Masters of the Universe (He-Man): A brand that has always been about change. MOTU Changes

[@hamletstragedy8988]

As an original mini comic book mega fan, I really, really appreciate this. Ive ALWAYS preferred the cave man- conan version of MOTU.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I would love to see a show based on this!

[@CoyPowers]

That's always been my preferred continuity too. I grew up in an area with limited TV reception, so I didn't get regular access to the show. I'd read and reread the minicomics as a result, and it was 'my He-Man', though He-Man definitely taught me about multiple continuities early on.

[@MortimurGrimm]

I have always felt the same. I wasn’t much of a fan of the Filmation approach. That being said, I enjoyed the 200X series, though it too had Adam. Ultimately, MOTU from the mini-comics felt like a mixture between the fantasy realm of The Dark Crystal and a story within the pages of Heavy Metal Magazine.

[@ArchGeek]

Same.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Agreed. MOTU felt very much a very changeable brand that evolved and changed regularly. I love them.

[@traviswilcox3472]

Barbarian guy & green skin gal was how I was first introduced to those characters as a kid & it was much better. Loved those mini comics, great artwork. I watched the cartoon but it never felt as cool as the original origins.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I do really enjoy the old mini comics

[@mrspeigel3593]

Same here those first six mini comics were my MOTU.The cartoon was a if nothing else better is on thing for me.

[@MrMark-hm9lk]

The mini comics is why I became and and still a big he-man fan.

[@MrMark-hm9lk]

You know they have a HC collection of all the mini comics? Also, did the same for the comic strips. I got both and strongly recommend them.

[@mrspeigel3593]

@@MrMark-hm9lk what's it called? I found it its pretty obviously titled

[@joshuaH75]

I would love to see a series or animated movie depicting the early days of the MOTU backstory. It would be so different and could be very entertaining.

[@spectorcreative1872]

That would be really cool!

[@robd1329]

...thats an awesome idea! Too bad they dont listen or come up with something original

[@thochaos13]

@REFORMATTED 2086 I'd like to see it. As a kid I used both storylines interchangeably. I definitely understand your point though, as I'm not a fan of the 200X story and character changes as it doesn't fit how I see the line.

[@adamn.4615]

I'd love to see them combine all of the original mini-comics into a graphic novel, or at least find them all uploaded somewhere. I wasn't old enough to read when I got most of my vintage figures, so I was never able to read the comics from them. I only knew the Filmation cannon until I started watching Spector's videos.

[@leebirdwell7783]

@@adamn.4615 Dark Horse Comics released a hard cover book a couple of years ago that collects all the mini-comics ever produced from Vintage, New Adventures, She-Ra, and Classics.

[@espendahl9719]

The more barbarian / savage style of He-Man is my favorite take on The Masters Of The Universe.I would loved to see that version on screen one day.😎💪

[@spectorcreative1872]

I do like that aspect of the brand a lot

[@hamletstragedy8988]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Never took to the Prince Adam change very well.

[@KingCreole74]

Exactly the same for me. In my mind Masters of the Universe Eternia was a post apocalyptic world much like Earth in Thundar the Barbarian hence the medieval aspects mixed with future tech and sorcery.

[@nated1792]

Those first mini comics are burned into my brain. I still have all of them from back in the day. If it wasnt for you giving me the back story I never would have known why those books were so different. I love your channel and hearing all these back stories. Thank you for this channel. It's my favorite

[@spectorcreative1872]

A good thing to have in ones brain!

[@dariusq8894]

FYI Dark Horse Comics published a hardcover compendium of the original MotU mini-comics including He-Man, She-Ra, New Adventures, and even the 2002 reboot. It is glorious.

[@nated1792]

@@dariusq8894 oh hell yeah I did not know that. That's something I need cause I can't find the first mini comic. I have two of first three books but I can't find the beginning of the story. Thanks for the knowledge my man. Much appreciated brother

[@TheTurnipKing]

1:12 That's the problem. It wasn't established then. It is now. A brand carries certain expectations. That's WHAT a brand IS. You don't nessicarily have to obey those expectations (and indeed, sometimes it can be good not to), but if you do you're likely to get pushback, so if you're going to do it, do it for good reasons.

[@oansun]

but watch the video he did on the mystery of Wun-Dar, at that point people were indeed aware of the "invincibility" armor. This is an establishment of the original version. Snake Eyes wasn't a ninja at first, now theres a whole movie about it, certain segments dont like that version either. Most of the pushback on Revelations is coming from people with a passing knowledge and are into complaining just to have something to talk about. Which I mean its fine not to be deep into something you sort of like but also, don't use it as a platform without much knowledge

[@MungkaeX]

@@oansun when people like Alex “gay frogs” Jones are the ones who are some of the first if not the first to start bitching about something, you have to start questioning the motivations of those parroting back those talking points.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well said point

[@MrDrokkul]

I think the difference is that what you are referring to are the beginnings of the MOTU brand. Concepts and story lines were changed along the way as marketing and manufacturing decisions were made and honestly comparing the comic book to the cartoon is a moot point. Most all comic adaptations in the 80's were vastly different from the cartoons and the toys. Star Wars comics were maybe the least affected, but they did have differences to the source material. The Transformers comics were majorly different, GI Joe comics were different, Thundercats comics were different, etc etc. There were obvious character redesigns between toys and cartoons as needed as well that only served the purpose of either making animation easier or making characters more discernible from one another. Can you imagine the Transformers cartoon with accurate depictions of G1 Ironhide and Ratchet toys. Blegghh! Now we are going on 40 years of an established brand and changing things at this point is bound to spark at the very least conversation and at the most controversy. Especially when the upcoming series is billed as a direct continuation of the original cartoon series. I want this series to be good and am going into it with a completely open mind, but I must admit that it gives me some trepidation when I hear Kevin Smith continually make it sound like he has been a He-Man fan since day one. I still remember him saying on the Comic Book Men show back in the day that he "Had no love for He-Man" although he did recognize that it is something that people do like and that there is room in pop culture for different tastes. And I'm not saying that he couldn't have become a fan later in life, but he has really been representing himself as an "OG" MOTU fan since the series was announced. I have nothing against Kevin Smith either as he has made some films that are absolute bangers in pop culture, but over the past few years he has really started to feel more like he represents the corporate side of Hollywood rather than the creative side of Hollywood.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well for the new show I am in a wait and see approach

[@jeremymullens7167]

I don’t like Teela’s redesign. I feel like it’s really doesn’t look ‘cool’ and takes away from her femininity. But I guess it’s toxic to have sexy girls and half naked beefy guys running around. Teela looks like she has chest bindings to flatten her chest. I really dig the sorceress/Teela story with He-Man. Calls back to very old stories that connect it to King Arthur and the lady and the lake, Finn McCool and his female warrior trainer or Zeus and his time with the naiads that raised and taught him.

[@MrColuber]

Like someone once said: "We all change, when you think about it, we're all different people; all through our lives, and that's okay, that's good, you've gotta keep moving, so long as you remember all the people that you used to be. And Teela must never, ever, shave one side of her head. There are styles which will never be fashionable."

