Masters vs. Slaves | Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morality Explained

[@bi.johnathan]

Instead of ad reads, my channel is funded directly by people passionate about the Great Books. Help me keep making more episodes with a paid subscription: johnathanbi.com PS: Many in the comments have (rightly) pointed out that Nietzsche does not advocate for a simple return to the master morality of the Greco-Roman world. I never intended to frame his positive vision as a simple return, which is why I emphasized the undesirable aspects of master morality (e.g. the masters being brutish) and the positives which slave morality has brought about (inner life, high culture, etc.). But my own grasp of his positive proposal was hazy. So after re-reading parts of the book and consulting with one of the top Nietzsche scholars Brian Leiter (whose book formed the basis of my original interpretation) here’s my updated view: Instead of describing his project as: “What Nietzsche wants to elevate instead is what he calls master morality: inegalitarian, elitist, which he associates with the pagan world, the Greco-Roman world” … I should have said: “Nietzsche wants to make the creation of moralities structurally analogous to the old master morality possible and attractive.” Here’s the key distinction: Nietzsche is clearly not saying that we should resurrect Greco-Roman values as is but he wants to give higher men the license and impulse to establish new kinds of moralities that are structurally analogous to the old master morality and not the existing dominant slave morality. Such structural features include but are not limited to substantive positions (e.g. willingness to embrace suffering, inegalitarian view of humans) and meta positions (e.g. moral anti-realism, rejection of free will). Of course, there are many possible sets of moralities that can exist within these boundaries: both Napoleon and Beethoven are willing to embrace suffering and see difference among men but for different reasons and along different dimensions. In other words, Nietzsche’s project in the genealogy is more of a clearing of the ground so higher men can create their own (non-slavish) value systems. It’s more of a tearing down of slave morality than prescription of any determinate morality, which is reflected in the critical emphasis of the lecture. A meta-point: please keep in mind that I am not a scholar of any of the books I’ve covered (with perhaps the exception of Girard). I only spend 8 weeks with one of these books, read 4-5 of the top secondary works, interview a few of the leading scholars, and hire a junior professor as a tutor to help gut check my interpretations. This is far from the work required to give “the best” interpretation. As comparison, I’ve spent years reading all of Girard’s work over and over again, published in the leading journal, and wrote a book-length manuscript on mimetic theory. In these great books lecture, I am only giving “an” interpretation that I find coherent and does not deviate too far from a dominant interpretation in the field, in this case leiter's. But also keep in mind that (especially with people like Nietzsche) there is no real “consensus” even among scholars. Go read Leiter’s book and you will find a large section of polemics against the other dominant Nietzscheans: Kaufmann, Nehemas, etc. The moral of the story is that there is ultimately no replacement for reading these books yourself (in the original language, because translation is interpretation) which is what I hope my lectures and interviews will inspire you to do.

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I think your approach is excellent and succeeds in whetting the appetite. This is the best realistic outcome given that philosophy isn’t for everyone and even those disposed towards it have limited time; moreover no one can read (or understand) everything. The interested generalist seeks an intelligent, engaging guide and the introductions you provide are ideal. Thank you very much.

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For someone praising 'higher' men this seems like chinese imitation of western ideals. It looks so fake and inauthentic and ironically misses the point that western thinkers were commuincating. Even china tries to fake copy western philosophy now?

[@Anythingforfreedom]

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[@that1guyFred]

Tl;dr- this video and this comment show only the most surface level understanding of Nietzsche. Nietzsche despised academics and set many traps for them - you read him too literally and should spend some time reading the poetry in his published works. Nietzsche's philosophy is all just primer for his poetry I read every Nietzsche book over and over in between other readings, utilizing his works to transform my inner-life, befriend powerful persons at college, and start a business - so I get why an entrepreneur would be drawn to his works (aside from the fact that his name guarantees views on your content) One takeaway that has gone WAY over Leiter's and most scholars' heads is the central esoteric aspect of his work. Lampert is the go-to guy for this. Nietzsche wrote his works so academics like Leiter have no chance to understand him - in short, if you do not dream, you do not understand Nietzsche. The painter De Chirico's metamorphoses series would be a better guide too Nietzsche than most academics. Genealogy as it would be read by your average initiate (a brother if you catch my drift) is a manual on how to discover and setup a secret society. Nietzsche is basically Machiavelli, except he is writing against those who Machiavelli instructed.

