The True, Heroic Masculinity of Maximus in Gladiator

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Master Samwise

Master Samwise

Күн бұрын

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@markm5038
@markm5038 2 ай бұрын
"Without meaningful purpose, men languish and fade, simply going through whatever motions have been ordained for them" quotes like this are why I love this channel.
@TheSmark666
@TheSmark666 2 ай бұрын
Facing actuality and the hard truth of life is a difficult thing to do. Most people will ignore it their entire lives until it's too late.
@michealohaodha9351
@michealohaodha9351 2 ай бұрын
​@TheSmark666 so true!
@desertmammoth3159
@desertmammoth3159 2 ай бұрын
@@TheSmark666 And what are the actualities of life? What is the hard truth? Are these things universal or are they specific to individuals?
@prestonowens4594
@prestonowens4594 2 ай бұрын
I think this is part of the reason why I I feel so lost and sad.
@rrr777www
@rrr777www Ай бұрын
​@@prestonowens4594you're right. But you aren't cursed to this fate. Try. And then keep trying. You will find the way, if you look and don't stop. We have need of heroes. Go be one.
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel 2 ай бұрын
"He fights not because he hates what's in front of him, but because he loves what's behind him." That is such a profound way of describing Maximus's motives. Obviously, it is intended to bring up thoughts of Faramir.
@jodieg6318
@jodieg6318 2 ай бұрын
Nor fighting for the sake of glory and renown as "There will come a time for Valor without renown ... Yet the deeds will not be less valiant because they are unpraised" there is always more than one Tolkien qoute that will fit :)
@Brunette3030
@Brunette3030 Ай бұрын
It’s a quote from G. K. Chesterton’s book, Orthodoxy, which is both deeply insightful and hilarious. A must-read.
@thegunslinger1363
@thegunslinger1363 2 ай бұрын
My local cinema re-released Gladiator back in October. Whilst being in awe watching. I often said to myself, "Why make a sequel to this masterpiece?"
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
Should have just re-released this everywhere and not bothered with II. Would have saved a LOT of money.
@bradyburick1367
@bradyburick1367 2 ай бұрын
​@master_samwise I was wondering if maybe you could cover the masculinity of Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima, he'd a great character with a beautiful and tragic story filed with war loss and triumph and I'd love to hear your take on it as I have so many others 💜
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 2 ай бұрын
Money
@jamesknott5255
@jamesknott5255 2 ай бұрын
Easy, money
@angelicambyence
@angelicambyence 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 I asked myself the same thing. I’m watching Gladiator in protest of the second part. To me it having a sequel is as absurd as Titanic 2 😂
@t.i.5528
@t.i.5528 2 ай бұрын
I love how his version of Heaven is going home to his wife and son.
@yokai333
@yokai333 2 ай бұрын
The most simplest desires are often the most important to a man. His family was his treasure, his life, and he came home to them again.
@Mas_zeppelin
@Mas_zeppelin 2 ай бұрын
A liberals nightmare. Not a single lgbtqi+"/*-+FJAA__++ flag in sight.. the horror.
@ATR000
@ATR000 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, going home. When I was in the army, I nearly died of a heat stroke. When I blacked out, I remember walking home like when I was a kid. Then I came to in the hospital and was furious.
@nightshadehelis9821
@nightshadehelis9821 Ай бұрын
Heck yea, he wanted a little russy in the afterlife.
@nightshadehelis9821
@nightshadehelis9821 Ай бұрын
​​@@ATR000It's crazy because I experienced something similar from heat exhaustion once. I was so dehydrated that I couldn't stand or keep my head up because I was so dizzy. Suddenly I was having an intense dream. I heard loud sirens and it felt like the entire world was caving in on me, and I woke up in an ambulance with no feeling in my arms and legs. Heat stroke/exhaustion is no joke.
@f.ah.c2114
@f.ah.c2114 Ай бұрын
"The greatest love a man can give is to lay down his life for his friends." Such kingly words. Wonder where they come from.