[@robd1329]

...shes now gay.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Very true

[@leebirdwell7783]

Always listen to the Doctor.

[@primelordoftheuniverse7835]

@@robd1329 how does one hair style make you gay a wrestler from Japan has the same hairstyle like teela since 2009

[@MrColuber]

@@primelordoftheuniverse7835 Is this specific wrestler a face or a heel?

[@rez6541]

I get what you're trying to say here but those changes were made for way different reasons then the revelations changes...

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh that is true too

[@rez6541]

@@spectorcreative1872 - poor motu it may not recover for a long time.

[@DiamondCrash]

@@rez6541 There's noting to recover from, it's not like the brand just up and died again like it did in the late 80's/early 90's. MOTU was dead in the water for years up until 200X and Classics breathed life back into it and made it more than just a fondly remembered piece of 80's pop culture. MOTU is arguably in the best place it's been in years with not one but THREE main toylines, two of which have animated shows backing them, and toys in a wide variety of other form factors like those Mega Construx sets, the Eternia Minis, Fisher Price toys, UNO cards. There's even a table top rpg coming out soon. MOTU's doing better than it has in years and as long as Mattel keeps putting it out there I doubt it'll be falling back into the void anytime soon.

[@AmbientShades]

@@DiamondCrash The same thing was done with the 200x line. It had trading cards, puzzles, even a McDonalds happy meal line. It still died a quick death.

[@DiamondCrash]

@@AmbientShades 200X bit the dust because the toyline didn't do very well and the show got canned due to low ratings. ThunderCats 2011 got put out to pasture pretty quick too for the same reasons. The implication in the original comment I replied to was that MOTU as a brand was damaged and in need of recovery simply because Revelations has made some changes to the characters and narrative, which isn't true at all. The brand is currently doing better than it has been for a while, it's all over the place and people are paying attention to it. It'll take a lot more than one show where Teela gets an undercut to do any kind of damage to the brand as a whole.

[@bigfathairywookie]

The concern of many MOTU fans is not about changes per se, but about the woke politics that Kevin Smith is allegedly bringing to the new Netflix series. While I don’t believe most of us are afraid of changes, we are certainly tired of leftist politics messing around with the things we love.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well for the new show I suppose we will all find out

[@nated1792]

@serick73 sounds like you have a lot of hate inside. Insults never win arguments. I think you need to grow up and see what's really going on in the world

[@cetialphav3214]

I'm just tired of leftists. Period. Their ideas are dumb as hell, more often than not racist, sexist and discriminatory and not to mention condescendingly insincere. Just entertain us and keep your trash politics to yourself.

[@nated1792]

@REFORMATTED 2086 lol I don't know,the way she's drawn I just dont know. Awfully mannish if you ask me. What happend to the world

[@nated1792]

@@cetialphav3214 perfectly said

[@Allison_Troy]

I preferred the original mini-comics to the Filmation series. The same for She-Ra's early mini-comics -- both the original origin and Journey to Mizar. The original Gold Wizardress was always cooler to me than Light Hope.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh many do!

[@Jake_E57]

No, I never wondered because it was pretty clear from the included mini comics and the packaging that the two halves of the Power Sword go together and make a key to open Castle Grayskull.

[@spectorcreative1872]

For big fans yes, but from what I have learned a lot from the comments is how many casual fans there really are

[@Jeffs008]

This gets a like for the "Ector cooler" line alone. Haha 🤣

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well I appreciate that

[@kaijupredator4063]

Young Loki is seen drinking one in the LOKI series.

[@Actionfiguresarefun]

Thank you, I hope others can put aside the changes and just enjoy a new MOTU show for what it is.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Here is hoping!

[@Actionfiguresarefun]

@@spectorcreative1872 wasn’t part of the lore about He-Man’s power sword that it could only be touched by He-Man, and that it would cause tremendous pain to anyone else that tried to touch it.

[@rolandkatsuragi]

The reason the changes in the Netflix adaptation have garnered so much "controversy" is because it's believed certain characters are being made ostensibly into tokens to push some sort of narrative.

[@spectorcreative1872]

OH yes, some changes are terrible ideas

[@williamzebub3252]

Nevermind that several movies over the last few years, in addition to a lot of what Marvel and DC are pushing, are proving that whole "get woke, go broke" thing. It certainly seems like it's a vocal extreme minority pushing for inclusiveness and representation. And that minority rarely actually follows through to consume the product they're asking for.

[@thecthuloser876]

​@@williamzebub3252 I feel trying to bring the "get woke, go broke" argument in comic books is sort of a weird take, considering comic books have always sort of been "woke". And while both modern Marvel and DC put out some stinkers, some of the stuff that people complain about makes sense in context. That weird "I Am Not Starfire" thing? It's not designed for mainstream comic book fans, but the people that bought DC's Young Adult graphic novels, like the one with Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle dating in high school, or with the teenage Victor and Nora. Which apparently sell, since DC makes them... And DC is pretty quick to drop things that don't sell.

[@williamzebub3252]

@@thecthuloser876 They've been left of moderate for a while, sure. But Marvel flat out said years ago that the diverse books weren't selling and the signs were pointing to the fans wanting the classic versions of the characters back, (ie, the white guys). And now we're getting such wonders as the "woke" New Warriors debacle that got such bad feedback that the book was quietly swept under the rug and never even printed. Or the Red Skull quoting Jordan Peterson. And I haven't heard anything about the Hellfire Gala since it started, so I don't know where that went. I Am Not Starfire and You Brought Me the Ocean are definitely catered to a very particular audience, but they're also so far out of mainstream DC that one would think they're stand alone stories that won't do much to get readers to pick up other titles. Though it's not all bad, because imho, the Harley Quinn animated series is brilliant. But the show has always known what it was, and never tried to say otherwise. Compared to the silliness online with the new MotU show and Kevin Smith's conflicting statements about what the show is about. Now I could be wrong, but it sounds like the new show would be like if CW came out with a new show called Legends of the Dark Knight, and used Batman heavily in the promotional material, but the show is actually about Barbara Gordon realizing she's been a lesbian all along, and bulking up to look like Rhea Ripley to fight crime while she tries to figure out what happened to Bruce.

[@CoryTheRaven]

@@thecthuloser876 there's a difference between "woke" and "liberal." An example I like to use is X-Men... When I was collecting X-Men in the 1990's, it was a very organically liberal, multicultural concept. The entire book was about the struggle of mutants for acceptance in a world that hates them, with a globally diverse cast where the introduction of new characters was an ongoing part of the lore. That was a world away from now, where comics are pushing inorganic messaging through a very narrow range of tropes, mainly through race and gender-swapping characters, pinkwashing, deeply unlikable Mary Sues, and villainizing of whole demographic groups. Storm being a co-leader of the X-Men is a very different thing from She-Thor clubbing a token misogynist villain with her hamfists or the X-Men being an allegory for minorities from Iceman being turned gay to fill quota.

