Massey Ferguson MF-1840 + MF-1839 Small Square Baler Walk-Around

Scott talks about the Massey Ferguson inline baler we use for producing horse-quality small square bales.

[@karlnelson6593]

Like your honesty about selecting equipment based on your need rather than your loyalty. Seems to be logical and smart from a business perspective.

[@mikep7810]

Great review on the 1840. I just saw this baler and mentioned it in a video this past weekend and someone told me to check out your channel. Awesome job, really cool setup

[@NorthTexasHay]

Thanks for watching

[@honey5bucket]

Not all of your viewers are in the hay business. Some of us are city boys learning stuff that is totally new and interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@NorthTexasHay]

+anon y mouse thanks for watching

[@DEDBRD-di4yj]

Love your channel, keep up the good work!

[@NorthTexasHay]

Thank you

[@landmarkcattle5220]

I appreciate the info on the inline baler! I use a new Holland with an accumulator. thanks for the video!

[@NorthTexasHay]

Landmark cattle thank you for watching

[@mbeckham1]

Love your video. I do squares in Missouri. I bought a john Deere 348 square baler new two years ago but I wanted the massey at the time it was a three month wait and my new Holland crapped out on me so I went with the JD. Like you said sometimes fight the bananas but mostly can adjust them out. I find it interesting how your issue in not enough rain while almost always we fight too much. Thanks for spending the time to make videos. I do about ha!f custom and half for the crazy horse people. Love your setup. Have a void season.

[@mbeckham1]

Have a great season. I hate autocorrect

[@NorthTexasHay]

mark richard thanks and I hope you have a good season as well

[@MrDaChicken]

We used Massey balers the entire time I Iived at home on the farm. Had a #12 for a long time, bought a #124 with a belt thrower when we went to thrower racks, baling 10,000-15,000 bales a year. Nice to see that the Masseys STILL don't miss bales very often. We had the same 2 or 3 a year missed, tops. And almost always because someone didn't take an extra 10 seconds to make the connecting knot nice and clean. The Massey knotter has been legendary for not missing for many years. I used John Deere balers on other farms I worked for, and their miss rate was a lot higher I found.

[@NorthTexasHay]

MrDaChicken same experience I've had

[@dennisdesloover4159]

I like your videos. Live n Houston, but I grew on the farm in Iowa.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Thank you and thanks for watching

[@leslillie9585]

Great video. I'm a new subscriber i really enjoy the videos.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Les Lillie thank you for subscribing and commenting

[@zimzim2160]

Nice straightforward look at the 1840. I like your view on brand loyalty including China crap. Thanks to you both for posting and hey to yawl from North Georgia.

[@NorthTexasHay]

zim zim hey back attcha, thanks for watching and commenting

[@danwalters9781]

1840 sent to Australia are made in China same with their small tractors

[@deanbrown4512]

I have an 1837 ,my pump leaks. I thought it was just mine. I agree with you, I truly enjoy the inline baler

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Dean Brown the pump situation is annoying enough that I would buy another brand if they made an inline.

[@ParallelAg]

We're glad you like the balers Scott and we appreciate the honest review of them. What you're doing with your KZbin channel is great!

[@NorthTexasHay]

Thanks

[@harrycrawford401]

I really like you videos, you should come up with a intro and outtro in the future sometime

[@SkyBoss52]

Love the shirt.

[@NorthTexasHay]

SkyBoss52 thanks

[@Cmoredebris]

We have an 1840 and it's worked great. In line is the only way to hay. Never had a bad bale. Like the fan, keeps the knotter clean. Tough to maintain with all the covers. Thanks lawyers!

[@NorthTexasHay]

George Dyer 10-4

[@Cmoredebris]

NTH...What grass varieties have you planted?

[@NorthTexasHay]

George Dyer coastal and jiggs bermuda

[@SoybeanFarmer3300]

I don't know the hay business but I suspect growing, cutting, raking and baling works out best after you develop a relationship with the equipment to where you know what to expect and then how to react to what you did not expect. I enjoyed your talk.

[@NorthTexasHay]

You would be right, that's a good way to look at it

[@22of44]

What model of John Deere and New Holland balers did you run? I am currently running of JD 346, it's been a great baler but I have wanted to switch to an in line Hesston.