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel Ай бұрын
From the greatest King ever. You could say He's the King of Kings.
@thecowboy9698
@thecowboy9698 Ай бұрын
​@VTdarkangel - He wasn't born into wealth. He never won a battle in war. He didn't build any building or monument that continues to stand to this day. He didn't even write anything that made its way down through history. What he did was teach, and he spent his life basically in the service of others. And when he died, we never read of him vowing revenge or anything of that nature. He was tortured and killed, yet bore it all with dignity and grace. No wonder why Pilate said of him: "Behold The Man."
@r0cketm00se3
@r0cketm00se3 Ай бұрын
@@thecowboy9698 Yeah definitely no revenge in the second coming and end times...
@Derek_Baumgartner
@Derek_Baumgartner Ай бұрын
@@r0cketm00se3 If that is mere revenge, then so any judge pronouncing a just sentence is mere pettiness as well. Nay rather, He comes to put an end to evil: and if we have not repented from sin and trusted in His finished work at the cross (look to the Ten Commandments, one by one. It takes only one lie to be a liar, only one theft to be a thief, only one look with lust to be an adulterer at heart) then we will die with the sins we justify. "Be sure, your sin will find you out." "Come to Me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." "It is finished."
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel Ай бұрын
@@r0cketm00se3 don't confuse revenge with justice
@EMrono21
@EMrono21 2 ай бұрын
You should 100% do a video on The Count of Monte Cristo. Especially the book. The final page where Edmond ask for prayer because he thought himself to be equal with God but now repents. And learns that we are to wait and hope, is so powerful.
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
Planning on it eventually!
@michealohaodha9351
@michealohaodha9351 2 ай бұрын
Excellent recommendation!!!!!
@BBnSam1215
@BBnSam1215 2 ай бұрын
@@master_samwiseplease read the unabridged Robin Buss translation (Penguin Classics). COMC and LOTR are my favorite books. Both fantastic and epic.
@brainrich1358
@brainrich1358 Ай бұрын
The greatest revenge story of all time
@fbgmduck
@fbgmduck Ай бұрын
I'll be back for that!
@stevenodlum4563
@stevenodlum4563 2 ай бұрын
Every time I watch this move, someone starts cutting onions at the end with "He was a solider of Rome. Honor Him." I love this movie and had the chance to show it to my wife last year. I really wish that movies like this one could be made more often today.
@barbarabaker1457
@barbarabaker1457 2 ай бұрын
Pregnancy with a son makes me love these videos all the more.
@Shura31412
@Shura31412 2 ай бұрын
bless you and your family young lady
@barbarabaker1457
@barbarabaker1457 2 ай бұрын
Thank you ever so
@ETibbs11
@ETibbs11 2 ай бұрын
To your and your boy's health! ♥️ I have two boys. 🙂 Having sons truly is wonderful. These masculinity videos should be required viewing.
@barbarabaker1457
@barbarabaker1457 2 ай бұрын
@@ETibbs11 Agreed, to yours as well. The father is of course a good example, but as a woman I appreciate masculine insight.
@ETibbs11
@ETibbs11 2 ай бұрын
@@barbarabaker1457 Thank you! Same here! I think it's important for both mom and dad to have positive ideas about masculinity and what that means in order to pass it down to their sons.
@brandonhaag52
@brandonhaag52 2 ай бұрын
God of War, Halo, and Jupiter from The Planets all as background music were a surprising combination yet fabulous!
@thecowboy9698
@thecowboy9698 2 ай бұрын
I have to hand it to Russell Crowe in his performance as Maximus, it is honestly one of his best performances. The only other man who I can think of who would've well-suited for the role in his place, had he been younger at the time, was Charlton Heston, as he had a very commanding presence, not to mention that iconic voice. On a sidenote, I hope this man does a video like this on Masculinity, from the movie Robin Hood, which also starred Russell Crowe. I would like to hear what Russell Crowe's Robin Hood has to teach of masculinity and what it means to be a man.