[@TheLastRealWatchGuy]

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You think so? I found the speakers attempt at portraying expression to be insufferably fake, empty, and distracting. This is one rare example where I would rather have watched a power point on the subject than to sit through this guys inauthentic overacting.

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[@ski8799]

Marcus Aurelius, the humble stoic master deserves close review. A man that had all of the power of the World at his fingertips and yet he lived a modest, morally righteous life.

[@bryanutility9609]

Nietzsche pointed out Stoicism is great for Emperors & Slaves, the two most constrained forms of life.

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yes, he is great but he also literally got cucked and coped with it through stoicism

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[@flowwolf4]

As an avid reader of this greatly misunderstood philosopher, I love this video and I have watched it many times. I think it's the best introduction I know to the genealogy and to Nietzsche's perspective on morality in general. Thank you for uploading Jonathan.

[@bi.johnathan]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@nvmffs]

There's a misconception here. Nietzsche didn't necessarily advocate treating others as mere instruments. He endorsed: Shared Humanity, which is a form of compassion driven by a recognition of our shared human experience. This involves empathy and understanding without necessarily feeling pity. Tough Love which represents an approach that motivates the suffering individual to overcome their struggles. It might involve setting boundaries or challenges that ultimately benefit the other person's growth. Respectful Challenge: Nietzsche argued that sometimes challenging others can help them develop. This wouldn't be about using them for your own gain, but pushing them to overcome limitations and reach their full potential.

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[@bobby8630]

I agree with your nuanced take, is it just me, or does the speaker here come across as inauthentic? His speech does not come across as nuanced, it comes across as overly focused on presentation… and I’ve only watched the first 10 minutes, he even does this fake laugh which comes across as planned and inauthentic…

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Lol you talking cap, Nietzsche was very clear only the powerful should rule , any one else can be stepped on if you’re better than them you’re reading your own morality into Nietzsche we’re there’s no sign of it

[@bobby8630]

@@KingJ1397-v8q your comment is the trap people fall into when reading Nietzsche, you feel you’re superior. It’s a similar mentality to Genghis Khan, perhaps even Hitler.

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Is it just me - or does the speaker come across as overly focused on presentation? Like he seems to be focused on being persuasive and certain, which makes me feel like I’m not learning nuanced information. He also does a fake laugh at one point.

[@Ccm2019]

The Japanese have a concept in Ikigai that aligns with the idea of Master and Slave Morality. It recognizes that some individuals have the duty to lead (Master Morality), while others are more suited to serve (Slave Morality). The key isn't about leaders being self-absorbed or servers being incompetent. Instead, the solution lies in combining and acknowledging their strengths. By learning to balance and complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, they can work harmoniously and effectively together.

[@svenheuseveldt7188]

How duality creates harmony: cant have day without night cant have cold without heat Cant have winners without losers cant have rich without poor cant have leaders, without followers they exists because of eachother, they are the two sides of the same coin. seperate, but secretly part of the same thing.

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[@EclecticEngineer604]

This is crazy , I was just talking about finding a balance between all aspects of life so we can succeed but still not burn our minds and body out , to still remain present in each moment , my opionion is one should strive to become an eclectic philosopher and embody the best part of each great thinkers philosophy, which is subjective also 😂

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[@bi.johnathan]

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thank god there is KZbin and someone to explain those difficult things I've been trying but failed to understand. Although I live a poor life, I can feel like one of those masters sitting in that room, just look at them, all privileged. I can say, I feel more privileged now. Thank you!

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[@Supremeintrospection]

The whole crowd at the end was heartbroken, lol. You could see it in their facial expressions. I felt liberated, however, still madly respecting the man who put his madness into writing. Thank you, Nietzsche, forever making history.

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[@bobby8630]

I am watching this slowly as I want to understand this POV. Eckhart Tolle talks about the 2 dimensions of the Human Being, the Human, and the being. I feel like this is the Human dimension. If you have experience with deep states of meditation and or psychedelics, you begin to experience all human beings as one, and not as mere instruments. Perhaps a balance is required.

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Rodion Raskolnikov thought he was a higher man. The man of virtue is the higher man and if you want to become him, turn to Aristotle, not Nietzsche.

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[@bi.johnathan]

I would agree with you here. Aristotle is on the way.

