Matšhela Koko on battle vs NPA, how to fix Eskom load shedding, state capture, Zondo, Ramaphosa

In today’s episode, we are joined by former Executive Matshela Koko on the load shedding crisis, details around his arrest, state capture, the NPA and so much more!
📚 Today’s Episode Features:
1. Koko vs NPA
2. Load-shedding crisis & possible solutions
3. State Capture
4. Chief Justice Raymond Zondo
5. President Cyril Ramaphosa
6. Minister Kgosientsho Ramokgopa
We apologise for minor technical glitches which created breaks in the episode at 30 mins and 40 mins.
💡 Special Guest - Matshela Koko: A chemical engineer & former GCEO of Eskom Group between 2016 and 2018, and has worked in the energy industry for over 25 years. He was accused of participating in state capture and adverse findings were made against him in Raymond Zondo’s State Capture Report. Following his arrest, Koko was brought before court but the case was struck off the roll for excessive delays on the part of the NPA. We discuss all this and more!
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:50 - Koko vs NPA
00:31:19 - State Capture
00:48:45 - Load-shedding
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Credits:
Director: Bongani Nkosi
Producer: Oratile Kekana
Production Manager: Noluthando Mkhize
DOP and Editor: Bongani Nkosi
2nd camera operator and assistant editor: Lesego Kgobe
Photographer: Bongani Nkosi
Sound: Kgothatso Senne
Social Media Manager: Oratile Kekana
About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.h

[@nelsonlebepe1084]

Congratulations to SMWX for bringing the man that once solved Loadshedding

[@brianclement2329]

No he didn't. All he did was run the power generation system without maintenance. Also, burned diesel to keep the lights on. Diesel is very expensive and only meant as a peaking generation plant, not for baseload. Like running your car without ever servicing it until, one day, the wheels fall off.

[@makhabzaranamane6869]

@@brianclement2329 lies

[@jo-d-lo38]

YES, HE DID BUT. WHITES WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE THAT HE AND ALSO MOLEFE WERE USELESS WHEN,IN ACTUAL FACT DE RUYTER WAS THE ABSOLUTELY USELESS ONE. DURING HIS TENURE AS CEO OF GIANT PACKING COMPANY NAMPAK,IT LOST ALMOST 5/6 OF IT'S MARKET CAP (from almost R30b to approximately R5b). THE SOONER WE STOP CRAVING VALIDATION FROM WHITES,THE BETTER. UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE DINOSAURS IN POWER,THEY MAKE IT DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY ARE CLUELESS.

[@jhelm1712]

@@brianclement2329 Agreed its absurd that a person can say such looking at the state of Eskom ... 😂😂

[@mlungisimthembu8335]

@@brianclement2329that’s what the media says but we now know it’s lies. The Eskom documents do corroborate what he is saying. Go read it

[@mlungisimthembu8335]

One thing SA media and comrades hate, is competent black professionals. I’m glad you gave this man a voice.

[@venussimo]

1. Eskom is being deliberately destroyed. 2. Who stands to benefit from the destruction of Eskom? These are the only things two things you should be concerned about

[@shadrackmashoene6228]

100%

[@mlungisimthembu8335]

@@venussimo The private sector and the comrades stand to benefit

[@Sterben-iw3yx]

You also have to consider that fact that there are many people who assume they can identify competent and professional people, and when other people criticize said person for not being so, those who thought otherwise will ignorantly defend them rather than listen to reason or learn something. Like how your typical EFF supporter thinks Malema is the best thing ever but refuse to look at him objectively and also cant because its no secret to everyone else, EFF supporters are really really ignorant. Without knowledge you cant make logical, objective, or otherwise comparisons without a foundation, and so you are nothing more than sheep, being herded along. People lack being aware of their own limitations.

[@mlungisimthembu8335]

@@Sterben-iw3yx I’m not really sure how EFF and their supporters are relevant in this discussion. However, with regards to this issue the proof is simply in his record. He has not been convicted for any charges against him. He did reign when Eskom was doing well. Anything outside of this is propaganda and politics. Eskom documents are there for anyone to freely rebut what he is saying. The DA ran to courts to stop the nuclear deal the media ran with that story. Today all experts tell us that nuclear is the way to go. The minister of electricity has just announced this intention. Outsourcing your thinking is lazy. It’s like we are being forced to agree with the media when it does not make sense.

