MASSIVE Lashup of Ten EMDs, Five PRLX SD70M-2s Stalling and Howling in Notch 8

[@LocoPro]

For clarification, of the ten locomotives seen in this lashup, five of them were dead in tow, those five being the ex-NS PRLX SD70M-2s that are being moved onto CSX trackage. The SD40-2s and GP38-2s on the front were all online, but when they were leaving the yard, only two of the five were running (the first and third engines, indicated by the exhaust stacks). As a result, despite the abundance of online power, only 2/5 was actively pulling the train until the engineer got out and did some work, thus why they were struggling so much.

[@user-Colhchim]

Там был ещё один под номером 6103. Тоже пыхтел.

[@LocoPro]

@@user-Colhchim Все они «пыхтели», но тянули только двое.

[@user-Colhchim]

@@LocoPro откуда такая осведомленность? Вы что там были,присутствовали?

[@LocoPro]

@@user-Colhchim Да, это было мое видео. Я мог видеть выхлопные трубы и слышать, какие двигатели тянули, когда они проходили мимо.

[@animaltvi9515]

Just shows alot of people don't actually read the comments especially the first one, before commenting. 😅

[@Railfan6675]

Great video. It’s often hard to capture the awesome sound of the engines. You did a pretty good job here!

[@chrisshaw4228]

Sitting behind the liqour store watching trains ! My favorite thing to do when I visit my daughter. There is a nice bench if you go the same direction as the 10 engines. Bench is behind parking lot next to the bar ! Very comfortable

[@RobertValinsky]

Love the sound of those EMDs in notch 8. The ammeters must be in the red zone.

[@peterscandlyn]

I'd swear that some of the axle ends were in the red zone too. Not all.

[@nlo114]

Traction motor smoke...

[@mshum538]

I railroaded for 40 years and have been retired for 11years now and when engines were dispatched in a larger consist they were moved as a “ lite engine move “. What you have observed here is wasteful, very time consuming and dangerous nonproductive… It’s all about the numbers today, velocity, dwell time and the reduction of crew dispatchments ….I can remember very well when we actually railroaded, operated cabooses and were customer friendly…Today you have the “ iron fisted ex military “lacking sensitivity “ trying to manage a very dangerous unsafe environment and while this comment sounds negative it is not meant to be, I have service personnel in my family growing up and I had no problem working 12 hours a day I ate it up…still a good place ( nicer AC engines ) to work, good day …👍

[@backalleyrailroading2835]

That's some insane power... Cool clip !!

[@dahouse3324]

Nice lashup and light powermove

[@greglenning2636]

A picture of trains. WOW!!?

[@leecarlson9713]

That is so cool, a three train meet!

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Cool..Heck of a catch.

[@Lonewolf-allthewayUP]

A bruh moment in epic proportions EMD-ly.

[@I_HateClickBait]

Nicely stated!

[@johnpapa1916]

Great video Thank you

[@zacharycalgher3978]

I believe the SD70M-2s are going to Progress Rail for the SD70ICC rebuild program.

[@LocoPro]

That would make sense, seeing that they are in PRLX markings.

[@charliebrooks2570]

Very good catch! So many EMDs!

[@93greenstrat]

I bet you all the steam enthusiasts are having a field day with this one.

[@Toledo1940]

YES, we are!!!!!

[@joepinto509]

Oh yes we are🤣🤣🤣

[@JHZR2]

Can you explain? Genuinely curious. I love these rail videos but don’t know much about it. Thanks!

[@Toledo1940]

@@JHZR2 A steam locomotive has a soul, but a diesel does not.

[@HashDogg06]

@@Toledo1940 That's not what he was getting at & you know that, at least make the effort for the guy.

[@gaius_enceladus]

Great video! I'm a NZer and when I visited my relatives in Canada in 2002 I loved seeing the huge locos pulling trains alongside the Bow River in Calgary. Great to see - much better than our boring locos in NZ!