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[@sheikhalprotein]

Thank you, Jonathan, for the thought-provoking lecture on morality. It's a topic I'm always interested in learning more about. Having grown up in a Christian (evangelical) household, I'm finding it valuable to explore different perspectives on morality through philosophy. It's concerning to hear about the influence of some churches in developing countries that may hinder progress. I'm glad there are ongoing discussions about the role of religion in society. My own journey with philosophy has been rewarding, and I'm grateful for the chance to keep learning and growing. Better late than never!

[@VedanshSrivastava-zi2es]

00:02 Startups succeed due to dictatorship structure. 02:12 Motivations for building the company were pride, greed, glory, and lust, rather than making the world a better place. 06:55 Nietzsche advocates for Master morality over slave morality. 09:19 Christian greatness questioned by Nietzsche 14:16 Advocating for inegalitarianism to achieve great projects 16:33 Nietzsche values producing inspiring individuals over the happiness of the majority. 20:54 Nietzsche aims to expose the origins of slave morality and how it hinders the production of higher men. 22:58 The history of the West is a battle between Rome and Judea, with Christian morality influencing it. 27:17 The concept of good and evil is derived from the perspective of Masters and Slaves. 29:21 Masters embody joyful brute, naive self-assurance 33:32 Christianity emphasizes virtues of victims 35:41 Nietzsche critiques Christianity for its hypocrisy and false portrayal of love. 39:33 Nietzsche criticizes slave morality for promoting life-denying values and false ideas of freedom. 41:36 Nietzsche explores the concept of moral blame and praise 45:42 Free Will invented to blame others 47:51 Slave morality inverts value system, introduces Free Will. 51:47 Priests promote the aesthetic ideal as a form of slave morality. 53:42 Denying oneself secures political legitimacy. 57:39 Philosophers choose conditions for their great work, not for virtue 59:21 Philosophers' virtues are influenced by their predispositions and circumstances. 1:03:35 Aesthetic ideal implies denying life for denying life's sake. 1:05:39 Interpreting life as suffering depends on individual nature 1:09:50 Aesthetics choosing to actively chop off their penises reflects the Will To Power. 1:11:55 The appeal of aesthetic ideal to humans based on cruelty and suffering. 1:16:08 Original sin as a motivating force for self-cruelty and aesthetic ideal 1:18:08 Suffering is attributed to self-guilt and denial in Nietzsche's ideology. 1:22:28 Nietzsche argues that religion is more likely a psychological phenomenon than a divine truth. 1:24:26 Critique of Nietzsche's biases in explanations 1:28:26 Nietzsche's ideal of individualism is naive and impossible. 1:30:30 Nietzsche's chronic sickness and rejection influencing his philosophy 1:34:37 Nietzsche had a positive value-creating side

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[@Mathematchit]

This is a very scary Lecture, to think that, there is a lesson out in the world where what is considered "immoral" is actual justified with undeniable logic and reason.

[@roannavochez1197]

right?! all these people praising in comments are psychopaths!

[@roannavochez1197]

U have to finish to the end, he critiques the entirety of material up to that point.

[@Mathematchit]

@@roannavochez1197 his criticism of the material as i have watched it to the end does not invalidate logic that made it true in the first place. Nietzsche was a loser but he being a loser is something that even he established on his analysis of the ancient philosopher. Point being, do you want to be a master or a slave because i am 34 and i can assure you, having a slave mentality made my life 100 000 times harder. Why should i hide what i am naturally gifted at to satisfy the people around me? Should i live a modest life if i can exceed that a 1000 fold? I don't admire modest people, they usually have a reason behind their conduct.

[@roannavochez1197]

@@Mathematchit bro switched teams 😭

[@roannavochez1197]

@@Mathematchit and the logic u consider "undeniable" is not impervious to critique. In fact, Nietzsche's genealogy rationale follows such narrow-minded cynicism that it did not go on to majorly define his legacy, but rather his revolutionary ideas on free will and religion did instead. There is no such thing as a slave mentality unless you want there to be. From my perspective it is a loving vs a hating mentality, others may call it a growth vs a fixed mindset, or more simply a winning vs a losing mentality. Nietzsche's fearfully arrogant analysis of human drive and motive are what led him to cynically divide man into the false dichotomy of slaves and masters. After all he could have used any number of analogous dualities to describe the hierarchal power dynamics of human society, yet he chose only the cruelest of lenses from which to analyze human nature. Even so, such a rigidly, binary view of any natural human phenomenon is plainly false as the infinitely multifaceted nature of reality ensures a wide range and variety of human archetypes which each boast their own strengths and complimentary weaknesses.