@TECHN01200
@TECHN01200 2 ай бұрын
I am, in fact, entertained.
@ethanarnold4441
@ethanarnold4441 8 күн бұрын
So am I.
@Metoki-cq2sf
@Metoki-cq2sf Ай бұрын
As a woman I’m soooo happy I grew up with male characters like him and Aragon and so many others 😊 Beautiful video ❤
@hughjass8430
@hughjass8430 2 ай бұрын
I've often thought that the best casting is not so much finding a good actor, it's finding someone whose personality is a close fit for the character they play. While obviously a great actor and leading man, the similarities between Russell Crowe and Maximus are interesting. Crowe was never interested in the glitz of Hollywood or LA, he moved home to Australia as soon as he became successful. He bought a farm and raised cattle. He's a family man who likes to be away from the camera when he's not on duty. He just seemed to understand Maximus implicitly and I believe he was a huge reason behind why the first film had such impact.
@carolynabbott5914
@carolynabbott5914 2 ай бұрын
I think neither Russell Crow nor RIdley Scott will top this movie in either of their careers.
@Uilani-g4m
@Uilani-g4m Ай бұрын
@@carolynabbott5914 Scott has a few movies that are equally, if not more stellar than Gladiator. Blade Runner and Alien are pretty awesome in all aspects, especially, originality. Granted, these are pre Gladiator. I actually think Blade Runner is better than Gladiator.
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel Ай бұрын
That's probably more true than you realize. In the movie, when Maximus is describing his farm, what is described is supposedly Crowe's own farm.
@JoeArant
@JoeArant 2 ай бұрын
Gladiator is a Stoic masterpiece.
@chriswinters8565
@chriswinters8565 2 ай бұрын
A deep dive into how healthy Maximus's masculinity is from one of my favorite videos essayists? HELL YEA
@ivanayala2715
@ivanayala2715 2 ай бұрын
No wonder why is my dad favorite movie
@inesatt1313
@inesatt1313 2 ай бұрын
I love the first Gladiator it was deep and amazing
@VTdarkangel
@VTdarkangel 2 ай бұрын
We don't talk about the 2nd.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 ай бұрын
​@@VTdarkangel 2nd is alright too. Just doesn't do anything new.
@gmoney5709
@gmoney5709 Ай бұрын
@Comicbroe405, the second rule of Fight Club is we DON'T talk about Gladiator 2. Ever.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 Ай бұрын
@@gmoney5709 I'm gonna. I enjoyed it a lot.
@Boatswain_Tam
@Boatswain_Tam 2 ай бұрын
"Carry out the... dream of the man whom he loved" And that man, in all ways except for blood, was his father, the emperor. This gnawed at Commodus to no end because he could never be the son that Marcus Aurelius wanted
@sit-insforsithis1568
@sit-insforsithis1568 Ай бұрын
Still blood matters a lot.
@jlodomauthor
@jlodomauthor 2 ай бұрын
This made me desperately want to re-watch this. It's been a while.
@Aethelhart
@Aethelhart 18 күн бұрын
Your videos have been a tremendous encouragement in a difficult season. Keep up the good work.
@justthinkingoutloud2538
@justthinkingoutloud2538 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always. Since discovering your channel, it's because one of my favorites. You never fail to inspire!
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@zacharymrosko8929
@zacharymrosko8929 2 ай бұрын
Halo and "I Vow To Thee My Country" in the background of a good video essay, excellent taste!
@michaelman957
@michaelman957 2 ай бұрын
We are entertained, Samwise. And edified.
@stevenhayes7910
@stevenhayes7910 2 ай бұрын
"Ideas are bulletproof"
@MathewSteeleAtheology
@MathewSteeleAtheology Ай бұрын
Ideas are bulletproof, yes, because they only exist in the mind. Protect them from any analysis or critical thinking and they remain perfect. But not in the real world. That's where our culture is having a crisis, the real world.