[@FlyBikes089]

Wow impressive and, nice catch! Cheers David from Maryland, USA! 👍🔥

[@128789842]

The diesel power is indispensable for the global economy… 🚂💪➡️👏👏

[@kc8rbk73]

Great catch!

[@FXE4007]

BROOOTAL! insane way to show power, I love EMD engines 😎

[@M22OHIO]

One of the things that gets missed is the railroad from a business standpoint really doesn't care about power ratings and mathmatical formulas for how much power to really move a train for ease of use and all that kind of thing, all of that means nothing to them. They want maximum utalization of what would be considered "heavy assets". So why tie up 4 locomotives to move a train when we can tie up 2 locomotives and get the job done, oh sure it may take a little longer and be harder on the crew, but that's no concern of there's the crew is here to work and we pay them good money so they can earn it and struggle through and if they can't get up the hill or whatever, then we can just divert power from a passing train to help push them up the hill and then both trains can be on the way and we can run more trains and make more money. The railroad isn't going to tie up 4 locomotives when 2 will get it done just so the crew has an easier time getting a low priority manifest train across the road. The railroad doesn't care about beating on equipment either the equipment only is going to last as long as it's going to last anyhow is how they see it. Now if it's a highly profitable high priority unit train or intermodal train that's a little different, or some customer that the railroad decides is a baby to them, then it's different. But they figure to waste a bunch of power so we can get some low priority manifest train to the yard easier and faster when in all likely hood the low priority train is going to sit for a day or 2 before we start breaking it apart and delivering the cars really doesn't matter to them how fast the train gets over the road. Especially the one and two car load customers that are low volume buyers. Or taking a string of empty box cars or whatever to a yard when they are sitting because they use them in that area eventually, not a priority not something they are going to want to divert a lot of resources and time to.

[@HD4lyfe]

You know that train had to be damn heavy to have all that power down on it's knees crawling like that!

[@tomt9543]

Pretty sure the PRLX units are dead.

[@LocoPro]

Only two of the units were actually running. Five of the ten were dead in tow, and only two of the five units in the front that were all online were actually pulling until the engineer got out and did some work.

[@snydedon9636]

@@LocoProyou can tell which two locos were running by the lack of exhaust on the rest.

[@HD4lyfe]

@@LocoPro Ok. That makes more sense now lol.

[@tonnage4u]

From what I've seen and heard over time, this is classic NS, not understanding or ignoring power requirements.

[@iBackshift]

Suuuuuuuuper good capture. Happy there was no chugging GE's to muddy the sound of those EMD's.

[@kellyblacklock7167]

Looks like a very steep approach to the main!

[@EntertainmentWorldz]

super video bro

[@MuscleLineRailfan]

I'm sure you're aware of this already, CSXT1869 is 2 of 2 on B622-29 with CSXT4580 leading, fresh SD70... I believe this goes through Atlanta

[@ЛЬВИНИ]

Nice video, likes from me !

[@KevinRichards-my5oj]

Imagine getting stopped at a rr crossing by a train with that many engines hooked together. It'd make you think there are a thousand railcars behind those engines.

[@KTnc-f4z]

Great video

[@edy21865]

This just shows how stingy NS is about it's locomotive power. It forces every railroad engineer to use the bare minimum despite there being abundant power and only allows them to activate another engine when the train stalls.

[@robertartac1853]

I guess the bean counters figure traction motors and machinery is cheaper than fuel.

[@LisbonRailProductionsandF1]

Ten locomotives on the mashup, thats insane, like it 5 stars. Thumbs up. Keep up the perfect work, my friend, liked and subscribed, Greetings from Portugal to the USA.

[@davidbrown4823]

Talk of a WOW of a Lash up.

[@davidfry145]

Love the GP 38 exhaust sound

[@truckinpoppop6777]

Would’ve been interesting to hear the radio traffic on that one.

[@LocoPro]

"SOS. Please send help."

[@electrictractiontrainsandt3063]

Super catch! Awesome! 👌👍

[@Toronto_Railfan]

Yup that’s EMD For Sure.