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This channel is my new jam from now on,I would recommend sugrue's lecture too on genealogy.And please keep uploading...

[@hassanahmad3589]

Nietzsche is a mesmerizing writer. The question, however, is and always has been a metaphysical one. Morality in the absence of God is but weakness. Materialism is the foundation of the Nietzsche’s critique of Christianity and morality.

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This is the first time I've listened to a 1 and half hour lecture on KZbin. It's marvellous how well spoken you are! I've listened to a lot of people talk about him but it's mostly in tid bits. And I've often liked what he had to say. But this reading of his entire book has been very eye opening for me. It challenges every fibre of your being. I thought I questioned everything but some of the things he questioned, I didn't even know their origins. Man alienated everyone; various religions, Philosophers, the privileged, as well as the poor and didn't even leave the monks! Maybe, that's why he lost faith in humanity in the end. And maybe, your critique of him is right. Although, I always found Ad Hominem to be a cheap shot. And there's probably no one whose ideas had been dismissed by people because of his personality or insanity more than him. Many of those people though, are people who barely understand nihilism or stoicism. But your critique is certainly much more well formed, and quite likely the case.

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One of the best yt reccomendations ever. Almost too good even. I would disagree on your own comments on Nietzsche and some readings of yours of him, but I definetly did gain a point of view on him. Thank you

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Thank you Johnathan for this fantastic lecture! I was completely captavated the entire nintey minutes. Your closing words "Ive been to convinced by Nietzsche, to be convinced by the rhetoric of the sick" are so well said!

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This was the greatest lecture I have ever watched. For me, peering into Philosophy, Psychology and Religion. So many ideas come through that aren’t always fully or simply understood, hardest of all to put them all in relativity to each other especially directly looking into the mind of the creator is overwhelming. This really helped me understand Fredrick better. Cheers

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The first hour I was just like "this guy is just very eloquently preaching the religion of existentialism and Nietzsche as it's holy prophet" but then towards the end saw you in a totally different light. Huge respect brother

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WOW. Awesome presentation. Best philosophy professor I've ever seen.

[@vageesha7284]

Oh, I'm stunned, it's such a whole new world for myself! What a great explanation

[@adamursenbach7992]

I think this lecture gives a powerful and cogent reading of Nietzsche, but I think people who are new to his thought will miss out if this is their first, and especially only, source. I think the section on limitations, in particular, misses some important nuances. On the "Will to Power," I think it's important to note that a layman's definition of "power" may be misleading here. What "power" means to Nietzsche seems much more subtle than domination as we may perceive it. I think it's a useful exercise to ask "how could X be the Will to Power" than to say that it seems inaccurate. Zarathustra argues "Gift Giving Virtue" to be the highest virtue, where you take from the world so that you can give more abundantly afterwards. Part of the paradigm shift he presents is asking us to see approach these things as manifestations of health and abundance. I would also briefly suggest that the more revolutionary aspect is the overtaking of "being" as a primary good by "becoming," this may click well with Girard. On "The Sovereign Individual," Nietzsche strikes me as having an intense love for friendship. The Gay Science has some excellent, even heartwrenching sections on this. I think it's a much more sensible surface read to say that he holds manipulation in contempt, and is so deeply polemical because he wants to find more genuine modes of communication. His succinct repudiations of shame, of morality as necessary clothing, his intimate writing on "Star Friendship," the bleakness of "Across The Footbridge," and many other sections point to a yearning for something genuine. His sociality may be selective, but I reject the idea that he's anywhere near a pure individualist. On "Nietzsche's Life," I think this section loses nuance in giving a run-of-the-mill critique. I find it cutting and powerful, but I would point out a few things. Firstly, in Ecce Homo he describes himself as having been born with a "double origin, taken as it were from the highest and lowest rungs of the ladder of life, at once a decadent and a beginning, this, if anything, explains that neutrality, that freedom from partisanship in regard to the general problem of existence, which perhaps distinguishes [him]." A generous reading has to take him in this light. He claims to write things from the peaks of gaiety, being capable of glimpsing a more transcendent state. He writes of having two to three "faces," he writes for his "unknown friends," occasionally misdirecting them to teach them to think for themselves. He writes as a philologist, hoping to 'drive to despair every one who is “in a hurry.”' What I think a surface reading - of the man or the texts - may miss is the interpretation in which he is significantly more careful, determined, and joyful than he may appear. It remains an open question for me whether he was driven by a hidden love for his future friends, by ressentiment, or by any other combination of things, but I find it more enriching to stay open to this range of possibilities.

