын
Both were voiced by Alistair Dunkan.
@MilanTehVillain3 жыл бұрын
& Turian wing Artimec in Mass Effect 3.
@connorboyle25854 жыл бұрын
I hate that we are expected to be mad that they don't agree with us in that first meeting. Of course they don't, most of the galaxy is already suspicious of humanity and in their eyes on the first mission of your observation you not only fail, but the guy evaluating you dies then on top of that you come back and blame it on another guy who not only had no known reason to be there but has won against "false" charges claimed by one of the same people claiming these ones.
@27Bayleefs3 жыл бұрын
True but at the same time they ignored blatant racist comments from Saren, Ignored evidence from an actual eyewitness, and then self righteously berate you after every mission throughout the game. Then to top it all off the fucking morons ground you and almost cause a reaper advantage, then after all of that they still demean you throughout the series. Especially that Turian, he has to be one of the most self righteous jackasses I have ever seen in a game.
@MetalMan406 жыл бұрын
Refusing to believe that Saran was a traitor and refusing to believe that the reapers are real are two reasons why I hate the council. Not only were they proven wrong on both occasions but they also act like a bunch of cowards when there is a battle ahead of them. Damn politics think they know everything.
@donttrytokillme12316 жыл бұрын
Dylan Wilken Yes they were proven wrong on both occasions but they only refused to believe that Saren betrayed the council because there was no evidence to indicate his betrayel (innocent until proven guilty.) As for the reaper I would compare it to Britain and Nazi Germany when Churchill warning about Hitler and Nazi Germany fell on deaf ears simply because they were dealing with other issues like the great depression.
@Dark_Voice3 жыл бұрын
@@donttrytokillme1231 I wouldnt say its Hitler and Nazi Germany. I would say Reapers are like if I said that Lucifer summoned army of fallen angels and wants to whipe out all creations of our Lord, humans included. - Everyone would think I am completely crazy. (Apart from Matriarchs that asked about Reapers on Thessia - the VI would tell them the truth however, I doubt they could understand it without Cypher.)
@RaLoPL6 жыл бұрын
I think that the Asari's councilor (Councilor Tevos) last words are telling something more than they mean . Even if it sems unlikely , she could be the mysterious Benefactor for the Andromeda Initiative . " ... continuity of civilization to consider ... " If you think about it , it actually makes sense . From my little analyse , she's always acting like the " protective mother " just a bit like the Benefactor , and most importantly the Benefactor always has a feminine voice . Councilor Tevos could possibly at the end decide to accelerate the Initiative's departure of the remaining arks , since not all of them departured at the same time . Also , it is highly possible that Councilor Tevos believes Shepard since the beginning , but because she can't allow to break the Council's decisions , she just passively complies and finds the most compromising decisions that satisfies both sides . It's only a theory , or it can just be that the " Benefactor " never existed and is just a poor excuse of the ME:A team because of their laziness ...
@Ridgwaycer6 жыл бұрын
The arks left before Mass Effect 2 though. The timing doesn't quite work.
@RaLoPL6 жыл бұрын
Ridgwaycer nothing in MEA quite works , MEA is pure bullshit so ...
@seandargie81756 жыл бұрын
@Aatroxthe mysterious Benefactor wasn't the asari councilor it was the shadow broker and the shadow broker was thee illusive man when playing me2 for a bit you'll get info on the illusive man he age everything the mysterious Benefactorthe illusive manall points to me1 before the illusive man was taken over by the reapers the dlc for me2 for liara finding the shadow broker explains it in greater detail that the original broker was looking for a way out and the MEA came into play
@samuel101255 жыл бұрын
Actually Andromrda was linked to before mass effect 3 so no.
@ColonelBragg5 жыл бұрын
Mass effect has so many annoying plot holes also the writers didn't understand scale enough the humans really should have been in space far longer before first contact and of had a far larger population in the hundreds of billions i also wish the reapers could have been beat conventionally instead of using a deus ex machina
@spikegilfer19972 жыл бұрын
Udina: *Screeches autistically to the council faces* Shepard: Bro, Saren's a real problem. Udina: sEtTLe DOwN, cOMmaNdEr.
