Master Heihachi's S-Tier Punishment

[@yeetmasterpianogames2611]

always wondered why heihachi was balding in such a weird pattern. now that i see this move, i understand why he doesn't have hair there.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

In tag 2 he had an item move where headbutt grabs would actually make him go bald

[@EpicBattleToaster]

every mishima that has the same headbutt moves as heihachi will suffer the same balding pattern as him. Kazuya and Reina's hairline is in danger

[@FredM8Beats]

who needs devil powers, when you got balding powers

[@accbeyappingfr]

@@EpicBattleToasterthe devil gene canonically stops balding lmao, kazuya’s lineup is fine.

[@HolySok]

That's actually how most men bald. They have a horseshoe hair around the back and side. It's just that Heihachi keeps it long and it stands up due to static electricity.

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Heihachi “I use my male pattern baldness as a -12 launch” Mishima

[@JuliusCaesar103]

Kazuya not TMM's main anymore, historic.

[@metsu-satsu4280]

Heihachi is now even more like Kazuya than Kazuya himself in terms of gameplay, so no surprise here lol

[@VSNjaco]

@@metsu-satsu4280 kazuya is still the better and easier character though

[@crazy911wman]

​@@metsu-satsu4280 But heihachi doesnt have annoying 50/50 vortex

[@bapesta5277]

Sad really. His kaz would thrive

[@tekkn_579]

@@VSNjacoKazuya might be easier, but not better tho. On top of what hei has already, he also has warrior instinct 🤷‍♂️

[@enenra6417]

I see they gave Heihachi some of his tekken 5 DR punishment

[@SHANEEDBERTSUAREZLIBAGO-g2m]

Yeah, but tekken 5 Hachi don't need resources

[@123451234alex]

i miss my broken T5 DR Hei and his godly twin pistons

[@9052j]

​@@123451234alex old twin pistons kreygasm

[@adonutplaysgames]

Useful tip for budding Heihachi players re. ub2 parry: WGK 4, the stomp from Fujin stance, sets up ub2 if the opponent tries to jab to take their turn back as you're -4 after the stomp.

[@Ookie_FC]

What is WGK

[@AxS98]

​@@Ookie_FCwind God kick? Seems to make sense

[@hamzehalali9182]

​@@Ookie_FC Wind God Kamae, Heihachi's new stance

[@AxS98]

@hamzehalali9182 the stance is fujin stance G, wind God kamae must be the move

[@hamzehalali9182]

@@AxS98 The word "Fujin" is a Japanese word that means, at least in the context of Tekken, "Wind God" and the word "Kamae" means "Stance" so wether you say: Wind God's Stance Wind God's Kamae, as it is written in the Move List Fujin Stance or Fujin no Kamae they all refer to the same thing in this conversation

[@smickeyYT]

i think b1, 4 is worth mentioning as an option after chrome dome, imo it's the best option in the neutral. It's 39 damage, so only outclassed by a gold spark df1, 2. And it gives very good oki. db2 and ff2 are free unless the opponent stands straight up and blocks, or if they toe kick or spring kick (ff2 beats spring kick). Both will obviously hit if they stay on the ground. And for a safe option, d1 will hit EVERY wake up option. They have to stay on the ground to not get hit. so b1, 4 not only gives you the best most consistent raw damage, but a great opportunity for followup damage.

[@Hachijo3GS]

Still no command input history lol

[@WindrushKrew275]

still too noob to be watching this video. Go start learning about notations from scratch, it'll help you more than complaining.

[@Hachijo3GS]

@@WindrushKrew275 I was referencing to the people that have asked about this in the past when he’s done these kind of videos. This has nothing to do with me, don’t make assumptions. You sound illiterate af

[@kragafestthe1st784]

@@WindrushKrew275literally

[@amitypredator9385]

​I know the inputs well, and yours is a trash statement.​@@WindrushKrew275

[@jaysboredman]

​@@amitypredator9385i dont think he was referring to you lol

[@Rowwei]

Me: Does anything -13 and -12 Heihachi: *”So you have chosen death”* Me: *Akuma PTSD intensifies*

[@Oolong-Dong]

Don't forget Heihachis Heatsmash as a i15 punish everybody. With stage gimmicks it becomes a full launch and it has workable reach. It can make the difference when your opponent has recovered some health before using his rage art.

