Massa Gives Coulthard the Finger

Felipe Massa gives David Coulthard the finger during the 2005 San Marino GP

[@Richard_Gonda]

The middle finger means P1 or pole position HAHAHAHA!

[@m598lmr]

Richárd Gonda Also according by John Watson is the international symbol for say "Thank You"

[@Richard_Gonda]

m598lmr XDDDDD

[@m598lmr]

Rob: Massa, Coulthard isn't faster than you! Can you confirm you understood the message? Massa: (YES) .I.

[@daliksheppy]

people saying this was a bad move- this was in the era of f1 when an overtake was incredibly more rare than these days. they overtake so often these days that they have enforced rules to make overtaking harder, such as leave a cars width and penalties for causing a collision and no more than 1 defensive move.

[@Zsolti000]

i want the old days back

[@trisu9473]

lol 1 defensive move is helping overtakes u ass

[@daliksheppy]

Guba Attila ... that is a good point, dont know why i put that. pls dont call me an ass i have feelings too u know :(

[@hellobooom]

daliksheppy :(

[@VideoNarstee]

Can't believe this was 11 years ago! How F1 has changed! These days Massa would have had a 2 race ban for that lol

[@thunder9929]

Are you nuts ?? That was totally DC’s fault he should be banned

[@quartics7699]

18 years now almost 😭

[@bobbyk9148]

To be fair, Massa had the inside line before the corner, DC should have left a bit more room for him

[@largol33t1]

And DC cries and bitches when it happens to him He once bashed Michael Schumacher for that but it was clearly DC's own fault. When Schumacher went inside the corner, DC jerked the wheel over, bounced off of him and wound up in the gravel. That's why they never penalized Schumacher. I think it was in Brazil or Argentina.

[@tong_levin]

It was Argentina 98 wasn’t it?

[@mvphrase]

I miss you, young Massa.

[@TheV12ferrari]

"Felipe Massa had a little bit of ding dong" haha lol xD

[@davidkovacs6428]

Ah, the good old DC ignoring the fact that other people are turning in the corner next to him...lovely 😇

[@DannyBoySmith1993]

DC getting a taste of his own medicine :P

[@blainy-o93]

Back in the day when everyone had traction control.

[@simracer1256]

"I'm going for first says John cleland!"

[@Rosvolainen]

Yeah, there was a window there between when he first started and was mowing the lawn most of the time and now when he's just slow that he actually was a proper F1 driver. I'm not a Ferrari or Massa fan but I'd be happy to see him at least on the podium again at some point.

[@glorious_help]

nowadays the cars are fragile.. one small touch, half car destroyed.

[@OperationFoxley19441]

The days when Massa could actually drive!

[@JT-ko2ib]

A trip down memory lane. I thought Jim Rosenthal was long gone from show by this point.

[@Euclides287]

That´s what he should have made to Alonso in Hockenheim last year! When he was told to let him pass. Thumbs up if you agree!

[@blainy-o93]

@roguelead72 True, because as we all know, FIA stands for Ferrari International Assistance. Although this season it's been a bit more Fernando International Assistance.

[@pcandyhk]

@xXTheKidzlerXx go watch the BBC indian GP analysis. it is shown that Lewis planned to overtake there. Lewis and Massa were alongside before the braking zone, Lewis about one wheel behind and at the INSIDE. I would say at that point Massa was too late that he could defend. Massa himself said he then choose to run at the 'normal' line, which opened up the space for Lewis. It doesn't matter whether he THOUGHT he could CLEARLY out-brake Lewis, yet Massa had GIVEN Lewis the corner in that move.

[@SSJ1Igor]

i wholeheartedly agree

[@Superduck7716]

fernando is faster than glue.

[@lucasathirson77]

*Felipe baby stay cool*

[@pummyy]

In spite of being so fast, drivers still do manage to find a tenth to Finger !!!

[@UnlovedZetsu]

Yes I know, and the reason why is hes getting old is because hes getting minor injuries this year like what happened in Monaco 2013...