@josephayers73952 жыл бұрын
Me when killing udina in mass effect 3: *JUSTICE*
@HollywoodGamingTV4 жыл бұрын
You know I think the asari and Salarian councilors were actually pretty reasonable and likable in the first game and all of the councilors, minus Udina, has both positive and negative traits in ME3. I think the council honestly gets too much hate
@tamiloxd71683 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@morbius1093 жыл бұрын
7:07 - The one time Udina said something that I agreed with.
@TheVergile6 жыл бұрын
citadel council: wrong about everything, every time, always
@jaguar5506 жыл бұрын
Renegade version coming soon
@jomnix6 жыл бұрын
Jaguar550 The council deserve it.
@RaLoPL6 жыл бұрын
That'll be a short video ;)
@Kokuyous3ki4 жыл бұрын
I'm a goody 2shoes when it comes to games but I must admit that the renegade route is much more comedic :)
@TheNorthie3 жыл бұрын
I will give the Council some leeway in Mass Effect 1 about believing the Reapers. All they had to go on was a dream or vision from Shepard and he was the only one who saw it?
@B-rex3952 жыл бұрын
That’s fair, but they have no excuse in mass effect 2.
@Spearra Жыл бұрын
@@B-rex395 Bringing Legion along for said "conversation" really just drives home the point that the Council is next level dense.
@georgelongcoal111716 күн бұрын
After Virmire? No they don't.
@realhumanbean214 жыл бұрын
49:20 they finally agreed they were stupid all this time before
@jasonalcatraz58175 жыл бұрын
28:14 Oh this game has me pissed off now... Sovereign was right there in the first game, flying right into the Citadel, holding it with his big ol tentacle arms, and then was blown to tiny pieces, many of which went into the council chamber AND YET YOU IDIOTS STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT?! ... fuck it, I'm going renegade when I get the trilogy.
@QueenofSilence1014 жыл бұрын
Councilor Sparatus is the stubborn skeptic of the bunch. And that's why I like him. His replacement, Quentius, is much nicer, though.
@Neoplasmer6 жыл бұрын
What kills me is that Shepard never made the rank of Captain. I mean sure, Spectre status, saving the galaxy three times is awesome. But you'd think the Alliance would have the decency to promote him or something.
@Neoplasmer6 жыл бұрын
Alpha Centurion then why is it that capt. Anderson can order commander Shepard in ME 1?
@SCP019865 жыл бұрын
Anderson is pretty much Shepard's father figure, he outranks Shepard on that alone.
@edrianalon54844 жыл бұрын
It's the fact that I believe that once someone one becomes a spectre they are honorably discharged from there respective military's
@frgscajs20184 жыл бұрын
Commander Shepard sounds cooler
@Dark_Voice3 жыл бұрын
I think he didnt want to. Just like Hannah Shepard rejected being an admiral because she wanted to be with her men and be on active duty, not being a pencil pusher. Also, he died at the end of ME1 and joined terrorist organisation, at the end of ME2 he murdered 300k Batarians => his actions also prevented it. You cannot promote someone who did a genocide and expect Batarians to be fine with it. (Yes, it was always for good reasons but still. He simply did a lot of questionable choices, caused by beaucratic bs, that he wasnt possible to promote.)
@SamaelHellscrem5 жыл бұрын
So much could have been prevented with A FUCKING GO PRO!
@reldyxd95344 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the asari counsellor just use that asari mind meld thing that liara does for you. She Could see it all for herself and would have saved many arguments😂
@reldyxd95344 жыл бұрын
@@realhumanbean21 why not? She is a councillor that they already trust unlike uldina by me3. If she sees what you've seen then she can verify it and they'll have no reason to not help? Why wouldn't they trust her?
@realhumanbean214 жыл бұрын
@@reldyxd9534 trusting her is not enough to spend billions of credits to stop the mythical treat, there must be more essential proofs that other councelors could see themselves
@reldyxd95344 жыл бұрын
@@realhumanbean21 true enough. Though she could still start preparing the asari for the reaper threat. If they see her starting to prepare for it then whose to say they won't too?
@assordante22059 ай бұрын
@@reldyxd9534they did. Or, they were, at least, but it wasn't enough when the reapers showed up. They didn't know the destructive force they'd be facing. Watch the opening cutscene of me3, dipshit.
