MASSEY FERGUSON 175

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

A lot of people are saying break it and sell the good parts, but I've studied and I don't think it has any.

[@LordMuck]

Did you study it with the same fucking glasses you used to buy it ?

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

Glasses of vintage Calvados helped me make my purchasing decision

[@tonymorgan3526]

What a fucking great reply!!!

[@thegregdavieschannel]

@@ClarenceFudWeasel no great story ever started after a glass of milk.

[@ethanearle9457]

Bring it back to Cambridge and hope there’s another person with as bad or worse sight than you who might buy it 😆

[@peewee.3138]

The difference between a welder and a farmer? A welder knows that they can’t farm!

[@travissullivan5476]

I can’t wait to use that line!!

[@keithhill3027]

Restore the 175 would be a good project for us to follow.

[@111champs]

Restore her, she deserves to be given some love, also will be nice for people to see something that would normally end up being scraped can be saved and still be used.

[@28YorkshireRose12]

Restore it! That poor tractor has suffered at the hands of so many owners/drivers, it needs to be shown some compassion in its later years. - You didn't see the "bag o' shite" DB 885 we hauled out of York Auction Centre about 20 years ago. It had more going wrong than going right. Even on the day, some guy wanted us to sell him the crank shaft. Anyway, cutting a long story short, we brought it home, pressure washed the years of cow dung off it (it had been used as a scraper tractor) - it was not pretty, and looked worse than Fud's Massey. We had all sorts of welded up bodges, buggered front axle, steering that wouldn't steer, no reverse unless you put your foot against the stick and pushed hard, PTO with smashed gears, no brakes and. . . . Well, you get the idea, but bit by bit we did little bits hither and thither, and big bits in the middle of the yard! In the end, that poor old 885 has proven itself to be a good and reliable tractor with a heart of gold. Like a faithful old sheepdog, it will get you anywhere, and do anything it was designed to, and get the flock back home again. Some of the unlikeliest heaps turn out to be some of the most trustworthy assets, given a bit of TLC. Our 885 is still in its moth eaten (cow crap rotted) tinwork (with very little reparation). One day maybe, but it stands as I remember it when my dad was still alive and looked at it and wondered what the hell we'd dragged back to our yard. Go on, give old Fud a hand to make that Massey go again. Show it you love it, and it will love you back!

[@Aaron_N111]

I reckon restore it, it's obviously had a hard life and I think it deserves a freshen up. Also there's not many around especially here in Ireland. I owen a 135 two 165 203&212 engine and I'd love to complete it with a 175 and 185.

[@elborrachogrande]

Fudweasel: You win some you lose some LM: that’s a fairly fucking bad hand to lose Me: chokes on coffee laughing 😂

[@neilporter3286]

I would like to see you do a full restoration of the 175 - largely because it will be a challenge starting from where that poor tractor currently sits.

[@purplerunner1715]

It's always a good thing to see a complete wrecker get back to glory. I have a huge respect for people that can do that, because I know it's not an easy thing to do, and a lot of time and money goes into doing so. And it's always nice to see it being done in a world where we buy new and throw away the old nearly every single day.

[@tractorman810]

certainly seen worse, shes close to scrap, but i don’t think it quite ready yet ,i guess it depends on how much the engine needs spending on with it being seized,then of course its gearbox which is also unknown, but with yours skills between you should be easy to do ,tin works easy enough to sort by the looks of it and cheap enough to replace other bits

[@FlyingFergyMan]

It will cost you more than it is worth to restore so from an economic side break it. I’m speaking from experience, I bought a 165 in similar condition and restored it. The amount of parts and time spent way exceeded the now value of the tractor. However it’s not all about the economics, if it’s a challenge your after then u have got one. Good luck guys with what ever u decide to do.

[@OliverLee390]

The 175 is quite a rare tractor mind, 236 engine on it too so pretty bulletproof, I'd personally restore it, not many 175s left.

[@stuartrance277]

I would like to see the tractor restored , anybody can break things up !!! Not many people have the skills to rebuild things properly, it’s so good to resurrect things that once worked & have in a sense “died “. The restoration would help others that may of never seen a rebuilding of a tractor, but always happy to go with other people’s ideas too !!