[@nkosinathimaphalala4859]

The level of confidence this African Child has is a motivation

[@mixi2090]

Yes his motivation = tender billions. Beeeelions and Beeeelions. Like bra Smuts Ngonyama said he did not join tha straggle to be poa

[@venussimo]

Long story short: Loadshedding is deliberate and is manufactured to benefit ANC corruption. The engineers Koko used to work with are still there, they have been silenced and threatened to allow corruption.

[@nkululekozulu6998]

I concur with you Msuthu, Koko is so confident, and I appreciate his calmness when relaying the happening of things as well as their sequence.

[@mixi2090]

Its the natural high of getting away with fraud worth beeelions He knows to move his beeeelions off shore as well like all the other cadres cause they know the ZAR will be worth fakhol soon.

[@buyanifakudze3489]

At some point we were made to believe that only retired engineers could sort out ESKOM. The implication being that Africans are too dumb to understand engineering. It's reassuring and important to have someone quashing those misconceptions. I hope young people are inspired

[@mohlomikhuluoe4213]

"If you're not careful, the media will have you hate people you're supposed to love, and love those you're supposed to hate", Malcolm X. As a country we'll apologize to Jacob Zuma one day, his crimes will seem like a drop in the ocean when compared to Cyril Ramaphosa's

[@nathanielkgobe427]

True

[@simphiwentshangase7136]

Just because Ramaphosa has been atrocious that doesn't mean we ought to apologize to Zuma. Both of them have done a disservice for the country

[@Nqobie1]

I pray that day comes soon. Cyril is guilty of treason.

[@mohlomikhuluoe4213]

One didn't sell the entire country to private business for some shares@@simphiwentshangase7136

[@mbusomkhwanazi48]

​@@simphiwentshangase7136one day your eyes will be opened. What you have been told about Zuma, the Guptas and that whole story was a smokescreen.

[@levrushforth6946]

As humans we have an inate ability to pick up when someone is being honest or lying. This man comes across as being genuine and intelligent. As a fellow UCT Chemical engineering graduate, his engineering explanations on Boiler design are spot on. The ANC seems to hate anyone that actually knows what they are doing. They hate merit, because it will expose them all for being meritly bankrupt as an organization.

[@isoboy1000]

The ANC had a mandate to make Eskom fail and Matshela Koko was a man standing on their way of achieving the grand-plan, he was so good that resuscitated the asset that in downward spiral. That move angered the Capitalists, remember that for capitalists to have a stake in power generation economy Eskom has to fail so that renewables come in as a solution. Eskom was the best managed power generator with access to cheapest high quality coal and healthy balance sheet, how do you make such a successful entity in the world fail? you need to capture the coal supply (GLENCORE) and capture the operations within to break it down. private sector had no chance of competing with Eskom.

[@user-we3yu7pr9p]

ANC will be comfortable with lack of competence. It doesn't matter if one is green or blue.

[@Ditiro100]

ABSOLUTELY

[@nick8841]

You sound like a human lie detector. Studies actually show that humans are not good at picking up on lies. It sits around 50%. That's why people are cross-examined in court and interrogated so as to try expose any lies, if they are there.

[@papimphahlele8166]

This man knows his engineering💯

[@_SMWX]

That’s for sure.

[@mixi2090]

South Africa are where we are because of incompetent leadership. Former president Deng Xiaoping of China said "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice." We have disregarded this wisdom for far to long This man should be in prison making our number plates

[@ebenezermamabolo]

This guy should be the minister of Electricity and given enough power to get us out of the mess we are in.

[@mixi2090]

@@ebenezermamabolo No he should be minister of tenders. That's where he will really shine

[@thokozaningcamu3059]

He was the best Eskom has ever had! I remember his speech very well during Eskom Managers Awards in 2016 at Kendal Power Station where my Power Plant (Camden Power Station) was nominated as the best boiler tube managed plant. Boiler tube failures and other power plant failures are preventable, period. Ex Eskom Boiler Engineer

[@geraldgalane4285]

Very informative interview.