[@BanAaron]

It is very useful in mirror matches because you can punish FF2 with it! FF2 is -16 IIRC

[@OutOfMemoryException]

For the i15 punish, you can do df3, 1+2, qcf immediately, and then just press 1 after the second punch, confirming the string. Way easier than trying to fit qcf1 after the second punch.

[@Owriada]

Dog headbutts kaz’s devil fist and smashes meteors with minimal ease.. it better be a 12 frame punish 😂

[@AtaIarion]

F1+2, b1,4 gives insane oki as well

[@AtaIarion]

If you do ff1+2 itll hit if they get up in any way at all. Ff2 will catch backrolling and it will launch spring kick

[@Oolong-Dong]

thank you for the knowledge! I also had success with d1. They have to stay grounded and if they try to retaliate afterwards you have the delayable d12 followup into Raijin Stance 1 that will deal huge damage on Counter.

[@araon9629]

You can also use db2 which beats everything but spring kick and toe kick. It also gives the most damage (20) which means means you still get a 59 dmg total punish against people who don't know/don't guess right

[@smickeyYT]

@@araon9629 worth mentioning it can be blocked if they stand up and crouch, so a bit risky, but can be shmixed with ff2

[@роматарасов-о8л]

so glad to see guides about heihachi especially want to see video about okizeme i just cant find any videos about it

[@j0hnicide]

-12 launch is crazy

[@SKULL_REA]

Akuma had -5 launch..he just jump kick n launcj

[@BullC6]

@@SKULL_REA it was i10 lol

[@cauvangquaygame8524]

7 frame. Funny squid space ninja samurai robot

[@alexandersze49]

@@cauvangquaygame8524rip flash no longer regular launcher

[@alexandermccalla5098]

Maybe this is a known bug, but when Heihachi uses a heat engager that also knocks the opponent into a stage transition, he does not get a token towards his ultimate mode so your heat is somewhat wasted that round.

[@vinniegret4841]

I only now notice that Heihachi straight hair turnes into winged form in heat. 😮⁉

[@BrohunGaming]

very good content, actually helped me understand what im supposed to do as a new mishima

[@deathbringer9893]

2:15 man I wish Lee could wall splat with his 10 frame

[@iseefood4522]

It was fine as it is, if they somehow change it to something like kazuya's buffed df1,4 its going to be really annoying at the wall, well granted if you come across someone that can actually punish with it consistently

[@deathbringer9893]

@@iseefood4522 doing acid rain is not hard at all

[@iseefood4522]

@@deathbringer9893 Try doing it under pressure from your opponent, if you can do it easily then you're really good at it

[@deathbringer9893]

@@iseefood4522 I do already it is just rythem. What would mess me up is connection issues or people simply having bad pcs trying to play the game but luckily they are rare. Every day I spend 20 min practicing it then 10 practicing throw breaks it is not as much as pro players but its useful to do.

[@yasinstyl3r427]

Heihachi is S tier imo. It feels like anything but the heat smash tracks like crazy

[@Dr.Happy11]

but b4 is steppable and recovers slowly, so he's unfortunately high C tier 😔

[@versatilelord8893]

He’s not that bad bro. Just play defensively & you’ll have a much easier time against him

[@KingStackkz]

@TheMainManSwe u also get df12 just frame charge off chrome dome (f1+2) for 41damage and some health regen. (F1+2 df12) Imo best option if u don’t wanna heat engage and you’re not in final form. I’m sure u already knew this but I just wanted to remind everyone

[@motivatedharuto2624]

Bro betrayed his main😂

[@MerrStudio]

I love Heihachi, but my brain for some reason always messes up DF3 with F3. Idk, these two moves are so similar that my brain refuses to believe these are two different moves lmao. Obviously it's a me issue, just wondering if anybody feels the same

[@rdDolphinX]

I agree that Kazuya has the better knockdown out in the open with 1,1,2 but doesn't he have the actual worst jab range in the game? In 7's last patch Hei was tied for best jab range with Drag and maybe Gigas, not sure where he's at in 8. Might be worth mentioning.

[@Adi2k7boy]

Isnt DJs range worse than kaz in tekken 8?

[@NYG5]

Kaz's horrific jab range is really starting to piss me off. Same with df1,df2 off axis whiffing combos and recovering so slowly opponents can launch you off it.

[@ARISE24]

This guy is scary to fight lol 😅

[@fancyhermit7]

Akuma also has a 12f punish which is D+2 in Tekken 7 but who's got the better one between him and Heihachi?