[@abrysunnyanthraper7118]

Amazing comment.

[@es-mh7pi]

First video of that type. How great it is thougj !!! Great work

[@celerystalk1521]

The aesthetics here are hysterical

[@shamanicrevolution2204]

Thank you someone else noticed. Insane

[@joaolourencomvf]

What an amazing video! You managed to present complex ideas in a clear and easy to understand manner, I also loved the classroom format You just gained yourself a new subscriber and I will certainly spend the next few days going through your other videos, keep up the good work!

[@michaeliacono4853]

I think calling people who follow Nietzsche almost always sick, ugly and marginalised is a gross misrepresentation. Teddy Roosevelt, Bruce Lee, Johnny Depp and Arnold Schwarzenegger, all fans of Nietzsche's ideas of the ubermensch and self overcoming, don't exactly strike me as sick desperate weaklings. He is probably the most lauded philosopher of the modern era and has amassed a following of people from all walks of life, strong and weak. I also think it's rather unfair that you used an incident from his period of madness to indict the man's character.

[@blueheron4498]

Nietsche would object to saying that condemning the unfortunate is "unfair".

[@mustwatchlive]

Yeah because I’m in shape etc healthy happy and I live Nietzsche. To me he’s real. Brutally honest which I respect

[@henrytep8884]

@@mustwatchliveyou saying you “I live Nietzsche” would cause Nietzsche to throw up, vomit and die due to how antithetical that statement is towards Nietzsche belief and how much of a sheep a person can be and also say they follow Nietzsche. It’s ironic how one can be so devoted to a belief and not understand the principle belief or execute the belief. Why did you fail to understand what Nietzsche was trying to teach you? Why do you think you’ve been inspired by him yet act like a sheep?

[@mustwatchlive]

@@henrytep8884 first of all I don’t act like a sheep. Nietzsche just exposed people. In my opinion you can’t follow him. Because you will get into a lot of conflict also. I have the same personality type as Nietzsche that’s y I did research on him. What ever crazy projecting ass response you give after this. I won’t reply. You don’t know me and if you did you will know I’m far from a sheep. I’ll be damn if I argue with a potential AI bot on KZbin.

[@Post-Yap_Clarity]

I’m a fan of Nietzsche. I’m a degenerate.

[@shawnfaison5118]

That's one of the best lectures ( if not the best lecture ) on Nietzsche I have ever heard.

[@thewarriorphilosopher]

I’m just 30 seconds in but I already love it. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I’m a big Nietzsche guy.

[@CieryLZM]

I don't know how I got here, but I'm sure glad I listened to this insight. Very thought provoking and reflective. Thank you for this

[@hxreal7682]

I wish I found this 10 years ago when I was 17, this is brilliant. Thank you

[@AbrahamMapatano]

This was incredibly interesting and very well articulated. Your dissection of the hypocrisy of the priest and how their ultimate means to power are the very virtues that rebuke power itself was super thought provoking. This made me think about the story of the Ascension of Christ and how he came down as a lowly mortal sinless and blameless to take all of our sins and still dies on the cross for us BUT ultimately rises again 3 days later to prove God’s ultimate authority over all creation. Really enjoyed this.

[@SorryDudeImBroke]

Just watch the damn video and stop trying to give a critical synopsis

[@AbrahamMapatano]

@@SorryDudeImBroke 😂

[@yodaheabebe3756]

JBP would say, "Nietzsche misunderstood the "Meek-ness" emphasized in Christianity. Meek doesn't mean those who don't have power. It means those who do have power but decide to not use it wrongly."

[@joelkomba1286]

exposure of the foolishness of the wisdom of men to the wisdom the wisdom of God.

[@bucketiii7581]

Why on earth would anyone care what Peterson thinks about Nietszche? That's like asking Taylor Swift's opinion of Beethoven.

[@yodaheabebe3756]

@@bucketiii7581 🤔 Not sure if you're uninformed or being facetious...

[@safaaltinisik1652]

And he would maybe turn and ask himself ''Well... What do you mean by using it wrongly, define the wrong.'' Then we would go back to the Nietszche :)

[@yodaheabebe3756]

@@safaaltinisik1652 Hahaha 😆 very possible! But JBP has a way of surprising you with some seriously deep take that you weren't expecting.