[@thokozaningcamu3059]

@@geraldgalane4285 indeed Rra Galane. It felt like a Boiler Plant Master Class 😄

[@sizwembatha2167]

Brooooo like the more the video goes on, you realize no maaan this guy is THE ONE like he oozes passion, know-how and technical competence. You can see he enjoys wrestling with these problems and instinctively knows which drawers to pull from his brain for each part of the problem. Pure genius. He is almost everything you would want in a technical executive. Then its like how the hell was he crucified and villified so much! Like how???

[@TehMr]

@@sizwembatha2167corruption and ego demonises any competence and virtue

[@sibusisosoko9367]

Recently working at Eskom I enjoy it but I so wish for the old Eskom I keep hearing about 😢

[@tumibaloyi2915]

"...my daughter. I don't have stepdaughters in my home..." 😢❤

[@SPECTRE559]

That is how African culture is. My brothers and sisters, I do not have cousins

[@emmatsebe1468]

That's an African father right there

[@t-somethingingodwetrust2867]

🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾

[@SiyabongaShezi-no6jt]

That is powerful 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@yakhekwinana462]

This is sooo heartwarming ❤❤❤❤. I love him more for this 🎉

[@sithembisombatha1713]

This guy is inspiring to us as engineering people...

[@therapeuticscrubbing3406]

We're glad people like you exist

[@nyiko24]

If there's one thing I have leant through watching alot of KZbin podcasts like this one is how governments and mainstream media all over the world are able to create an alternative reality just to bury someone. I pity what Koko went through. Well done Sizwe for balancing the narrative. Great podcast.

[@takalani3367]

Koko is passionate about engineering and electricity you can feel the love and knowledge about Eskom, The media will sell you an narrative and people end up judging the man, Thank Sizwe for bringing the Man and giving Matshela Koko an opportunity to share his wisdom with us.❤❤💯💯💔💔👋👋👋👋

[@emmatsebe1468]

He is passionate about Engineering ,and that's what we need in Eskom and any other State Owned Companies

[@mixi2090]

He is passionate about money my friend

[@user-rn3zj8fu8f]

U can see the level of confidence bcz he knows what he is talking about

[@mzwandilemazibuko9411]

Not some bunch of European lawyers who don't even know what an ohm is!

[@krb745iza]

Wena kubus, shut up. Dom kop.

[@ebenezermamabolo]

This guy can get us out of load shedding for sure.

[@Mzukisi_Gwata]

One thing about Koko is that he is meticulous with numbers. He also has a deep grasp of technical details of how things work at Eskom.

[@nelsonlebepe1084]

Mr Koko must sue the state for unlawful arrest!!

[@nathanielkgobe427]

The problem with our Leadership is that, they removed the right person who is very skillful for the job, and in his place, and replace him with lot of morons who it became apparent that they know nothing, even now it has been proven without any benefit of doubt, that they are there only for money being paid to bring Eskom to its knees, this is a clear Political Ploy. But bcs Africans are so naive, we're still going to vote for the same political party, which its Leadership are corrupt to the core.

[@Sterben-iw3yx]

He'll die of old age before he gets anywhere.

[@zakesmbatha2154]

Not that he is not corrupt he cleaned the evidence well , and he was doing his job properly and he knows his story in engineering

[@sphamandlandimande8169]

Those are another serious allegations you're making. Can you stand by your words in court of law?​@@zakesmbatha2154

[@mozai294]

Cyril Ramaphosa is one cruel guy, he's gotten away with so much it's sickening!

[@thegigguide]

Re tlameha ho mo ahlolela lefu

[@nzuzomthembu2460]

He is a ruthless Mafia who will eliminate anything that stands on his way to destroy this country . He is paying his masters for making him a billionaire , he has the full control of the state and media backing as such this will never be revealed by the mainstream media because they are behind him . This is sad 😢

[@barukyahuah7056]

Reputable man, I see honesty and integrity in him. Thanks Sizwe

[@lancencube5205]

Some people have no morals and ubuntu.its so sad for this country how on earth do u persue such a man for ones selfish ends?