[@metsu-satsu4280]

Definitely Akuma. Without walls, Hei needs Warrior Instinct achieve the same damage output from 12 frames that Akuma gets with just one bar of EX meter

[@Steelmage99]

I can't help but watch this great analysis and understanding of the game....and think of LTG at the same time. :)

[@Danyboyx]

Bruh🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@road_3838]

Heihashi’s heat is really strong

[@alexandermccalla5098]

Oh and I have to say, that this mostly applies at higher ranks. And the reason I say that is because casuals and lower ranking players have not been taught to respect Tekken. They never stop pressing buttons. You never get to think or bait because they aren’t guessing. They’re just pressing and praying. Nobody respects the character and everything is incredibly sidesteppable.

[@JESSROCKEDChannel]

why didn't they give a distinct animation or effect for the perfect omen uppercut.

[@Mironderrr]

There’s a camera zoom and golden sparks on perfect otgf

[@ranges787]

bro f1+2 has more range than dvjs jab and ff2 combined and he uses his head…

[@shadyar283]

I learn everything about him he made heihachi easy to play

[@DioRando98]

What is old omen notation? 14:48

[@itsPhils8]

F n DF1 ?

[@роматарасов-о8л]

i started playing for heihachi in tekken 8 and very want to learn it. please help me i dont understand something can i hit confirm hellsweeps first hit on conterhit and do pickup with something(maybe electric or ws 4) if at first i want to do double helsweep to launch opponent my current combo drops if counterhit happens, maybe i need to use some hitconfirm or maybe save my combo with certain move so i really struggle to understand, in all guides i dont see this information maybe my combo is bad and i just need to use other combo my combo: [f n df44] 4 -> f3 D -> DF441 -> f3 D -> 2 -> dash -> helsweep 43 after df 441 my opponent fly too far away so i cant hit it with f3

[@Mironderrr]

Too much hits for cd[44]4. For consistency do this: Cd[44]4, F3, DF1, F3D, WGK 2, cd 43

[@SHOCKWAVE-cp5ri]

I dont know what moves to use for his pressure

[@aligamerable]

16:06 one thing I wanna add is how it makes King's matchup quite easier because of it's ability to parry his u/f+1+2 on reaction.

[@usmansubhani7482]

Jack 8 videos are gone (in general I mean). No new guides or anything. I want to return to my boi but feel like Alisa is just him but better. As a Yoshi main it also feels like I’m taking a step down in terms of ‘worth putting time in’ when it comes to him. Also, have they patched the DevilJin glitch yet with Hei? The one that makes Rage Art not stop the timer and hit worse.

[@ricksanchez-qx5zz]

Put the input display on

[@MichaelSS]

I get that they wanted to play around with really strong properties, but why make so much of the damage non-recoverable?

[@nixuniverse5240]

It would be cool if you made a video comparing all of the things from Tekken 3 that Ultimate Heihachi has.

[@A_critter]

I found the blue spark wall combo to be easiest while holding down after 1+2, then doing f1 at the correct timing. Even if you “mess up” and dont have a df in the command history (ie it shows down, neutral, f1) it still gives you the spark

[@Tezca-Coatl]

think thats the buffering system coming into play, it simply interprets d neutral f1 as a qcf like the qcf+1, demon paw or whatever its called

[@mcbill7352]

dude qcf motions aren't that hard. Yall wouldn't survive sf or guilty gear

[@Tezca-Coatl]

@@mcbill7352 idk who ur talking to, nobody said it was difficult... besides, sf caters alot more to casuals with the modern style than tekken is with special style and special style has counterplay... i bet u dont even know what is means to tiger uppercut a tatsumaki? lol, dont come here with ur dumb shit - i see straight through you casual.

[@Tezca-Coatl]

@@mcbill7352 u probably dont even know what it means to tiger uppercut a tatsumaki lol

[@Esdrei2011]

​@@mcbill7352 i think is more of pressing 1 at the same time you finish the qcf. I do feel these inputs are less stritct than electrics

[@lukemacinnes5124]

can you get a perfect electric after f1+2 or nah

[@CD44F]

You can but the opponent is in a crouching state, so it whiffs

[@freedomfighter271]

So, could u do PEWGF after chrome dome?

[@elegy8187]

No because they’re forced into crouch on hit so the electric won’t connect

[@freedomfighter271]

@@elegy8187 shame.