[@josephharmeyer3586]

Truly wonderful lecture. It truly shows the work you have put into speaking with confidence and eloquence. As someone who has not studied Nietzsche this true has inspired me to pick his books. I must say your final argument critiquing Nietzsche is very power.

[@user-ny8vq1on6m]

A great lecture, but at times a little bit rudimentary particularly in describing the Overman as a brute, and that those that identify with it are inherently weak and fantasize about power. Many intellectuals throughout history, on either side of the political spectrum, as well as many powerful people both credit and are adherents of Nietzsche. However, you mentioned those that follow him without critique, and to some degree, I agree, but most who follow him I believe do so because they identify wholeheartedly with his perspective. I’m sure some “weaker” individuals do, but they have completely misunderstood the teachings, which in my opinion, is no fault of theirs…as aforementioned, minds both left and right find validity in Nietzsche so it goes without saying that minds both weak and strong would identify with him as well. His work is both decisively precise and in tandem, obscurely vague. I also believe that likening the overman to your high school jock (although perhaps very relatable to many) doesn’t assist in pinning down the complexity of the character. Regardless, I throughly enjoyed this. More please!

[@johnwisdom651]

Thank you Johnathon, for a great insightful summary of a great work!!!

[@Vpopov81]

man that ending stabbed me right in the heart because I live a life like nietzche. sick, marginalized, alone. Maybe thats why I was attracted to his writings as well..... It was a life full of suffering that caused me to search for meaning and though I beleive in the divine kingdom and teachings of jesus and the buddha, I also have a strong nitzchean influence. I do think the reason that I am attracted to these writings is because niche shows us how to turn a bad hand into a win. He had an extremely difficult life and he still managed to knock it out of the park

[@bucketiii7581]

lol. a nietzschean christian. Anyone reading this who thinks this video is profound, be aware of the company you attract.

[@Vpopov81]

@@bucketiii7581 Nietzsche was against Christianity but not Christ. Christ would have been against this Christianity also

[@immanueldiai8089]

Nietzsche's life took a downturn in the latter parts of his life but it was due to circumstances outside of his control. He did not choose to be sick, neither did he decide to go mad. The fact that his work was not appreciated by his contemporaries is also not his fault...people appreciate them today...and you can say this of many people and many great works that were not appreciated at the time of their era but were greatly valued later on. Even things that were valued at one time are considered trash now. To critic Nietzsche based on factors outside of his control, for me is not good enough. I agree that his ideas though profound, contain clear weaknesses and are certainly quite extreme. I am sure that humanity is capable of better than celebrating pillaging, raping, and so on... All in all, this was a great video. I certainly enjoyed it and learnt a lot too.

[@saralemus5897]

I battle with identifying as a salve or maste. This lecture gave me a new insights into why I have certain beliefs… I’m still unpacking this lecture, my brain wheels are turning 😂 I bet it has something to do with my free will.. unto the next lecture!

[@KingJ1397-v8q]

Na bro you just a sociopath

[@joecast0659]

I never comment but this was a genuinely amazing lecture, that brought back to my mind many of Nietzsche's most illuminating and important thoughts. I wonder what you might think of this: Nietzsche's overemphasis on the will to power as his interpretive modus operandi immediately makes one question whether he was not in fact afflicted by the same perverse motivations (due to his own life for example). But this reading of him, which I had, was quickly troubled when I read Zarathustra (after his later works) in which he condemns ressentiment in such fierce and unforgiving terms (On the Tarantulas, On Passing-by come to my mind), that I find it unbelievable that after all that he was still helpless against ressentiment. Also, he says he overcomes ressentiment in Ecce Homo. I'm merely saying that, though its certain that he was at one point afflicted, it may not be the case that he was to end...but, considering the quote from the biographer you shared at the end of the video, he may have lost in the end anyways. But this, to my mind, merely makes his stand against ressentiment (in places like Zarathustra) all the more heroic. He did say that its possible to have the keys to the locks of others but not oneself.

[@bi.johnathan]

Thanks. I never comment on others videos either :p yeah he’s def aware of it … in GoM he says that he is not the master he is describing that the artist is not the art that Homer is not Achilles. I’m skeptical of his claim that he overcame it … for the reasons you listed here

[@GarumOverdose]

Of course he was affected. We all are. We've grown in two millenia of Christendom, it's beyond being the air we breathe. Our atheists, our secular ideologues, are in some real sense just Christian heretics.