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 This was clearly DC's fault. Massa was beside him and had nowhere to go, DC forced him off the track (inwards) and directly caused the touch. Of course I am talking about the thing starting at 0:16.

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 For example, a good thing would simply be to forget penalties and just order the breaching driver (in mild situations - no contact, no car damage, no crowding off the track) to let the victim driver overtake and not to try to repass him for a full lap or something. But of course this does not solve situations like LH vs FM at Suzuka, where car damage cannot be sufficiently compensated. There should also be a scheme for at least partial points in case of accidents caused by others.

[@DanielHamdi1990]

Oooooh yeah baby !

[@pcandyhk]

@xXTheKidzlerXx THAT IS RACING mate!! To overtake where ur opponents not expected is THE POINT! And these overtake moves are exactly what Lewis is famous for, just as the one he overtook Vettel at turn 2. Lewis could have chosen a easier spot to overtake, but nowhere is impossible, why not?! I think mostly ARE accident, but for the indian GP I think Massa was out of his mind. *starting. Lewis is always tough racer, if Massa do it the tough way, he expects Lewis to go soft?! Guten tag! lol

[@PatHelmsleyisback]

thumbs up if Coulthard gives Schumi the finger brought you here

[@pianoshizzle]

"in a bit of a ding dong"

[@wmcartpusher04]

Even F1 drivers have their NASCAR moments.

[@marcus6291]

happy birthday

[@gturner38]

It happens all the time in racing and given that the gesture was shown on a replay after the race tells me the BBC had no problem with it either.

[@RainbowDashMusic]

By the way he didn't finish all the races he retired in Australia

[@939Batze]

What is a Ding-Dong?

[@S6Video]

No, Massa had the turn in, DC should have given him space.

[@steph30777]

@pcandyhk but you have to understand that Massa had to fight for each position because he wasn't save for the next year with ferrari.

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 Well, Felipe was great until the accident. Post-accident Felipe is a watered down version. But before that, he fought Michael and Kimi EXTREMELY well. Of course, a huge part of that was his substantially lower weight and center of gravity, but still, those two are BLOODY hard to beat or even match in the same car. Ask Nico, Fisi, Luca, etc. Felipe's current problem is many other people's problem - Lewis Hamilton's on track conduct. Everybody makes mistakes, but Lewis overdoes that.

[@Ward1706]

That could be I'm one position higher than you now!

[@nitroboost8765]

Yep, that's never gonna happen at 'Fern'ari

[@mclarenguy22]

Not now!

[@wmcartpusher04]

@SmeurkeDeKat @SmeurkeDeKat Actually, you raise a good point, turns out "flipping the bird" seems to have originated in Ancient Rome and spread throughout the Mediterranean. It seems to have been made famous by drivers in NASCAR.

[@me89360]

I like jim and mark doing f1 but then again i like jake davind and eddie jim and mark are really seirous, they have a few laughs Jake, David and Eddie are really funny and makes them good

[@TheMudzis]

Maldonado got Drive Through penalty in 2012 Hungarian GP for this "Massa" behaviour!

[@blainy-o93]

I love the fact that when DC was interviewed, he said he was going to 'bash 3 colours of shit out of the little bastard' :L

[@Mark550355]

Coulthard gave schumacher the finger back in 2000, French Gp i think, not 100% sure, Massa and Coulthard really have had alot of scufs, back in melbourne 2008 i think they had an incident as well

[@X2Lazy2WinX]

He just told Coulthard he was number 1 ;)

[@Woodstock187]

nice!

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 In Malaysia, some say Lewis lifted off a little, causing the approach rate to jump. And on the straight, he did like 3 moves + 1 into the corner (which he repeated in Monza in front of Button, actually), MS only did 1+1 before the 1st Lesmo and Ascari. Alonso also did 3+1 at Monza. Of course some of Lewis' things are OK or normal for any driver, but he just needs to improve his perception of other people's position. Seb and Fernando should have gotten penalties (F Monza, S Suzuka).