[@opinian1068]

I don't think anyone is really bugged by changes like weapons, locations, or character alliances. What upsets people is seeing grifters like Kevin Smith and Ted Biaselli hijacking these IP's and turning them into nihilistic deconstructions. It happened with Star Wars and its going to happen with this.

[@hamletstragedy8988]

At this point, it's hard to believe these creators don't know they're "kicking in the sand castle" instead of playing coopeatively on the same beach. At least filmation admitted they wanted to make He-Man less violent to spare the kiddies.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well we will all know on Friday!

[@etherspin]

If don't get why people have so much problem with Smith.

[@CoryTheRaven]

@@etherspin I actually liked Smith's early work... I hate the whole Nerd Crew "geek culture" marketing shill bullshit, but Smith going that route was a matter of indifference to me. Like, whatever, dude has to make a buck. But what I find inexcusable is him outright lying and gaslighting about this show. If he just said that, yeah, they're doing something wild and different, then fine. But no, and that was wholly unnecessary. The fact that he outright lied and the narrative is STILL "omg, those whiny misogynist neckbeard losers" is the end for me.

[@jasoncarpenter5974]

Thanks for this video Scott. I love when you get these deep dives on the lore and changes. My he-man hey day was 82-85 and the mini comics were my favorite version. I liked Filmation but they changed a lot and it irked a 9 year old me. I enjoyed it but the DC stuff was so danged good in comparison.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Always welcome topic suggestions too!

[@Phantasia_Workshop]

All prior changes were done for reasons pertaining to: logistics, manufacturing the toys, streamlining the story, etc, and even through error. The changes being made now are deliberate and for socio-political reasons. There's a big difference.

[@MungkaeX]

What about the changes for 200X?

[@Phantasia_Workshop]

@@MungkaeX Streamlining and expanding the story

[@spectorcreative1872]

Great point

[@MungkaeX]

@@Phantasia_Workshop since we have next to nothing to base things on for Revelations; who’s to say that’s not the case here as well?

[@Phantasia_Workshop]

@@MungkaeX Good point, we'll have to wait and see. But a lot of the early info so far is questionable

[@jacobturnerart]

I had the Axe-weilding He-Man. I also used the axe with Optimus Prime!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Nice!

[@ZeroAnalogy]

I hear the combined phrases in my head - "I have the Power!" to "Transform and roll out!" Optimus did use an energon axe.

[@jacobturnerart]

@@ZeroAnalogy I never got a morning star for Megatron :(

[@maverick7291]

@@jacobturnerart as a kid I put a small hand made crown on a pile of burnt wood ash and pretended it was star scream in the movie.

[@zachfoster1847]

This is my preferred origin for He-Man. To be fair, when I was three, I was given these toys secondhand with no idea about the story and still loved playing with them and created my own stories. :)

[@spectorcreative1872]

So glad you enjoyed! Feel free to share with others, it helps the channel a ton

[@garyballard4657]

I read/see the same argument in everything from comics to movies...my thing is if it's not for me I leave it alone & stick to what I like in this case my generations MOTU I have the complete series on DVD the mini-comics collection which is my favorite version of MOTU if I want to collect I have the original line the classics & origins. What I'm saying is I have no reason to dislike or criticize the Netflix show heck I haven't even seen it yet...could be good. The new show could be someones first MOTU experience & might get the same joy of discovery I had in the early 80s when I peeled back the bubble on that brand new Skeletor figure.

[@spectorcreative1872]

OH there is nothing like that first peel back smell!

[@TitularHeroine]

Frikkin' thank you!! A reasonable assessment and comment. 🙏

[@buckspearman3013]

I was 6 in 1982 and those original mini comics were my "bed time" stories read to me by my mother. Needless to say I was slightly confused when the cartoon dropped a year later but no one cared. We loved it all anyway and just went with it.

[@Fenrir72]

Btw SC, even those head shrinks mentioned that the reason we cling to nostalgia is something like having some stability, security for our psyches during our times of instability and strife. As for the brand's conceptual changes, it is applicable to all brands during its birthing process. In Transformers for instance, it was Soundwave who was supposed to be the leader and Megatron the goon......so there always will be change prior to a product's roll out. Now once the mythos have been established, doing such changes is like telling "Benjamin Franklin buh bye!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Great points. The stability is a very important factor.

[@adamn.4615]

Your video from last year explaining why Skeletor came with half of the sword was actually the first video I ever saw on your channel. I have since enjoyed learning some of the pre-Filmation concepts for MOTU! I currently display my Origins He-Man holding the axe and keep the attached swords in his back harness.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well I am so glad you continue to enjoy the videos! Any suggestions for topics is most welcome!

[@adamn.4615]

@@spectorcreative1872 still waiting on an in-depth discussion on the stone in She-Ra's sword. ;-)

[@djtitan]

This is amazing. Great video, awesome timing. You are a gift for MOTU.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well thank you! I appreciate the kind words. Suggestions for topics always welcomed!

[@PortableXombie]

Why did He-man use an axe? Why wouldn't you use an axe is a better question!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Now that is the best reason ever!

[@hamletstragedy8988]

I had a comic book as a kid where He-Man was on a mission and Zodac shows up and decides to give him some cosmic version of a standardized test. He-Man responded by taking his axe and attempting to "halve" Zodac on his chair. Zodac cheated and teleported.

[@godphoenix66x]

The new show is going to bomb. People nowadays don't want to be lectured, they want to be entertained. You can't compare the changes made in the cartoon from the mini comics to the nonsense they want to do in this new show. The changes in the new show are agenda driven. Nobody is going to stand for that, especially if they are old enough to remember the original line.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I do agree. No one wants to be lectured by entertainment

[@Getwright-]

Hahaha!! the original cartoon literally had a lecture at the end of every episode. A literal morality lecture.

[@opinian1068]

@@Getwright- the PSA's? Yeah....those were about things like not doing drugs, staying out of danger, and being kind. They were unilaterally accepted as good messages....for ten year olds. That's not what this guy is talking about. If anyone thinks this series isn't going to be shaped by the cultural climate of the last year, they're kidding themselves.

[@blackphoenix77]

I think about MOTU: Revelation in the same way that I do Netflix She-Ra; it is its own separate thing set in a different continuity from the original cartoon. So I refuse to get upset about the changes like other people are.

[@spectorcreative1872]

OH completely! See tomorrow's MOTU Multiverse video

[@phillipcoonce4481]

Awesome point brother 👏 I look forward to seeing the new show. Partially because I'm a big fan, partially to calm everyone down who's freaking out.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I just love that we are getting new stuff

[@phillipcoonce4481]

@@spectorcreative1872 Me too, brother.

