7 (BIG!) REVERB MISTAKES

[@7EEVEE]

*wHERE DO THEY COME FROM*

[@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355]

I*M FREAKIN' OOOOOUUUT!!!

[@icekurimu1688]

Lool

[@Heyitsredbands]

​@@icekurimu1688 I CAN'T HEAR THEIR SSOOUNNDSS

[@ryanflemingdesign]

all around

[@sigmatheenigma]

😭😂

[@slim1275]

I had to stop the video at 7 minutes because you said something extremely critical - make sure the reverb ends between snare hits. I am in the process of recording a new piece and have fallen in love with the flt plate reverb in studio one. The problem is, I leave it on the factory setting because I do not know how long is long enough or too long (which is why I use the flat plate, very subtle reverb that adds just enough room sound). As soon as you said to solo the snare and make sure it ends between hits, I went to my current mix and checked it. Sure enough, the reverb tail bled between hits. I shortened the snare reverb, and instantly the snare jumped out of the mix. It was no longer buried in a Claude Monet sea of reverb. Now I need to finish watching this video. Thanks so much!

[@masteringcom]

Awesome! So glad we could help!

[@JiriKrewinkel]

You could also sidechain the reverb to the snare

[@ItsKyleMan]

@@JiriKrewinkel side chaining reverb is life changing.

[@goo894]

The Claude Monet metaphor is beautiful.

[@Bfreee239]

60,000 divided by the bpm of the song equals the quarter note in milliseconds. 💎 divide by two and that’s the eighth note and so on. Multiply by 2 and that’s the half note and so on. Go be great man!

[@FatalBlow113]

00:24 - Mistake #1 05:40 - Mistake #2 08:08 - Mistake #3 11:46 - Mistake #4 15:26 - Mistake #5 19:16 - Mistake #6 21:13 - Mistake #7

[@jiznak2000]

Thank you!

[@amkmu5ic]

Song is stuck in my head. Did someone have a bad camping trip?

[@alanredversangel]

Did we ever figure out where those animals came from?

[@Malignus68]

From a syringe or a glass tube, I'm pretty sure.

[@officialWWM]

I dunno but I'm freakin out!

[@alanredversangel]

@Harvey Omar You're out of prison?

[@comradebrucewayne2607]

When you describe how boosting/cutting certain frequencies of the reverb can control the tone of the entire sound that blew my mind. The approach of listening for the whole sound rather than the reverb alone makes a lot of sense, thank you

[@dkyx]

Just a suggestion for future videos; Try exaggerating the wet signal in examples such as these (and then dialing it down) so we can more easily hear the applied effect while the music is playing. Nice tip about making the reverb tail die out before the next snare hit btw.

[@masteringcom]

Thanks for the feedback! We'll keep that in mind!

[@adsertheblade]

he did! thats why he turned the fader all the way up

[@georgebarry3153]

@@masteringcom he has a point.

[@antennastoheaven]

8th mistake: ignoring pre-delay setting.

[@matt_glista]

THIS! Especially on vocals. All the songs I've ruined ignoring predelay...

[@Cross_Culture_Media]

I have never heard of that before. All though I'm very new. I'd love to see something on that

[@jessicamoreno7135]

@@Cross_Culture_Media get the pre delay to shoot up just after the original sound. Sounds clean that way. If you want to get technical dont even worry about predelay and use sidechain compression so it comes up automatically after the sound has finished playing.

[@jacksvocals]

60,000 ÷ bpm ÷ 4 ÷4 = pre-delay setting

[@ChallisKelvin]

@@jessicamoreno7135 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJKZg6aMaLxoZqM

[@tanukibrahma]

Excellent presentation. Separate snare verb (usu. a little longer than the room) can work well in rock.

