MASSEY FERGUSON 175

Another busy week Muckers where we get a Massey Ferguson 175, pull the Fordson Major apart, remove the injectors from the Detroit 4-71 and by a knock off Rhonda engine !
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[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

A lot of people are saying break it and sell the good parts, but I've studied and I don't think it has any.

[@LordMuck]

Did you study it with the same fucking glasses you used to buy it ?

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

Glasses of vintage Calvados helped me make my purchasing decision

[@tonymorgan3526]

What a fucking great reply!!!

[@thegregdavieschannel]

@@ClarenceFudWeasel no great story ever started after a glass of milk.

[@ethanearle9457]

Bring it back to Cambridge and hope there’s another person with as bad or worse sight than you who might buy it 😆

[@elborrachogrande]

Fudweasel: You win some you lose some LM: that’s a fairly fucking bad hand to lose Me: chokes on coffee laughing 😂

[@peewee.3138]

The difference between a welder and a farmer? A welder knows that they can’t farm!

[@travissullivan5476]

I can’t wait to use that line!!

[@111champs]

Restore her, she deserves to be given some love, also will be nice for people to see something that would normally end up being scraped can be saved and still be used.

[@keithhill3027]

Restore the 175 would be a good project for us to follow.

[@28YorkshireRose12]

Restore it! That poor tractor has suffered at the hands of so many owners/drivers, it needs to be shown some compassion in its later years. - You didn't see the "bag o' shite" DB 885 we hauled out of York Auction Centre about 20 years ago. It had more going wrong than going right. Even on the day, some guy wanted us to sell him the crank shaft. Anyway, cutting a long story short, we brought it home, pressure washed the years of cow dung off it (it had been used as a scraper tractor) - it was not pretty, and looked worse than Fud's Massey. We had all sorts of welded up bodges, buggered front axle, steering that wouldn't steer, no reverse unless you put your foot against the stick and pushed hard, PTO with smashed gears, no brakes and. . . . Well, you get the idea, but bit by bit we did little bits hither and thither, and big bits in the middle of the yard! In the end, that poor old 885 has proven itself to be a good and reliable tractor with a heart of gold. Like a faithful old sheepdog, it will get you anywhere, and do anything it was designed to, and get the flock back home again. Some of the unlikeliest heaps turn out to be some of the most trustworthy assets, given a bit of TLC. Our 885 is still in its moth eaten (cow crap rotted) tinwork (with very little reparation). One day maybe, but it stands as I remember it when my dad was still alive and looked at it and wondered what the hell we'd dragged back to our yard. Go on, give old Fud a hand to make that Massey go again. Show it you love it, and it will love you back!

[@Aaron_N111]

I reckon restore it, it's obviously had a hard life and I think it deserves a freshen up. Also there's not many around especially here in Ireland. I owen a 135 two 165 203&212 engine and I'd love to complete it with a 175 and 185.

[@thecountywilliams5098]

Just cannot imagine any parts left would be in any better shape than the quality of the welding. No, Massey. I ain't mad, an' I ain't now. That's a thing I want ya to know”.... BANG

[@FlyingFergyMan]

It will cost you more than it is worth to restore so from an economic side break it. I’m speaking from experience, I bought a 165 in similar condition and restored it. The amount of parts and time spent way exceeded the now value of the tractor. However it’s not all about the economics, if it’s a challenge your after then u have got one. Good luck guys with what ever u decide to do.

[@charleshart6992]

Excellent video - MF175 a great tractor, restored it! A proper piece of agricultural history!

[@idontgetit3739]

I was an agricultural engineer/blacksmith for many years before buggering me back up & that Massey brings back soooo many memories of having to sort out the shit bodge jobs that some farmers used to do their equipment 🤣🤣

[@scottsaunders3112]

Would be interesting to see that tractor restored mucker.

[@LordMuck]

I'm keen to see if I can get it running first

[@eddief3326]

@@LordMuck YES TRY TO GET RUNNING AND CHECK GREARS. IF TO BAD IT IS PARTS.

[@Tuscaforge]

Tractor heaven for the 175, let her rest in peace.

[@OliverLee390]

The 175 is quite a rare tractor mind, 236 engine on it too so pretty bulletproof, I'd personally restore it, not many 175s left.