[@Sklabah]

I love this. Your enthusiasm is infectious, not only for one aspect of the brand, but for the whole. I like "toys as iconography", where there are lots of different takes on the same property. Its why I'm not thrown by possible changes in media - I can take what I like, and leave the rest. I understand people have preferences and are passionate about them, but I like seeing different takes, and think it just adds more fuel to the fun.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I am thrilled you are are enjoying! Topic suggestions always welcome

[@XArctracerX]

A lot of changes some good some bad, but always making changes will eventually get the series and all with changes to be the best possible so I do like these changes.. good video by the way Spector

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yup. Not all change is good, But it does happen

[@Boltgunmetal94]

Excellent video, good way of putting new changes in perspective for fans. I always say if you don't like a edition of a product, just wait a couple years they will try again. Example being Star Wars, for those that do not like the sequels, just wait for the next season of mandolorian.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Especially now a days!

[@j316finewoodworking6]

My biggest gripe on the "New" series coming up is the fact the 200x series is ignored all together. I just wished they finished that line. 🤷‍♂️

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah I would have loved if this was a follow up!

[@alexisjankowski3281]

@REFORMATTED 2086 They ended up fine, didn’t they?

[@peppermintspacecapsule9898]

I'm very interested in "Sun-Tan Stratos"! Back in the 1980s, I saw a photograph in a UK home-shopping catalogue of some MOTU toys, including a tan coloured Stratos. I now realise that the photographed figures *must* have been pre-production prototypes. I also realise that I should have kept the picture, as without it, I haven't got any proof that I ever saw the thing! D'oh! 😆

[@LewisChristisonVids]

They should make Sun-Tan Stratos evil and LOP cute Mer-Man good!

[@spectorcreative1872]

A Classics figure was made of him in a 3pack for Power Con!

[@peppermintspacecapsule9898]

@@spectorcreative1872 - I'm afraid I missed out on that one, but I did manage to pick up the ReAction version. He's one of my favourites, and he also exonerates my childhood memory!

[@lucasbachmann]

I once stumbled on a super rare toy I had in a 1977 catalog on ebay that I wasn't even looking for. Just saying if it was a big enough company the catalogs may be out there. Though I personally don't recall a Stratos protype that doesn't mean much. I recall the Teela prototype was noticeably different in the Sears catalog circa 1981 or 82 I suppose.

[@Hhansome]

When they turned He Man and Skeletor into space warriors, that change was soundly rejected. Even the movie was a bit of a disappointment because of all the changes they made to the characters.

[@manjiimortal]

On the other hand the early 2000's relaunch stuck close to the original visuals and ideas, but it was also a commercial failure, which kept the whole brand away from stores for over a decade. It's not as simple as "They changed it, so it sucks!!".

[@Trikeboy2]

Sometimes reboots are bad, sometimes they are good. Sometimes they are better than the originals. For example, the new Duck Tales, Transformers Prime, Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated, TMNT 2012 (It started bad but by the end was amazing), and She Ra and the Princesses of Power. I know some people are going to disagree with me on that last one, but I enjoyed it so much more than the original show.

[@krisblaise8580]

@@Trikeboy2 She-Ra is pretty much what got me into MOTU as a whole, so I agree.

[@supernerd5781]

@@krisblaise8580 Welcome! I hope you enjoy Adam as much as his sister, don't worry sometimes he wears a shirt and pants.

[@richardromanyshyn608]

@@manjiimortal Still defending myself in last comment section about my opinions on that, still going to be a fan, going to continue collecting original toys and I grab something Origins here and there. I have to compete with my son to keep any of it but he doesn't like the look of the "Asian inspired" stuff any more than I do.

[@dariusq8894]

The OG toyline canon is actually how I remember the series best. These were the comics which came with the toys and that was around the time when I was first learning to read. I really wish Netflix had made their show to emulate this canon instead of deconstructing the Filmation series.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Alas they could not do that legally

[@mariogreen2213]

The changes you’re talking about that were made in the beginning were “growing pains” changes to make the characters and story BETTER for the mythos of He-Man. These changes felt natural, Which is why people fell in love with the brand. The NEW CHANGES that are being made are unnecessary and feels unnatural. It does nothing to further the story of He-Man. These types of new changes are more for political reasons and goes deeper than just providing fun. Anyone with common sense can see that it’s not natural for the art of story

[@Trikeboy2]

Well, King Grayskull was never seen in the Filmation show, so he isn't changed for that continuity. What other changes don't you like?

[@cptspeedy509]

For those of us that preferred He-Man as his own identity as presented in the original mini comics, Prince Adam and the filmation cartoon was not a change for the better.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yes and changes at different stages of a properties development can make all the difference in how good or needed they are

[@oshontheexperience6440]

I posted a similar response. I don't think genuine fans are change adverse. 200X took it share of liberties with the mythology but it felt like MOTU.

[@mariogreen2213]

@T 2017 I completely agree. I love Spector’s channel and I love He-Man but I believe he’s half wrong in his assessment regarding the changes made. Anyone with common sense knows what’s really going on.

[@quatreraberbawinner2628]

Change is a universal constant, you cannot stop it, for good or bad

[@spectorcreative1872]

Unless your Thanos

[@gerainthorton8980]

The original concept vs Filmation is a bit like GI Joe where you have the cartoon vs the comics which depict the characters differently. I get there were a lot of changes in the original incarnation of MOTU. He-Man being a barbarian, Zodac Evil before being neutral etc, the two halves of the sword etc. That was while the brand was being formed which is a bit different to using something already established. The 2002 series changed Zodac and introduced King Grayskull and other characters like Dekker. Whether the Revelations series changes work is yet to be seen.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I asm on a wait and see, but some changes are not a good idea

[@bobastu]

Thank you. Good explanation. Comic and cartoon worlds frequently don't mesh well together. The cartoon saw, for the most part, consistency. It's like Hawk and Duke in the GI Joe toy line, the comic and the cartoon. Hawk was released first, blonde hair, same head-sculpt as Flash, featured in the first comic. Duke did not turn up until 23 with Roadblock. In the cartoon we never saw Hawk as a blonde. Scarlett was interested in Duke not Snake Eyes. Fans broadly accept "comic/cartoon differing universe" syndrome. Fans have trouble accepting change that goes against established character traits. In essence, changing a character to fit an unrealistic vision of who the character should become. For example: Teela is an adult. She finds out she has not been included in a secret, that not even the King knew. Her first response is not loyalty to the king, nor is it loyalty to the kingdom. Her first response is anger and selfishness. She throws a temper tantrum, and leaves her sense of loyalty to king and kingdom behind. Because it's all about Teela going all teen angst. It goes against her character model as presented in years of the cartoon. Loyalty to king and kingdom. You speak of evolutionary changes in the story as the writers discover the characters. This is not an evolutionary change for Teela, this is a knee jerk reaction to being the only one not in on the secret, like she is 12.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Exactly

[@majingunplero8472]

Hi Spector!! As always awesome vid. Now changes during initial development are OK since they are considered growing pains. But once you established the history is really hard to change characteristics, traits and attributes for characters specially if they are Main Characters. an example of an horrible change is what was done to Luke Skywalker on the Last Jedi. Yes we are not the owners of such franchise but we are certainly the gate keepers since we dictate if the line survive or not. Also.. Movie Bob? Really?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Agreed. When the changes are made in a properties development are as important as what

[@citadelli]

Good perspective. I’m giving the new one a chance and letting news go out the other ear. I remember as a kid. I liked background characters you never really knew about. Starwars was a perfect example of this. All the characters you might from the cantina could become different villains etc in your imagination. Possibly why Boba was such a popular figure. He looked cool and left the imagination up to u to create stories around him because we didn’t know much about him. Original 12” GIJoe Adventure Team was the same way for me. Played the heck out of them on our childhood farm. Big old Tonka trucks and trackers too.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I am definitely on a wait and see with this...

