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🕺🏻ABOUT DJ: DJ is a locomotive engineer for CSX Railroad since 1999. He has built dozens of layouts, gave presentations for model railroaders, is a KZbinr, licensed drone pilot, and a great father.

[@johnvrabec9747]

My Dad was a diesel locomotive mechanic for the Rock Island, he was based out of the yard at 123rd street in Blue Island, IL. He took my brother and me to the yard once and we got to ride on the switch engine on the turntable, and walk under an engine in the pit! Pretty cool stuff for a little kid 😀 Most of my family worked for The Rock back in the 50s thru the 70s. Good jobs and good times.

[@djstrains]

good memories

[@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards]

My grandfather was a carman in the Cumberland repair yards for 49 years, B&O all his life. My dad was also a carman in the repair yards and car shop. He hired with B&O, then Chessie and finally CSX, 43 years I think. A few years ago, they had a major issue using the hump while remotely moving cars and it destroyed a huge section of track. Instead of repairing it, they pulled up the rail & ties that you can see around the tower. You can also see the removed cross-ties still piled in the yards. My brother, who works on the track gang, worked cleanup after that terrible situation. I think around 50 cars were involved, and the remote diesels really rolled them in there. I have pictures somewhere.

[@SD45-ET44AC]

Just to let you know that you do a very good job sharing and teaching. You have so much knowledge & you aren't shy about giving of yourself and sharing your family too. Thanks!

[@djstrains]

I appreciate that!

[@alanpotter4264]

There is so much to be learned from your videos about RR operations, including these fantastic overview footages largely making on site visits needless. Keeps them safe, keeps us safe and out of trouble. The days of railfanning on RR property are sadly over, used to get permission to walk around safely, but not any more.

[@djstrains]

Exactly. As a licensed drone pilot and engineer, I do my best to show everything I can so that no one has to trespass. I really appreciate your comment! Thank You!!

[@j.m.youngquist419]

Ive never seen a yard that was so clean before!

[@cody8217]

They have been cleaning it up recently in the last few months. There used to be a lot of trash and junk everywhere.

[@TheTrainFreak]

That place is massive and fun to switch on Train Sim World 2. The hump yard I grew up watching (Pine Bluff, AR - Union Pacific ex Cotton Belt/SP) stopped using it in 2019 as well. There was a levee beside it where you could drive along and it was a great place to railfan. Cool inside footage of the engine facilities. - Jason

[@anthonypecoraro5472]

Oh hello fellow TSW player!

[@jmahaneydroid]

My grandparents lived in Cumberland in the 70s and early 80s. Would visit often and spent a lot of time driving around and watching trains. Lots of activity back then and the hump yard work was always busy. In those days, (70s) I could walk across the yard over to the control tower and talk to the rail folks. That didn't last too long into the 80s! Same for the engine facilities...could walk right up to the big bay doors and talk to folks...until you couldn't. Good times - the current facilities and yard are just a shadow of what used to be in Cumberland.

[@garychestnut6380]

Thanks for sharing this video DJ. I just spent four hours today listen to some B&O old times form 50's and 60's talking about the rails. Great day.

[@djstrains]

Awesome experience

[@roberttaylor3890]

I used to live across the street from this and took many pictures of the hump and its operation.. Great video!

[@djstrains]

Very cool!

[@BB63]

I have to admit that servicing, repairing and classification areas are huge. When I lived in Jacksonville, FL I spent a lot of time at the old servicing area they had on McDuff Ave. I thought that place was big but that one you videoed looks huge. Excellent video. Thanks..

[@Nethanel773]

As always, thank you, DJ, for sharing your railroad knowledge with us, and for your creative work!

[@djstrains]

My pleasure!

[@markmcdowell231]

I had no idea what was in a train yard that was cool to see tell your Bose thank you for filming .