[@ozz5350]

We miss you

[@Ford8210gen1]

Hi, I'm in the market for a new (small) baler and the MF 1840 is one of the few small balers that you can buy here in Germany/Netherlands. Youre video is very informative, thanks for that. I've got one question; Can the MF 1840 cope with realy big windrows? Greeting from Germany

[@lloydsells2161]

What camera did you use on the back of your baler, neat idea.

[@rickcampbell4920]

Hi Scott, Did you set up from scratch the rake in front of the baler or is someone selling brackets and PTO shafts to tie any basket rack with a baler? Thanks, Rick

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Rick Campbell from scratch. There are places that will do it for you but they will charge around 11 thousand and I made mine for 3800.

[@idoutdoors]

What brand of camera is that, I've been looking at those wireless type for my big baler and also, is that tank on there for preservative or something to just add moisture to dry hay?

[@NorthTexasHay]

idoutdoors the brand is cab cam. The video is wireless but you still have to run a power source. It's a preservative tank but I rarely have to use it, usually only in the last cutting of the season

[@thr8061]

Have you had any issues with the hydraulic pump on the 1840 like you had on the 1839? The chemical tank/sprayer. Was that dealer installed or did you install that? We are looking at something like that as well.

[@NorthTexasHay]

thr8061 haven't had the pump leak on the 1840 yet, and I've had that sprayer for a least ten years I just move it from baler to baler

[@centraliowahayllc3183]

What do you guys push for bales/hour? I have an 1839 and seem to only get 200/hour max. I might baby it too much! Got a ground speed or strokes/bale you like? Thanks for all you dedication to your page! Enjoy learning from the professionals!

[@NorthTexasHay]

I use a stroke counter and target is 14 to 16. You should be well into the 300’s with that baler

[@jakevimont7776]

I've never run an inline baler, but it seems much smarter!

[@silverbarnfarms5640]

Late comment, but I use an International 430 baler for the hay I sell. Brome and alfalfa mostly. I like the way the IH knotters are designed, less moving parts. What do your bales weigh? I'm trying to standardize my bales.

[@NorthTexasHay]

60 lbs

[@silverbarnfarms5640]

North Texas Hay thanks.

[@rocksandoil2241]

NH always seemed to have some issue with banana bales but hay type makes a difference. No problem in fescue, some problem in Bermuda. Real problem in finer varieties of Bermuda. My antique 270 NH breaks a bale about once every 300 bales. My JD 348 was horrible, old too but broke lots of bales and seemed constantly getting out of time or not tying. An in line would be my choice too for new.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Massey balers are nice

[@chuckstevenson2929]

Thanks for the baler reviews. It would be nice to see your pretty lady more often.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Chuck Stevenson I agree, I'll get her in front of the camera more.

[@robertbriones8342]

What is the yellow tank for on the 1840 baler I've bucked bales when I was younger but never seen that before

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Robert Briones a preservative to prevent the bales from heating when you can't dry it down properly

[@johnturner2175]

Have you ever tried to get parts thru Amazon?

[@justinadams2475]

How about a video on how you got started in hay? Where this all came from. I know it's work and stress, but I'd like to give it a try (on a smaller scale). I'm North of you by about two or three hours, but I won't hold that against you.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Ha, I will do that. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@cjboswell3405]

I am considering selling my jd and replacing it with a1840. Does it really eliminate banana bales especially when you have a variable windrow? I really enjoy your video's and would appreciate your recommendation

[@NorthTexasHay]

Cj Boswell you will never have banana bales again

[@HayMap]

Cj Boswell I second that 🤚

[@deeracres1188]

Was just curious the system your using was popular around here at one time but everyone has move towards the wagons here

[@NorthTexasHay]

Deer Acres I don't think I know anyone that does it the same way. I would like to use a bale Barron but it only accepts 34" bales and the market here doesn't take kindly to such small bales

[@tannerpace9962]

Hey Scott. I’m switching from a new holland 570 to a Massey 1838 and needing to put the preservative system on the new one. I noticed it is just like yours and was wondering if I could get a picture of how you mounted your tank on the 1840.

[@NorthTexasHay]

I can do that. Do you want me to email it to you?

[@tannerpace9962]

Yes if you don’t care to. My email is [e-mail]. Thanks!!

