Massey Ferguson Power Steering Cylinder Reseal

[@scottprimm7601]

I have to say of all the things I have ever heard on the internet not only was this very informative but your presentation was amazing. Listening to you with your positive and helpful attitude just absolutely made my day!!! I could spend hours listening to you, thanks for your help and your great attitude.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad you enjoyed it and I hope it was useful for you.

[@peterandersen1378]

Thanks for this video - it will help me re-seal my power steering cylinder for my MF 270.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad to help

[@DuncanHandley]

Thanks Lance for the clear explanation and small but important tips on good practice for those of us without formal training

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad it was helpful!

[@samiuelauasi9349]

Excellent tips and tricks. Excellent knowledge of the products and the trouble shooting. The video was worth watching to the end. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge.

[@richardmiller4547]

An excellent presentation, clear, frank and totally informative. Thank you.

[@richardstone3715]

FOUND THIS EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND GAVE ME CONFIDENCE TO TACKLE THE JOB SUCCESSFULLY CHEERS

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thats why I do them, I hope it goes well for you.

[@utulangi6078]

Thank you so much for sharing and taking your time to show this in detail. I am about to do the same job on my Massey 285. I really appreciate it. Thanks mate.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Very welcome

[@hmezzy1771]

Just a bunch of farmers thanking each other in the comment section. Such humble lads. Is this KZbin ? I think not.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yep on my channel it is. lol.

[@andreeclars5283]

After viewing this vid, im confident i can tackle the first issue with my new to me MF65. Its a 1960 model, petrol, built right here in Detroit USA. My first tractor ever. Thanks for the excellent vids Lance, I'm sure I'll be picking your brain some in the very near future. A frequent visitor to Aus I am, got ties to the NT .

[@BundyBearsShed]

G day Andree, Glad you got something useful from it. Enjoyable hobby playing with tractors.

[@flintstoneengineering]

Lots of good, well explained tips and tricks in your repair videos. Thanks for sharing!

[@BundyBearsShed]

+Flintstone Engineering Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy them.

[@wesleymcdaniel2627]

Just subscribed I had my cylander over hauled they laid b s on me. Luv your professionalism.Can tell a master when I see one . Now I can adjust my one way steering.

[@liamkelly1724]

Absolutely brilliant video 📹, just done the power steering on a massey ferguson 188. Most helpful video 📹 ever. Great guy muchas gracias amigo ✈️. Liam kilkee clare ireland 🍀 🇮🇪 😂

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks 👍

[@daveedwards6567]

Excellent work a man who has good moral s is a good man thanks allways great video's it's a shame more u tubers do make video s like yours once again big thanks

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks 👍

[@ScottT109]

Very good information you share. I have a MF 240 4wD and the steering cylinder seems to be leaking inside past the seals making it difficult to steer. I’m always skeptical buying seals fearing they are not dimensionally correct for my part

[@BundyBearsShed]

240 would be a bit different but open it up and see what is going on.

[@JFMNT]

Awesome. You helped me service the steering valve on an MF 240 today. I owe you a beer 🍺

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad I could help

[@jamielawson1680]

Great video lots of years of experience being shared honestly. looking forward to dealing with you guys regarding my MF184/4 that needs a little TLC

[@BundyBearsShed]

Look forward to it.

[@tonycroft3650]

Ordered a kit for my MF65 steering on ebay, was supposed to cover all variations. What a waste of money... the main inner seal was wrong size, o-rings were missing and ended up with a lot of left-over bits. In future will try those suppliers you mentioned. Thanks, wish I’d watched this beforehand.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Sparex seems to be the better one I find.

[@oldman5705]

The video of the rebuild is very informative. It also helps one understand just how the whole system works. Keep up the great work making video's, and best wishes.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks old Man.

[@nandooo180]

132,000 views and only 740 likes ! This is bad crack ! Lance , in my opinion, puts on a very informative and practical show on here and the least we should be doing is hitting the like button! There is very little energy lost when moving your thumb and am quite sure no thumbs have been sore after the 740 of us have pushed that little button! Far too many fantastic mechanics have taken their knowledge to the grave where it’s lost forever so let’s be thankful that Lance is sharing his and the very least we can do is move our fuc#en thumbs onto a wee button ,, it’s called manners ! It’s a way of saying thanks !