[@jorgepeterbarton]

-predelay to give clarity and size -compress AFTER reverb, allowing it bigger but shorter as it brings up the tail, but lowers when the instrument 'attacks' -sometimes turning diffusion, size, or whichever name is given can be 'larger'. -you can EQ in so many ways, like an intentionally audible reverb tail could be eq'd in the same way you'd separate two instruments! if you want it separate, you can also make it blend in more, or add prescence, or mud, whatever you like. -dial it in full wet, then mix back the dry after and you won't feel like trying to hide it after if that's what's needed. -don't turn down the decay on drums: use a gate! it doesn't need to be fast, it can have a slow release/hold so it only comes off just before the next hit. Or you can find a way of ducking the verb from the snare. Or as above use less verb but compress it so its brought up only when snare isn't playing. BONUS -use natural reverb and distant mics and find you don't have to do any of this unless its an intentional spacey track. lol.

[@Rex-dk1rx]

Different for electronic music it is used as a effect to drive the track sometimes

[@Uemitay]

As a ableton guy i have to admit chromVerb looks pretty amazing, also like logics space designer

[@evilst.management8810]

give it a try man, you wont be disappointed.

[@Uemitay]

i believe you, but since im a windows user there is no way, and getting a macbook because of logic would be a overkill for me (not to mention all the flaws newer gen. macbooks have...) but yeah ableton live is a workflow beast, the main reason i love it so much :)

[@Cross_Culture_Media]

Just to let ya know. If you get a virtual machine program. You can run Logic Pro X from your virtual Machine

[@openize1928]

@@Cross_Culture_Media Doesn't that requires high amount of CPU and RAM? (also gpu)

[@mwdiers]

Brady Hickman No, you really can't. Not without terrible performance and, basically, setting up the VM as a hackintosh and violating the macOS license.

[@CoolDudeClem]

I prefer to use delay rather than reverb, i usually use delay or a long reverb on the lead sounds, and a short reverb on the master, but i always cut the lows off on the master reverb or else iT sounds too "rumbly"

[@arvi6129]

Great tips! Thx. I would add - Try to automate reverb if U don't want to push sound back but still want some depth :)

[@christopherclarke3022]

Just as a little follow up and with being creative, one way of approaching reverb is look out as where would you like your band to sound like there playing (environment). Small room, large under a bridge, subway, etc. In which case look at the characteristics of the sound of the environment. And try and simulate it in which case you will need to consider the pre-delay time. (the time it takes for the first reflection from a surface the sound vibration/s reflect off). Some, if not most Revs will have presets but it may require a little tweaking. To create the the environment in mind. As was mentioned in the clip tone will also play a fairly important roll to create your enviroment. Keep in mind often the large the room the longer the pre-delay/s time and often a dip in the high end frequency and attenuation as the sound travels further from the original sound source. This is just a quick start for any one viewing the comments to start the ball rolling if some would like to get a little more adventurous when feeling more confident with using reverb and not to take anything away from this very useful clip for those unsure or having a few hick ups using reverb.

[@DavidRosario69]

Believe it or not, I learned A LOT about the physics of reverb from the Alesis Quadraverb manual. It explains pre-delay, early reflections, diffusion, and density. Those are interesting topics which should be covered in order to truly understand how reverb works and how to effectively adjust those settings in plugins which have them.

[@voloofficialx4192]

I admit i've never thought about switching stereo/mono the reverb aux, in fact it's correct to do it in different cases. What about using a mono reverb in a dense mix in order to avoid to add messiness and vice versa spread it to stereo in a roomy mix?! sounds sensible, right?!

[@masteringcom]

Great technique in a dense mix 😉

[@voloofficialx4192]

thanks for this tip once again 😉

[@Umit_Ozdemir]

Great tutorial however I wish to hear something for predelay which has a big impact for a right reverb

[@CaesarOleksy]

And Replika! ... love how Replika sounds... but great tip to use a few and combine in the mix depending how they sound! Thanks Much!

[@masteringcom]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheCooldude2057]

been watching your videos all night and I feel like I've learnt so much, loving your channel!