[@eliudnkuna3930]

Really honest, stepdaughter got a tender from step father employer without prior experience in that field...we are taken for fools

[@tumeloseadira8224]

As a trained Chemical Engineer, you spoke my language. You said all that needs to be said about operations, optimization, and maintenance. You are a highly competent engineer Mr Koko

[@ntuli4294]

The black excellence of our time🎉🎉 the man who ended loadsheding 😢 Register to vote for the EFF 🖤💚❤

[@mzansitrash]

It was the same malema who helped to get rid of koko😂😂😂😂

[@vik4741]

sies, wanyela

[@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl]

Don't be EFF Fool...they are like ANC

[@patrickthorp3816]

EFF = Zimbabwe. Go read a history book. Fool

[@tobolee6385]

Lol ..it was black excellence that started loadshedding ..before 94 there was no loadshedding ...this comrade is a corrupt as they come ...watch his interview on carte Blanche and in Zonda commission ...lying through his teeth ..

[@mlt_mash]

The technical abilities and capabilities of Koko with regards to Eskom is unmatched. As a Process Engineer, I enjoyed how he articulate different processes of Eskom and you could here the man knows his story. Pity government don’t employ competent people and thus why we sitting with load shedding

[@philanimanqele8987]

Black excellence that media won't tell you about...great interview 👌🏿

[@vezivezi6132]

This guy sounds smart and standing on his ground firmly

[@ntuthukomlambo9160]

Thank you for inviting him he has now officially dealt with the fact that we are experiencing loadshedding because of pure incompetence

[@sizananimleya8668]

One other lesson: The importance of rising within the ranks of the company

[@bisabop976]

I can relate to the torture. My heart is bleeding but all I can say to you Mr Koko is JUSTICE will eventually prevail. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@bangiwenjanga2949]

Why his daughter got the tender..

[@shakeswamoafrica8825]

@@bangiwenjanga2949 Cyril's son is getting government tenders too....that's why..

[@ntuli4294]

The day people understand the ramaphosa-glencoe and big business relationship that's when they will see the real state capture

[@ms_tee]

Hey mntasekhaya, I used to work for a company that was in the same building as Glencore...maaannnn!!!

[@lwazimjiyako8763]

Ramaphosa... at one pointed he was given an instruction by JZ to babysit the gas plantation and he never visited it even once. A pure sabotage to please and benefit some white-capitalist-males including himself...nxxx

[@sabethngubeni]

Ngivumelana naye,isgebengu esikhulu uRamaphosa, kuyabonakala nje konamehlo.

[@simonphiri1481]

How on earth can Eskom lose such brilliant brains??? Somebody somewhere needs to swallow their pride and reinstate this man for the benefit of the entire nation!

[@venussimo]

He was standing in the way of corruption. That's why they got rid of him, now they are sabotaging Eskom and eating the fruits of that sabotage i.e. tenders, maintenance tenders, spares tenders etc. It's the same with other state owned entities.

[@gasisa78]

Because the plan is to collapse & privatize all state entities in order to do that is to get rid of those who have a clue how to run this entities.

[@neolephale425]

They can't rehire him you know why? Because ramaphalaphala is deliberately collapsing eskom

[@mduduzinkomo497]

​@@neolephale425 Evil person that fired black excellence nxi

[@maluksm4449]

Every time Koko takes a stand, he doesn't miss the opportunity to speak life to engineeering.

[@ellishaindobo1794]

This man needed this platform, and henceforth, should go on a podcast run. He needs his redemption and people need to know and understand what is really going on at Eskom.

[@lehlohonolomotaung1290]

This man is a danger to any corrupt movement. I now understand why the current government had to sabotage him and used the media to discredit him so they can continue “eating”. He is so articulate and passionate South Africa needs people like Mr Koko.

[@blackforextrader]

So calm, so truthful, so honest and so straight to the point, by listening to this interview you can hear that ntate Matshela Koko was sabotaged. The truth always gets to the right ears of people who will use it to go forward, young south African future leaders are taking note sir.