@themoonlitquill5 ай бұрын
Sovereign attacking the Citadel, the Council watching it all go down from the Destiny Ascension, is like someone sitting in their burning living room, as the ceiling crashes down all around them, completely denying their house is on fire. They didn't want to admit it. I heard, however, that they did research the ship and found it wasn't Geth or any known tech; but instead of preparing their people for the Reapers, they buried the facts and whistled whilst looking around suspiciously. In order to cover their own asses, they accused Shepard of being insane and delusional. He saved their lives only to be betrayed by them. I wonder if Nihlus knew what a joke the Council is. What a joke the Spectres are.
@fireteamdelta91086 жыл бұрын
29:12 yeah can a black man be black
@StealthTheFoxz6 жыл бұрын
Anderson tellin' it like it is.
@Jampolo_OG8 ай бұрын
The way Shepard gets cut off before he can apologize... She laid her hopes in him and he let her down _hard_
@themoonlitquill5 ай бұрын
She waited too long to get the Asari involved! By the time she told Shepard about Thessia, the Reapers had almost completely harvested the planet! That is NOT his fault that she was insufferably stubborn and conflicted. That whole situation was on her and her alone. Not only that, but she knew her people were violating one of the Council's most vital laws...not to hide or hoard Prothean technology. She's the worst of all of them imo.
@williamkerfoot80393 ай бұрын
@@themoonlitquill Sparatus is the reason most players (including me in my rookie years) don't even let them see Mass Effect 2!
@DarkKing0096 жыл бұрын
You're doing God's work
@redtsun67Ай бұрын
Definitely the most accurate depiction of politicians in any video game I've ever seen.
@maksymilianziele28 Жыл бұрын
Shepard: "I don't know how you deal with all politics. It's exhausting." Anderson: "As I recall, you gave me a job." Shepard: "...Yeah. Sorry about that."
@dc42964 жыл бұрын
God, I hated the council. In all 3 games, all they ever do is second guess and criticise all you do, when they aren't actively working against you.
@maksymilianziele28 Жыл бұрын
When almost 1000 year old Asari Councilor sees that humans made more mess in the Galaxy in 30 years than other races in hundreds of years before humans conquered stars, of course she would feel disdain towards them. Especially when that councilor thought about a retirement before humans came to the Citadel and gave her hundreds tons of new paper work.
@Viruseek13373 ай бұрын
Finally i can see how council talk looks like when you don't hang up the call
@awaw59046 жыл бұрын
Love ya videos boi
@jaguar5506 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend:)
@obi-wankenobi84066 жыл бұрын
Earth's economy is reduced to I ow you
@wimblesoft5 жыл бұрын
Maan... The Asari Coincilor....
@silviogrijalva88015 жыл бұрын
Hot right?
@themoonlitquill5 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter how nice, civil, or reasonable you are with the council; they're static in their blissful idiocy. The Asari counciler, by ME3, is the most pompous and dillisional. Valern is purely useless, and Sparatus doesn't hear the bell toll until his homeworld is veing harvested. Same with Tavos. They're all useless, reckless, and stupidly oblivious, even with the reapers breathing down their necks!
@crimson_axi58924 жыл бұрын
Idky but I felt kinda sad when I heard Vigil was nonfunctional, I was kinda hoping to run into it again
@Dark_Voice3 жыл бұрын
Vigil was more helpful than pretty much everyone else combined in ME 1.
@hollenzwang_42875 жыл бұрын
AH, YES. RIPAHZ.
@tamiloxd71683 жыл бұрын
I must be the only one who saves the council. I mean they didn't talked to a reaper or a prothean AI, the council literally do not have any reason to believe that reapers are real. Besides i like the heroic image that gives the paragon choice to humanity.
@shadowwriter45383 жыл бұрын
I saved them on my first playthrough. Despite their attitudes, I didn't hate them for not believing me.
@WillieManga2 жыл бұрын
Nah. As slow as the Council was to accept things, they were more memorable than the Human council.