[@thochaos13]

I don't think I ever got the chance to combine my He-man and Skeletor swords because I lost my original grey sword pretty early on. I'm convinced it's inside a nightlight fitting in my grandmother's old house though, so now I just need a plan to get back inside so I can grab it!

[@TitularHeroine]

Get your best pal to sneak along behind you voicing the Mission Impossible theme. "Dun dun dun DUN dun...." Loudly.

[@spectorcreative1872]

You will need all your ninja skills, which I know you have!

[@maverick7291]

I'm still waiting for my space balls sequel: the search for more money! Such a great movie comedy!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Have you seen this:kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqnVopmAhpl2ias

[@maverick7291]

@@spectorcreative1872 I have now!

[@MrHouse406]

Also in the original castle grayskull art @5:49 has Beastman kinda being next to he-man & in front of man at arms holding a sword instead of a whip fighting alongside the heroic warriors which I've seen this somewhere before & it was explained that it was a different idea for Beastman. Skeletor's backstory differ from the mini comics than the filmation version which the mini comics in it's self was different concepts stories of the characters.

[@spectorcreative1872]

OH yes. I have a MOTU multiverse video coming later this week

[@MrHouse406]

Yeah that would've been cool.

[@MrHouse406]

I'm looking forward.

[@BrianGeers]

Was the “pivot” away from marketing different harnesses/outfits for He-Man based on the fact that the competing figure lines of the time (Star Wars, GI Joe, etc.) didn’t really do “costume packs” for their figures or were there other reasons at play too?

[@oansun]

Filmation just had a different pitch and that became the new direction

[@spectorcreative1872]

It really was just Filmation having a "better" or more popular idea

[@leebirdwell7783]

Why make costume packs when you can sell different figures (Battle Armor, Thunder-Punch, etc.)?

[@agent3724]

Thanks for the video ! i do agree with you Motu always been about change, but this change is unacceptable.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I am not disagreeing with you at all!

[@The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth]

@Spector Creative That original green lady character is called "The Sorceress", not "The Goddess." It was originally Teela who was known as a goddess, but then that aspect of her was moved, and placed with the Sorceress, whose skin was then turned to a human colour. Then she was called "The Goddess" and Teela was said to be a clone of her in the minicomics. This was so the Teela figure could work as both Teela and the Goddess (Who used to be called The Sorceress when she was green.) Back in the original "Lords of Power" days, there were plans for 2 figures. 1) Tee-La (Warrior goddess) and 2) Sorceress (Cobra).

[@spectorcreative1872]

See today's multiverse episode, it might help clarify!

[@BrotherApexx]

I loved the mini-comics so much that I really couldn't get into the cartoon, but I was thirteen or fourteen when MOTU dropped so I wasn't the target audience. No offense to your Filmation version fans.

[@LewisChristisonVids]

I guess those must have been some of the last toys you got as a child then.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I don't think anyone can be offended for others liking He-Man

[@jeremymullens7167]

Yeah the mini comics are a darker edgier take on He-Man without actually being cringy sort of ‘edgy’ I think there’s room for both though. Just a bummer filmation overshadows

[@oloanhasiholan5363]

I remember read one of the early mini comic The Magic Stealer and I was astonished by the way the story went. Also the art was good, drawn by Mark Texeira. It is still the gold standart for any MOTU story for me. For me the only true MOTU universe is the early mini comics pre prince Adam.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh yes the early stuff was quite incredible

[@bryanabbott6169]

When I got the He-Man action figure, I preferred the ax over the sword. My cousin, on the other hand favoured the sword. This was before the cartoon was released, so there wasn't any bias from watching it. As much as Xena: Warrior Princess can brag about her prowess, Teela: Warrior Godess was not only the original and but she outranks Xena at the same time 😀

[@WiiMan25]

I know back in the day there were Golden Books that didn't mention Prince Adam or show He-Man transforming, but still had him and Skeletor using the halves of the Power Sword as their main weapons. Maybe your cousin was a fan of those?

[@bryanabbott6169]

@@WiiMan25 He was younger by five years, so that would've been something he would have read at the time.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Hey as long as he is ready for combat...

[@Mahado]

If Skeletor cloned Tee-la in the mini-comic, I guess that would make Skeletor Teela's dad, in that version. That would’ve a great story to adapted for the animated series, with Sorceress being the mother and all.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah kinda creepy

[@morganlefay195]

That's one of my favourite storylines... but I suppose it wasn't safe enough for a children's show.

[@berwinenzemann3468]

I have to disagree. To me the major factor for the adult MotU fan is escapism. When you grow up life gets more and more serious and more and more complicated. But no matter how much the adversities of life kick you in the face you can always imagine somewhere out in space there's this planet where a brave hero with a magical sword together with his loyal companions defends a mystical castle steeped in legend against an evil miscreant and his henchmen. On Eternia everything is still as simple as it was when we were kids and it always will be. That's the appeal.

[@oansun]

the appeal is "having the power." That's pretty clear, the lore created for a show is what it is but the appeal of MOTU was always a pretty loose basis to engage in your own play. Every person that is really into MOTU has their own idea of what things are, that's the true appeal. There is room for plenty of complication, the show has it more than I think your memory is allowing to come forth. Watch the series. Also read the mini comics, the Sunday strips, the golden books, the UK comics, the DC comics, the new DC series...theres a lot involved beyond a passing memory of a show you watched and had some toys of and then the pandemic allowed you to get back into a toy hobby a little. I've been with MOTU forever and never left it, its ok if you did but there is always a complication to it

[@berwinenzemann3468]

@@oansun That was the appeal to kids back in the 80ies. I'm talking about the adult fan in 2021.

[@MungkaeX]

@@berwinenzemann3468 I’ll have to disagree. As an adult fan a large part of my draw of the show IS what by today’s language would be called “woke”. It wasn’t in the 80’s because talking political heads hadn’t created the word or made such positive ideals a political thing. But if you watch the show, the ideals that He-Man embodied were always “woke”.

[@spectorcreative1872]

It is a very rocky bridge and any changes made this late in a brand need to be done for a very good reason

[@berwinenzemann3468]

@@MungkaeX So you were drawn to MotU because of the short morals at the end of each episode? I was drawn to MotU because it was a fascinating world of fantasy and adventure and the toys were just awesome and stimulated my imagination. It was a simple story of good versus evil. Just black and white in that sense. But that's okay to me. MotU doesn't have to refelct real life. I rather want it to take me away from real life.