[@garfsgarage2921]

Right on, spot on videos full of down to earth old school agricultural engineering. It would be good to see the 175 repaired to make a good basic working tractor again.

[@scottsaunders3112]

Would be interesting to see that tractor restored mucker.

[@LordMuck]

I'm keen to see if I can get it running first

[@eddief3326]

@@LordMuck YES TRY TO GET RUNNING AND CHECK GREARS. IF TO BAD IT IS PARTS.

[@thecountywilliams5098]

Just cannot imagine any parts left would be in any better shape than the quality of the welding. No, Massey. I ain't mad, an' I ain't now. That's a thing I want ya to know”.... BANG

[@jamestractorenthusiast9018]

A full restoration off the 175 would ne neat

[@heatherhunter5066]

Hand on heart I would love to see her working again, but sometimes its best to shed a tear and say goodbye.. break her for parts at least she will help another massy get back on the road,

[@MokesEnd]

For the cost of parts, against another 175 being "done up" you're as well off restoring this one properly from the ground up - lot of work though!

[@davedoingdavethings247]

Hi, I've only just found you on KZbin and have been catching up on your videos. I run an engineering business and have two old tractors, a collection or motorcycles, some stationary engines and two classic cars so you content is bang on the money. I like the way you deal with the Internet expert's sorry idiots. I have a Nuffield 916 loader tractor that had a shot diesel engine that would cost far to much to fix. So I rebuild a 1100cc A series car petrol engine and fitted it, I was told it couldn't be done by the expert's. Well you can ,I did and everything works as it should and it doesn't look wrong. Realy nice to see a young lady getting stuck in, finding any young person who is interested these days is impossible. Keep up the good work. David

[@alasdairvincent6248]

I had a farmer friend who had the little brother, the 135. I had the pleasure of driving it, more than once. A good tractor back in the day.

[@markhaines6034]

I would love to see a full restore on this. I'm hoping to do the family's 178, a series of videos would be great for me.😉

[@joeblockley9695]

I'm doing this international b414 and it a bit low in power so I did a compression test on it and... it cylinder 1 :110psi. Cylinder 2 :115psi cylinder 3 :113psi. Cylinder 4 : 20psi .... OH THATS WHY

[@jimmybroom]

Great video. It would be a shame to scrap it but sometimes they are too far gone and too expensive to repair.

[@idontgetit3739]

I was an agricultural engineer/blacksmith for many years before buggering me back up & that Massey brings back soooo many memories of having to sort out the shit bodge jobs that some farmers used to do their equipment 🤣🤣

[@joemcgarry6915]

Restore both the 165 & 175 to a working tractor like I did with my 165. My 165 looks good but it works when I need it too.

[@bedfordpump]

Regarding the 175, I vote to restore it. Really enjoyed this video. Thank you.

[@akfarmboy49]

I'll be watching you restore it.

[@tompearce9000]

Great video Mucka, I'd say restore it that poor tractor has not had a nice life that's what I'm doing with my Ford 4000.

[@GarethPierce69]

Break it, then use it as a donor to restore another at a better starting point.

[@mmusser62]

I always like showing compassion to something undeserving. You should restore this tractor as a testament to the existence of compassion in spite of bad welds and neglect.

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

I'm undeserving, can I have some compassion?

[@oilyragsgarage7200]

Had a good chuckle at the welding, not sure if my eyes are playing tricks on me but think I saw welds on the top of the steering arms, where it connects onto the front kingpins. If it starts goes and stops, might be worth saving, but I know sometimes you cant save them all.

[@charleshart6992]

Excellent video - MF175 a great tractor, restored it! A proper piece of agricultural history!

[@niallmcmeel3563]

Would love to see it restored, the transformation from the shite heep it is now to full restoration would be amazing to follow. I've a 135 that my dad bought brand new back in the early 70's that would need about 4 grand spent on it to bring it back to glory. Some day when I have the money I'll do it, but for now the 175 would keep me entertained!!

[@miketaylor8777]

Go for restore. Would also like to see the video of George and Lord Muck at work on that new crawler.

[@mikeduin8311]

Break for parts and get another one. Nice to see the workings of that Detroit top end. All the best your Lordship!