[@quelium]

F1 should be more like this in 2012!!!

[@mindujiman]

Now people begging for bringing the 2012 season back... hahaha PD: I didn't enjoy the 2012 season as much as people did it seems...

[@theschuminator]

hahah must of meant p1 pole position, those were the days

[@TheUnstoppablePlaya2]

Coulthard...what goes around comes around..

[@N1Gaming]

love blundell's humour

[@steph30777]

@pcandyhk yes he was trying but he cant wait for a better moment to pass him and he is to aggressive. And i think the Indiacrash was Lewis' fault because he tryed to overtake Massa where is no place to overtake and Massa doesn't want to let Lewis go without fighting...

[@foden34ke12]

@Phoenix1664 would have been nice if he got a championship though...

[@kevinprior3549]

I love it

[@jakubkrcma]

OK in the 70's, 80's or 90's is no longer OK in 2011. For example, Vettel's probably innocent mistake (he told Jenson he genuinely thought he was behind, not beside) should have meant a penalty and so should Fernando's Monza crowding off the track of Seb. But guys from the "old, crazy, and suicidal" days think it's alright and let it happen... :-) There should be a thorough clarification of stuff, otherwise every race is judged ABSOLUTELY differently. DRIVING rules should be MUCH more specific.

[@RainbowDashMusic]

Alonso was run into twice, so A. That doesn't count and B. What does Alonso have to do with all this?

[@steph30777]

@pcandyhk okay thats right but noone other overtook(?) at this place because normally you cant overtake there. it was clear that they would touch each other if Lewis would try to pass Massa. So Lewis could have wait for a better point because his car is faster than Massas. Other question: do you think it is by accident that they touch in almost every race? Sorry for any mistakes, I'm German.

[@DeadbeatXT]

@Mark550355 i think US gp where schumacher forced him over the kerbs.

[@nitroboost8765]

Back in the days when Massa's car pointed the correct way (most of the time).

[@nickslidel]

0:25 - 'good move by masa, very racey' .... hamilton would have got a drive through FOR SURE!!!!

[@bluecipo91]

What a dirty move

[@Lintari]

Maybe. But I don't understand, why Ferrari keep him, if he coudn't recover.

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 Felipe should have gotten a penalty at Monza for clearly pushing MW out (just like DC did to FM in this video). Another thing is that MSC only did one DEFENSIVE move per straight at Monza and when he moved back to the outside, LH was sufficiently behind - there was no way Lewis would have taken him on the outside both at the first Lesmo and Ascari, so the "second" move was not defensive (Michael's staying inside wouldn't change a thing). But Lewis and Fernando DID defend more than 1

[@jeffreyho5445]

back when f1 was real racing

[@roguelead72]

@blainyrules Nah, he's not in a Ferrari.

[@Rosvolainen]

@petersims411 Does what exactly? Are we comparing rules between completely different seasons now? The rules have gotten a lot more stricter and consistent since 2005. They are not perfect but comparing F1 now and in 2005 is almost like comparing two different sports.

[@WildfireX]

@jakubkrcma It was massa that squeezed DC off the track.... Not the other way around.

[@Superduck7716]

Finished more than Alonso

[@MacGovernor]

Wins 13-11

[@MikeyGTR]

Haha he said ding dong.

[@PMGF]

Massa somehow finds to pick fights with british drivers first David Coulthard & now Lewis Hamiltion

[@gturner38]

Not even close to being sabotaged. Montoya came into F1 and was on two top teams, but was as likely to crash as win. Massa was a crasher, wasn't as quick as Schumi or Alonso and still almost won a WDC. Barrichello got a lot of wins and finished further up on points than his raw talent probably deserved by being Schumi's number 2. And if non European drivers were being sabotaged, explain Villeneuve's championship.

[@gun1987gunn]

Back when you could overtake, be aggressive and no one gave a fuck. Everyone just carried on as usual because it's racing.