[@Fornicras]

Mistake #2 and #3 don't really apply to all genres. I make Comtemp. R&B, my instrumentals generally don't have many instruments in them and there are a lot of gaps between them so I use 4 seconds of reverb most of the time and sometimes make vocals more than %50 reverbed.

[@dennisvanopstal7360]

I make Doomcore and you need a big dark hall sound. Most of the sounds need to drown in reverb for that effect. 😎

[@dennisvanopstal7360]

@Critical Unity do you know Hardcore Techno music ? Or Gabba how its sometimes called ? Doomcore is a Subgenre of that style. Very slow and dark electronic music with deep kicks and lots of atmospheric sounds. Max. Around 140 BPM But often around 110 BPM and sometimes pretty simular to Dark Techno

[@officialWWM]

There are no rules in music...

[@dennisvanopstal7360]

@@SeanPeckham-xe2gt uhm no its not Gabber is a Dutch name for the same thing as Hardcore, Hardcore Techno or Hardcore House Or Gabber House Or Gabba All the same thing. These days its referred to as Early Hardcore. Because Mainstream Hardcore (another name for the same thing) is devided in era's these days Everything from the late 80's to roughly 99 / 00 is called Early 00 to 09 is Millenium Hardcore and now we entered a new decennium they will probably come up with a new term. Dont get me started about all of this I am into this since 1994.

[@dennisvanopstal7360]

@@SeanPeckham-xe2gt i am using them interchangeably because they are. I was there. I am not talking about the Hardcore from Punk scene. I am not talking about the Hardcore from the UK rave scene - the scene where the Prodigy came from I am talking about the Hardcore from the House / Techno scene.

[@richypitch]

Useful video, lots of good points, one thing, shouldn't different types of instruments have their own unique reverb bus so you can manage the sound of each better?

[@Xeotroid]

What do you think about convolution reverb? Each impulse sample you can have pretty much sounds like a different reverb plug-in and it can give the sound a unique atmosphere, plus it can be used for interesting effects.

[@masteringcom]

It can be great tool!

[@juggstickkofficial477]

if you divide 60,000 by your bpm you will get a perfect decay time. If it is too long continue dividing by 2 until it sounds right. Your welcome guys!

[@juggstickkofficial477]

And the predelay should be half of the decay time

[@Cr8Tron]

Good one!! And, despite any abilities to host delay times with project tempos, people should already know to use the number 60,000/bpm for calculating delay times!!

[@Cr8Tron]

@@SeanPeckham-xe2gt I agree that one still needs to know how to use their ears. But JuggStickk did in fact say to adjust from 60000/bpm as a starting point, which is essentially saying to use one's ears. However, the more specifically I think about this (and from experience), it's probably more likely going to be the case that you'll need to continue *multiplying* by 2 until it sounds "right". And the predelay should be more like an eighth or sixteenth of 60000/bpm, considering that most reverbs' predelays can't even be set for as long as a quarter of that time (unless we're talking close to 200 bpm). Also, it should be noted that properly setting the decay time will involve subtracting whatever the predelay is set to, if there's to be any integrity with all this RT60 business.

[@KablethaKiid]

I like Breverb as my go to Reverb EchoBoy for my delays 👍 Great vid, thanks dude!

[@riversideproductionztv]

Keep sharing this great info man!

[@andyhooper8641]

I watched this video last night and I couldn’t get this song out of my head. So I’m back again tonight. IM FREAKING OUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTT

[@kingmedaempire1138]

this was very helpfull thank u

[@masteringcom]

No problem!

[@Rose-bw8kd]

Love ur videos man ty for everything

[@ezion67]

For more electronic music I like to have 2 reverb buses. One with a short and one with a "longer" (2, maybe 3 seconds) reverb to push some sounds in to the background.

[@DrFillyBlunt]

Great tips. Some of this I know, some I don't. Your videos are really helpful. I like using a compressed and band-passed early reflection in rverb or truverb to fatten up the body of snares. It isn't hard to have snare transients that tread water in a mix but the meat of the snare can be tricky.