[@Sydew]

Thank you for this video!!! I believe this brings balance to the reactions I've been seeing fans have all over the internet. I still don't know if I will like the series yet, I have to actually watch it to know, the trailers don't tell me ANYTHING about the story yet, as proven by the Dark Hose Comic. My theory is the one of the subplots of the story will be about Teela learning her destiny as the successor to the Sorceress and she rebelling against it (plus angry at Adam for not telling her he was He-man) if I'm right I am interested to see that story, provided it doesn't end up being predictable.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Not all changes are good. And for the new show I am waiting to see

[@Sydew]

@@spectorcreative1872 I totally agree

[@alexisjankowski3281]

I remember those dual swords from my brother’s toys. That made Skeletor’s dual swords in the 200X version so awesome.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Truly they were!

[@stranger59]

I'm glad they changed stuff, too many people (especially others on KZbin) are riling up people to hate the show for being "political", as if paying off Teela's SUPER IMPORTANT backstory is a bad idea. We're getting first animated appearances of many characters who were only toys, and some that were only in the comics. It's a spiritual sequel to Filmation because SOMEONE owns the rights to the Filmation stuff and it can't be 1 for 1, and different versions of characters means different versions to turn into toys (Seriously, if anyone for 'some reason' dislikes Black King Grayskull, they'll probably use the same mold to make the traditional white one, if a new toy comes out at all)! This is the show being made to appease us old fans, so we don't obsess over and bully children for liking the cgi show coming out later... but this way of hating a show before it even airs is why we get less and less stuff aimed at old fans. Kids don't care if nearly 40 years of very loose lore is exactly canon to whatever, they might just appreciate He-Man riding around on Battle Cat and giving Skeletor a hard time.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well as long as their is GOOD content coming out I am happy. But the judgement has not been made yet

[@OzzieAstaroth]

I think the problem here stems from that fact that we were told it was continuation of the Filmation series, and it would build off that lore. So fans were expecting things to be like the original show, but with better animation and different voice talents. When more things start to change, people get nervous. Growing up I always was confused why the comics didn't match the cartoon, as I much preferred the cartoon, but its kind of a multiverse now isn't it? The way I see it is that this is one "possible" continuation from the Filmation cartoon. The other being She-Ra POP of course. I don't think She-Ra is in Revelation or even mentioned, but yeah, that was the continuation of the original series. This is just an alternate version of what could be. All in all I just say, lets wait and see. I'm not going to judge Revelation until it comes out and I have seen it.

[@spectorcreative1872]

oh that I agree with. I thought until this week it was a direct sequel

[@johnmorey720]

There have been so many different iterations of MOTU over the years that it lends itself more than most fandoms to headcanon and individual "custom" ideas for what the franchise is. This is one of the reasons why there seems to be so much friction - anything you do will disagree with somebody's personal idea of what MOTU is, and we are all grumpy and middle-aged 9i turned 40 today, wooo), so we're prone to argue. but at least we're not as vicious as the Steven Universe fans!

[@spectorcreative1872]

The MOTU Multiverse video is coming...

[@michaelcase8231]

Green Skin? Snake headdress? Was the original Warrior Goddess a Snake man worshipper? What I mind blowing story opportunity that was lost.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I know right!

[@iwanttoseemrshow]

Yes, change happens...But the difference THIS time is that Kevin Smith told us this was going to be an extension of the original series and I'm betting that it's not

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yes and the lie was terrible

[@WarStarterTKOA]

He-man started off with the Axe 🪓 they gave him a sword afterwards, and Teela was green because she was turned into a snake 🐍 from king hiss. Let's just be honest here, if they said this is a Teela spin off, nobody would give a shit. Its only a thing because of He-Man, we want to see He-Man, not Teela being more powerful than the most powerful man in the universe through magically powers of Greyskull. Giving Teela that kind of power without having to transform through magic makes He-Man look weak as fuck, how can He-Man be a threat if someone as simple is Teela as strong as or stronger than He-Man??? It's not what I wanna see, it's not what you wanna see either. I was disappointed with SheRa, not only is she gay, becausebeing gay can't be enough, but Jesus Christ man, now she's in love with and fucking a cat alien??? At least in the original Cattra needed the magically Tiara to transform into Cattra, here she's just a damn cat person, too me that's freaking disgusting. Having human characters fuck animal characters, that shit is not diversity, it's just fucking disgusting weather it's for adults or children as their audience, it's not metaphor either to racism, it's just a whole other world of fucked up.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Everything is a metaphor for racism. Especially cup o noodles and the wombat.

[@jorgmintel3060]

MOTU has a lot of characters. And every character is someone’s favorite toy. And everyone wants to see his favorite toy shine on the tv screen! It’s a pretty bold claim if you state “it’s not what you wanna see either”. 🙄 And, by the way, you seem to confuse He-Man and Prince Adam. Prince Adam was always shown to be weaker than Teela in the 80s show (despite how he looked). ☝️🤓

[@WarStarterTKOA]

@@jorgmintel3060 lol, dude watch the series, Teela was fighting He-Man not Prince Adam. I know the difference between them.

[@WarStarterTKOA]

@@spectorcreative1872 😂😂😂😂

[@WarStarterTKOA]

@@jorgmintel3060 He-Man eyes were red.

[@jeffwolcott7815]

Speaking of change, what is your opinion about all this talk about Teela taking over as the main character, or do you think we should wait for the show comes out first. I think the later.

[@spectorcreative1872]

That is not a change that I think is a good idea.

[@edwardjohnson6744]

I wonder if he will go into the cavern of power to regain his He-Manliness since Skele-God has the power sword? That would be epic!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Now that would be a throw back!

[@cudawon08]

thank you, this shows that the brand has to grow so that can bring more people to MOTU, good job

[@spectorcreative1872]

As long as their is more MOTU I am happy

[@stranger59]

Honestly, since this is bringing in toy only characters and comic only characters with elements of the 200X line, it has a real good chance of making adults who only vaguely know of He-Man and teens curious about it into new, lifelong fans. But the fans supporting nothing but clickbait hate videos will still complain that they don't get more love when those same clickbait hate videos drive those possible new fans to assume the whole fanbase is hard right psychopaths, yelling and fuming about haircuts or women.

[@cudawon08]

@@stranger59 i mean,,, its not the he-man woman-haters club or is it?

[@ulfberht4431]

The difference between the changes done by Mattel pre-Filmmation and what was done by Kevin Smith is simple. Mattel’s changes were done for a brand/ marketing standpoint that would help their brand survive. Kevin Smith’s changes were done solely because he wanted to be the next Ryan Johnson (brutally killing off beloved characters and what not to replace new one) and plus he wanted to address and issue that was never there to begin with in regards to Teela’s involvement in the original show. Not to mention that Kevin Smith also lied to save his own skin from scrutiny after the leaks were put out and his disdain for the brand, even lying about when he watched the show! Bottomline, changes are only ok if it makes sense from a marketing, technical and story standpoint, not to save face or out of spite for the brand!