[@phaxaugust8928]

Mr Koko a Qualified Engineer who was fired by someone who doesn't understand the meaning of a gradient . Those in power have misused the same power we gave them against us...

[@lk3627]

That is my fear for my own children, having to report to idiots who think they know better

[@mzwandilengeshe5965]

Mr Koko , is very articulate and expressing the technical knowledge and experience.

[@louismzobe3073]

I also listened to Mr Brian Molofe's interview a year ago. It's like these two gentlemen are playing coordinated instruments in an orchestra. They are soaring through the atoms of Eskom. What a team

[@nkulusn]

He has glowing credentials. Chemical Engineering degree from UCT in 1996. He kept the lights on and this provided a predictable and stable economic environment. I think I speak for most South Africans when I say that the majority just want cheap and abundant energy. We have not had it in more than 10 years. This is a disaster for all the youth coming into adulthood - we have the highest unemployment and inequality in the whole world. When the country's engine room (Eskom) is dead, the ship (our economy) will simply not move. We have not been moving for over 10 years.

[@alkebulanafricanconversati1728]

I have been trying to get Mr Koko to Mentor me. I'm not an Engineer but a Aircraft Technician and also a student of Politics and International. The level of discipline, Professionalism, confidence is one that leaves one at awe. So many black professionals have been persecuted on national TV, creating fear and timidity to many other young/old professionals......it's a message that we should know our place but this man just keeps on coming back and when given a chance to talk......everyone stops and listens. I hope he reads this 🙏

[@khathi92]

The man is coming back next year!!!

[@_SMWX]

SMWX fam, thanks for your continued support. This channel is becoming place for exclusives and massive interviews. Our next big milestone is 100K subscribers. Did you enjoy the episode? Have you subscribed? Which other guests would you like to see on SMWX? Ayeye!

[@Navo90147]

Brian Molefe

[@t.uskhalo8929]

Markus Jooste

[@ntuthukomlambo9160]

Brain Molefe next

[@kabelomichaelmotloung]

The people's Advocate Dali Mpofu

[@jonajonie4066]

Please bring Brian Molefe to the platform

[@mahlasemofokeng5812]

We were made fools by CR, Zondo and these WMC's. Mr Koko needs to be reappointed as CEO of Eskom, right now he's the only guy who can end this artificial loadshedding sponsored by WMC.

[@eliudnkuna3930]

Koko was fired before Zondo commission started as usual people are just glorifying the corrupt, he may be the best engineer that we had but that doesn't remove his corrupt activities at Eskom

[@Sterben-iw3yx]

After the amount of damage done there is basically no money to fix the issue and even if they could find a way it would take years to fix the problem, it doesnt happen over night. And thats just Eskom, we arnt even talking about all other SOE's that are also fked and require billions to fix. The economy would need to recover before anything could really be done and to do that we need the ANC out.

[@gasisa78]

​@@eliudnkuna3930there is no proof of the allegations you leveling against him you are one of those who are falling for jamnundus narrative which is pro privatization.

[@ntombenkosiphekula3048]

This is the day that the lord has made and we shall rejoice in it. 🎉🎉😊The weekend was too long

[@thokozanikhumalo1223]

One of the best engineers South Africa ever produced so wish he can come back to resurrect Eskom

[@marabunya]

Dr Sizwe is now firmly in with the big, big boys when he's able to conduct interviews with figures like Matshela Koko. I know he's been visited by former Pres. Zuma in the past. This, however, is massive. I've waited a long time to hear from an objective source what the stories are from the side of the fences of Koko and Molefe.

[@SibusisoMthembu7729]

Very painful to here what they did to your family Mr Koko. How much more for those who don't have resources to fight them 😢. Thanks again Sizwe for this platform

[@bisabop976]

Ask that again cause some families don't even have the meanss to defend themselves like Mr Koko

[@firstcomment749]

Strongs to Mr Koko. U've showed integrity + has more to contribute.

[@old_man_kobe]

This was a great interview! Thanks to Mr Koko for coming to share his side and his ingrained knowledge about Energy. He's indeed an expert! @SMWX I beg you to please bring Mr Brain Molefe! We want to hear his side too! The State, with its might and force, is currently on a mission to override and erase black professionals of integrity with overwhelming success.