[@jakubkrcma]

I like DC and I like Felipe. But DC was wrong here. When a car is already beside, you cannot squeeze it off the track like that.

[@4evermassa]

@4evermassa no, no, you didnt understand me, that was on beggining of he's career, I didnt know that he exists back then, so I dont have a reason not to be objective, massa had inside line little before corner and came in normally, coulthard should leave space when he saw felipe even before corner, go more wide and no contact, like I said thats my opinion....

[@PianoManCallum]

To be fair, he should get a penalty for that. He literally just pushed Coulthard of the racing line.

[@NFGamingTM]

Massa. Crashing and getting angry since 2006.

[@DunkleVollNuss]

back then, it was a "good move"... today, it is a penalty -.-

[@Lintari]

The days, when Massa had balls(

[@RainbowDashMusic]

2005 "Good move there by Massa" 2012 FUCKING BAN HIM HE'S A DANGER TO THE OTHER DRIVER 10 PLACE GRID DROP DRIVE THOUGH PENALTIES!!!

[@GoddDiss]

[@MrNovember41]

Massa had no right to be angry, he made two very stupid dives and wrecked both their races and had the nerve to flip DC off! He's done it more than once two, the most memorable being 2007 when he clouted DC off in the first race. Massa's decent but he really can't overtake very well.

[@PhilipRoyBrooks]

i can't see where this is coulthard's fault.

[@TeamNoLimits865]

Hungary 2009. Look it up

[@poeka95]

that is not the main reason, don't you know what happened to him.....

[@davidanderssonify]

correct

[@ale03000]

Some F1 drivers really have poor manners (Alonso too LOL), they like to show the bad finger when they're unhappy, or at least raise their hands to show their anger. Don't get angry too easily, in real life driving too.

[@fabianogsouza5683]

is the imola power

[@pcandyhk]

@xXTheKidzlerXx Ham made mistakes, and he did made some funny mistakes since 2008 anyway. I dont think he deliberately crashed into Massa in that 2 occasions, he was clearly trying to pass Massa. The other incidents I dont think they were Ham's fault. And the most recently crash it was clearly Massa's mistake.

[@dougpryce92]

0 :25 this is a ridiculous overtake, i hope he got a penalty as coulthard's tyres were in front of his at the corner

[@AlexZAfRo]

and this is why i like massa :-)

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 Just like in Malaysia 2010 vs Petrov, Lewis tried to break the follower's slipstream in Malaysia 2011 vs Alonso. Without that, the follower would very probably successfully overtake, so that was a series of defensive moves in that respect. This is about the spirit of Article 20.2 of the Sporting Regulations. The wording is pretty non-specific. The problem is VERY OFTEN that people from a COMPLETELY different era judge today's guys driving according to today's rules. What used to be

[@jakubkrcma]

@x420Raptor1 His problems are not magnified. He has done something not very nice or appropriate basically every second grand prix weekend in F1. He has the speed of light, but the orientation of an old lady. And I am NOT against him in any way. He is a very passionate racer and a sensitive guy who will cry when things get extremely wrong or right, like Senna. I just see his areas for some massive needed improvement (in order to become the legend he can be).

[@RaamAnkka]

Wait what? How is Massa a danger to the others? He managed to help Ferrari get that 2nd place in Constructors Championship, he had a poor early season but he did good the late season, and he finnished all of his races so how is he danger to the others?

[@lambosforusal]

to be fair, that was because coulthard didnt give him any space.. but it doesnt matter! this shows just how controlled formula 1 has gotten. nothing is allowed anymore.

[@takmeister]

You have a ding dong like that nowadays and the cars would have disintegrated and the tires would delaminate again.

[@cfcnlr]

if that was now hed get about 10 drive though penalties

[@riccardocorazzari8484]

IMOLA

[@Superduck7716]

DNF does mean that race doesn't count...it's a big fat zero!!! Very good!! I mentioned Alonso simply because I wanted too.