[@johnshannon8018]

Love to see the old girl restored please

[@elmbriardevelopments3208]

Restore the 175 it's a challenge and it would be interesting for us to follow the restoration

[@kevinbaker6168]

LM, what I loved was when the glow plugs were bad and our "smart" mechanics got out the "Bill Cosby Party Spray" and would figure if a squirt might help, then a constant spray would be better. Yep, a there were a few times I wondered where someone was shooting their shotgun at two in the morning.

[@CZK224]

Definitely worth trying to restore. Big job and obviously going to find more problems along the way, but worth it in the end. Hate to see anything like that being scraped, thats just me. Be a great restoration for us all to follow aswell 👍

[@davidrichardson7656]

I think it’s worth restoring , I had a 165 given me that had a seized up engine and had the engine rebuilt and is a great tractor now !

[@bmacd2112]

As much fun as it would be to watch you restore it, I think it would cost more than you could ever hope to sell it for. So unless you're doing it as a labor of love, I'd probably just save what parts you can and scrap the rest.

[@LordMuck]

If we did it, the Fudweasel would keep it.

[@brucedavenport1324]

For me , I'd like to see you get the old lass working again and his Lordship's right, those back tyres look fantastic .

[@niceone6blue]

Tough call on this one. I’d get rid of all the shite bodges, crap welding and f ups and put it back to working condition like the Major.

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

Call me crazy but you got a tractor sitting there with a toasted 4 cylinder Perkins. And you have a 4 cylinder Detroit sitting in the shop soon to be without a cooling system. All you need is a JC Whitnety adapata kit and I think it would fit right in there. Probably have the only Detroit repower Massey in the whole UK. lol

[@LordMuck]

I'm not going to waste a good Detroit in an old Massey ! 😄 You seem to forget we also have a Perkins guru to hand to rebuild a toasted motor 😉 Let's see what condition it's in first

[@georgealdous23]

Aced it "is this the one bought online" "what are you on dialup" LOL

[@daveshepherd5352]

The MF 175 is a rare tractor. A lot of so-called restorers would baulk at this project but I know the pair of you could bring this back to life. Restore it as it would make a brilliant series of videos 👍👍

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

I'm tempted to go all Squatch253 on it.

[@SteveIOW]

I would like to see it restored, if you can make a series on it would be great. Thanks Lord Muck.

[@samuelgoddard5248]

spent most of the day in rush green motors looking at hundreds of trucks that will never run again including a rather complete pioneer so definitely give the 175 some TLC as in comparison it's a straight forward restoration.

[@dannichol3181]

Yeah I see the fuel mist from that injector. I thought you might have started that on lynx. Another great video

[@Tuscaforge]

Tractor heaven for the 175, let her rest in peace.

[@markbowen3638]

Be good to see it restored! Make interesting content and always good seeing machinery brought back to life after years of neglect. If any one could breath life into it you can. Go for it!

[@bigjarn]

restorations are expensive fun if you have the where with all to accomplish it

[@danandlauragaming6371]

That is a tough one I'm leaning towards breaking but it would be a shame and would love to see why the engine is seized! Keep up the good work lord

[@LordMuck]

Yes I want to know as well 👍

[@biker_dan]

Love your channel especially as I was brought up on a farm. I now live in Australia but miss the UK farming life. I wondered if you ever come across a Nuffield 10/60 on your travels? I loved these old beasts and would love to see you get one on the farm. Cheers.

[@weegrant1980]

We used to do "flammable" testing when we were young, usually involved a fire in a 45 gallon drum and chucking in aerosols/plastic bottles with various stuff and hiding behind a tree and seeing how big the flames went, not very safe but highly entertaining. As regards to the 175, a restoration would be the way to go, dont see that many nowadays.

[@andrewmason2605]

The mf 175 needed restored and repaired as old machines are getting hard to find. Tractors like the mf 175 where quite rare when new, so if the tractor was broken its lost. Keep up the good work!

[@philipbutler9404]

Great video LordMuck I'd like to see the 178 restored to when it come out of factory your doing well with the major.

[@yorkshirerich2970]

Show the old girl some love, she's had a hard life so give her the works and restore her. Love the video's, keep up the good work.

[@livingoffgridinscotland]

Looks like a French import All seem to be rough as heck and bodged with lots of weld

[@LordMuck]

No this one is a British tractor (according to Massey records) the 165 is French.