[@tannerpace9962]

Hey Scott. I’m wondering if my email is messed up or something. I never got an email. Just wanted to check in.

[@jackybruckers]

Hello . How much moisture may the hay contain if you use a preservative ?

[@NorthTexasHay]

If my meter reads above 13 % I would have to spray it. That doesn't mean the true moisture content is 13% that's just through my experience when I know to spray it.

[@harrisharvester]

Very interesting videos on your channel, how many bales do you make a season? Greetings from England

[@NorthTexasHay]

I can make 30,000 if things go well, but usually 25,000+

[@harrisharvester]

North Texas Hay wow! That's quite a few bales I really like your set up, I am trying to build up my hay operation I currently make between 8000-15000 depending on the weather currently waiting for the sun to return. I currently have a flat 8 accumulation system but find they don't stay on trailer to well unless a man stacks them manually, I think my bales are not firm enough what waight are your bales? Sorry for all the questions 😂

[@NorthTexasHay]

A C Harris Contracting I go by feel but 60 lb is what I shoot for

[@NorthTexasHay]

If I have to touch bales by hand I'm loosing money. Is your baler older? What brand?

[@harrisharvester]

North Texas Hay yes I have a very old Massey 124 and old John Deere 456 always liked the look of those Massey inline balers I think I could do with updateing I will have to wagh bale to see what waight I am doing. Thanks

[@matthewcloud119]

New to your channel I have a had both deere and new holland the new holland will out perform Deere if you can keep it together lol if I bought another one it would be a massy

[@NorthTexasHay]

matthew cloud 10-4 thanks for watching

[@TimMcgimpsey]

Great video. How many acres do you farm?

[@NorthTexasHay]

Tim Mcgimpsey I square bale consistently 100 acres hand have another 55 I try to bale when I get rain. I usually round bale the 55

[@TimMcgimpsey]

Thanks

[@staceygay6400]

1840My friend in north Florida has 4 1840 balers He replaced 5 JD model 348 balers the inlines work so much faster

[@esryfarms7435]

Could you do a video on the presertive tank on the baler?

[@NorthTexasHay]

esryfarms will do

[@esryfarms7435]

North Texas Hay ok thanks

[@jashealcon9450]

Just wondering if my JD 5065e will run a 1840. I'm thinking of getting one. Specs i think say 50 pto hp. My tractor has about that.

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Jashe Alcon it would be close but it sounds like it would

[@cumminspoweredab7441]

THE 5065E has 67hp unless you bale in really hilly areas I would think it would handle it easily.

[@mikemanthey1030]

Had trouble baling rye with the 1840,pickup turns to fast and it wraps under pickup shields.Also when baling in marshes if tractor sinks a little bbit the row will push under tractor.Lastlyit is an excelant haybaler but terrible in straw it grinds the straw up and were always cleaning up by elevator.Like the JD 348 for it bales every thing consistantand much less chaf

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Mike Manthey my only experience is in grass, your situation sounds tough for any baler

[@deeracres1188]

We ran Deere 348 balers for years , the last couple we were only getting 3 years out of them baling and they were wore out switched to new holland and have had better luck ower wear out time has been prolonged to 8 years just bought a new one this past June for just under 26000 . Now I've got a ? How come you don't use a stackcruiser Would cut out the double handling of the bales to get them back to the barn. We run two as far as 10 miles plus out to pickup bales

[@NorthTexasHay]

How do you get them out of the barn?

[@NorthTexasHay]

Deer Acres I'm not sure what a stack cruiser is

[@deanbrown4512]

Were you not able to repair the leak?

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Dean Brown they sold me a seal kit for 50 dollars and it didn't work. The service guy told me they haven't had good luck trying to fix them, they just put new pumps on for $900. It's my backup baler now and works fine it's just annoying to have a hydraulic drip.

[@smcox1991]

From what I've seen those bale bandits are garbage. My neighbor has one and they've used it for probably 5 years and they always have more busted packs than packs that are tied together. Funny thing is I just drove by their place today and it's parked by the road with a for sale sign. I'm glad they finally realized it's more of a headache than what it's worth. As for the new holland balers I'm very surprised to hear you had so many problems with them. I have a 575 and that thing eats 4' wide rows that are 3' tall going 2.5mph I've never had any problems. I like the ease of use on inline balers but would have a hard time getting rid of my 575. And a matter of fact I know three other ranches that have multiple 575's and 5070's to get all there hay bales and some bale 20,000+ little bales a year. But I do know when you get a lemon no matter what it is it's hard to go back to that brand.