[@CTK1201]

All of that damn power and he has the lead SD40-2 and a GP38-3 online...AND the High and Wide behind the 70M-2s?! Come Onnn NS, Do Better!

[@SuperOwensTrainsYT]

4:24 Triple Train meet?! Awsome!!

[@KCTopDawg]

And you got a 3 train meet

[@worfsonofmogh1154]

with the war bonnet

[@fredburban8219]

Looks like yhe lease is up and those 5 trailing locomotives are headed to PRLX. For update & new leasees.

[@Joe-w8c9f]

Awesome!

[@davidpearson3304]

Those GE’s at the end be like “excuse us, coming through, make a hole” 😂😂

[@michaellindsey8769]

That crazy they needed big boy to help them

[@ShawnCalay]

Reminds me of when dad worked on the rock island.... deferred maintenance at its finest....lets hope the government takes this railway over and reforms it....

[@adensrailfanningproductions]

Conrail 2? Lets go!

[@LanternSignals]

Having worked for the NS I can tell you for certain that the NS will try to do the bare minimum. Shot you a subscribe.

[@sop2510]

I’ll bet those Hot Engine alarms are going off.

[@marcus_rrp_productions2648]

All that power and its still too heavy? Good god.

[@LocoPro]

Five of the units were dead in tow (those M-2s), and only two of the first five units were actually pulling for some reason.

[@OutdoorsSC]

How do you know the details of the trains? I have trains that pass through Clemson everyday and still do not know the engine types or what we haul the most. We do love our Clemson Tigers!!

[@LocoPro]

Hey there. Trains call out signals with their IDs, and the same trains tend to have similar power arrangements and loads. Most of the trains in Atlanta, I'll admit, I don't know (nor care to know) the IDs of. The trains that run via my area (and likely run through yours since you're in Clemson) I can identify just by the loads and knowing what direction they're going. There are also plenty of people who you can leach off of for information. 😂

[@pauljones2762]

How many handbrakes were left on,found that was a problem with trains put together in a yard then turned over to a road crew.

[@LocoPro]

It wasn't a handbrake issue, more like an isolated power issue from my observation. Five units were online, but it appeared three of them were isolated and not running.

[@Bob-j5o3b]

Hard to believe the generator or motors don't give out

[@charliebrooks2570]

Here in Georgia I see mainly NS and a few CXS!

[@michaelnotigan7796]

3:59--Cowardly GE's caught taking the easy way out by going downhill LOL!

[@user-vh1uc6in7b]

Wow 😳

[@schrap72]

I’m in love 😍 😍😍😍

[@3006USMC]

So much HP in run 8 I had to SUB.🇺🇸

[@LocoPro]

Appreciate it. :)

[@georgiatrainz4517]

Most normal day in Atlanta:

[@kambour1]

If 5 engines were in tow, was that the reason for the stall? What are the power requirements to tow an engine vs rolling-stock? Just curious.

[@LocoPro]

The main reason for the stall was that despite five of the first units being online, only two were actually pulling. These units are old and of a lower horsepower rating to begin with, so when only two of them are running when there should have been five, you get results like this.

[@beeble2003]

Five locomotives in tow is over a thousand tons.

[@nathanielbolden5053]

I see those poor SD40’s and what looks like GP38’-40’s struggling to pull 5 SD70’s plus train!…cruel just cruel!

[@kal-luisilva3532]

SHOW VÍDEO SÃO PAULO BRASIL

[@PropelleredDash8]

I saw 8 CSX AC44CWS leading a train and the first 4 were pulling the train

[@gabrielgani4779]

9 locos ? Damn 🎉

[@LocoPro]

*10 😂

[@TomPauls007]

I noted that not all the engines were active (by looking at the exhaust stacks). Did the engineer start up more units? Oil the turbos for more power?

[@LocoPro]

Yeah, for some reason only the first and third engines were pulling even though the first five were online. After they initially stopped, the engineer got out and must've unisolated those other units because they eventually got moving.