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Neily

[@1waukesha]

Watching from AB 🇨🇦. Thanks for the informative video! I was wondering if they intended the back up ring to split on purpose? I have seen many others in different applications where they are split on purpose. It basically does the same thing just easier to install it. Im about to do one of those cylinder rebuilds on a 1969 MF 165. Also doing a clutch in it, because they hit something with the mower and it had a grade 8 bolt in the place of the shear pin, so it roasted the pto clutch off the flywheel. Got my new parts, just waiting for the machine shop to finish with the flywheel! Good video! Thanks again!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Some are split for sure but they are usually split on an angle I was thinking.

[@jamesappleyard8928]

I don't know about you Lance but it pisses me off no end to purchase kits or parts only to find they are incomplete or inadequate. Good video, not my ideal job but it was nice to see someone else with hydraulic oil all over their hands.

[@BundyBearsShed]

G Day James, Yes it is a pain in the arse alright, we now try and not sell any part we know has a problem but we still get caught out from time to time.

[@jparson3309]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge my friend

[@BundyBearsShed]

My pleasure

[@mtndeer]

Love your videos great job! Have a Massey 135 1973 industrial it has a valve on the steering column with two machine services and I can’t get it to stop leaking. They sell a small kit and I’ve changed some of the O-rings and such I just can’t get it to stop leaking on the circular small plate on the bottom opposite the valve top ! the steering wheel pulls up and down. I’ve looked around and can’t seem to even find a new valve.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Im pretty sure the standard one from a 165 fits and does the job.

[@mtndeer]

@@BundyBearsShed Thank you so much that’s perfect and you just save me $300. Thank you so much! Love your channel

[@fisherslawncareservicellc2252]

i have a MF65. could you either do a video or explain how you removed the cylinder housing assembly from the tractor itself? the pin at the top of the ram and then the pinch knuckle at the bottom of the housing. thanks again.

[@BundyBearsShed]

If I get another tractor I could, I have sold this one to a mate of mine now.

[@paulvaultguy]

I'll second that, I can't determine how to remove the pins that hold them

[@motorhead6763]

Thanx for helping others

[@jeffreythomasperkins6353]

Great video, very helpful. thanks

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Jeffrey,

[@JayThompsonGoogle]

Nice video nice nuggets of information, thanks!

[@bart4707]

Thank you.

[@BundyBearsShed]

You're welcome!

[@joezaghini1612]

Thanks for the video Lance. Just finished doing a reseal on the injection pump after watching your video. Great help. Can you tell me the part number for the Sparex kit you used for this re-seal.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Sure thing S.57135

[@donmorris6783]

Do you have a part number for the power steering actuator linkage that you mentioned in this video? The ends of the turnbuckle Waller out. Thank you in advance!

[@BundyBearsShed]

au.sparex.com/linkage-repair-kit-40143.html

[@fisherslawncareservicellc2252]

I am still stuck with this particular project on my massey ferguson 50. My issue is i cant figure how to remove the power steering cylinder itself. I am talking about the same cylinder you are rebuilding here in the video. There is 1 pin at one end and 2 "pinch knuckles" around a larger pin at the base of the cylinder. How do you get these out??? I have the shop manual but it is very vague. Ive tried multiple times and am stuck. I dont want to break anything. could you please describe how you removed the cylinder from the tractor?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I dont have the tractor any more but I know they can be tight, give it a good soak with wd40 and tap it around a bit and it mat loosen up for you.

[@lavengamonu]

Bundy Bears Shed why the piston so hard to come out from the cylinder, because i trying to push out its come a little and then stop and i fell there is something stuck inside so please help me?

[@motorhead6763]

turnbuckle adjustment critical. Fixed mine . Had no power steering until adjusted.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes it is you can either have it favouring the left or right with the adjustment on that.

[@motorhead6763]

Steiner Tractor TV. Rachael fixes all equipment. Her Grandparents taught her all mechanics

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes I watch a few of theirs, We are agents for Steiner over here in Australia.

[@danielmanthi204]

Good presentation.however when shal we get the presentation of the missing parts? Again how can i get the repair kit in kenya, East africa?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I dont have any of these to work on at the moment. Look online for a Sparex dealer near you.

[@zachlutjen4595]

Thank You!!!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Zach.

[@BleuJurassic]

there are o ring tables that you can use to work out what ring to use it make the job go well when needed

[@BundyBearsShed]

+Bleu Wolf . Would you believe we have 9 o'ring kits to pick from and none had the right size, went to ENZED and no good there either but the Sparex kit came and got the job done, right size felt, right size scraper seal etc. we will use the Sparex ones in future for sure.

[@scottsmith9167]

How is the cylinder removed from the tractor?

[@BundyBearsShed]

You need to pull the pins at either end.