[@NorthTexasHay]

smcox1991 I'm sure I just got one that wasn't built properly, lots of people have success with them. If you ever think about changing though give the massey a try, you won't regret it

[@HebronGrandpa]

Taken from "HAY TALK" on the pump There is a kit, it's listed in the accessories section of the parts catalog as "Tensioner - Upgrade". Part number for the kit is 700748685.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Thanks

[@whistled46]

new sub here...where are y'all from?

[@NorthTexasHay]

whistled46 tioga,tx

[@Sadams707]

RIP MR SCOTT

[@keithbrettell2058]

OneLonleyFarmer got rid of his New Holland because he had lots of problems with it. He ended up with a Krone baler.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Keith Brettell that's the big square balers, I don't think krone makes a small square baler.

[@stevek4449]

What is the PTO HP range to operate it?

[@HayMap]

Steve k 50 HP+ required per operators manual

[@stevek4449]

Cool thanks! The tractor i am looking at is the LS plus 100 in USA it is LS XP8101CPS PTO hp 82. Tractor first then eventually a baler. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYXPqIeHjbpogdU

[@blfarms1687]

Just bought a 1840,what pressure do you like to run ?

[@NorthTexasHay]

+B farms I have two extra sets of wedges in mine and I would need too check my side squeeze adjustment. I try to keep it below 250 psi and closer to 200

[@blfarms1687]

Ok, I as well have an extra set of wedges that Livingston gave me. I'll keep 200 psi in mind thanks, Been round baling for years but this "in line" baler is a new thing for me. May have to pick your brain every now & again.

[@NorthTexasHay]

+B farms would be happy to help you if I can

[@blfarms1687]

North Texas Hay , thanks I appreciate that

[@danieduplooy4406]

B farms is your 1840 also from China? I bought mine a year ago and only 2 months in they were sold for half price.. been told they are now proudly coming from China😑

[@deeracres1188]

It's the self propelled balewagon new holland makes

[@NorthTexasHay]

Deer Acres I actually used those when I first started but quickly realized that wasn't for me, also the south half of my barn isn't tall enough to dump the stacks.

[@j.b.caldwell7420]

What is the bale length you are shooting for ?

[@NorthTexasHay]

36 to 38 any shorter I can't get the weight I want and any longer the accumulator starts jamming

[@j.b.caldwell7420]

I thought you were about the standard 36". We can't haul 9' wide so we use two lengths and a cross key bale .

[@NorthTexasHay]

J.B. Caldwell I just let them overhang about a foot on each side of the trailer. I've never had a problem with texas highway patrol, but if you're talking state to state and weigh station checks they may not like it.

[@harveymaclauchlan8052]

Its almost time for a new pair shorts,,,,,

[@NorthTexasHay]

She tries but I'm stubborn

[@deanbrown4512]

Noticed you use shy preservative. John Deere can make some poor bales, I had a 346 and wouldn't go back. What hay do you spray, alfalfa?

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Dean Brown jiggs and coastal bermuda

[@deanbrown4512]

What product do you use and thanks for info on pump. I just wont try.

[@chaosengine9912]

hallo, why dont you use front and backmower at tractor? here in germany everyone does front and back. your videos are very interest for me, like it.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Chaos Engine no front pto, and my acreage doesn't justify the cost of that type of equipment. Thanks for commenting and subscribing

[@chaosengine9912]

you are sometimes spraying the hay. thats total new for me. is it for conservation if hay is not dry enough? what do you use to spray and what kind of hay does it give? like silage?

[@NorthTexasHay]

Chaos Engine it's for conservation of hay if it's not dry enough, the product I use is called crop saver sold by new holland

[@NorthTexasHay]

It's keeps bacteria from growing in the hay until it dries enough not to mold, its undetectable to a human if the bales cure a month or so. The product has a very strong vinegar type smell that will wake a dead man.