@williamflummer3240
@williamflummer3240 Ай бұрын
Powerful words. To lay your life down for your friends is one thing; to do it for your enemies is something else.
@Shura31412
@Shura31412 2 ай бұрын
Maximus-> Tied up, surrounded by enemy guards, everyone he loves is dead, he will die soon and he knows that Also Maximus- "God does not put a man in a situation that he cannot handle."
@jodieg6318
@jodieg6318 2 ай бұрын
When people critique that making heroes paragons make them uninteresting and lacking in character they ignore the depth of character in the fortitude needed to choose good. Virture may not be it's own reward as Maximus starts his mission on a quest of personal vengeance, but his story echo through may other stories; weather its Balian from Kingdom of Heaven being advised "what you decide to do everyday will make you a good man or not" and Dr. Erskine extracting the promise from Steve Rogers "That you will stay who you are, not a perfect soldier, but a good man." A hero must have something to fight for lest he loose the fortitude to be a good man.
@peterwilson1344
@peterwilson1344 Ай бұрын
You should do a video on Benjamin Martin from the Patriot. Seams right in line with your streak of masculine fathers trying to parent children during brutal times. Also starts as a “revenge” plot but when the chips are down revenge is not the choice made.
@bepped
@bepped Ай бұрын
This has got to be one of the best videos you've written -- well done, Master
@Hornet_GTS
@Hornet_GTS 2 ай бұрын
Your use of OG Halo music as a background throughout this video worked masterfully BTW.
@weiling2201
@weiling2201 Ай бұрын
Complete aside--I love the inclusion of Holst’s Jupiter towards the end. Thank you for sharing your breakdown of the journey Maximus’s interiority takes. I’m sure the screenwriters would have loved seeing someone pick up what they’ve put down so many years after the movie’s release.
@deandredukes95
@deandredukes95 2 ай бұрын
Heroism is not only in the man, but in the occasion.
@bradcase3101
@bradcase3101 2 ай бұрын
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
@GergelyFarkas-u3g
@GergelyFarkas-u3g 2 ай бұрын
I do not remain here out of immortality’s courage. I remain here because, if I am to die, I choose this death. I choose to die with my back to the last door. I choose to give my life to buy another hour, or a minute, or even a single second of grace to those who cannot be here fighting with me. I choose to die here because I do not believe I have yet given all I can. ~ Sanguinius - Echoes of Eternity
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms Ай бұрын
For the record, the vast majority of gladiatorial fights ended without anyone dying or being seriously injured. Gladiators were athletes and celebrities, fight organizers put a lot of time and money into training them, feeding them, housing them. If at all possible, they didn't want to lose all that investment, and the spectators wouldn't want to see their favorite fighter die. It was just another violent sport, no different from MMA or boxing today, only with a lot more emphasis on spectacle. Gladiators were a business, and a very profitable one at that. Many gladiators volunteered to fight to pay off debts because of how much money there was to be earned from the sport. Of course, the organizers took most of the money earned, but the gladiators were hardly poor
@taliablack4080
@taliablack4080 2 ай бұрын
On a side note, your line here 4:45 about men coveting power are often the least deserving of it made me think of Silco from Arcane. One of the most interesting parts about Silco's character is that though he covets power and respect, he does not crave it solely for himself. He spent years in the shadows of the Undercity preparing to assert command over the criminal underground in order to make his power seem absolute. This was meant to make it seem to Piltover, when he deemed the time right, that he was a legitimate threat, and he could and would burn Piltover to the ground along with Zaun if they did not agree to give them their independence. However, none of his motivations were entirely selfish. As we see in the flashback in season 2, Silco, Vander and Vi's mom were all part of a moment to bring together the Undercity and achieve independence from their oppressors. Silco even told Vander in season 1 that everything he had been doing was to force Piltover to see the citizens of the Undercity as more than the rats that live in their gutters. Silco wanted power in order to make Zaun a reality.
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 2 ай бұрын
Maximus is the best!! A soldier of Rome!