[@Dr.Happy11]

I mean, you can, but it'll whiff

[@aura6958]

So is MM really droping Kazuya?

[@BullC6]

I mained Gigas and my training mate launched d2 with heihachi consistently, which was a perfect electric then at -14...used to drive me up the wall. He hasn't cracked hopkick electric punish yet but it's going to be disgusting if he does. My only issue with heihachi punishment is that they destroyed the jab range so now you can get F'd in pushback situations.

[@SKULL_REA]

58 damage no recoverable health😂

[@Skipper0x]

How can we differentiate between strong & broken ?

[@kragafestthe1st784]

Strong is when a character’s kit is great to use but you still know their game plan and how to counter play. Broken is when you don’t get counter play and they get to do whatever crazy bullshit they want (Drag)

[@avoidthevo1d]

And there is law with his 10f heat dash launcher

[@Hassankhan-cn9wu]

Do you play on PS5 or PC?

[@SKULL_REA]

Pc

[@stealthexecutor563]

You can the see the pc icon beside his username

[@Monchking]

Ignore if you dont care but if youre particular of pronunciation, it should be wind god “kah-mah-eh” stance

[@Dr.Happy11]

Nice propaganda amigo, unfortunately, we all know WGK stands for wind god bagoosh

[@Monchking]

@@Dr.Happy11 fair point i stand corrected

[@Dr.Happy11]

@@Monchking No worries fam, always happy to help

[@kingofdrama3236]

No more love for Kaz. :(

[@sadomoreno5829]

Don't care if he has the best 12-frame punishers or launchers, he shouldn't have defense-breaking skills. No one should.

[@DRAKLOR_44]

Really useful guide just now adapting to be more patient and wait for whiffs than being more pitbull in T7. It will take a bit of time but I like what they did with Heihachi overall a very good chance and they didn’t make him braindead which is awesome

[@thegame2834]

I'm glad I started watching your vids OG. I just realized how completely useless 1,2,2 is. Back then, you would use 1,2,2 for damage. Now? not anymore. 1,2,2 does less than 1,1,2 which makes absolutely no sense.

[@danerader5132]

I feel like 1, 2, 2 is still nice since you can hold down and go into wind god stance for a mix up.

[@alexandermccalla5098]

Watched the video and enter a US PlayStation tournament, I get a 40k prowess Jin playing on a US account from Libya. 6+ frames delay and completely unplayable. Guess how the match ended… yes he ki charged another troll that needs mass reporting and tournament access revoked from their accounts

[@SKULL_REA]

Dont think HEIHACHI is broken...he is not...his tracking so mad...especially with his hit smash

[@Flawlesslaughter]

I-urn hand iron :)

[@ps3predator]

Make an Anti Heiihachi guide.

[@RoseSennin]

I find it funny how in my mind I feel like low ranks play defense mid ranks abuse offense and then high ranks go back to mostly defense.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

Yeah it's like a bell curve. "I block because I'm scared to approach" to "I block because it wouldnt be smart to approach"

[@kouamejohnmarkus]

Nerf him too much damage 💔. On a simple combo, half of health goes away

[@SwipeGameplay]

Cant wait for his tracking to get fixed. The amount of stuff that should not be tracking is a joke

[@felipechaves6100]

11:37 weird argument. Punishing -14 with a regular electric is factually harder than punishing -13 with a perfect electric. You have one more perfect input in order to punish -14. Now with the latest update perfect electric input you can punish -14 with one delayed frame of lenience though. So in theory it’s easier if you’re always going for the pewgf input. (Not the case in tekken 7 for any mishima besides kazuya.)

[@plopap]

this comment is extremely pedantic

[@Semispace]

i cant tell if this is high iq or brain damage

[@felipechaves6100]

I could go in more detail but I’ll be even more of a “☝️🤓 actually” 🥲😂

[@Kevin-m4d]

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[@BluahGhaa]

-"ñeEEeeEee hEiHachi iS sOoo hArD aNd baLancEeEEeeEd" -(Oponent goes -12) *EXPLODES*

[@carloshernandez3177]

In ultimate heihachi yes because the df21 launch is easy but in heat you have to nail the ff1+2 and that shit is hard, if you hit it you deserve the combo damage

[@alucard9668]

heihachi is broken as fuck you cant fkin argue with that but the fact is that for example jin is broken too but in addition ASTRONOMICALLY annoying and also he is easier to play than heihachi