[@metronorthrailfan2244]

Ah yes. Cumberland Terminal. I actually play Train Sim World as well which in this case is Train Sim World 3. I recognized Cumberland yard from playing the Sand Patch Grade route and in fact I still play on that route in the game to this day. I even have the CW40-8 locomotive DLC for that route as well. My favorite scenario is when I am assigned to a unit coal train at Rockwood loading facility. It's called Powering America and it is a 2 part scenario

[@johnscherer1922]

hey dj, it's the grumpy old fart from n.h. tanks for posting this video, i once went from northern n.h., to pittsburg pa. for lunch, yes i am happily crazy. i couldn't get any closer than the highway to get a view, i'm not that kind of crazy. i tried to follow the sand patch route, but without a navigator next to me it became difficult, however i was lost, more or less in the town of savage, and discovered an abandoned old steam crane in town, kind of makes aimless wandering worthwhile. keep up the good work john

[@djstrains]

If there is a specific area you want me to try to film with cam or drone, please email me: [e-mail]. and I'll see what I can do. Always happy to help.

[@GMTransportation]

Love that you're allowed to show this stuff and love these shots DJ :)

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@gerryroncolato8895]

Super video DJ. Been by and around that yard many times, but never had such an inside and well-narrated look. Thanks!

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@haaseshouseoscience6377]

Awesome catches DJ! I also went railfanning up in that yard 5 times and one of my best moments there was when I went railfanning there on 9-12-20, I caught a CSX Stealth unit (aka in the YN1 paint), the Monon Emblem, plenty of Flared SD70MAC's, 3 SD50-3's, the last 2 7300 series Dash-8's (7338 and 7389 before they were sold sometime in late 2020), a RARE Former LMSX Dash-8, a Cabless Slug, and even a RARE SD60M. This video has brought me back those Memories! I really enjoyed it! Keep up the Amazing work!

[@djstrains]

Very cool!

[@MDKTraining]

Nice camera work, and upping your game I see, green screen, sound effects, background music… nice video work. Got a tour of the (now) CSX yard in Grand Rapids, MI years ago and got into the diesel repair area. The traction trucks reminded me of giant slot cars. Also was able to get into the yard when the Chessie Steam Engine was in for repair. Unfortunately that roundhouse is gone.

[@djstrains]

Much appreciated!

[@alanpotter4264]

There is a large turntable and roundhouse in the triangle at Saginaw, MI. Interesting: I was looking for a vantage point to see anything there and got into a situation needing to turn around due to RR property, went past the sign, turned around immediately and as quickly was flagged by a RR employee as to my reason for trespassing. I told him honestly and he politely sent me on my way.

[@jh4009]

gotta love the big Chessie system have you seen the model of this yard it's impressive

[@mikepalermo9781]

Thanks DJ. That was another awesome video. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge about the railroad. Great and interesting content.

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

First and only time at Cumberland yard, we photoed a WM RS3 next to the turntable. 1977.

[@djstrains]

Sweet!

[@mikehowey4869]

Never made sense to me getting rid of the hump yards.great footage of the loco areas.nice choice of music.

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bobmoran5621]

Had a visit to Cumberland on a road trip from the UK in 2012. Fabulous to see it again from above! Plenty of CSX locos visible when we were there. A fabulous visit, Thanks for posting.

[@djstrains]

Thank you so much for watching

[@stokerboiler]

Back in the 70s and 80s we called the place "Wunderland."

[@Crookedriverandeasternrr]

Wow what a cool place. Thanks for giving us a look into how it all works

[@djstrains]

Thanks for watching!

[@theangelsmodellingandrailways]

That is some stunning drone work and filming DJ, top notch, a thoroughly enjoyable watch and very inspirational for modeling. Thanks. Brian @ The Angels

[@djstrains]

Many thanks!

[@daleroth236]

Hunter Harrison came from Canada who worked wonders up there, but it didn't seem to work in the States. And he didn't live long after making all these changes. Same happened at Willard when it went to block switching. He may have been a genius, but railroads have used hump years as an efficient ways of sorting cars. I don't see how flat switching would save money. Loved this video too.

[@richgreene7043]

DJ, thank you for your time and effort. This was an informative and interesting video. Rich

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mumps59]

Awesome footage as usual, DJ, thanks! Loved seeing all those EMD beauties and the inside of the roundhouse.

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jdmills4370]

11:40 That explains why a modern yard tower appears to be at one end of a missing yard ladder…..