[@chaosengine9912]

North Texas Hay thanks for info, i will search for it (thougt in texas is not so much rain?) to frontmower...our fields are about half to one acre small, so mowing needs lot of time. and we say two simple mowers are same price as one luxery version. see your claas machines. factory in saulgau in about ten miles from me. i wish good time an alway running machines.(video of not running days could be funny for us)

[@markhorton4990]

Sounds like General Motors. Rack and piñon sterling gears.

[@NorthTexasHay]

Lol

[@kswaynes7569]

Many a "crook/kink in the neck" after running my JD balers and fussing with the thrower at headlands, to make sure bales hit the wagon but these inline balers look like common sense!

[@NorthTexasHay]

It has worked well for us

[@wileoverman]

Have you ever thought about putting pneumatic downforce on your balers?

[@NorthTexasHay]

I have not, what would be the advantage.

[@wileoverman]

North Texas Hay well you said you had problems with the hydraulic pump on it just another option I run one on a John Deere 336 and at the end of the day I have air to blow the baler off and you always have a air compressor at the field for other things

[@wileoverman]

North Texas Hay I have also heard that it cuts down on the wear on the plunger bearings

[@NorthTexasHay]

Wile Overman I will check into that and see what people think, the hydraulic leak doesn't cause a problem other than the mess it makes

[@deeracres1188]

We've got a telehandler with an 18 bale grab we built to move the bales around the barn was built to stack 14 high in the center and the wings are just normal balewagon stacks

[@NorthTexasHay]

Sounds like a good setup

[@nathanlink5999]

A new Holland in Indiana is 32000

[@NorthTexasHay]

That would be a no go for me

[@charlietanner6211]

knotter's look like my 570new holland

[@NorthTexasHay]

Knotters on all balers are basically the same

[@dedrakuhn6103]

something about the augers turning, haha, grble, grumble smack smack, umm....yeah....there thos. (classic not knowing what you want to say so the video became 12 minutes long)

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Dedra Kuhn thanks

[@HayMap]

There's a weld that breaks loose in the bottom of the reservoir that makes them leak. Poor design!

[@NorthTexasHay]

Hay Map - Online Ag Marketplace if I buy a new pump for it has the problem been resolved or am I buying the same problem?

[@HayMap]

North Texas Hay This is a late reply, only 2 years lol but on the newer balers they finally went to a newer pump as you may know. They should have learned years ago.

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

Bale 6 to8 ft stuff and nh will bale it

[@deeracres1188]

The bale Barron's are neat but they won't in ower market here we bale 400 acres of long rye straw a year and service the race tracks on Long Island so we try to get as much weight in the bales as we can to help spread out the cost of shipping any of the bales I've seen in the Barron packs have been way too light

[@NorthTexasHay]

Deer Acres I agree you just can't put the weight in a 34 in bale

[@zfilmmaker]

If making videos is something you want to continue, you need a better mic then what's on the camera. The right way is to invest in a wireless system. Inexpensive alternative is to buy a shotgun mic but make sure the mic is pointed in the direction of sound you want to record.

[@NorthTexasHay]

zfilmmaker I could think of a few people that would like to point a shotgun at me

[@mauserhouser]

massey knotters are far superior to the JDs IMHO

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Mauser Houser the Massey knotters have been close to flawless

[@mauserhouser]

i ran an old 128 baler for years and the neighbor ran JDs the JDs would eat more hay but he was always fiddling with the knotters sometimes for days on end. the Massey would never miss a bale as long as you didn't try to feed it too fast. when i saw your knotters i thought, they look the same as the did back in the day. you can't argue with success i guess.

[@NorthTexasHay]

+Mauser Houser true words

[@danieduplooy4406]

Your 1840 now comes from China!🙈

[@NorthTexasHay]

Please tell me that's not true

[@danieduplooy4406]

@@NorthTexasHay I bought mine a year ago and only 2 months in they were sold for half price.. been told they are now proudly coming from China😑

[@NorthTexasHay]

If that’s true I will be looking elsewhere for my next one

[@lawrencej5559]

The guy is wearing shorts. Not credible

[@Butch-fn2xr]

I can't believe that its no big deal that your new baler is down for three weeks because of a lost key out of sprocket but you rant and rave for ten minutes about latches put on backwards on a John Deere.

[@NorthTexasHay]

I believe that is fair criticism and will take my duly deserved medicine

[@NorthTexasHay]

And my wife enjoyed that immensely