[@MrMurrstir]

Thank you for the video. It was helpful in a few ways, but I am trying to change seals on a small Kubota power steering unit. The circ-clips at the ends of the cylinder housing tube are on the outside, and once removed, I cannot see how they held the endcaps in place. I guess I now have to 'unscrew' the endcaps from the tube, as they do not just pull off? Do you have an answer for that part of the process? Also, when you 'lubricate' the o-rings, can I presume you just use hydraulic fluid?

[@BundyBearsShed]

+MrMurrstir G Day Murray, I dont mind at all. I cant recall doing a steering cylinder on a Kubota like that but it sounds like a few other cylinders we have come across. I think you will need to bump your gland in and you will find a wire type clip stopping the gland from coming out. Once the clip is out make sure there is not a slight burr near the clip as there often is, clean off burr and the gland should then come out is my guess. The external circlip is to stop the gland going in and hold pressure on the inner clip, the clip is often just a wire. See how you go and let me know we might be able to help someone else. I use grease or oil to lubricate the seals. I sent a reply by email as well, Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@buddhudd1054]

Love it! great vid man.

[@MrJanZko]

Very good stuff

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks for the visit

[@kristijankutlesa3060]

Pravi majstor ljep pozdrav

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thankyou.

[@orbe056970]

great video! I however have a 1969 175 which has the newer style and I'm having a problem taking the valve shaft apart! The return port in which the Massey Ferguson shop manual tells you to put a pin thru the thru hole in the shaft does not line up with the hole in the shaft. There are 2 holes that are in line with the shaft, however, they are plugged with a hardened steel ball.. what do I do?!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Not sure Ill see if I can find info.

[@orbe056970]

@@BundyBearsShed it's ok, I ended up ripping the oil seal out on the end, removing the snap ring and then the entire shaft assembly came out. Thank you for responding!

[@Masseyferguson65]

I have that valve on my mf 65 . So you know if the O ring is in (inch ) or in ( milimeter)?? Because I have bougt o ring kit in inch but I think it will not fit. Still leak's. So meby its o ring is milimeter then ..Thanks in advanse . Thanks for great video 👍👍😊

[@BundyBearsShed]

You will need to measure the old one as I cant open a kit at present.

[@Robonthemoor]

have you got a video on resealing an orbitran power steering unit?

[@BundyBearsShed]

No but I have been looking for a chance to do it.

[@Robonthemoor]

Bundy Bears Shed sooner rather than later, there must be one in a scrap yard you can rav out👍

[@francoismorin9131]

Thanks for the video! I want to convert my MF50 manual steering to power steering. I am having big trouble finding the cylinder. Up until now i know all MF50 tractor as well as MF65 share the same cylinder shape and size. The part number may be different but it only affects the internal design. Now i am trying to find the cylinder dimensions for my MF50 and use that info to find a commercially available cylinder. Could you provide the dimensions a MF50 PS cylinder?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I think 165 would fit as well

[@angeshdarsan8606]

Mr lance I need some help my ramp piston came with rings and unfortunately i cant find those rings so I was hoping you could suggest a site which I can purchase off

[@BundyBearsShed]

I would try Massey Ferguson genuine.

[@angeshdarsan8606]

@@BundyBearsShedthat the website's names

[@stjohn2455]

Very nice jobb and good detectiv woark to, i like this videos of yours. thank you many times. what is a propper oil to use in an temperature between 20 below cero and 30 abow in centigrade celcius? In advance, thank you for the answer, in the case i get one . :-)

[@BundyBearsShed]

Wow 20 below I would not be sure but I often use the automatic transmission fluid on the rear end Hydratrans.

[@stjohn2455]

Is it wrong to use a tractor combitype oil that is a bit thinner than normal tractor motor oil? On the hydrostatic stearing gear i mean?

[@josephlazzari9750]

My control valve requires you to unscrew the valve linkage end by inserting a punch through the return port to keep the shaft from turning. I can't hold the shaft from slipping. Is there a trick to performing this task or am I missing something? Thanks in advance.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Pull the turn buckle off and give it a good clean and free up the threads it will turn easily then.

[@ColKorn1965]

I'm trying to fix power steering on Massey Ferguson 230. Basically there is no steering. No leaks anywhere, pump is full, but will not turn either left or right except when I jack up front of the tractor. Any ideas?