[@team7112]

I was running my diesel pick up on paraffin and used engin oil during a time we had a diesel shortage in Suid-Afrika. If i remember correctly was a 30% paraffin 70% oil mixture. Would not do that with modern computers diesel engine. I always have lots of used engin oils that i collect for recycling.

[@v666edd]

I think break it! Make a goodun out of two. I’m with you on the rear wheels, they will look a treat.

[@dieselhatz4247]

The boat launching tractors in the North East are some of the most classic, yet most abused tractors I’ve ever seen. Fishermen know how to treat a machine mean 😂. I’d like to see the internals of her, just to see if it’s even worth restoring, then take it from there. Apart from ether, lighter aerosol is the only thing that’s helped me assist a cold start on a diesel, and it wasn’t perfect. Lynx, and all that type of stuff just smells nice.

[@LordMuck]

That's what I'm thinking

[@jamesmarnell934]

Great video I would personally fully investigate any problems it has and way up the cost of restoration to the cost of chopping it in thats my 2 pence 😅😅

[@robertbulmer2544]

Would love to see it restored to its former glory

[@progbloke6655]

I'd like to see a restoration job done on the 175. A lot of work, for sure, but the videos will be really interesting.

[@heavymachinery2843]

Man pleas more repair Videos our a toolbox tour would be interresting keep up the good work i realy enjoy your Videos 👍👍😁

[@thegregdavieschannel]

If you wanted to make a realistic tractor restoration documentary, this175 would be great as it appears to have pretty much every issue in one tractor that I've experienced across 20-30 tractor's. If it was my tractor I'd probably just get it running on an all expenses/effort spared basis and eek a bit more life out of it. Fibre optic bore scopes are really handy if you haven't already got one, you might be lucky that the engines just gummed up through standing. Something I'd quite like to try is hooking up an injection pressure tester to an injector to free a sized engine. Normal combustion pressures are about 1000 psi, 175 bar is about 2500 psi, so I wouldn't stray to far over 1000psi unless your willing to risk twisting the crank. I've previously had good experiences with using hot water in the engine and a block of ice on the piston. That engine had been left on its side and sunk into some mud next to a spring for about 20 years. It had stalactites and stalagmites in the cylinder bores. Surprisingly the crank and rods did see service again in another engine, the bores were to corroded, it would have needed about a 100 thou rebore to clean up.

[@richardvenables9333]

Love to see her come back to life , restore her , great job 👏

[@tomosroberts1455]

I would love to see you restore it i think it would make great videos to watch

[@lordyfitness]

From a learning point i think restore the massey... it would be nice to see a series on it - start to finish 👍🏻

[@travissullivan5476]

I have never seen a Detroit in a Massey. My 175 has the 3.9 l Perkins diesel. I love the balance and power of the 175. I use it more than my new modern tractor. And Greetings from Florida.

[@LordMuck]

Greetings ! 👍

[@arronosmond5078]

Reckon you should restore it podge! Will be a interesting restoration for you both to do. Going to take alot of work and effort to get it put right tho!!!!! 😄

[@butchknapman3939]

Well this video, just getting into it up pops the dog and its over. Interesting to see the little engine for another episode will it run on this. Would be interesting to see what that 175 would finish as BUT? what is it going to cost and the time element, keep it for parts, carry on with the 135 (Fud Weasel kept off camera)

[@billupstateny9151]

Appreciate the in-between videos that bridge the gap between the spit 'N polish keenly edited episodes. Actually quite approved of the continuity of this video but I've been accused of being easily entertained, Worse yet, not insulted by that insinuation.

[@alanhoward387]

Very interesting to see what can happen to the Detroit Diesel injectors after sitting idle for a long period of time.

[@JesseEder]

Great video as always I would love to see that Massey restored

[@mikejh321]

Never break a tractor so refurb it for me and love to see the transformation as you go through it

[@GjS-UK]

It’d be interesting to see a restoration of a 175. It’s a toss up though as to whether this one is the donor to something a little less ....”special”, or this one is the subject of the restoration. I know very little about mechanics (which is why I watch your content) so for me, I’d love to see what’s wrong with this 175, and what it takes to bring it back to factory.