[@shakeswamoafrica8825]

Thankx a lot SMWX for bringing this man, I was looking forward to this interview ON PODCAST...not mainstream media news platforms I believe we deserve a Part 2 with this man, and we also look forward to an interview with Brain Molefe, another with Lucky Montana Mr Mpofu.....I appreciate the fact that you ask a question and spend up to 7 minutes quiet.....givint the interviewee sufficient opportunity to explain things......not this "we are running out of time" and interjections by seasoned journalists on mainstream media they call people in for interviews....the next thing they tell them that they are running out of time..

[@DesignThinkingWithLungile]

This is the kind of content we need. Brilliant interview. I am happy Dr Sizwe offered Mr Koko an opportunity to speak his truth. I finally saw Dr Sizwe at my graduation at Wits. Keep up the good work

[@katlegosomo6461]

This was such a beautiful episode. I’m quite fond of the meticulous breakdown of Eskom’s operations. These voices need to be amplified.

[@lungamampana6437]

Thank you for bringing this man to educate us about the ins and outs of Eskom problems or challenges

[@JamesButton-wf8ut]

I appreciate your story and hopping u will comeback and help SAs to come out of this dark situation.

[@FreedomMashabela-er6zk]

One of the best engineer's in the country that can help us eradicate loadshedding Very articulate and technical, without being emotional All the best of luck in your future endevours

[@nimrodshilaluke9848]

The content we deserve.... The way he explains it, if it was an interview he was getting this Job

[@user-rn3zj8fu8f]

Woooow what an interesting conversation and lecture.... Thank you Mr koko.... Part 2 needed

[@apostlegoodman6797]

I think, his story is almost same as Nehemiah's, when he wanted to rebuild the wall. many people opposed him, it's always the case, when you improve people's lives there'd be attack. May God bless us with his knowledge and passion for seeing the improvement of Eskom. He gave us information and his experience to differentiate problems v/s how they solved it. Great man for Mzansi. May God make him an epitome of solution in Jesus name! May all his bank accounts be opened and live a normal life in Jesus name

[@nathanielkgobe427]

True

[@sonininyaniso9683]

Who is Nehemiah now?

[@Nqobie1]

Amen

[@mxobhungane143]

Moses 😂😂 God never leaves Moses

[@willingtonsinky8561]

This gentleman and Brian molefe are the best 🤞

[@siphomm]

The level of confidence in him is superb, I think that what makes him the best Engineer. Great interview by the way.

[@musadlamini9501]

Thx Mpofu junior for bringing our African excellence of our time 👌🏿.I salute Mr Koko for all his contribution in SOEs n stand up strong Crd Koko this will pass after EFF takes over government in 2024.

[@robinson0186]

The truth is coming out. Thank you SMWX. I’m shocked at what I’ve just heard

[@miehleketobaloyi463]

Journalism at it best. This young man is competent and we need this professionalism to run our country. Not propaganda

[@theboomletgroup8436]

Ramaphosa's government must be held for Treason for how they treated this guy honestly

[@Zam-mi9wz]

You are 100% correct. The only way that can be done is to remove the ANC and keep the EFF far from power, then Ramaphosa may face his crimes together with Zuma and Malema for the 15 wasted years ( and all their corrupt cde's). Malema for bringing the Limpopo provincial government down. Otherwise, if the EFF comes to power it will protect the ANC, the same way the ANC has protected him with his tax issues.

[@njabulomsweli5057]

Ungena ngani Zuma wat did he do? U are so disappointing even now u still c him guilty even court's still can't find a single thing to pin him down unlike the person which y'all thot was going to be your saints 😂😂😂" Phala phala" Dollars are still not answered

[@afrimedia5897]

​@@Zam-mi9wzyou were coming right until you mentioned Malema and EFF. EFF must come to power for this nonsense to come to an end. There's no any other political party that has a capacity to can solve this nonsense other than EFF

[@auddymtembi4333]

Not only how they treated this man, but also how they treated the whole country by plunging us into loadshedding.