[@Dr.Happy11]

Jin is in his own tier (maybe with nina and drag?). The gap between him and the rest of the "top tiers" is comical, to be honest. (and let's not even bring up the less "viable" ones)

[@alucard9668]

@@Dr.Happy11 yea dragunov is a joke

[@Dr.Happy11]

@@alucard9668 True. Honestly, even with his shortcomings (wonky hitboxes and some punishment issues), he more than makes up for it and dominates the competition (well, except the jins and ninas, they're equally embarassing too). It's like when people mentioned Akuma's "range issues" in T7, like it actually mattered at all lmao. Yeah, Akumer only got a f3 punish on heihachi's ff2, and yeah, T8 Drag can't punish certain lows and mildly punish minus tens to thirteens *so-fuggin-what*

[@saramegan2243]

unfortunately heihachi is WAAY more fun than Kazuha in T8 imo. It's incredible it's more fun than Reina too. AMAZING job by the developers. A declaration of love for the Mishima style which in my opinion reaches the peak of quality with him. There are those who put him in mid tier, in my opinion he will rise very soon, he is certainly not a character you can underestimate in this way.

[@THEVIGILANTEHD]

"Arguably the best 12f punish in the game..." Broo who the hell is arguing against that??? What 😂😂

[@bebonotnice1773]

😂😂😂😂😂 I'm dead literally (I got hit by Hei 12 frame)

[@erk489]

Where’s silent hill play through part 2 ?

[@KrizbyYT]

Azucena has the best 10f punish on the wall. 1,2 wall splats and it's only -14.

[@TheLifeLaVita]

this is 10f wall splats and is -5 so it's better than azucena

[@FGCmoon]

@@TheLifeLaVitaflash punch is launch punishable

[@leonsantero9903]

​@@FGCmoonBut you don't use that at all unless you're punishing

[@mastergaming-wd4zh]

​@@FGCmoon its hit confirmable bro. So you just need to 11 and if that get blocked you just dont press 2 and 11 only -5. But if 11 hit you just press 2 and boom wallsplat

[@TheLifeLaVita]

@@FGCmoon 1, 1 is not. 2 is easily hit confirmable. You won't lash out the last hit at random unless it's a punish. -5 if blocked, wall splat if you hit or punish

[@MrBabyfleet]

so heihachi is ok but trash yoshi. ok

[@usmanmughal5916]

NERF HAJI

[@GoodLuckMax]

I don’t think old guy is mid-tier 💀💀💀

[@Atilolzz]

...wanted nobody ever. Where is offensive God Hei? I want Omen and df1 back

[@superblack898]

12 frame launcher in heat. “Mid tier”

[@jintype2984]

Law has 10 frame

[@leonsantero9903]

Thing is, he's super easy to step both sides

[@superblack898]

@@leonsantero9903 wrong

[@superblack898]

@@jintype2984 on ch. not a punish

[@SesoKoza-ut4bd]

He's right maybe you haven't bought dlc but heihachi gets stepped so much you can't party ​@@superblack898

[@ReallyOutThere2]

Man, I don't know if mainman is bluffing or not but damn he dropped 20+ years of kazuya just like that😅

[@theswaggenerator2675]

This is tekkens 9/11

[@cloudstrife8436]

This is why I'll always plug the moment I see Heihachi in the vs screen. Not worth fighting this character until they nerf him

[@Mhashim118]

Genuinely why bother playing this game if you're gonna be a little crybaby about loosing some rank points. Just learn the match up you retard, hes a really balanced char

[@superjosifus]

Scrub or bait? 😢

[@NYG5]

Lmao pathetic

[@rain89skarlet80]

the only thing i find super cheesy about heihachi is his huge damage...poorly balanced.

[@sai6724]

nah hes fine he needs it

[@justagamethrower]

That's kinda all he has, He's overly linear and frame wise only has a couple good options like F4 and electrics

[@Locii97]

I'm fine with it considering he's a harder to use character with trash tracking. It should hurt if he gets the right hit

[@BBBB100K]

Scrub

[@rain89skarlet80]

not on neutral moves...its not good when lets say one character needs 20hits while heihachi needs 7 to win the round. his moveset and counterplay is fair (high risk/reward) but his damage is a bit overtuned

[@tibz7634]

So tell me, why do all these DLC characters get installs?