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

That was really cool! Wow that layout!

[@OldenGrumpy]

The overhead map photos on Google maps are old enough that they still show the Hump next to the tower, with all the braking assemblies and the switches. Interesting to compare the current situation with what was there not so long ago.

[@cornycorny2952]

Years ago we got a lot of damaged paper rolls as a result of humping. It was a very costly situation from a shipper's standpoint. Sometimes it was so bad that the cores would be crushed and the dunnage bags broken.

[@rvnmedic1968]

A great addition to your ever-growing playlist! Super coverage of all the operations in this yard. Cheers, Bob

[@djstrains]

Many thanks!

[@Tony770jr]

Wow, very impressive. Another great video!

[@djstrains]

Thank you very much!

[@Dark2-Light]

Im building an N-Scale railroad using Kato track running DCC and I will be using alot of these videos for the majority of my modeling. I appreciate you. Keep up the great work. -Ryan C

[@djstrains]

Sounds great!

[@daviemaclean61]

Amazing footage. I was surprised how relatively clean the roundhouse and surrounding areas were.

[@djstrains]

I know, right?

[@dwighthitchens9838]

Thanks for the video from Cumberland. I remember as a kid watching the B&O trains roll through Cumberland. Yes, before Chessie. Those were the days.

[@jimthannum7151]

Another great video on train operations with super overhead shots and great explanation. The fact that you a working locomotive engineer gives credence to you clear and interesting dialogue. Great channel!

[@djstrains]

Thank you very much!

[@BoxcarJerry]

Nice job on flying over DJ and explaining everything. That single long engine shed was neat with the split top roof . Take care.

[@rickenbacker315]

This is the location I took my engineer training. Nice facility..

[@djstrains]

Same. I was a conductor in 1999 and an engineer in 2000-present

[@rickenbacker315]

@@djstrains If I recall correctly, I was there in the summer of 2000. I worked at CSX for four more years, then went to CN. I enjoyed it at CSX. I actually held a job as soon as I marked up. I worked out of Barr yard in Chicago.

[@chadgeorge6770]

My home town. Alot of history in this town. Railroads to the first road paying taxes to the first Iron rail made here. Great video again.

[@lgzildjian]

Your drone work and video editing is so damn good! Every video I get SO much more information for my layout, thanks!

[@djstrains]

Sincerely appreciated

[@curailproductions7636]

Amazing video 😎👍

[@bobwickes1380]

You can almost visualize the rest of the Roundhouse.

[@jermainewyatt1995]

Awesome video love seeing yards like this csx yard are pretty cool

[@kenshores9900]

Shows the accountants are busy in the rail road transportation business and that there are a lot of yes people! One step forward two steps back.

[@steamfan007]

Great perspective on the Cumberland yard, DJ! How about something similar at Altoona? Keep up the good work.

[@djstrains]

Great suggestion!

[@Ken-Kaef]

A great video. Thanks for posting.

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@donbrown69]

Great video! What a shame about the hump yards. While I understand some of their shortcomings, as a rail fan it is a real shame.

[@gp3829]

Hi from the UK. I've been watching a while and just Subscribed. Thanks for another interesting video (I liked the backing-track too) I've been researching Locomotive Fuel, Sand and Water facilities to model for my HO Railroad, in case these feature on other videos you have made? Thank you.

[@djstrains]

You might find what you’re looking for on my channel homepage and look for PLAYLIST: Roundhouses Also Prototype info

[@jeffherdz]

Having a "Hump Yard" would seem like it would make more efficient use of moving cars that way. -vs- one at a time with an engine. Kinda like the UP's Bailey's yard, out at North Platte.

[@djstrains]

Jeff, I still dont understand why Hunter hated them. He was the worst CEO in history. Google "worlds greediest CEO" and he was top.

[@cp368productions2]

@@djstrains he did get Canadian National on its feet but something happened to him after that, I think his mind was going. He destroyed everything he touched after CN.

[@thomasboese3793]

@@cp368productions2 I read in TRAINS magazine, that H. Hunter Harrison was pulled out of retirement by the CSX, but he was only a figurehead and all of the work was done by his staff who had no idea of what they were doing. I don't know if CSX won their law suite or not.