[@tractorman810]

certainly seen worse, shes close to scrap, but i don’t think it quite ready yet ,i guess it depends on how much the engine needs spending on with it being seized,then of course its gearbox which is also unknown, but with yours skills between you should be easy to do ,tin works easy enough to sort by the looks of it and cheap enough to replace other bits

[@outbackmotorcyclesandengin867]

Hi, I've only just found you on KZbin and have been catching up on your videos. I run an engineering business and have two old tractors, a collection or motorcycles, some stationary engines and two classic cars so you content is bang on the money. I like the way you deal with the Internet expert's sorry idiots. I have a Nuffield 916 loader tractor that had a shot diesel engine that would cost far to much to fix. So I rebuild a 1100cc A series car petrol engine and fitted it, I was told it couldn't be done by the expert's. Well you can ,I did and everything works as it should and it doesn't look wrong. Realy nice to see a young lady getting stuck in, finding any young person who is interested these days is impossible. Keep up the good work. David

[@neilporter3286]

I would like to see you do a full restoration of the 175 - largely because it will be a challenge starting from where that poor tractor currently sits.

[@purplerunner1715]

It's always a good thing to see a complete wrecker get back to glory. I have a huge respect for people that can do that, because I know it's not an easy thing to do, and a lot of time and money goes into doing so. And it's always nice to see it being done in a world where we buy new and throw away the old nearly every single day.

[@GarethPierce69]

Break it, then use it as a donor to restore another at a better starting point.

[@jamestractorenthusiast9018]

A full restoration off the 175 would ne neat

[@heatherhunter5066]

Hand on heart I would love to see her working again, but sometimes its best to shed a tear and say goodbye.. break her for parts at least she will help another massy get back on the road,

[@dudleywordley6986]

Gotta restore the old girl..👍

[@stuartrance277]

I would like to see the tractor restored , anybody can break things up !!! Not many people have the skills to rebuild things properly, it’s so good to resurrect things that once worked & have in a sense “died “. The restoration would help others that may of never seen a rebuilding of a tractor, but always happy to go with other people’s ideas too !!

[@bmacd2112]

As much fun as it would be to watch you restore it, I think it would cost more than you could ever hope to sell it for. So unless you're doing it as a labor of love, I'd probably just save what parts you can and scrap the rest.

[@LordMuck]

If we did it, the Fudweasel would keep it.

[@garfsgarage2921]

Right on, spot on videos full of down to earth old school agricultural engineering. It would be good to see the 175 repaired to make a good basic working tractor again.

[@johnshannon8018]

Love to see the old girl restored please

[@rickymartin3460]

Restore the 175....they've given us decades of hard graft.... its our duty to keep them alive 🤘

[@akfarmboy49]

I'll be watching you restore it.

[@georgealdous23]

Aced it "is this the one bought online" "what are you on dialup" LOL

[@gmartin8240]

On the 175 you should use the good parts and scrap the rest . Well done Mucka .🔩

[@joemcgarry6915]

Restore both the 165 & 175 to a working tractor like I did with my 165. My 165 looks good but it works when I need it too.

[@davidrichardson7656]

I think it’s worth restoring , I had a 165 given me that had a seized up engine and had the engine rebuilt and is a great tractor now !

[@nicolassales8679]

A guy I know in the steam world restored a crane engine. All he started with was the jib of the crane and an engine number! You have a decent pair of industrial wheels, should be a doddle lads😱

[@mikeduin8311]

Break for parts and get another one. Nice to see the workings of that Detroit top end. All the best your Lordship!

[@alasdairvincent6248]

I had a farmer friend who had the little brother, the 135. I had the pleasure of driving it, more than once. A good tractor back in the day.

[@Ajt1994]

Be nice to see the 175 restored and my t-shirt arrived this week thanks mucker great quality thanks for sticker

[@LordMuck]

I knew the name as I was packing it 😉👌🏼 Glad you like it.

[@joeblockley9695]

I'm doing this international b414 and it a bit low in power so I did a compression test on it and... it cylinder 1 :110psi. Cylinder 2 :115psi cylinder 3 :113psi. Cylinder 4 : 20psi .... OH THATS WHY

[@bedfordpump]

Regarding the 175, I vote to restore it. Really enjoyed this video. Thank you.

[@bigjarn]

restorations are expensive fun if you have the where with all to accomplish it

[@anthonyhough1538]

Its like a rustic version of The Repair Shop

[@Countrystock]

Full restore gets my vote

[@MokesEnd]

For the cost of parts, against another 175 being "done up" you're as well off restoring this one properly from the ground up - lot of work though!

[@tompearce9000]

Great video Mucka, I'd say restore it that poor tractor has not had a nice life that's what I'm doing with my Ford 4000.

[@Mftw767]

Greetings from Ireland. Great videos. Enjoy them. Thank you for taking the trouble. When I was a boy my dad had a mf 175 on a new Holland dubble chop... It was a troublesome tractor.

[@mmusser62]

I always like showing compassion to something undeserving. You should restore this tractor as a testament to the existence of compassion in spite of bad welds and neglect.

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

I'm undeserving, can I have some compassion?