[@Vambibuda]

always useful info.

[@cbrooks0905]

I’ve never been so annoyed by the dislike bar. I’m just going to chalk it up as other mixing channels who can’t compete with your guru-ness. Dude... ...the nuggets in this video... ...and all of your others... ...funny thing is, most of the things I learn from your videos is in the realm of affirmation/confirmation. Many times I’ve thought of ideas, not sure whether they’re right or wrong (especially being that I’m self taught) just to stumble across one of your videos wherein you articulate the very idea I had. There’s so much to gain from this kind of validation. Really, what I’ve learned, in general, and from you and other great channels [Warren H., Steve Albini (comes off a little pretentious but I get him), Andrew S.....all of them...👍) is that it all boils down to art and personal preference. Of course you must learn the “bread and butter”, but after that, you’re creating art. If it sounds good. It’s good. Thanks for making these videos, my friend. If only the casual listener knew the service we provide, as musicians and engineers...

[@tuomashelin555]

Sometimes reverb can be used to emphasize a part of lyrics. Take a listen to what Martin Hannet did with the song "Twenty Four Hours" on Joy Division's album "Closer". Listen with good headphones to the verses " I never realized / how I wanted time / put into perspective..." Anywho, "Closer" is a master class in the (creative) use of reverb.

[@anoopkvpoduval]

After putting a delay and reverb on seperate buses, they sound seperately like a dry delay embedded in a reverb room. If I add them in the same bus as inputs one after then other, they mix well together but in overall sounds muddy. What's the right way to add delay+reverb ? How to ensure the reverb sits on top of the delay? Help!

[@thomastreppenhauerphotosho3972]

great ideas! Thank you

[@chrishorton8460]

Thank you! This was actually really helpful for me.

[@masteringcom]

Our pleasure! So glad we could help!

[@dnoguimusik]

Niceee great advices 💯

[@nacelloman]

Well done. Very convincing approach. But I'm surprised that you only sent the snare and Guitars to the reverb. You can't have cohesion if you don't put all instruments in the same room. Just try to send all groups, instruments, submixes etc... to the same reverb and dial the send amount to your liking. You'll be happy with how everything will find place in the same room reverb. Just a thought.

[@blameadam4031]

bro you are very good at what you do.

[@louduzit]

This Song Is LEGENDARY

[@samturner8177]

when EQing the reverb, should you match the bands to what instrument it applies for?

[@alejandroduque718]

Thank you for existing

[@subramaniamchandrasekar1397]

Sometimes you insert effects sometimes you remove the the (guitar) effect unit to sound good. Good video

[@TheGRider56]

Awesome lesson!

[@safiulalamantar7287]

good mixes, where do they come from

[@MichaelSmith-on1ig]

Quality video! I wish the Michael ten years ago would have watched that

[@AbhiBass96]

Could we have a little bit of compression happening on the bus? Just to gel everything together?

[@ShotByToweh]

could you do one that focuses on vocals? kind of hard to hear in the midth of everything else for us beginnings

[@johncostopoulos7741]

great tutorial!!! Thanks so much

[@amkmu5ic]

Brilliant!

[@leongchilong]

THANKS MAN

[@sleepisoptional]

not one mention of gates??? try a gate on your snare verb keyed off the dry snare. you can push way more space and control the tail via the gate release knob

[@brianmclaughlin7104]

Can you please show me where you were featured on Produce Like A Pro? I see the keywords come up on the Google search and I can't find it anywhere. Thanks!

[@svenlindecrantz3927]

If you don't eq the reverb it gets messy in the mix

[@billysmart6825]

you should fix that bleed before applying reverb to the snare. Duplicate the snare track, heavily gate the duplicate, mute the track but use a pre fader send to the reverb. You will maintain the natural sound of the snare track with bleed, but no bleed will enter the reverb

[@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355]

Which channels in your opinion should i focus the verb bus on to be able to influence the main mix sound like this?