@b1acksteve2 жыл бұрын
@@WillieManga The human council was one of the dumbest ideas in the ME series. Let's think about it, most races already think humans are getting too much way too fast. We then get a Spectre, then the Council happens to just die, and that human Spectre is the only one to stop the thing that killed the Council then we install an all human Council. And again a renegade Sheaperd is the one who gets the option for a human Council so they sould have a reputaion of being a bastard. I do not believe that non of the other races would raise an eyebrow at any of this.
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil1178 ай бұрын
The council letting shep become a spectre is the first and last W of the council
@ADmillionaire3 жыл бұрын
I had NO regrets letting the council die. NONE!!!!!
@GenericUsername-qp1ww3 жыл бұрын
if u were to ask me who is my least fave member of the council prior to ME3 I would've chosen the obvious and said Sparatus however come ME3 he's the first non-human councilor who acknowledges the Reapers threat and offers aid to humanity before Valern or Tevos did if u were to ask me who is my least fave council member come ME3 it would b Tevos as she CONSTANTLY finds way to drag her feet and care about herself more than anyone else "we're not coming to the summit between the krogan, salarians and turians because we believe there is too much bad blood there" translation="I cant be bothered" and then you find out the asari and specifically the asari councilor is guilty of major hypocrisy as ever since ME1 its been confirmed that a race keeping a prothean beacon without sharing is illegal and find out the asari have been breaking this rule that they came up with by refusing to share the beacon on Thessia with anyone else or acknowledge its existence. Tevos only helps Shepard when the Reapers come knocking on her peoples doorstep the perfect ending would b Shepard survives and informs Valern and Sparatus of Tevos's hypocrisy and she's kicked off the council and the asari r not given a spot on the council for a very long time
@williamkerfoot803910 ай бұрын
There's no way Tevos knew about that! She was only told by her government. At worst, she only inherited the secret.
@Choshako Жыл бұрын
Alternative Title: Paragon Shepard Being Gaslit For 56 Minutes and 6 Seconds Straight. But seriously, as frustrating as it is to watch, there's something deeply hilarious about the council treating Shepard like a tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
@jasonharding964 жыл бұрын
I like hanging up on them
@BoeseFlueche3 жыл бұрын
In Mass effect 4 I want Shapard to say: Asari are pink and 5 meter tall volos like creature and I dare the council to refute me once again!
@NoNo-or2wj3 ай бұрын
I think we should have been given another opportunity to kill the council in ME3. I wanted them dead for betraying us after we saved them in 1 lmao
@jyshot5 жыл бұрын
I noticed you missed the feros report
@77yvurc3 жыл бұрын
i have yet to see any reason to have saved them in the first place
@CaptBarbosa773 жыл бұрын
At least the Turian Councilor actually helped in Mass Effect 3. The other two either did nothing or even tried to sabotage your efforts. Bastards…
@ladyjoker68975 жыл бұрын
I believe if you leave them to die. I think you get Asset Awards from ME3.
@willieoelkers55685 жыл бұрын
You have a higher initial asset total since humanity's fleets didn't take such a heavy beating during Saren's attack, but you miss out on other Assets later. It all basically evens out, since they didn't want to make either Paragon or Renegade the "better" or "right" choice.
@PEECTPA Жыл бұрын
I know, that the chance is pretty small, but still. Author, can u please to make one more video with ANOTHER version of council and all of their dialogs?./ (and fShepard, if possible... lol) I mean, i know that u are playing for yourself, and is that there was no video since-.. Well. But i downloaded many of your video as mp3 and re-listening them again n again in background because im a huge fun of ME and i love voices in this game (this is why fShep - i love J. Hale n her work in games!) Maybe u'll want to make another paragon/renegate version; or maybe u'll just random choices - as they fit for your new character, idk, it's up to u! Ofc, i prefer to get as many lines as possible (aka full), but again, i understand that this will take YOUR time - for playing, for motage and so on... So... if someday u'll want to re-play the whole Mass Effect, and if u'll want to kill the original council - maybe u'll think about to record a some video too?.. Even if u there will be a mShep - i'll take that, because there near zero chance that ANY1 ELSE will record such content in future... Anyway. Thanks for your videos. PS oh: no Legendary edition, pls >_>
@rogerroger237710 ай бұрын
just play the damn game
@PEECTPA10 ай бұрын
@@rogerroger2377 Already did it over half of hundred times... ...aaaand this is a good time to do it again! \o/ PS: sorry, man for ruining your "fun"
@rogerroger237710 ай бұрын
@@PEECTPA I didn't understand why it was my fun lol, I highly recommend recording a podcast of your journey lol
@DTMACK106 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of these guys too
@ladyjoker68975 жыл бұрын
If you chose the Destroy Ending and since the Citadel DLC gets destroyed if I remember then I believe the council dies no matter what!