[@LordMuck]

I have to admit to being intrigued as to what's up with the engine.

[@timmyfields6159]

Part it, from all the outside problems, god only knows what they did or didn’t do to the inside. But your right, it has a lot of donor parts. But either way, I’m sure you’ll make a very entertaining video for us

[@steveransley7227]

Would be good to see you restore it, really enjoy the channel thanks.

[@bobbalbirnie2478]

I vote restore it, too much good to break it up and it will be an enjoyable process to watch. I know, I know, selfish of me while I just sit here and all... Great channel, love every vid you generate, thanks for the ride along!

[@colinblick4903]

I’m not a tractor man.... but I love the story of Lazarus...(back from the dead) 😂I’ve resurrected a V8 pilot.... an a 53 willys jeep....... so give it a go..... it’s a great feeling when it comes to life😎💪🏼 Or use it as a door stop!!😝

[@neilcrossley4718]

I think you could restore the 175 if there are no more problems the engine is a very good model was very reliable the other bits are cosmetic albeit a bit pricey but it could be a nice looking tractor (I wouldn't mind it)

[@Ajt1994]

Be nice to see the 175 restored and my t-shirt arrived this week thanks mucker great quality thanks for sticker

[@LordMuck]

I knew the name as I was packing it 😉👌🏼 Glad you like it.

[@davidgibbings6085]

Be nice to see it restored but I guess it’s down to cost at the end mucker🧐👍

[@bladewiper]

I would look into it a bit deeper. So you know just what you really have to work with.

[@oliverbudd3880]

There's always a second life given the time and the good work you can do would be great to restore it 👍

[@briancovel4567]

The 175 has some good not alot restoring it would be fun to watch especially with that

[@Mrob95]

not and easy decision to make but i’d love to see it getting restored, seeing it stripped down then re built back to how it should be would satisfying to watch plus it’s a collectible so will only be worth more money year after year!

[@Mftw767]

Greetings from Ireland. Great videos. Enjoy them. Thank you for taking the trouble. When I was a boy my dad had a mf 175 on a new Holland dubble chop... It was a troublesome tractor.

[@thegregdavieschannel]

Alternative fuels, if you can light it with a lighter or a match then a petrol engine will run on it to some degree. I've never tried running an engine on white spirits, but I've never managed to set light to white spirits with a lighter, they seem to need a bit of pre-heating or some Bill Cosby gas. That Massey 175 is in more the kind of condition I'm familiar with. Welding some round bar above and below the lifting hole in the arms is reasonably common although I've never seen it done with SS threaded bar before. I'm surprised that welds taken as well as it has. I've seen steering arms welded on before, I guess they'd previously been run slack and then couldn't be tightened properly. I've also seen a stub axle bent back before. Tractor in question had recently been converted to a 6 cylinder using a lorry engine, we hadn't realised that they'd upper the rev limiter during its time as a lorry. Anyway a junction was taken a bit to fast, the tractor ran wide and the wheel dug into the verge, it stopped the tractor pretty quickly and it rolled over. To give you some indication of the engine revs, a Nuffield 465 would do 20 mph at 2200rpm, the car behind said they'd followed the tractor at 38 on the level.

[@tn65s]

Put this tractor back to work . I know you can do it. It will make some great vids and be a great teaching tool. Best of luck from the Great State of Maine, USA

[@nicolassales8679]

A guy I know in the steam world restored a crane engine. All he started with was the jib of the crane and an engine number! You have a decent pair of industrial wheels, should be a doddle lads😱

[@marcusgs12345]

I'd like to see the 175 restored.. I'd especially like to see inside the engine and why it's seized 👍😜

[@daleolson7205]

Tough call on the 175, judging from the visible "repairs", might not be much left in good parts. Depends on the budget.

[@millomweb]

Those yellow wheels - can't help but think they're off a JCB !

[@LordMuck]

No totally different.

[@islawilliams9572]

strip all good parts off, replace with knackered bits, then take to army range for a bit of target practice.

[@ianleak]

A proper little tractor, would be nice to see it restored, and up and running, stay safe mate from Lincolnshire

[@gmartin8240]

On the 175 you should use the good parts and scrap the rest . Well done Mucka .🔩