@jordanator1000
@jordanator1000 2 ай бұрын
Man, you don't miss. Having Halo OST alongside Gladiator?! Great analysis of prime cinema with amazing scoring. This is why I look forward to all your videos. Thank you 💛
@felixborges7440
@felixborges7440 2 ай бұрын
Small critique here but Commodus killing Maximum’s family isn’t just to instill fear. There is also the practical element that if you let your political opponents heir live they are likely to come back to challenge you further down the road. Happens all the time in political history. Especially when dealing with monarchies. Remember what Hannah Arendt wrote about the banality of evil. It’s important to remember that a lot of times some of the worst atrocities come out of a completely rational state of mind. It isn’t always that the bad guys are just depraved people who want to cause pain and destruction. Even Darth Vader once upon a time, loved Padame.
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 2 ай бұрын
Good point. Commodus is pretty depraved though
@felixborges7440
@felixborges7440 2 ай бұрын
Yeah he was. All I’m trying to say is that you can have good reasons to do harsh brutal things. It doesn’t justify it tho
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 2 ай бұрын
@ completely agree!
@janette2422
@janette2422 2 ай бұрын
I think that's what made Kill Bill so good; because it was more than revenge for her; it was justice for her child and not wanting anyone else to be fooled by Bill like she was.
@branna3606
@branna3606 2 ай бұрын
First video of yours I see, great job! You earned a new subscriber. Such a great analysis of the movie, highlighting important aspects that are usually overlooked.
@jeremiahjones9940
@jeremiahjones9940 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful video as always
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@albertblay277
@albertblay277 2 ай бұрын
I am just now realizing how similar of a character arc this is to Kaladin from Stormlight.
@TheKidNamedHosea
@TheKidNamedHosea 2 ай бұрын
I thought this the first time I read WoK. Turns out Gladiator wasn't an inspiration for Sanderson's Kal, at least Sanderson hasn't ever claimed that.
@ChairmanKam
@ChairmanKam 2 ай бұрын
In answer to your question yes. Yes I am entertained. As always playing "Spot the Halo music" was satisfying.
@zamaei66
@zamaei66 2 ай бұрын
1:46 yeah, you know who else is like that, Arthur morgan. Looking forward to see your video about it sam .
@GulfOfAmerica25
@GulfOfAmerica25 27 күн бұрын
The best movie of our time
@Slexylexy
@Slexylexy 2 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one!!!
@thefudgebot
@thefudgebot 20 күн бұрын
Halo music in a gladiator video is hilarious and awesome
@Nightmare-cr3iw
@Nightmare-cr3iw 16 күн бұрын
I'm not crying, your crying......
@protozoanpro
@protozoanpro Ай бұрын
Within the first minute, bro is already tying LotR quotes into a Gladiator video.. yeah I gotta like and sub
@jglazebrook8930
@jglazebrook8930 Ай бұрын
If mere survival is my ONLY hope, then self-sacrificial masculinity will be an appropriate revenge. This is the theme I see in Gladiator and is still appropriate for life today.
@CW11721
@CW11721 2 ай бұрын
Love this channel - I only wish I had time to watch more of the movies and shows before a video came out on them. Still love the Halo music - Marty O'Donnell is awesome - I hope you'll do a video on Halo someday.
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
One day!
@michaelman957
@michaelman957 2 ай бұрын
Sam, a book trilogy I think you'd like is Sword and Serpent by T Marshall. It's a retelling if St. George and the Dragon, set in the period of the Diocletion persecution. As I watched this I was reminded of the arc of Jurian (George) in those books, and the 2nd book even has gladiatorial games. Excellent series, plenty of heroic masculinity and femininity. I'm not a huge T. Marshall fan, but this trilogy is impeccable.
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
I'll check it out!
@eszterbalogh5252
@eszterbalogh5252 2 ай бұрын
It was a beautiful video indeed again, thank you. As for the sequel, there is so many reason why it should not exist: One the first is a complete experience no need to add anything to it. Second Hollywood really start to other episodes in roman history especially the eastern roman empire.