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

Is it easier to work with the yard like this? Do you prefer the hump yard?

[@djstrains]

I never had Cumberland as my home terminal so I never worked the hump

[@tedisakoolkat]

Would have been amazing to see that place in the steam days. I’m still not understanding Hunter’s thinking behind taking out the hump yards and doing strictly flat switching. How is that more efficient? Or better what was his reasoning for that being more efficient?

[@djstrains]

I'm just as confused

[@tedisakoolkat]

@@djstrains fingers crossed one day they’ll get it together, I won’t hold my breathe 😂 keep up the great work!

[@rkalle66]

In praxis humping is crude to the cargo and limited to a handful of cars coupled rolling down the hump. With IT you can better presort resulting in fewer switchings and much less couplings and decouplings. And with dedicated container terminals there is nothing left for hump yards.

[@Santafefrank]

Thanks from California

[@djstrains]

I appreciate you watching!!

[@sernajrlouis]

I've only seen one turntable in my life. It's in San Antonio. The old Southern Pacific shop. Now it's a locomotive test facility I believe. Cool video. Can't wait for more

[@jhoodfysh]

DJ! Excellent video that showed me how I could prototypically include a roundhouse I built with a more modern engine facility. Thank you very much!

[@djstrains]

Yes! Glad I made this! Best wishes

[@thomasboese3793]

You may want to look at Google Earth maps at the location you want to model. You will get lots of ideas. The first rule of railroading: they never willingly tear anything down, everything gets repurposed.

[@plnbuf1]

Awesome drone footage DJ. So much better in real life than the way Cumberland is shown in Train Sim World 2. Nothing beats the real thing!

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@conrailfan6277]

Nice video DJ, I love seeing yards and engine facilities, I have a bunch on Altoona and Roanoke, did this yard and engine terminal start out as a B&O site?? Keep up the great content!!!!

[@hmhobbies]

I think ether western Maryland or the B&O, I may be wrong though

[@bobthomas4514]

Awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@frankneher9192]

The one plus to the hump yard being removed is you no longer hear the cars crashing

[@davidsinkfield6053]

Wow!!! Fantastic shots...Thanks

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@williamsantangelo]

I'm so very Impressed Indeed I Say! Thank You 😊!!!

[@djstrains]

I'm glad you like it

[@midmichiganemdrailfan.4187]

This be a perfect spot for a factory I'm surprised there none at this yard

[@djstrains]

Try to find old maps of Cumberland, Md. That may show the nearby industries. Lots of neat history.

[@UP5491]

Another great video DJ! I enjoy your work, very well done and you explain a lot. This summer in your travels if you make it to the Midwest Specifically North Central Iowa, feel free to message me and I’ll give you a tour of my home town here Mason City. We are home to the Iowa Traction Railway and we also have UP and CP running through town. I’d love to show you around. Keep the videos coming!

[@djstrains]

Awesome!

[@stgislander]

Must have filmed on a Sunday with so little traffic on Industrial Blvd. Holy crap... I can see my house!!!

[@djstrains]

Happy Easter morning! Lol.

[@dewanes3180]

I'm curious how many gallons of fuel does an engine hold?

[@djstrains]

new engines around 4,000 gallons roughly

[@KutWrite]

Cool drone footage and music behind it! Haha! the WM locomotive at the end and the cab made me think it was a model! Looked too immaculate, I guess. I thought there was a hump (two?) in Cumberland. Why did Harrison say to rip out the humps? They seem a lot faster and more organized than using yard crews. Maybe he likes remotes? Thanks for recording and sharing, DJ!

[@cody8217]

In Cumberland, our hump operation was remote.

[@billmorris2613]

I’m a retired road engineer off of the UP in New Orleans. Prior to the UP / Missouri Pacific merger our on duty location was the round house. After we did the required check of the general order book we would get on our engines and bring them to the head end of our train. Usually we had to double the head end to another track to make up our train. Occasionally we had to put three tracks together. Sometimes we had to do the whole brake test, sometimes just a set and release, as the carmen had already done the whole brake test. It was not unusual that this process took a couple hours. After the merger our on duty location was the yard office. And most of the time, our engines were on our train, which was on the main line right in front of the yard office. Quite often we were only on duty for 15 to 20 minutes and we were leaving. Then we were swapping crews at our away from home terminal, which was 217 miles away in 6 to 8 hours.

