Massive Order, 737 MAX Delays & Norse Atlantic News

[@ihmcallister]

The 'parked' American A321neo fleet is the 10 ex-Virgin America examples they acquired from Alaska Airlines.

[@afb2]

Ah that makes sense

[@greenthing99100]

always interesting - thanks very much

[@Anand-cx8po]

American also talking with Airbus for A359 to replace the 777-200ER's. Don't want to be dependent upon 787 solely is what the reason they are quoting.

[@spookyweirdo6650]

Curious how the 90 day timeline the FAA gave Boeing to submit a safety plan will affect their plans

[@747forever9]

Ty dj!!

[@Dan.d649]

Hopefully Allegiant Airlines will get those 737-MAX aircraft. They placed an order for these airplanes back sometime in 2022.

[@afb2]

And I heard they originally wanted to go with the A320neo but the backlog was just way too long. Really tough situation for them right now.

[@AriaBathory]

If i am an Airline owner i will never trust the lives of my client & the future of my company on 737 max.....Airbus?👍👍👍😁😁😁

[@joeschmoe21]

Lufthansa, the German Airlines, just ordered 100 737 Max November last year. Lufthansa had not ordered any 737s for 30 years. What does Lufthansa know that you don't? Ignorance is a bliss

[@AriaBathory]

@@joeschmoe21 well good luck on Lufthansa it's their choice not mine...as for me I'll prefer Airbus A321 & A350 all day....No offense but I wan't Boeing to regain it's reputation because the first plane i rode was a Boeing 737...and I loved that plane...

[@SF_EAGLE]

Why doesn't Airbus expand their production capacity, build more factories? Considering their backorders and huge demand, It seems to me that an investment in expanding production would be worth the investment.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

The problem is that the supply chains and engine makers couldn't keep up

[@afb2]

In addition to what @EuropeanRailfanAlt said, these factories don't just get built overnight. Would literally take years to get them online and to staff them.

[@jameshannay7376]

They have been expanding production. For about 6 years now, too.

[@phildane7411]

They are expanding production, but doing so at a sane and sensible rate.

[@hbhomer]

As usual, armchair strategists and analysts in the comments teaching airlines how to do their operationd lol

[@RichL8223]

Biggest mistake Allegiant did was order that plane, they could have waited on the new 320 from airbus by the time they get any max’s they could have stated taking delivery on the new 320 neo, split fleet doesn’t and will not work at that airline should keep one type as small as that airline is.

[@rajaampattravel]

keren bang

[@melbournechugging2999]

American we are buying new 100 aircraft from Boeing and Airbus ok we want 99 a321xlr and 1 737 max 😂

[@JuniorRD1994klk]

😅

[@Aviation_of_Houston]

Bro what is going on with Boeing and Boeing 737 MAX delivery delays!!!!

[@wadehiggins1114]

That program needs to be canceled!

[@6ftgemini838]

Idk if you ever tried yourself but building an airplane isn't easy

[@wadehiggins1114]

@@6ftgemini838 boeing's way is easy! Leave out a few bolts

[@travelingadler]

Im an American Airlines shareholder and frequent flier. Ive been following this for awhile now. The fleet of a319s they have from US Air merger are getting old. As it stands now only 61 a319neos have been ordered with a backlog of only 44. American airlines has over 130 aging A319s right now. In light on the 737 MAX 7 still not being certified and the backlog on that type being so much longer I hope they order the A319 NEO to replace those with. The A319s American Airlines have which Ive flown on have allowed them to fly long low density routes between Dallas and Bangor, Maine for example. Likewise short frequent routes.

[@wadehiggins1114]

That would be great for the A319 NEO! The only reason why the max is getting orders is because of the NEO's backlog. Allegiant had to settle!

[@jgnclvgmng5408]

@@wadehiggins1114 How the mighty fall. Boeing has been living mostly from the scraps of orders of what Airbus can't supply in the short / medium terms.

[@alvinloh9068]

@@jgnclvgmng5408 Please refrain from telling the truth! It’s hurting Nick Olliver’s fragile ego, and he’d be crying all over the place again and again.

[@wadehiggins1114]

@@alvinloh9068 he's hiding 😂

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

@@alvinloh9068 Can't wait to see him, gotta say hi

[@jgnclvgmng5408]

This will be milked to oblivion to create hype news. The only interest is when the final decision and real order is made, not vaporware.

[@buckshot6481]

If you fly a 737 MAX remember your a womble.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

What is a womble

[@mohwybar5832]

I flew on the other week

[@wadehiggins1114]

What is that?