[@BundyBearsShed]

G Day Col, When the tractor runs can you see the oil swirling in the pump canister? Check if it comes better when you rev the arse of it and also make sure you grease the front end in case you have tight king pin bushes or the king pin thrusts have fallen apart. If the king pins were stuck you would probably hear the engine load up a bit trying to turn them. You may just have a worn out pump, a sigh of that would be the pump getting quite warm and the engine not loading up at idle when you try and turn.

[@ColKorn1965]

I will try your suggestions. King pins are greased and easy to move the wheels with my hands when I have front jacked up, even with the engine running.

[@motorhead6763]

ColKorn1965 turn buckle slop in pin holes. Mine had same issue.

[@michaelhoenes6107]

thanks!! great job!!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Michael.

[@RichardMouser]

Thank you, very informative video, your extra tips about o-rings and such are pure gold. Do you ever hone the main cylinder? That is something I did on brake systems on old cars.

[@BundyBearsShed]

G Day Richard, Yes when they need a hone for sure, even with a slight groove the hone can take any sharp edges away that might cut an O ring.

[@leeroyexcavator9149]

I have a 175 MF but cylinder looks different. It has hoses with 90° tips on them that are leaking can u tell me what type of orings I need? Cant find any that fit locally. Thanks

[@BundyBearsShed]

There were a few different rams that looked very similar, You will need to take the O rings to a hydraulic place and have them matched up.

[@leeroyexcavator9149]

@@BundyBearsShed well that is my problem they were ruined when I took the lines off, I have nothing to go by. I just know regular orings dont work but thanks for reply.

[@fisherslawncareservicellc2252]

thanks for the video

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks for watching and commenting, .

[@laurobelrecordingstudio]

So here we are in 2021 and I brought the same Bareco kit to find the same issues with a thin o ring and thin back up washer for the gland. My kit also had a hard neoprene dust excluding seal, not sure if that was supposed to be a softer rubber like the one in your kit? Another issue I found in my kit which I wasn’t entirely sure of was the seal that sits behind the dust excluding seal on the ram shaft had a noticeable taper on one side, like it is meant to clip into a lip but there isn’t a lip for it to fit into. I noticed the same seal in the kit you got in the video did not have the taper….so I’m wondering if it is for a different ram.

[@BundyBearsShed]

There are 3 or 4 different rams and the kits try to cover them all but often dont quite get it right. The Sparex worked well for mine in this instance but I know it is not always the case.

[@chrisdowe4725]

Hi I have a 135 UK having trouble with the power steering. I changed the o ring I the valve cause it was leaking out the top. Doesn't leak anymore but steering is heavy. Any ideas?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Not sure if it is only hard one way it is the turnbuckle adjustment , you havent put the pipes on back to front have you?

[@chrisdowe4725]

@@BundyBearsShed no I'm pretty sure I put them in the right hole. Not a lot of room to mix them up.

[@MrTbone7620]

Got another problem.. when using my massey 150 if it stalls or i shut it off when hot, i have to use starting fluid to start it right away. or wait an hour to cool off to start. everyone i talk to has never herd of it,

[@BundyBearsShed]

Try tipping water over the injector pump to cool it down and see if that makes a difference, if it does the pump head is worn. Make sure the engine is stopped before tipping water on it.

[@MrTbone7620]

I will try .. if it turns out to be bad do you recommend rebuilding or getting a new one

[@MrTbone7620]

yes it worked after water, what you think, replace or rebuild or can you rebuild that part?

[@BundyBearsShed]

The head of the pump is worn then. You will need a new pump. I think now a days you can get a new aftermarket pump for less than it would cost for a new head and to rebuild your old pump.

[@MrTbone7620]

ok. thanks much

[@theboat-7.5airriderbuild88]

Awesome thank you

[@BundyBearsShed]

No problem!

[@hasanbhgbhjg]

مرحبا بك في برنامجك الجميل أود أن أكون صديق لكم حسن من ليبيا

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thankyou.

[@johnpavon799]

What size tractor did your cylinder come off of? and did you have trouble steering? or just saw an oil leak?

[@BundyBearsShed]

+John Pavon The cylinder was of a 100series Massey Ferguson not sure of the model noe may be a 165. The cylinder was just leaking.

[@tomguy9092]

Ur main piston has a rubber o ring mine has 2 steel piston rings what’s the difference.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Over the series they must have changed suppliers of the cylinder. The O ring has a full seal where some cast rings have a gap but apart from that Im not sure.

[@parakramasenevirathne5676]

I bought a M F 165 PERKINGS 212 TRACTOR. I DID SOME. POWER STEERING PUMP REPEAR WORK . SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT OIL SHOULD I USE,( POWER STEERING OIL OR. HIDROLIC OIL) THANKS

[@BundyBearsShed]

It will not matter, I like to put the same oil as the back end in mine.