@bradleysmith7039
@bradleysmith7039 2 ай бұрын
Me over here peeping that Cosmere set on the shelf behind you
@jhussey19
@jhussey19 Ай бұрын
Wrapping up with “O God Beyond All Praising” was so fire
@НатальяБирюкова-ъ9т
@НатальяБирюкова-ъ9т 7 күн бұрын
Dude, you would perfect as Lex Luthor
@angelicambyence
@angelicambyence 2 ай бұрын
This video is so good. You are so good at what you do. I hope you can have members in the future (I’m not a fan of Patreon) so you can be the first channel I become a member to. The quality and the analysis is top notch. Thank you for your work ❤️
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 ай бұрын
Rare Ytber who can actually talk about politics & masculinity in his videos the smart way.
@eliel14ful
@eliel14ful 2 ай бұрын
Because the videos we produce eco in the algorithm.... I lament the day movies stop being this profoundly inspirational, this is a Roman epic like no other, stoicism shown to the masses like Marcus Aurelius intended
@Echo_Mike
@Echo_Mike 2 ай бұрын
Great videos mate keep it up
@MrBern-ex3wq
@MrBern-ex3wq 2 ай бұрын
Justice at its most primitive, its most instinctual, at its core, is born of the rage that bubbles in our hearts when we see something wrong with the world, I believe. And it grows into the desire to rectify that wrong. To heal that wound, to fix that broken thing, to mend that relationship, to bring peace to that turmoil. It is not about law and order, it's about right and wrong. So justice, at is core, is a creative impulse. And vengeance is its sister. Vengeance, at its core, is a desire to punish. To take out your pain on the one who inflicted it, to inflict pain, and terror, and regret on them. To vest upon them such ruin that they would never dare to hurt you again, if they survive, which if they don't then you're assured that they will not hurt you again. Or anyone else. Vengeance, at its core, is a destructive impulse. And sometimes they meet. Sometimes what's wrong with the world is that an unrepentant, remorseless degenerate is out wreaking havoc in some way or another and will not stop until they're either dead or behind bars in a life sentence. But many times they do not. So always remember: vengeance we seek the harm of others, while in justice we seek the good of others. In both cases we will end up where we're headed.
@BCbattlecombat
@BCbattlecombat Ай бұрын
Great video! 👍
@AmericanImperium1776
@AmericanImperium1776 2 ай бұрын
Gladiator is a fantastic movie, one of Russell Crowe’s best. 👍 P.S. Have you seen the Karate Kid and Cobra Kai?
@danielherrin
@danielherrin 2 ай бұрын
If Commidus had left Maximus family alone, the movie would have been much shorter.
@DanaosV5
@DanaosV5 Ай бұрын
Amazing analysis!!!!
@filipelouro1482
@filipelouro1482 Ай бұрын
The Halo 3 soundtrack was such a nice choice!
@97MrStew
@97MrStew Ай бұрын
Excellent video man!
@TheDarthSoldier
@TheDarthSoldier Ай бұрын
I love the music of Gustav Holst in the background
@DanielGrigg-d2n
@DanielGrigg-d2n 2 ай бұрын
“What will Washington do now that the war is over?” He will return to his farm.” “If he does that, then he will be the most remarkable man in the world.”
@Aurabolt
@Aurabolt 5 күн бұрын
17:33 -If a Tyrant is dead, then that does save many. Like…I’d the vengeance he has a problem? Yeah, but he is serving a Justice if this Caesar is taken out because he can’t hurt anyone unjustly himself anymore. While not Marcus’ motivation, it is his actions which bring about change.
@MitchellOwens-j6x
@MitchellOwens-j6x Ай бұрын
Revenge is about the past. Justice is about protecting the future.