[@NewportScorpio]

I swear I can't hear the difference most of the time when comparing settings on and settings bypassed. Is there a specific type of headphones I need? The ones I'm wearing are the ones I'm using for this mixing stuff I'm trying to learn. So maybe I need more specialized headphones.

[@marksmusicplace3627]

Great points on reverb,. I just wish you guys would use better singers in your demo videos.

[@greghillmusic]

Hey man... tip for ya... Don't use the fader to control the reverb.. Leave that alone. Control it from the send knobs...

[@sinbadmusic7575]

So u added a reverb "underneath" the stereo delay but u had the reverb in a separate channel? Is that to keep the stereo delay a bit audible while feeding some of it into the reverb? Thanks in advance

[@BALTAOFC]

Sin Bad Music reverb / delay with reverb

[@KaruveliRaSaMahendran]

Superb... tips... thank you so much..

[@masteringcom]

So glad we could help!

[@madcat4881]

Loving your channel man, really enlightening and well portrayed. Can you link to a good video for making waveforms?

[@ivantorrent495]

Cool video! Great information)

[@BillGraper]

I put a lot of reverb on my song "Heaven" - but I think that's one rare case where it actually sounds good. I normally don't add much to the vocals. Sometimes it doesn't sound like there is any reverb at all, because it's so subtle.

[@sigmatheenigma]

Hear vs feel. I like plates on verses and chambers/halls for hooks

[@BillGraper]

@@sigmatheenigma I've never tried different reverbs on different parts of the vocals. I do love plates on vocals. I always think of the song "It Will Rain" by Bruno Mars. It sounds like a great plate reverb on the vocals.

[@williamoliveira1409]

Nice vid as always rob.

[@masteringcom]

Thanks William!

[@raulfau]

Thank you for all the videos. One question and I hope you can help me: I have reference tracks on Spotify but how do I go by having those into Logic to analyze and compare?

[@timwilderspin]

Spotify plays MP3s so you wouldn't want to compare your production with that, the sound quality is too low. Just buy the actual tracks at CD quality or lossless and import them as WAVs into your actual project so you can listen to them right alongside what you're making.

[@rickyguitarman3839]

Very interesting! thx

[@ryanolson858]

I watched the long video about the masterclass you offer. I was wondering why you don't recommend the course for someone interested in producing EDM music? This is what I want to do, and am basically a novice. I plan to include vocals in my tracks eventually, but was wondering where the line is drawn in your head when you said that the class is not for musicians producing EDM, trap, etc. Is this hard and fast? Please let me know, I'm extremely interested.

[@masteringcom]

Hey Ryan, Shoot us an email at [e-mail] and we can answer all those questions!

[@Freefromthehive]

lmao these great producers always mixing the weirdest songs i’ve ever heard

[@neovxr]

while you tried out I thought the fabfilter sounded most modern, and - tadaa you followed with a more detailed explanation then.

[@isaacmonson4403]

GREAT video 🙏 Just one question though... Is it cannon balls, cannibals, cannibas, or animals? 😬😬

[@sacredgeometry]

p.s. It's not "edge on the side of caution"... it's "err on the side of caution",

[@audiomez]