[@cody8217]

We have to get our power, build our train, do the brake test, etc. Takes hours. Our power is almost never on the train, ready to go.

[@billmorris2613]

Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 30 Apr 22.

[@erikmcc804]

DJ, you get the nomination for best train catch and best music score, this was amazing thanks I wonder who yard the was or is it new< thanks again you rock guy 🙂and BTW pass on this info to CSX and we want the ex B AND O StLouis line reopen please there is a lot of traffic from St Louis MO to go east hehe thank again Erik

[@djstrains]

Thanks Erik, I needed that!

[@Enjoyer.762]

1:20 Turntable. 5,000 bonus foamer points. 1:42 Aerial stealth railfanning crew harassment. So stealth, the worker on the slug didn't even know he was harassed (recorded) lol. 3,000 bonus foamer points. 7:12 Mid-train DPU bonus. 4,000 bonus foamer points. 10:06 After work trespassing / recording inside of the Roundhouse lol. 500,000 bonus foamer points. 542,400 total YT competitive foamer points awarded.

[@djstrains]

Peed myself

[@MojaveModelRailroad]

Great video. I am going to have to bookmark this for future reference. I want on my big layout to model a nice modern engine facility with turntable and this just got my brain going 1000 miles a second. Thank you for such awesome video drone footage.

[@djstrains]

Its a video a long time in the making, but I feel that it finally helped a lot of modelers who dont know how to incorporate one into their layouts. I personally loved my KATO turntable on my old layout. Flawless. I hope you are doing well, my friend, been thinking about you with all this new info coming out about the UAPs / UFOs and stuff, was wondering what you thought about it.

[@mrron9]

"No more humping cars" The 13 year old in me just fell out laughing! 🤣🤣

[@deconteesawyer5758]

Tell that to my dog.

[@mrron9]

@@deconteesawyer5758 🤣🤣🤣

[@kens.3729]

Hunter Harrison 🤪 was the Ultimate Bean Counter. 👎 He knew how many Beans went into a Pounds of Folgers Coffee. 🤪👎

[@joeraderblackrockcentralrr]

As always a very enjoyable and educational video. Thanks for sharing

[@djstrains]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@philliplee980]

Thanks for showing this I’ve been there myself I always wondered how big really was

[@djstrains]

You’re welcome 😊

[@toddw6716]

Is there a age limit to be an engineer

[@djstrains]

Not that I remember, but railroads usually dont hire you unless you have a drivers license.

[@fourtyfivefudd]

i thought this place looked familiar. Its in Train Sim World 2020

[@djstrains]

Lol

[@mechagodzillarodan]

Great video DJ! Yeah...Hunter was a genius...in his own head.

[@djstrains]

Agreed!!

[@geomodelrailroader]

Same thing happened on the OSL where I live. Davidson closed Pocatello but did not stub all the track. Harrison and his puppet on the UP Moore closed Hinkle now all of them are flat switched. The only yard that is not flat switched on the Union Pacific is Bailey Yard it is still humped.

[@cprs5000]

Hey what's going on always loved your videos excellent keep them coming thank you I live in Albany New York near Selkirk a big hump classification yard in New York however it's much different now that they tore bridge down but if you look at my videos you can see some Conrail action SD 38 working hump from the 90s God bless you keep safe have a great day

[@Clarinetboy82]

Loved the footage of the rail yard, thanks for sharing! I miss our diesel shop. Sadly the BNSF wasn't using it anymore so it was torn down about 15 years ago. Also did you see where one of the remaining old Santa Fe Diesels from the bicentennial was headed to the scrap, and got donated to a museum and restored instead? (There were originally 6 painted for the bicentennial and all repainted back to the Santa Fe blue and yellow in 1977, and I'm not sure what happened to the other five except they may still be in service or have headed to the scrap heap years ago.)