@bradyburick1367
@bradyburick1367 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering if maybe you could cover the masculinity of Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima, he's a great character with a beautiful and tragic story filed with war loss and triumph and I'd love to hear your take on it as I have so many others 💜
@A5oe
@A5oe 2 ай бұрын
Gladiator and gow music? How did i not think of it before
@nothing_is_written0_069
@nothing_is_written0_069 2 ай бұрын
Bro, your videos are way too underrated
@ludicrousfunone5705
@ludicrousfunone5705 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately I can't agree because true humans, as Carl Jung says: recognise their own darkness. To be a complete person you must recognise all of yourself not just the light but the darkness also. However the rest of this video is fantastic!!!!! P.s. just realised that Tokein himself said that Manwe had a flaw and his flaw was that he couldn't understand evil at all!!!!!!
@haydenlane9600
@haydenlane9600 2 ай бұрын
God damn this is such a good movie
@rosant7074
@rosant7074 Ай бұрын
Those who stand againts tyrrany and oppresion shall forever be engraved on their history.
@potatolord2196
@potatolord2196 2 ай бұрын
Have you ever considered doing a video on Stannis Baratheon because he has to be the most misunderstood character in fiction, both by audiences and characters in the sroty.
@master_samwise
@master_samwise 2 ай бұрын
I have not, but that is because I have yet to watch Game of Thrones. I find it hard to work up the will to do so, knowing it ends so poorly.
@Loves2Flowers
@Loves2Flowers 2 ай бұрын
@@master_samwiseOhhh noo!! Allow yourself to at least watch the first 4 seasons of GoT. Don’t let the “ending” cheat you out of the beginning! For myself, the hype around Gladiator 2 made me watch Gladiator 1. Seems to me Glad2 is mainly a Hollywood rehash/ rewind/ recycle of Glad1 BUT … if they hadn’t made the sequel, I nigh have never watched my (Now FAVORITE) movie of all time. Same thing in GoT, by the end, it was more about making a commercial “crowd pleaser” … but the beginning?!?!? Worth every minute
@eszterbalogh5252
@eszterbalogh5252 2 ай бұрын
Yes, yes Stannis is much better in the books
@ravendelacour1917
@ravendelacour1917 2 ай бұрын
I will point out had Maximus feigned loyalty to Commodus and quietly arranged a coup with Senatorial assistance later, his life and family would be in much better shape. Machismo isn't always the best method of solving problems.
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it would not have been honest. I think Maximus values honesty as well.
@ravendelacour1917
@ravendelacour1917 2 ай бұрын
@@Eilonwy95 Over the lives of his family and everyone else he gets killed? That smacks more of ego than honor. How many people have to die so he can virtue signal his slave morality?
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 2 ай бұрын
@ As MasterSamwise says, I don’t believe he thought commodus would kill his family. And I don’t think he was virtue signaling so much as trying sincerely do the right thing. There is a difference. You can definitely make an argument that honesty isn’t as high of a good as his potential to help Rome by being dishonest. But he clearly was not doing this for himself. He knew he at least could die
@ravendelacour1917
@ravendelacour1917 2 ай бұрын
@@Eilonwy95 This is the issue with a rigid adherence to an external system of socially conditioned behavior. Maximus might attribute moral value in rigidly following a mode of behavior set by the societal elite to control him by eliminating certain tactics such as deception and call it "good", but the ones who set that standard of behavior don't follow it themselves. It's a form of control to place the ruled at a disadvantage to their rulers. And Maximus for all his initial social power is one of the ruled. His power is easily stripped from him once he decides to oppose his rulers. So rather than break that conditioning and achieve security for not only his family but the people of the Empire's he swore to protect, he lets them suffer because he failed to realize Commodus as a member of the ruling elite was unbound by the same conditioning and operated through ruthless tenets of master morality.