[@solomonsfarm]

There are a lot of intelligent young people, but not many wise ones. Live 50 years, then tell me what your philosophy is. That is wisdom. When I was reading Nietzsche in 9th grade after school, I too thought I knew something. Then I had a life and learned.

[@mouse_thakur]

so share to us some of your wisdom and lessons

[@yourbusinessempire]

Talk. I would love to learn your philosophy.

[@T-ShawnLewis]

Seeing You Talk and Your Hand Gestures, Remains Me Of The Late "Michael Sugrue." RIP 🙏🏾

[@bi.johnathan]

Some links to further guide your study: * Join my email list to be notified of future episodes: johnathanbi.com * Full transcript: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/transcript-for-nietzsches-genealogy?r=l66v& Companion lectures & interviews: * Girard's Defense of Christianity: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqmTan54eaZ4b6M * Nietzsche's Attack on Free Will (Launching 6/9/24): kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKvdqXmrrq-La6c Texts I referenced (affiliate): * Best Translation of the Genealogy: amzn.to/45jtXS4 * My Book Notes: www.johnathanbi.com/p/on-the-genealogy-of-morality-by-nietzsche * Best Reading Companion to the Genealogy: amzn.to/3x4QQMc * My Book Notes: www.johnathanbi.com/p/nietzsche-on-morality-by-brian-leiter

[@prchaser2081]

Your link to Nietzsche's Attack on Free Will is private.

[@bi.johnathan]

@@prchaser2081 It launches this weekend!

[@johnathanoverton6122]

A bit short sighted, but there are some strong points. Of course, you can be a good looking Christian, powerful and strong and without desire for passing desires. You could apply almost the entirety of his philosophical arguments in reverse. That the Greco Roman way is an attempt to hide insecurity. That the need to shove someone into a locker is a veiled attempt to cover weakness. In fact, what is it Jonathan admits to reaching for if not an attempt to be perceived, if only, yet doubtable, by himself, as a higher man. And so, he finds himself in constant comparison against the slave and operates as such. Nietzsche himself died isolated and in poverty.

[@bi.johnathan]

@@johnathanoverton6122 I make that exact last point against Nietzsche towards the end!

[@johnathanoverton6122]

I think you may enjoy, if you haven’t already, David Hawkins’ Power vs Force

[@uvi6344]

Johnathan, I would like to personally thank you for all of your content. You possess a unique perspective given your Buddhist and Christian backgrounds. You truly have grasped my attention and I look forward to researching more of your work. apologies for the comparison but you remind me of Michael Sugrue and researching his work led me to you. Have you heard of him?

[@bi.johnathan]

Big fan!

[@kaioxys]

Never have I clicked so fast

[@mapalochansa9965]

Where was this lecture?

[@sambarryofficial]

This is an amazing analyses. I didn't know anything about Nietzsche prior to watching this. I've learnt so much. Thanks!

[@Emeraldice]

My mind is blown, thank you

[@francesco9315]

Best Nietzche lecture I heard fo far. Thank you!

[@SzymonKot_]

This is absolute gold bro. thank you.

[@rogurishimaru]

I'm glad I discovered this channel. The energy put in each video is quite enthralling. I really enjoyed this lecture, the analysis and the critical part as well. Just one thing rubbed me the wrong way. Nietzsche wrote something like eighteen books. A loser would have given up sooner.

[@VincentBeauchemin]

Morality made us survive as a species. Its by caring about each other that we were able to build society and raise above animals. Its not a weakness, its a production of our biology to make us survive.

[@alekisighl7599]

Biology is inherently amoral. You are confusing concepts here.

[@MoonCrab00]

society is not required to survive. It just makes it more pleasant. Nature moves on regardless of the outcome. Like roaches, some humans will always be left behind with the exception to cosmic level events.