[@richardromanyshyn608]

Teela was a little confusing as a kid but I thought the snake armor was cool on her as that's Teelas Armor. I would go over that mini comic and wonder why she was green and called something different. My Canon as a kid with no cable came from the mini comics, and reading the packaging. Lots of imagination went in. If a picture is worth a thousand words, the beautiful box art was worth a million to kid me. I don't feel discluded with the new stuff, a little lost in the newer characters but that is fine. Glad it's still going and hoping it's in good hands

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh she sure was!

[@malusignatius]

The truth is, this happens with about every toy-related franchise, for two reasons: 1: Because kids are and will always be a bigger market than collectors. 2: Society and story telling both evolve, and what worked back in 1982 won't work 40 years later. I really wish more people understood this.

[@jeremymullens7167]

Except there is a separate kids show and this was intended to appeal to adult fans. If you swap out Teela for He-Man in the plot, it’s basically the play story for the OG mini comic which is kinda cool but a missed opportunity. I think the biggest issue is Kevin Smith saw this as a sequel instead of a reboot and he intended to make an empires strikes back type show.

[@malusignatius]

@@jeremymullens7167 I don't really see either as an issue.

[@malusignatius]

Also note, we have a mid-season cliffhanger here, not the end of the story,

[@spectorcreative1872]

I think the high emotional connection most collectors have to product is what keeps them from accepting #1

[@malusignatius]

@@spectorcreative1872 I mean, you're not wrong, but it's still an entitled attitude to have. At the end of the day, neither Mattel or the production team behind the new Masters of the Universe owe them, and expecting to get exactly what they want is only going to lead to disappointment.

[@1973Pippster]

This change they can keep. It's time for completely new IP's now. The biggest change now is the audience.

[@spectorcreative1872]

It always is

[@FelixDeluna]

I’ve wanted to see him use the axe and the shield FOREVER.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Me too. Hell of an axe

[@yellowgut]

You’re right but…..there is much more at work here in this new series than some innocent changes for the fun of storytelling, this series is being made to push a particular set of principals and politics, and deep down everyone knows it.

[@Trikeboy2]

or, you are so scared of "principals and politics" you attach it to things that you really shouldn't.

[@yellowgut]

@serick73 so you’re agreeing with me, what drew you to he-Mano the first place if you disagreed so strongly with the shows principles?

[@yellowgut]

@serick73 you don’t strike me as much of a He-fan, do you just haunt comment sections seeking to be outraged, or offended? My original comment was quite innocuous. Are You sure you’re in the right place?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yes, if you make TOO many changes if does not even feel like the property any more

[@junrosamura645]

@serick73 What child wants to see a cartoon about lesbians? I've got nothing against it but is it even necessary for a fantasy based show? If it was live action, maybe, but animated?

[@KYPT0KNIGHT]

Lots of characters go through lots of change before they settle into the form that becomes their most popular. At that point certain aspects of the character or world lock into place. People then lock onto and associate how that setup is. Others will add to and make slight variations to those worlds and stories but normally it isn't a big change that shifts ot away from what the fan base would accept. Almost every time they make big world shifts in the property they almost always have to change ot back. So saying it's always been a brand of change is almost misleading because every property especially in comics goes through these shifts until it reaches its form. Batman... Superman... for example all changed a lot until they reached their most well known form. Just saying

[@spectorcreative1872]

And Batman should be like 120 at this point

[@cudawon08]

I like to disagree, theres the Batman 70s live action, the zaniness that didnt stay but brought in a new gen of kids. Also batman used a gun when 1st started. We had the dark knight then bat nipples. If u dont like (I'm guessing the PC) then it's not intended for u

[@KYPT0KNIGHT]

@@spectorcreative1872 he-man should be 40 lol

[@eliandervalderen5849]

I think I actually remember reading the sword of Skeletor.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Those were great books with beautiful covers

[@PiccsChannel]

I don't think most people are worried about Netflix changing the brand so much as they are worried about Kevin Smith giving the brand the woke treatment to get points with his Hollywood friends at the expense of the brand becoming hostile to the original audience. If its good no one will complain, but we've seen so many things from our childhoods exploited at this point its hard to not be cynical anymore.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I can't disagree

[@chipjohnson9283]

I do have a question about changing King Grayskull to a black character; in regards to him being Adam's/He-man's great ancestor, how does the lineage work if the two characters are from different races?

[@spectorcreative1872]

It means Adam is part black

[@morganlefay195]

If you had a black ancestor that far removed, it won't show in your appearance.

[@chipjohnson9283]

@@morganlefay195 thanks! Was a bit confused, but you are right. After 1,000 years or so, makes sense!

[@etherspin]

@@morganlefay195 Correct but I think people would hate that.. not me .. but an annoying set would say it's somehow appropriation that a 1 thousandth black guy has blonde hair

[@edmendo]

Is there Lore about WUN-DAR? Can you talk about it, please? I am diying to open my Classics Figure XD

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well in MOTUC he is one of the He-Men who protects the sword of He between King Grayskull and Adam. See his figure bio card back for more

[@4666raptor]

changes between books mini comics and tv series is a very different thing. especially when first major successful changes were so early. i also started with mini comics and toys and found tv series confusing but for the time i read mini comics to tv show was nothing and i soon forgot the original stories as there was simply no more content i ever saw until the proper comics bringing them back. but the changes now are very different its not just about teela its about making prince adam a bit of an idiot and rarely getting any acknowledgement for anything in the first 5 episodes just teela. the whole thong was written for teela so far. your video about the changes is still full of talking and mostly about heman. count how many times his name comes up compared to teela in any motu video

[@spectorcreative1872]

I tend to think of Revelations as a spin off

[@4666raptor]

@@spectorcreative1872 me too. but so many media outlets are still naming it a sequel to the original

[@4666raptor]

@@spectorcreative1872 i prefer to think of it as an alternate reality

[@4666raptor]

@@spectorcreative1872 they just need to stop tying it to the original and say its a different eternia as different as the 200x was to the original and the mini comics and new adventures

[@andrewgrant2990]

What the property that is about a mild mannered prince that changes into a muscle bound warrior is all about CHANGE? Once again you bring cl logic to the table- thank you sir!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I do love some logic

[@nilus2k]

“The swords would come together” Thus you had to buy both characters :)

[@spectorcreative1872]

More toys to buy means more for the bottom line!

[@vansnakenstein5149]

If the original Teela figure was meant to be two different figures, I would expect that to have been mentioned at least once one packaging.

[@spectorcreative1872]

it is. Her name is "warrior goddess".

[@respektmyname15]

Evil Lyn was the "evil warrior goddess" and she wasn't two people. Even in the first mini comic Skeletor calls Teela the warrior goddess.

[@mickeyperdomo1324]

The biggest issue I've heard (that's been consistent across various groups I interact with) isn't Teela's hair, or King Grayskull being black, but the rumor that Teela WILL replace He-Man and become He-Man or He-Woman AND also become the sorceress. It's just a rumor, but the fact that the main focus and character of the recent trailer is NOT He-Man, but Teela, has lead many to believe that the rumors are true. If for argument's sake, that's what happens ... Wouldn't you agree that this change would be a bridge too far for fans? Considering that the target audience are those who grew up with He-Man in the 80's (Mostly boys now grown men) you can understand why there's a reluctance to accept this change. Again assuming the rumors are true. I personally hope that she's instrumental in bringing He-man back and that the second part (because only Part 1 is coming out on Friday) will be more He-Man focused.