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 2 ай бұрын
@ Yeah obviously if morality is preached to control others that’s an issue. One can certainly argue whether or not deception would have been the more moral route in this case. There has to be some objective morality of course. We can all (well unless one is depraved) agree that there are certain actions that are immoral, such as murdering a toddler. So it follows that we should figure out what actions are the right ones to take and act accordingly. People like commodus might not follow it, but that is their fault, not Maximus’s. Attributing the immorality of Commodus’s actions to Maximus is major victim blaming. Again, one could argue that it may have been more prudent to not openly reject commodus. But his family’s murder is on commodus, not him.
@nicholasmeyer9221
@nicholasmeyer9221 2 ай бұрын
Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
@druidl
@druidl 2 ай бұрын
Shadows and Dust!
@anonbattler
@anonbattler Ай бұрын
It's nice that you are able to see the depth of meaning in Gladiator. However, you seem to be trying to separate Maximus' motivations of self-interest and service to others and admonishing the former as if it's something he (and the rest of us) should avoid or feel guilty about. Marcus Aurelius himself said "What is good for the bee is good for the hive." And this is repeated by Buddhists in the saying "'What you do for yourself, you’re doing for others, and what you do for others, you’re doing for yourself'" as well as "Attain your own liberation to help others attain theirs." So when Maximus was seeking vengeance for himself, he was also working towards the freedom of Rome even though the latter was not on his mind. And when he was seeking freedom for Rome, he was also working towards getting his vengeance even though that was not on his mind. If the motivations lead to the same ends, it doesn't matter.
@marshallmarvin1369
@marshallmarvin1369 Ай бұрын
Great video
@OriginsofEternity
@OriginsofEternity Ай бұрын
4:52 halo soundtrack??
@ZWilson2000
@ZWilson2000 Ай бұрын
Curious for the thoughts on what the second movie does to this one by subtle changes to the plot. Mostly the implications of things unseen in either movie.
@Aurabolt
@Aurabolt 5 күн бұрын
17:33 -If a Tyrant is dead, then that does save many. Like…I’d the vengeance he has a problem? Yeah, but he is serving a Justice if this Caesar is taken out because he can’t hurt anyone unjustly himself anymore. While not Marcus’ motivation, it is his actions which bring about change. He seems pretty useless by walking away with only words for Caesar though.
@StsFiveOneLima
@StsFiveOneLima Ай бұрын
Absolute excellence.
@BriefingData
@BriefingData Ай бұрын
Still loving the use of the Halo soundtrack
@jamesknott5255
@jamesknott5255 2 ай бұрын
On the flip side though, a man who does NOT desire power, shouldn’t necessarily be given power.
@reggiefurlow1
@reggiefurlow1 2 ай бұрын
I would think that maximus found his glory in the continuing of Rome
@iyot1020
@iyot1020 2 ай бұрын
Maximus kept calling commodus your highness instead of Caesar itself a defiance for not recognizing him being an emperor
@mktf5582
@mktf5582 2 ай бұрын
Uhtred of Bebbanburg - Ah Sahm (Warrior netflix/HBO Max) next please
@jtucker4462
@jtucker4462 2 ай бұрын
We are entertained.
@ivanstrydom8417
@ivanstrydom8417 2 ай бұрын
There is only ONE Gladiator movie.
@rickelijah4270
@rickelijah4270 2 ай бұрын
What's your opinion on the second movie?
@deadj4731
@deadj4731 2 ай бұрын
Love the video, but I cannot disagree strongly enough with your take on vengeful Maximus being comparable in depravity to Commodus. Even at his worst he couldn't act out his vengeance with a child present. He spoke a big game of vengeance and I'm sure he meant it, but he had limits he wouldn't cross. Else he would have stabbed Comodus with the arrow head in his hand.
@Eilonwy95
@Eilonwy95 Ай бұрын
Oh Maximus was always a much better man than commodus. He still had a moral code.
@speedboy5218
@speedboy5218 2 ай бұрын
God of war Valhalla coming soon?
@aarondemiri486
@aarondemiri486 2 ай бұрын
Only the courts can provide justice....I am fairly confident on this.
@Inflatedchair
@Inflatedchair 2 ай бұрын
5th time subbing because youtube likes unsubbing me
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