[@thegregdavieschannel]

Alternative fuels, if you can light it with a lighter or a match then a petrol engine will run on it to some degree. I've never tried running an engine on white spirits, but I've never managed to set light to white spirits with a lighter, they seem to need a bit of pre-heating or some Bill Cosby gas. That Massey 175 is in more the kind of condition I'm familiar with. Welding some round bar above and below the lifting hole in the arms is reasonably common although I've never seen it done with SS threaded bar before. I'm surprised that welds taken as well as it has. I've seen steering arms welded on before, I guess they'd previously been run slack and then couldn't be tightened properly. I've also seen a stub axle bent back before. Tractor in question had recently been converted to a 6 cylinder using a lorry engine, we hadn't realised that they'd upper the rev limiter during its time as a lorry. Anyway a junction was taken a bit to fast, the tractor ran wide and the wheel dug into the verge, it stopped the tractor pretty quickly and it rolled over. To give you some indication of the engine revs, a Nuffield 465 would do 20 mph at 2200rpm, the car behind said they'd followed the tractor at 38 on the level.

[@truckerlee47]

Head says break it up, box it up and send it. Heart says go for the resto.

[@thegregdavieschannel]

If you wanted to make a realistic tractor restoration documentary, this175 would be great as it appears to have pretty much every issue in one tractor that I've experienced across 20-30 tractor's. If it was my tractor I'd probably just get it running on an all expenses/effort spared basis and eek a bit more life out of it. Fibre optic bore scopes are really handy if you haven't already got one, you might be lucky that the engines just gummed up through standing. Something I'd quite like to try is hooking up an injection pressure tester to an injector to free a sized engine. Normal combustion pressures are about 1000 psi, 175 bar is about 2500 psi, so I wouldn't stray to far over 1000psi unless your willing to risk twisting the crank. I've previously had good experiences with using hot water in the engine and a block of ice on the piston. That engine had been left on its side and sunk into some mud next to a spring for about 20 years. It had stalactites and stalagmites in the cylinder bores. Surprisingly the crank and rods did see service again in another engine, the bores were to corroded, it would have needed about a 100 thou rebore to clean up.

[@markbowen3638]

Be good to see it restored! Make interesting content and always good seeing machinery brought back to life after years of neglect. If any one could breath life into it you can. Go for it!

[@reggiefaggart196]

Recieved my T shirt and stickers this week. Good stuff. Thank you👍👍👍👍

[@LordMuck]

Awesome! Thank you! 👍

[@jimmybroom]

Great video. It would be a shame to scrap it but sometimes they are too far gone and too expensive to repair.

[@daveshepherd5352]

The MF 175 is a rare tractor. A lot of so-called restorers would baulk at this project but I know the pair of you could bring this back to life. Restore it as it would make a brilliant series of videos 👍👍

[@ClarenceFudWeasel]

I'm tempted to go all Squatch253 on it.

[@derlclark1759]

restore BECAUSE you CAN!!!!!!!

[@oilyragsgarage7200]

Had a good chuckle at the welding, not sure if my eyes are playing tricks on me but think I saw welds on the top of the steering arms, where it connects onto the front kingpins. If it starts goes and stops, might be worth saving, but I know sometimes you cant save them all.

[@markhaines6034]

I would love to see a full restore on this. I'm hoping to do the family's 178, a series of videos would be great for me.😉

[@richardvenables9333]

Love to see her come back to life , restore her , great job 👏

[@stevehoffman9875]

I like the proper restoration.

[@michaelbradley4552]

Depends on the pocket great vid Mucker

[@niallmcmeel3563]

Would love to see it restored, the transformation from the shite heep it is now to full restoration would be amazing to follow. I've a 135 that my dad bought brand new back in the early 70's that would need about 4 grand spent on it to bring it back to glory. Some day when I have the money I'll do it, but for now the 175 would keep me entertained!!

[@brucedavenport1324]

For me , I'd like to see you get the old lass working again and his Lordship's right, those back tyres look fantastic .

[@robertbulmer2544]

Would love to see it restored to its former glory

[@guyfuller1369]

It’s been stored long enough. Time to restore the poor old bugger.

[@samuelgoddard5248]

spent most of the day in rush green motors looking at hundreds of trucks that will never run again including a rather complete pioneer so definitely give the 175 some TLC as in comparison it's a straight forward restoration.

[@JesseEder]

Great video as always I would love to see that Massey restored

[@kevinbaker6168]

LM, what I loved was when the glow plugs were bad and our "smart" mechanics got out the "Bill Cosby Party Spray" and would figure if a squirt might help, then a constant spray would be better. Yep, a there were a few times I wondered where someone was shooting their shotgun at two in the morning.

[@turnera9469]

Aye mucker! I love the content and especially the short clips!

[@niceone6blue]

Tough call on this one. I’d get rid of all the shite bodges, crap welding and f ups and put it back to working condition like the Major.

[@alanhoward387]

Very interesting to see what can happen to the Detroit Diesel injectors after sitting idle for a long period of time.