[@Twostrokefan]

Awesome

[@mfgc2610]

First locos just trying to pull start the rest!😂😂

[@rickchapman9232]

How many locomotives did they have on the head end,were they all running ? Did they have any more in the train?

[@shaunwilliams4231]

Good question, they all don't seem to be running

[@LocoPro]

10 locomotives in total on the front, five dead in tow. Of the five that were online, only two appeared to be actually pulling until the engineer got out and did some work.

[@NorthBay43]

It’s a heavy train i know

[@McBain-qe2jh]

A lot of everything in that vid.

[@sawspitfire422]

Do ya have a long form version of this video? I'd love to see the whole process without any cuts

[@LocoPro]

I have a video discussing the whole story behind this train here: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnmmfoODiZmah5I If you want just raw footage of the train stalling here though, this is as much footage as I have.

[@johndokoupil8414]

All that power but still the coupler on the last power unit is pulling the entire train.

[@LocoPro]

Five of the units were dead in tow (the last five), and only two of the first five units were actively pulling.

[@haroldreardon8070]

NOT all units are on line and the PRLX units are not even running obviously. No batteries in one view.

[@infledermaus]

Are the trying to pull a town up that hill? Scotty, get the riding crop would ya?

[@voidwalker9223]

Curious is this really bad for the traction motors? I heard going full throttle at low speeds burns these up very quick

[@LocoPro]

Especially since these are DC, absolutely. Eats away at the brushes inside of the motors and they get really hot.

[@SimplyTakuma]

How much power you need? Yes.

[@jjfreight-trains]

Can someone explain what they are doing. Why so many connected. Why carriages also attached behind. Why are they not all running?

[@LocoPro]

So, this was a transfer run from NS to CSX. The five engines at the end and the rest of the cars behind it were all to be dropped off on CSX trackage. The five units on the front were supposed to be the ones actually powering the train. As for why only two of those first five were actually pulling, I have no idea; regardless, that's the reason they were making so much noise and having so much trouble getting out of the yard.

[@robertbate5790]

Seems someone doesn't know how to calculate train load to power required. Great sounding result though. 👍👍👍👍🇬🇧

[@robertbate5790]

@@jkeelsnc 10mph, holding up other traffic in the process, lol. Staff, not a railman in the job. Lol 🤣

[@weldonparmley8147]

The power of GENERAL MOTORS !

[@hawghead4596]

How many of those locomotives were FRA “dead”? FRA has a rule about the number of days locomotives can operate between inspections. 30, 60, or ninety day inspection period is up, the locomotive cannot be operated until it is inspected. In the summer time, the water has to be drained so that the locomotive cannot be started and used. If the locomotive that is FRA dead is used the railroad is heavily fined.

[@LocoPro]

Pinned comment should answer your question. :)

[@anthonypaparo1975]

Kinda looks like our government. Fool speed ahead and going no where. 😂

[@Rickytrainwrestlingfan55]

How can we watch the whole video

[@LocoPro]

In terms of the actual raw footage, that was all I had filmed of the locomotives stalling. The full story can be viewed here, though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnmmfoODiZmah5I

[@wjustice9188]

What yard is this at? That looks like quite a steep little grade on that one track.

[@LocoPro]

@@wjustice9188 Inman Yard, and yeah the grade coming out the south end of the yard is not for the weak.

[@tedhansen3846]

One and three are "Mothers" and two and four are "Slugs"

[@LocoPro]

None of these are actually slugs. You can tell because they all have radiator fans, which are absent on actual slugs.

[@jmackb650]

Pulling max amps? What time length?

[@LocoPro]

Time length as in?

[@HarrisburgRailfanProductions]

Question, do u have discord because I’m going from Maryland-Georgia through all the states to the popular spots and I’m going to Atlanta so I was wondering if u can give me some tips about going there.