[@jwrailve3615]

I have a two stall engine house I cannot wait to attempt to match the replica back in 1910-1935 based off only one black and white side picture.

[@wayneholmes4207]

DJ - what is going on with the Union Pacific slow downs and CF fertilizer and other customers? Your perspective would be appreciated.

[@djstrains]

no idea. I dont pay attention to other RRs, hard enough trying to understand CSX logic, lol

[@BlackMan614]

You know exactly what is going on. Like most Class 1's, they over-compensated w/ PSR w/ massive furloughs and shocked the system when those ex-employees never answered the call back. Add into it 1000s of locomotives and railcars placed in storage. Not easy to un-do something of this magnitude in today's environment.

[@stanley4006]

Great video. Thanks

[@djstrains]

Glad you liked it!

[@joelvale3887]

I've been on that train ride at the end of this video.

[@michaelmoses8745]

Watching your life as an engineer Playlist is certainly interesting. I never thought engineer stuff was so hard. I thought the class 2 stuff up here in New England wasn't fun.

[@michaelmoses8745]

In related news, CSX just bought Pan Am Railways, the big class 2 over here. Thank goodness.

[@ericbarrall5619]

Thanks!

[@djstrains]

That was very generous and extremely appreciated. Merry Christmas!!

[@connorbush0835]

My grandpa work for KCS car repair shop

[@ronduz1281]

I hear your going to OVR, and coming to Toronto. where you going to be in Toronto

[@djstrains]

June 4/5

[@ptitrainrouge]

great video, helps to model , thank you

[@Sleeper____1472]

Cumberland Terminal, from TSW (Train Sim World). I don't know why they would ever decide to flat switch instead of hump, I'm pretty sure the CSX yard nearest to me still has one (Selkirk Yard NY).

[@bruceames6332]

Another great and thought out video. Great job 👏 ,DJ. Now I have to buy another CSX railcar. I think it will be #6 so far. What was the first year of the CSX , if You don't mind me asking? Bruce in Minnesota

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

Leaving out the financial holding company CSX (Chessie and Seaboard Multiplied) that got its start in 1980, the mergers of the various roads took place over several months with the process being completed in mid-1986. In the early 1980s, Chessie president Hays T. Watkins was quoted as saying, "You'll never see CSX on a box car." Yet by 1985 it only made sense to merge all the companies that made up Chessie and Seaboard System into a unified company. The very first CSX engines were silver and blue with "sub lettering" such as B&O and SBD under the cab windows. That did not last long. CSX painted coal hoppers started showing up in 1986. It is interesting to note that at least on the Chessie side of the house, B&O and C&O never merged until right before the CSX consolidation. They "affiliated" but never merged, mostly due to tax advantages that B&O enjoyed in the state of Maryland. Thus, B&O actually lasted until April 30, 1986. B&O had assumed full control of the Western Maryland in 1983.

[@djstrains]

Thanks for that detailed insight. Appreciated!

[@taylorbaggarleyunionpacifi3409]

I always want go back east see bigger railroad yard one I love is bailey yard

[@thomasboese3793]

Bailey Yard is in North Plate, right? If so, it is the biggest yard.

[@Mike-tg7dj]

No hump classification yards? Cool video I guess the old EMD SW1500s, MP15s are gone from y'alls rosters.

[@djstrains]

We do have a few, but I haven't seen them in may area for a few years.

[@jackmeyers9291]

It's odd that Cumberland is so important to CSX when in the hay day of B & O and C & O they both ignored Cumberland. The Western Maryland was the life line of Cumberland

[@Edyth_Hedd]

Great video, DJ - really interesting and very relaxing. Loved seeing all those traction motors laid out. BTW, do you need to get permission before you film at sites like this?

[@djstrains]

I recently did a video on drones and explained some of the rules. And believe me, there are a lot of them. There are still things I can't film.

[@davidrutski2411]

Nice DJ Great video!!!

[@tomeasley5979]

DJ, AWESOME !!!!!!! Thanks for the great video and explanation. What a real treat! With the cars going to so many places do railroads ever lose cars?

[@djstrains]

Yes. Not as often as older days, because of the tracking ID cards on them.