[@emmatsebe1468]

Ramaphosa reversed everything back to "them"😭😭😭

[@ebenezermissiontv]

This was fantastic interview Sizwe. I was captured by the way Mr Koko speaks. And for a change, it was nice to listen to someone who speaks clearly whether I believe that he not involved in state capture or not but I am impressed the way he addressed every point you have raised. Well done Sizwe. 👏

[@_SMWX]

Thanks

[@jonathanmbonde4471]

what a gem of a man and proffessional of the highest intellectual calibre

[@sizwenkosi8882]

Power generation genius Koko very much knowledgeable man

[@menzimngadi6793]

Been following this man throught desk search. He is big time

[@SydneyD28-6]

Cyril should be arrested for treason

[@sikhumbuzolukashe4431]

i agree

[@makhanyikubheka2207]

​@@sikhumbuzolukashe4431Can't wait

[@Nqobie1]

100%

[@gasisa78]

Not only him but Motsepe & Jamnundus

[@lwazimjiyako8763]

njee...

[@mnqobimhlongo6291]

I hit the like button 5 seconds into the the video because I knew 💣 were about to be dropped by this unfairly sidelined brilliant engineer... Thanks Sizwe for hosting Mr Koko...

[@asandalamba7055]

That was refreshing and we definitely need part 2. Ayeye

[@barukyahuah7056]

I wish EFF to win elections and bring this man and Brian Molefe back to re-run Eskom and deal with load shedding.

[@em_oh_why_oh]

Barak Yahuah indeed if that happens

[@theboomletgroup8436]

Spot on

[@mbusosiera1648]

The majority South Africans still love their country and want it to work for all South Africans!

[@brianclement2329]

They will just stop maintaining the power plants and run at full capacity like they did previously. Then run diesel peaking plants as baseload generation which is one of the reasons our electricity has become so expensive. And then there's the Zondo report which, I presume, you choose to ignore. Molefe broke down in tears when admitting corruption, as I recall

[@thembanimgenu190]

The most the Eff can get is 20%

[@louismzobe3073]

I dont know how how many times Ive listened to this content. It's like music in my ears,just like listening to classical Yanni. Absolutely an epitome of seasoned choreograph. Thank you

[@thamsanqavilakazi8219]

Wow it took me a while to watch as I was a bit sceptical, but I must say what an insightful conversation. Thank you SMWX for providing such unbiased coverage. Wish we had more content like this in the main stream media.

[@mkhululi76]

Thanks for the chat Koko. Gives us loads of perspective on ANC mismanagement of Eskom.

[@bonginkosintuli4560]

what a beautiful, informative interview. I was glued to y screen the whole time. Thank you

[@zwelinkosi1130]

Thank God I didn't watch this in the morning, it's definitely what I needed to get through loadshedding 😂

[@SabeloMbakaza]

i always watch this show..thanks for bringing Mr Koko

[@Nqobie1]

Ramaphosa removed Koko and Brian (these two professionals ended load shedding) because his American overlords told him to. We are now in the worst load shedding crisis ever, and our best coal is headed overseas. Cyril and his brother in law have signed SA away to the wolves, the next 5 years are about to be the most brutal. Get ready and prepare.

[@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl]

Cyril is a real corrupt mafia...he can't concentrate if he thinks of putting more 💰 in his possession. INTO THIS WORLD YOU COME NAKED AND WITH NOTHING 😢😢AND YOU WILL LEAVE THIS WORLD WITH NOTHING 🙏🙌

[@86mazet]

Wabona Ramaphosa le Swaar, Don't give a damn about mzansi. And this really affects Black people predominantly

[@ThulisaRuneyi]

Thank you Sizwe for bringing the big man. I am also looking foward at listening to Dali when you do bring him

[@_SMWX]

Coming soon. 😁

[@libumbelufundo6118]

Fascinating interview 👌🏿.

[@sikhumbuzolukashe4431]

Adv Sikhakhane told Zondo about these reviews. They did not listen

[@lwazimjiyako8763]

Captured Zondo...