[@LocoPro]

I do have Discord. My Discord name is Jesus Christ in Hebrew (no spaces, two words). Before you even decode that, I'll at least you give some good spots: Dalton Atlanta (Howell Wye, Inman Yard) Cordele Doraville Folkston/Waycross And if you find me we can keep discussing. ;)

[@HarrisburgRailfanProductions]

@@LocoPro Alrighty, I sent you I friend request if u wanna continue this and discuss it more.

[@HarrisburgRailfanProductions]

@@LocoPro And, I don't know if it sent because my discords has been bugging a bit so just reply back if it doesn't or if it worked just wanted to add that.

[@LocoPro]

Yeah, I didn't get one.

[@HarrisburgRailfanProductions]

@@LocoPro Ah, I sent a request to one so must be the wrong person.

[@aaronharvey7523]

Mmmmm... Not sure why more weren't under power... Can see the heat haze through the rake... I did notice the drive tyres were really thin.... Not much meat on the wheels....

[@DioHolyDiver83]

Critical Alarm Critical Alarm Critical Alarm *Break*

[@Peter-xo6bn]

Where is this paticular location.

[@LocoPro]

Howell Wye in Atlanta, GA. 1015 W Marietta St NW Atlanta, GA 30318 United States

[@Bob-fx8bv]

@@LocoProThank you.

[@golfberg1]

Anyone know this location ??

[@LocoPro]

Howell Wye. 1015 W Marietta St NW Atlanta, GA 30318 United States

[@Canadiannationalproductions101]

Dang

[@lequory]

Atlanta? Howell Junction or whatever its called

[@LocoPro]

Yeah, Howell Wye. 😂

[@lequory]

@LocoPro I knew it was Howell something lol. I've only been there once back in 2017, I believe. It defines was before they had any businesses open up in that parking lot

[@Detroit_railfanfilms]

Quick question. What camera do you use?

[@LocoPro]

Canon G70.

[@josephseverino674]

That tranformer on the center depressed flat car was really cool its has to weigh 200,000 lbs ? Great video 👍

[@UnionPacific1988]

Loco can you watch Crescent 19 and 20 sometimes in your videos

[@LocoPro]

If I see it. 😂 Don't worry, we'll have more Amtrak footage on the channel eventually. ;)

[@中垣陽介]

先頭の機関車だけで・・・10両もつながっている〜😲

[@LocoPro]

機関車は 10 台ありますが、実際に何かを行っているのはどういうわけか 2 台だけです。😂

[@BNSET44AC]

WHY IS A SD40-2 PULLING THE TRAIN🤦🏽‍♀️💀

[@LocoPro]

This is a local, so it's almost always being led by a SD40-2.

[@joshthetrainfan]

Where are these PRLX units going?

[@LocoPro]

I believe Indiana for rebuilds, but I could be mistaken.

[@joshthetrainfan]

@@LocoPro SD70ICC?

[@mattd5681]

They just spraypainted out the NS for the PRLX 😂

[@demil3618]

How do you know which notch it was?

[@LocoPro]

@@demil3618 The sound of the engines, you can cross reference the audio. Also, just logically, if the train is pulling that hard uphill and it’s not moving, the engineer is probably using the maximum effort it can to even just be crawling.

[@demil3618]

@@LocoPro But it could have been notch 12 or 15 or 7 etc...

[@LocoPro]

@@demil3618 The maximum notch is notch 8.

[@demil3618]

@@LocoPro That's why I was asking- how do we know? It would also depend on the type of loco.

[@LocoPro]

@@demil3618 All diesel locomotives go from notches 0-8 in North America. It’s just the standard.

[@RedArrow73]

Location? This should be automatic if a key site, thx.

[@LocoPro]

Howell Wye. 1015 W Marietta St NW Atlanta, GA 30318 United States

[@beeble2003]

What's the thing on the roof at 2:55?

[@LocoPro]

That's where the horn usually goes, but they removed it.

[@acts2211]

Looks like sd70 were offline

[@moestrei]

First one was a steam engine.