[@ryanlittleton5615]

Git gud

[@achmedbincouscous2846]

**"You're"

[@AaronHarberg]

BOE Aviation shows one completed MAX for Allegiant, only needs paint.

[@jantjarks7946]

You mean bolts.

[@electro_sykes]

Norse is owned by Norwegian as part of restructuring it was spun off into a seperate subsidiary

[@tktheo1386]

NAS is a separate company these days, and Norse it not it's subsidiary.

[@electro_sykes]

@@tktheo1386 it is partially owned by norwegian (but only about 20%)

[@adambahouche366]

when’s new virgin Australia other 737maxes being delivered

[@MG101]

VH-8ID is the next one which is currently in Seattle where it arrived on the 6th of Feb

[@grahambaker6664]

From the reviews I have seen Norse Atlantic appears to offer a superior product on its OSL-BKK service than Scoot's SIN-ATH and SIN-BER services. I think they should consider dropping Atlantic from their branding and consider offering more flights to Asia on a full year service basis and possibly on unserved or underserved routes. For example, OSL-ICN, OSL-HND, OSL-SIN, OSL-CCU, OSL-DEL, OSL-BOM, and OSL-MAA. Whilst my examples are all using Oslo similar Asian routes from other European locations may also work. If they coordinate the trans-Atlantic and Asian timetables and offered checked through baggage handling, even if for a fee, they may be able to attract some East Coast USA to Asia traffic willing to transit Europe enroute to Asia.

[@AlfCalson]

✈️

[@lawrencepll76]

There is a likelihood that the American Airlines deal would include some A350s

[@johniii8147]

Not at all. That is nonsense

[@mohwybar5832]

Asiana just announced that they will retire the 747 in a few weeks

[@thatvierkid]

thank god lol. those planes are so ugly

[@Razor48X]

@@thatvierkidyour fire alarms are uglier

[@True_Cashier130]

@@thatvierkid says the one who wants to fly at the worst airline 💀

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

RIP the Asiana Airlines B747 (btw only the passenger 747 right?)

[@steinwaldmadchen]

Korean carriers follow a "guideline" to retire aircraft after 25 years, and HL7428 is delivered in 1999. So time to go and RIP.

[@hyun-shik7327]

I'm in the US so getting news from my home country is always the most interesting to me.

[@johnpatrick1588]

People must be nuts running and investing capital in passenger airlines. All the expensive planes and equipment, rents, massive debts, rotten management and labor environment at many airlines, government regulations, customer general unhappiness with service, etc... For all its trouble American Air has market cap of only $10 billion. The largest mark cap pax carrier is ULCC, Ryan Air in Europe at $31 billion. Fedex moves frieight and has a cap of $61 billion. The big tech comp are in the $trillions even Amazon is worth $1.8 trillion. Former A/A boss Bob Crandall was right when he said airlines are not an investment he would never buy any stock in one. Better investments available.

[@jgnclvgmng5408]

Passenger airlines are a long time investment. Big tech is short term and risky investment, even bigger than airlines, but yes you can make a lot of money on them, but also lose a lot. Big tech companies are not worth their market cap, and a lot of people will likely lose a lot of money one of these days (as usual). It's speculation that interests the big bets, and those usually have ways to get out earlier. Ryanair Europe are crooks (the CEO is one, likely the other key people are too). They owe money to everyone, and they are awful payers. That's the reason they mostly use secondary airports, not only in price but because these usually are desperate or any business, even not paying ones. Illusions...

[@vimal12487]

Bring back boeing 737ng until 737max fixed

[@thomassharp2719]

If Flyr Airlines flew Airbus aircrafts. They could have survived.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

An airline fleet doesn't cause bankruptc- Wait... (Go First went bankrupt because their whole fleet was grounded due to unreliable engines)

[@brkitdwn]

DJ.. You should try to get, do interviews. Specifically, with Boeing's Calhoun or executives, and get into the nitigriti of what Boeing is doing to ensure their planes are safe, and planes already built are checked for issues. Get in their business and get them to talk about the processes and ways they plan to better moral etc.

[@corneliusanderson-t3y]

norse is expensive and not good.

[@fjp3305]

So many people get into the airline business to lose millions. It's a terrible business to be in. I don't get it.

[@brkitdwn]

COMAC chomping at the bit ☹️

[@christopherkozal7987]

For what?!? 😂

[@brkitdwn]

@@christopherkozal7987 Grasshoppers