@silviogrijalva88015 жыл бұрын
Yay
@nathan32523 жыл бұрын
In all honesty when the conflict is over those three councilors should be considered war criminals and tried as collaborators with the reapers. Despite repeated proof they refused to listen to the truth and ultimately the deaths of billions lie squarely on their shoulders.
@user-qd9rg3wy2n3 жыл бұрын
I never saved council 3 guys at the expanse of whole fleet? even as Paragon I have to say no
@Dark_Voice3 жыл бұрын
Its not just the Council. Its Destiny ascension with 10k crew. Moreover, the Council are not just 3 people, they are a symbol and just like The Illusive Man brought Shepard despite not agreeing with him, I think saving the Council is the right thing to do.
@eddzetarabbit2 жыл бұрын
There is only three councils representing their races: the turian, the asari, and the salarian. Though they added a human council member in ME3. Why can't they have a krogan and a quarian added to the council?
@themoonlitquill5 ай бұрын
Because the Krogan rebelled against the Council...violently. And the Quarians violated Council Law by creating sentient AI via the Geth. Council races must prove they can DEFEND the galaxy. The Krogan and Quarians have only preyed on it.
@ArcaneTuber3 жыл бұрын
5:29 I supposed it must be a limitations of the game graphics but, the Cerberus soldiers ran off when they figured out that only 2 guys were coming? 😕
@masterofdisguise11123 жыл бұрын
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@SuperAlizul4 жыл бұрын
Why is Udina the councilor in mass effect 3, when in mass effect 2, Anderson's the councilor? Did Anderson step down or something?
@Comintern19194 жыл бұрын
Anderson is only the councilor in Mass Effect 2 if you choose so in Mass Effect 1. At the end of Mass Effect 1 you can choose who becomes Councilor. But yes, even if you choose Anderson to be the Councilor between Mass Effect 2 and 3 he steps down because it was too much politics for him.
@coryseavers29323 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the legendary edition is gonna handle loot idk if I want the same as 1 or the same as 2 and 3
@piercenguyen92607 ай бұрын
What's galactic confrontation?
@nikik55675 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of how much I HATE the council.
@bru93835 жыл бұрын
And this just makes question myself even more about why I let the Council die.
@JabamiLain4 жыл бұрын
I know it was risky to sacrifice reinforcements, but it's also risky to sacrifice the society's order, especially when you're about to go to war.
@yoga56314 жыл бұрын
I just save them for the destiny ascension ngl
@anleashed693 жыл бұрын
If the Crucible had the effect of disabling Reapers shields and messing up with their systems ans battle coesion, giving a fight chance to the armada to fight them. And based on your war assets, define what would be the outcome: Bad: still get slaughtered. Neutral: Win with such a cost that galatic community will take decades to rebuils. Good: Costs were great but the damage is manageable and there was time enough to save Shepard. And delete that shit ending.
@Vigriff Жыл бұрын
As immensely annoying as the Citadel Council are, I prefer them over the Galactic Senate from Star Wars.
@millabasset1710 Жыл бұрын
The imperial field commanders who belittle you in Battlefront II are more annoying imo.
@landlockedcroat1554 Жыл бұрын
gawd dayum this looks so old now
@paultermure1414 жыл бұрын
What armor are they wearing right at the start?
@jaguar5504 жыл бұрын
They wearing Colossus armor.
@paultermure1414 жыл бұрын
@@jaguar550 how do you obtain that?
@jaguar5504 жыл бұрын
You can find them via random loot(be sure your character is at least 55). Or you can get the armor as a reward if you complete bring down the sky(again be sure you character is at least 50, better level 55+ for the best version).
@joseperez-qf4gz8 ай бұрын
Don’t like the asari from mass effect andromeda they feel small and annoying but the mass effect trilogy I prefer from that game.