[@CZK224]

Definitely worth trying to restore. Big job and obviously going to find more problems along the way, but worth it in the end. Hate to see anything like that being scraped, thats just me. Be a great restoration for us all to follow aswell 👍

[@philipjmcloughlin2299]

Good video be nice to see the 175 restored but its lot of work to get it done 😀👍

[@billupstateny9151]

Appreciate the in-between videos that bridge the gap between the spit 'N polish keenly edited episodes. Actually quite approved of the continuity of this video but I've been accused of being easily entertained, Worse yet, not insulted by that insinuation.

[@v666edd]

I think break it! Make a goodun out of two. I’m with you on the rear wheels, they will look a treat.

[@weegrant1980]

We used to do "flammable" testing when we were young, usually involved a fire in a 45 gallon drum and chucking in aerosols/plastic bottles with various stuff and hiding behind a tree and seeing how big the flames went, not very safe but highly entertaining. As regards to the 175, a restoration would be the way to go, dont see that many nowadays.

[@andrewmason2605]

The mf 175 needed restored and repaired as old machines are getting hard to find. Tractors like the mf 175 where quite rare when new, so if the tractor was broken its lost. Keep up the good work!

[@travissullivan5476]

I have never seen a Detroit in a Massey. My 175 has the 3.9 l Perkins diesel. I love the balance and power of the 175. I use it more than my new modern tractor. And Greetings from Florida.

[@LordMuck]

Greetings ! 👍

[@adriankennelly1338]

Def restore it. That bonnet looks salvageable 😊

[@ginggur17]

Lmao, the facial expressions that speak paragraphs. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@harrysemmence5046]

Poor old 175 😅 be nice to get her running if you can bring her back from the brink. Apparently on the fuel subject Ferguson were trialing alternative fuels as early as 1950's. Four and a half acres of potatoes would produce enough to run a Fergie tractor for a year!

[@britonmachin974]

Weigh the weld in for scrap, Should give you enough to fund the restoration and have some in the pocket ffs

[@LordMuck]

😂

[@miketaylor8777]

Go for restore. Would also like to see the video of George and Lord Muck at work on that new crawler.

[@oliverbudd3880]

There's always a second life given the time and the good work you can do would be great to restore it 👍

[@mylesreid129]

Restore it, love a good challenge. This one is definitely a challenge.

[@dannichol3181]

Yeah I see the fuel mist from that injector. I thought you might have started that on lynx. Another great video

[@heavymachinery2843]

Man pleas more repair Videos our a toolbox tour would be interresting keep up the good work i realy enjoy your Videos 👍👍😁

[@team7112]

I was running my diesel pick up on paraffin and used engin oil during a time we had a diesel shortage in Suid-Afrika. If i remember correctly was a 30% paraffin 70% oil mixture. Would not do that with modern computers diesel engine. I always have lots of used engin oils that i collect for recycling.

[@boromickfc]

No peice of classic machinery should die,restore it oily rag restoration 👍

[@stevehenley4463]

Got to be a restoration don’t see many 175 s ! Around here anyway .

[@millomweb]

Those yellow wheels - can't help but think they're off a JCB !

[@LordMuck]

No totally different.

[@steveransley7227]

Would be good to see you restore it, really enjoy the channel thanks.

[@joefarrow8054]

I'd be tempted to give it a go... but then again if there's a better one available! Tricky!

[@mikejh321]

Never break a tractor so refurb it for me and love to see the transformation as you go through it

[@ianleak]

A proper little tractor, would be nice to see it restored, and up and running, stay safe mate from Lincolnshire

[@philipbutler9404]

Great video LordMuck I'd like to see the 178 restored to when it come out of factory your doing well with the major.

[@bobbalbirnie2478]

I vote restore it, too much good to break it up and it will be an enjoyable process to watch. I know, I know, selfish of me while I just sit here and all... Great channel, love every vid you generate, thanks for the ride along!

[@chrisc1700]

How about the third option......Park it in the hedge and time laps film it as it rots. to restore it would be like Triggers broom, a heap of new parts with the old serial No. on it. Cheers Keep up the excellent good work

[@derekbyers5284]

The poor old pre loved 175, needs another chance in life,& be allowed to live on for another generation, they are as rare as frog 🐸 feathers....

[@andyellis307]

Would be ashame not to restore it mucker now you got it in the shed

[@nickbaxter4460]

If it was mine I would break it for spares, would take a lot of time and effort to restore backup to scratch, as usual another good video

[@yorkshirerich2970]

Show the old girl some love, she's had a hard life so give her the works and restore her. Love the video's, keep up the good work.

[@brianmeattey4151]

Always enjoyable to see your vids ..I enjoy them much .till the next vid godbless and stay safe.

[@LordMuck]

Thanks, you too!