[@mfanakithi2002]

He really seems to know and understands engineering

[@bonganimbelekana3029]

Mr. Koko knows what he’s talking about. Very educated engineer

[@neommutle8033]

Dr Sizwe you are forcing us to think 🤔 deeply. I couldn't watch at 9:00 because we had loadshedding 9:00 to 11:00 , the irony 🙄 of it all. We need a thinking nation to digest such. ❤ keep up the good work 👏

[@lancencube5205]

Am proud of this african son

[@winstonphilander1731]

The interview was powerful and so informative, thanx Mr. Koko and SMWX team

[@sifisomhlanga62]

Yessesss What an interview. Sir sorry you have to go through this nonsense. May God bless you. Thanx Sizwe for bringing this gentleman. Salute 🙏🫡

[@user-uv8ee2pd2y]

The man knows his work, I wish the new government can use his expertise, it's sad that the media killed his reputation

[@leratomrali6964]

Dr we should be paying big money you for this type of knowledge shared here, I have listened to Mr Koko on all so called state capture enquiry and he put me on game back then already.

[@BJ-eg6gr]

Oh nice one. I'm looking forward to this one. Fireworks💥💫 😄 The guy knows his story

[@svgs7310]

Sizwe, thank you for giving this guy a platform… he sounds very knowledgeable! I really enjoyed the detail! I’m no engineer so it’s relatively easy to pull the wool over my eyes on this subject. What is indisputable though is that you allowed him to speak unimpeded!

[@Zam-mi9wz]

You don't need to be an engineer to know that Koko stopped load shedding at eskom for atleast 2 solid years. That's why you can trust what he says to be true. Further to this, you also don't need to be an engineer to know that Koko won his case against eskom in the labour court after President Ramaphosa has decided that cabinet should fire him. You also don't need to be an engineer to know that his persecution is unconstitutional. It is equivalent to the corrupt use of state resources to persecute the only solution to our problem of loadshedding so that Ramaphosa can keep benefitting through companies in which he has shares in. If Koko is guilty of any wrong doing, it certainly won't be what he is accused of because he has already been vindicated of anywrong doing against eskom in the tender of his daughter. I know we find it difficult to believe others, but at least we should believe our courts. The other thing is the presumption of innocence enshrined in our constitution. Koko is to be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Lastly, koko is no politician that he should seek to pool a wool over our eyes and he knows that there are many engineers who understands what he is saying and they will criticise ( correct) him if he is lying.

[@venussimo]

It is us who are the problem. We wake up in the morning to go and vote for this rubbish and then complain about corruption for the next 5 years. We deserve these crooks.

[@tshepopootona8369]

Great interview Sizwe. This is very insightful from Mr Koko.

[@WISEMANONCESAID191]

Woow this was a mouthful episode🤞🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@watchingforvibes]

I'm loving these interviews, we get to hear each person's side of the story. However, at some point things must converge to a degree where we can say what is closest to the truth. I think everyone can tell a good story and paint a nice picture, but who do we believe the most and what is the measure for that? Keep it coming, Sizwe.

[@thulasnkosi9641]

Long awaited Mr Koko's side of the story , thank you Sizwe now we know why we having loadshedding and how we must vote next year.😮

[@gloriaciliwe6762]

What an interesting lecture. Great!!

[@tshepomalebo3737]

This man needs to be brought back. Unless the government doesn't want to stop loadshedding.

[@bisabop976]

Looking forward to that part 2, ayeye!

[@thatolegodi2971]

I take my Hat off 🙌🙌 this is pure excellence, its sad that we are led by such inferiority.

[@zunabukosi9679]

Wow. Eye opening interview! Please invite Judge President John Hlope.

[@user-is4bj6zl5q]

Yes Yes and Yes indeed! There'll be more that's so crucial for us to know from that judge as well! Please

[@Kha.lufuno]

This interview was as good as reading a Koko book, well done SMWX.

[@lebomokoallo6869]

Thank You, I enjoyed this interview so much

[@emmanuelshangase6790]

Sizwe , thank you once again for this interview....it left me emotionally paralyzed in a sense that what Mr Koko is saying, we shouldn't be having this loadshedding. we as people always claim that there are two sides of the story ..I still don't understand why this gentleman was removed from Eskom and what was this corruption saga if the NPA couldn't find prosecute him