[@MungkaeX]

Target audience or not, He-Man bridged across the gender divide and was integrated into the play pattern of young girls as well as young boys in the 80’s. That’s actually the reason why She-Ra was originally created in the first place to lean further into this seemingly untapped and previously ignored market.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I do agree. He-Man should be the main character no matter what

[@MungkaeX]

@serick73 is that rumor from the same source that said He-Man was going to come out of the closet as Straight leaving his long time love interest Bow?

[@mickeyperdomo1324]

@@MungkaeX no. I haven't heard that one.

[@Trikeboy2]

Here's the thing though, the trailer and comic seem to be setting up a story where Adam stops relying on He-Man, and steps up to be a hero. Adam is show fighting alongside Teela, and there is a shot of Adam surrounded with the He-Men of Legend.

[@ivane5110]

Exactly! Many of us (myself included) really dislike even slight change with our favorites, but how many of our favorites would never have even come into being if not for change? Sort of a double edged (power) sword, hehe (I blame that corny joke on tye influence if this channel, lol).

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well punned

[@avilleguy]

The '80s Teela figure could be considered just the Sorceress because her name is also Teela. (Her name wasn't Teela Na originally.)

[@spectorcreative1872]

Very much so

[@Novusod]

Constantly changing canon and characters muddies the waters and dilutes the brand making the whole thing an unapproachable mess to outsiders. It would be as if Superman was both born on Krypton and was also somehow born on Earth but got powers from Krypton. People would say "what???" Classics cleaned us the messy past by creating the "He-Men" concept. The Savage He-Man who walked out of a village became Oo-lar a predecessor to the real He-Man. The one true He-Man as you sometimes call him was Prince Adam.

[@spectorcreative1872]

And yes some changes are terrible

[@mmfstories]

Love the video but I don't think it's a retooling of a character that is the issue with some fans. There are people who are concerned with the type of changes that may happen in the new show. Honestly, I'm more concerned with the quality of the story. If the story is good, makes sense, and honors the core of the characters, I will be very happy with this new incarnation. As much as I love having a new show with the old characters, I would like to see them create a whole new hero in the MOTU universe that will benefit this generation of kids and how they watch their entertainment.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh very much so

[@shawnwilson7355]

I love your video

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well thank you! Topics always welcome

[@Shockwave-robb]

Off topic to the video but do you think Mattel may lose the motu license, or did they already lose it.

[@spectorcreative1872]

It is not that they will lose it, it is that they sold it.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmm0p2CvaNuJqM0

[@Shockwave-robb]

@@spectorcreative1872 so universal own the entertainment part of motu, and Mattel owns the toy part, and when 2023 come around universal will get it, but could Mattel re-buy it from universal.

[@SkullCowboy333]

So want this to be good but I am rather concerned the more I see. Change is fine but let it make sense please.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Keeping fingers crossed

[@maverick7291]

So are the goddess and sorceress two completely separate characters set as canon or is it still a grey area?

[@spectorcreative1872]

In Classics they are separate characters. In other cannons they are not. A video on this is coming later this week.

[@peterdanior4538]

So basically the original Filmation cartoon was a bait & switch. They promised an animated version of the toy line, but instead made their own version

[@spectorcreative1872]

I don’t know if filmation ever made that type of promise. Yes the show was different but they never promoted it as a direct translation of the toys

[@Fenris30]

While I love videos like this I can say from experience "It won't make any difference,' as Newt said in Aliens

[@spectorcreative1872]

It’s the only way to be sure

[@geechie-don7157]

My original He-Man doubled as a wrestler and would mix it up with Ric Flair, Nick Bockwinkle, etc.

[@spectorcreative1872]

It is not a shock that wrestler fans and He-Man fans overalap a lot!

[@elextrano7597]

Idea. Cave man He man (Cave-Ar if you will) is one of the desendans of king Grey skull way in the past (cave man he man is also an ancester of adam) after a cataclism and is chosen by the sword to stop Demo-Man and his demons. I have more ideas in my head after hearing you talk... You have an amazing imagination

[@spectorcreative1872]

Make it happen Mattel

[@elextrano7597]

@@spectorcreative1872 There are so many places you can draw inspiration, even the new she ra (That i did not like) had many good ideas (I like the new Horde kids, they were actualy interesting interesting characters)(I had the idea that Kyle "The clumpsy one" shuld be In secret the red Knight from the original She-Ra series) sorry if it sounds like fan fiction at this point

[@junrosamura645]

Great video about the changes of this line. As for the show, what is the point of bringing back He-Man when you change around the whole story? I would have rather them make a new series set far off in the future so they could have avoided all this hate from the fans. As an 80s kid, I want to see more "weak guy" becomes strong guy and saves the day vs strong guy becomes weak guy and needs the help of his diverse friends to save the day. Thank goodness, Japanese anime still delivers that out of date but fun to watch stories today.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah I think we all want to see that

[@focus4968]

First this guy gets in trouble for pointing out King Grayskull wasn't always black and now he shows a white Nick Fury.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Point taken

[@TitularHeroine]

Ha! 😂

[@white8crow]

Interesting. I always wanted Mer-man to BE a good guy. I understand change happens, but in my opinion, the new Netflix series will suck. I don't want a gay Teela who looks like a dude.

[@spectorcreative1872]

No one does.

[@shaolin1derpalm]

I dont NOT want it. I just dont care wither way.

[@tgonzalez1983]

Why was Evil lyn called “Evil warrior goddess”?

[@TheGreatDayne1983]

....cause she worked it?

[@morganlefay195]

Because she was made as an evil reverse of original Teela.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Because "Bitch" was already taken by Barbie

[@BrickSomething]

I’ve always been intrigued by the notion that the original Teela figure was supposed to be played with as two separate toys / characters. Was that ever explicitly told to kids and parents via packaging or in commercials, beyond the title under her name? Otherwise, it’s such a weird (and a little pathetic) stretch. Did any other figures in the line ever do anything similar? Seems more consistent if, like Adam and Cringer, you were supposed to have Teela hold up her snake staff and transform magically into snake armor. Anyhoo…wondering if Mattel ever actually tried to communicate this play pattern of a two-characters-in-one toy.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah really blows the mind

[@trailwomanrc]

IMO Filmation nailed it.

[@spectorcreative1872]

A reason it is a classic

[@edwardjohnson6744]

After all the teela changes I forgot all about Zodak

[@spectorcreative1872]

Still one of my favorites

[@justicierodelaliga]

I still resent your past comment regarding that nobody likes Martians. Really? What about Marvin and J´onn J ´onnz?

[@spectorcreative1872]

For every rule their is an exception. I"ll be over in Hellium if anyone needs me