There you go man. Just an opinion from an old school audio geezer....but unless one is aspiring to truly Avant Guard tonality, and resonance of experimental ambience one should develop an acute auditory appreciation for (and back up mathematical verification) of temporal boundaries and cohesive coefficients for multiply treated delay, (pre and post), room size values, damping and gating factors co existing within a work, that the mixing and/or mastering engineer should notice might get dialed in using a solo bus beyond 4 hours of mixing, and fail to note those rumbles and roars (particularly in lows and low mids) across adjacent tracks resulting in diminutive effects on subtle yet nano seconds of brilliantly attack, placed and perfectly pocketed licks that exist as subtle nuances of brilliance within the work. The cancellation and masking effect of reverberation (usually resulting from aural fatigue during mix down), has ruined many otherwise perfect would be masterpieces. For an example of near perfect mix samples I propose one audition the subtleties and brilliance of Steely Dan's "AJA" project. That sweet spot I propose you keep referring to (despite the Pro Tools generation) is how the human auditory systems discriminates "things" that are cohesive IN NATURE.. Singing in your shower accompanied by a flatly equalized acoustic guitar, renders a acoustical result the auditory cortex just recognizes as mutant, and variant in my opinion. Such as that would likely never occur in a natural ambient acoustic environment. Values numerically and within Q slopes (eq bandwidth) should resolve to approximations of logarithmic even and odd number variables (or be dampened rather steeply when in doubt.) I'm old school, and plead guilty!! Food for thought!! Did you know that one of the leading causes of "hit by vehicle deaths" is having a total unilateral hearing loss in one ear??? How does the unfortunate pedestrian know from which direction an approaching vehicle is approaching???? Think about this in relation to the topic!!!

[@stephencarter8625]

Yea... what he said...!!

[@janicemcwilliams3773]

Fun song

[@Malignus68]

I feel like I could learn a lot from this video, if only I could get past that horrible song. I can't.

[@theanthill1001]

Your loss. If you ever want to mix properly, for yourself or professionally, you'll have to listen past your own preferences and hear what's going on in the mix.

[@xtan150]

Harsh

[@theanthill1001]

@@SeanPeckham-xe2gt One man's 'horrible song' is another man's masterpiece

[@urasam2]

I have a sudden urge to research African owls

[@Cr8Tron]

Yes, but, usually, doesn't a "drastic impact on the tone" = too much reverb?

[@justinmaticsmusic]

" I'm freaking out"

[@happydrumstick5371]

The singer seems familiar... what band is this?

[@RealSiViX]

Where do they come from!?!?!?

[@TheoVoidTV]

Im freakin' out!!!!!

[@acidmack1041]

Mixing and mastering tutorials are always rock songs 😂😂

[@fractal_gate]

Yes, it's either rock or adult contemporary lol.

[@CaymenV]

Someone needs a gate on that snare

[@repawnd1]

Your music sounds like a blend of Kurt Cobain and David Bowie :)

[@kaiquefranca5]

You got rid of the reverb right, but there are animals all around your mix. I can hear their sounds.

[@neovxr]

someone must be a fan of the Rolling Stones :) :)

[@neovxr]

why video remake?

[@officialWWM]

Sounds like the Beatles LSD era to me...

[@PabloEscobar-nz7zw]

Am I the only one whos kind of triggered by the fact that the sign which says without is green and with is red

[@itznoxy7193]

Couldn't make it through this one. Song was too annoying. :(

[@rathenslog8490]

Its horrible

[@goo894]

It's a great song :c

[@NEWfludd3DXL]

oh yeah are they (BIG!)?

[@troeteimarsch]

just go down that abbey road and u're fine..

[@preshyjames3646]

mistake #7 is just me

[@thoraht]

this is the most annoying song i have heard the last 290 years XDDD

[@crimewavbeats5532]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jensenraylight8011]

someday you will search the whole spotify, just to hear the song once more

[@benvanmassenhove]

Nirvana In bloom?

[@psilocyberspaceman]

For you who’d like to hear the final mix: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5DTYqeEnax0Zrc

[@Hello-pl2qe]

Hell diggin down

[@Yeounhoz]

리버브 실수하지말쟈

[@victorngwana832]

The lyrics is bestiality!!

[@rareaudiobooks_]

The entire first 5 minutes of this video is an EQ mistake. EQ should not be used to change the "tone" it should be used to add space. Drummers don't want their cymbals comb filtered randomly by an inexperienced mix goon, especially after paying thousands of dollars to record in a sonically perfect room.

[@fractal_gate]

The music is too good it's distracting! So catchy!