[@jonathanbowen3640]

@@alekisighl7599 Bioligcal life can be immoral. Life is also very moral things that are like itself. Such as genetic relatives. Its not fully either

[@uncletheoneshotkid3001]

Disagree. There is no concrete definition on what morality even is. It’s a person to person thing, and who cares for who is a subjective thing as well. Most people only care for those they consider part of their group

[@charmedprince]

It's 12:18 AM and this is helping me work overtime 🎉

[@ZentyLP]

I'm getting Michael Sugrue vibes. Kinda cool. ☺

[@prometheusboat]

They sound very similar indeed

[@nooneknows5463]

Yeah I agree ❤

[@bwizzle4194]

Sugrue is a legend

[@nooneknows5463]

@@bwizzle4194 was'(

[@AE0N777]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@tibinjohn8752]

Unbelievable quality - if what we say tells us more about a person’s unique view of life than about life itself as you beautifully show, I’d say your perspective on life is incredibly compelling. Please post more!!

[@shamanicrevolution2204]

This is so good. Yet I can't shake the fact that the man went mad.

[@tumelonkonyane8015]

THIS LECTURE CHANGED MY LIFE

[@anonymous62810]

Beautiful lecture!

[@subashtamang2771]

Hello.. That was a great lecture. Love from Nepal. You mentioned that u joined a monastery here in Nepal. May I know which one please. 🙏 Thank you

[@badmen1550]

Nietzsche never married, and actually went insane. He never recovered from his insanity and died at a young age with no money or recognition for his work. So much for the ‘higher men’ he spoke of. What’s also funny is that Nietzsche and his ideas have still failed to produce men of the likes of Beethoven or Napoleon, who were both “resentful Christians” oddly enough. Nietzsche is dead (and God has killed him)

[@KingJ1397-v8q]

Lol I love this

[@JR-om9oo]

"There is a false saying: “How can someone who can’t save himself save others?” Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?" - Nietzsche

[@brandonbloch3144]

Nietzsche actually addresses this in his Genealogy of Morals, though it might just be a coping mechanism for his lack of romantic exploits lol - “Similarly, the philosopher shudders mortally at marriage, together with all that could persuade him to it-marriage as a fatal hindrance on the way to the optimum. Up to the present what great philosophers have been married? Heraclitus, Plato, Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, Schopenhauer-they were not married, and, further, one cannot imagine them as married. A married philosopher belongs to comedy that is my rule; as for that exception of a Socrates-the malicious Socrates married himself, it seems, ironice, just to prove this very rule. Every philosopher would say, as Buddha said, when the birth of a son was announced to him: "Râhoula has been born to me, a fetter has been forged for me"”…

[@Biggtwin]

Amen! I thought I would never make it through the “AMAZING LECTURE, PROFOUNDLY THOUGHT PROVOKING VIEW ON MORALITY” comments😂😂😂 I didn’t realize how many “higher men” are just scrolling through KZbin.

[@EvoAI]

​@@BiggtwinHe created Hitler

[@thinkwithtim]

I very much enjoyed this lecture. Looking forward to exploring more.

[@eggstravagent3801]

What the hell. I’ve never watched anything on YT that was almost 2 hours! Such a man with eloquence, and competence that he captivated a naive individual such as myself, I don’t know anything about an “essetic” (heck I might’ve spelt that wrong) or an “eagaliterian” but I have been enameled by your speech sir, you have my utmost support and respect. Kudos❤

[@roannavochez1197]

bru

[@desmondnana-bentum9589]

Your suit is soo good. That's what sold me on this video.

[@nicolem889]

I’m so glad I’m not in my 20s. I really would have thought this guy was smart. 😂

[@doclime4792]

​@shottathakid1898you ever watch those preachers who obviously spend more time preaching than reading the Bible. This is that guy for serious philosophers teaching Nietzsche. It's the Wikipedia with a side of self-help.

[@bucketiii7581]

@shottathakid1898 Because the amount of money spent on production, costume, and location is probably more than your tuition.

[@KennyBagaabaga]

@shottathakid1898je didn’t read Nietzsche or little did he understood him

[@dr.tetris7842]

Nietzsche or Johnathan Bi?

[@abhishek5887]

@@nicolem889 i’m in early 20s and haven’t even read too much nietzsche but was resisting punching my phone.

[@mexid2569]

Brilliant stuff! Getting more intrigued by Nietzsche's philosophy.

[@sidhantsharma9961]

My opinion is that you’re misquoting Buddhism. The never said that “all life is suffering”, but he used the word Dukkha, which means unsatisfactory. And the reason he gives for that is the impermanence of everything. Yes you can conqust, have orgies become a billionaire, but they are all temporary and will eventually end up being unsatisfactory due to their perishable nature.

[@yusufalef92]

Sadhu sadhu sadhu 🙏

[@Revivalism23]

Buddha did said life is suffering