[@parakramasenevirathne5676]

Thanks, but I would prefer a firm answer please, POWER STEERING OIL OR HIDROLIC OIL? THANKS @@BundyBearsShed

[@tt600pch]

@@parakramasenevirathne5676 I was looking for same thing. I found a link to a service manual for a 165 that states "type A" transmission fluid.

[@parakramasenevirathne5676]

@@tt600pch thanks, l am from SRILANKA .I wonder what A type oil is , what we have in SRILANKA is. 90 is thiker. ,50 is medium ,,,40 is less thiker. And there's HIDROLIC , power steering oil

[@tt600pch]

@@parakramasenevirathne5676 The only other information I see that is consistent is hydraulic oil will work as long as all other oil is out of the system. I have work on heavy equipment and used oil from 10 wt to 32 wt. We run 32 exclusively at the plant I work at. We have temperatures ranging from 100 degrees F to -20 F with few hydraulic issues. I hope this makes sense.

[@shalensharma636]

Is there a pressure relief valve on this

[@BundyBearsShed]

In the pump.

[@garrythompson475]

got a 1984 270 Ferguson. The pin (that attaches the cylinder to the mount) on the ram end of the cylinder is broken off about halfway through. Is there a trick to getting that out or do you have to take the front end of the tractor apart? I've tried penetrating oil and a magnet no success yet.

[@BundyBearsShed]

G Day Garry, They can be very tight, try heat or can you weld onto the pin at all

[@EduardoramonJaramillolopez]

😂I have a little problem with the steering of an mf 590, the steering crosses to only one side, give me a solution

[@BundyBearsShed]

Addjust the turn buckle that works the valve.

[@MrTbone7620]

Need some help with my 150 ,, looks almost the same as that one. i think its the main shaft seal. it doesnt look like it comes apart like that one.

[@BundyBearsShed]

G day MrTbone, There is a couple of different options for sure. Feel free to send a pic to [e-mail] and I may be able to head you in the right direction.

[@MrTbone7620]

Ok thank you!

[@johnjohnson-ep9rt]

Where can I get one of those turn buckles I'm in Texas

[@BundyBearsShed]

Look for a Sparex dealer they will have them.

[@physics18bravo]

Hi Lance this is a really interesting channel. Do any of your videos apply to a MF 204? I have a reverse o matic gas. Quick question for you. When I press the gas on my tractor it does nothing for a bit, but then all of a sudden it just grabs and goes pretty fast. It seems there is no in between on acceleration. Any idea how I can get it to be smoother?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I don't have any videos o these. I would look at the oil and the screen first but you possibly have a worn torque converter or similar.

[@physics18bravo]

@@BundyBearsShed Thanks for the reply! I’ll take a look at the screen.

[@joetiller1031]

Guess you know where to get your kits from now on.

[@fegolem]

I'll be resealing a MF 285 dual steering cylinders soon. I'll need to figure a fix for the terrible slop in the mounting bolts.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes with steering you need to find every little bit of play and repair it to have good steering especially if you are driving on the road.

[@Schwass35]

Lance, is this similar for a 135UK?

[@BundyBearsShed]

No not really as the power steering valve is on the steering column.

[@rogerwilliams2270]

How to remove sterling Cylinder from 1965 ferguson tractor tractor

[@BundyBearsShed]

Sometimes the pins can be stuck but that is the main issue I have come across.

[@rogerwilliams2270]

Mr Bundy, I am fairly certain I can rebuild the cylinder . My problem is I can’t get it off the tractor, any help?

[@timothyschulz4730]

What model is this from

[@BundyBearsShed]

This was a 165 I think from memory.

[@timothyschulz4730]

@@BundyBearsShed do you have a number as I'm chasing that part that the wiper seal goes into...

[@BundyBearsShed]

call the shop on 1300 850 097 I dont do the parts side now a days.

[@motorhead6763]

I have video on lift pump rebuild and cover piston 165 MF.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yep I had a look yesterday.

[@doriencole7752]

Steering not turning

[@BundyBearsShed]

Piston come of the end of the rod or the valve is not working.

[@hasanbhgbhjg]

ممكن تحويل اللغه بلعربيه

[@BundyBearsShed]

I think you can choose to do that in the settings

[@garynunnery1144]

150

[@BundyBearsShed]

MF 150?

[@JayThompsonGoogle]

Nice video nice nuggets of information, thanks!