Jacob Zuma (Interview): "Plot to Remove Me" | ANC History | State Capture

In this exclusive interview, Sizwe spoke to former president Jacob Zuma in the week of his testimony at the State Capture Commission. They discussed Zuma's time on Robben Island, the claims of a conspiracy to remove Zuma from his position of Chief of Intelligence on the ANC, and the impact of his opening statement at the State Capture Commission.
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CONTENTS
00:00 Intro
01:00 Joining Twitter
02:30 Stories of apartheid
03:16 Robben Island
05:28 Mandela & Robben Island
09:17 "Plot to remove me"
18:33 Removal as Chief of Intelligence
27:12 Cyril Ramaphosa
30:02 Infiltration of ANC
33:31 Becoming National Chairperson of ANC
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[@lebyanak]

Non- biased journalism. The world needs this right now. Great work Sizwe. 100% behind you brother.

[@contranuat]

eeek .... I want to say so much

[@woggles8100]

He went from Robben islands, to robben a country

[@tuladlamini2549]

Let the youth dig their own truth...

[@jacquesmarais1201]

@@woggles8100 True words spoken.

[@jacquesmarais1201]

@@contranuat Sadly it will make no difference.

[@josiasmahlangu6736]

Mr Jacob Zuma a stalwart in the South African Politics. Siyabonga Msholozi big up to what you do for the South African Citizens.

[@rendaninevhulaudzi1092]

True journalism. Seeking the truth not seeking an expected outcome. Keep up the good work.

[@ddmaps3979]

Hey that cough

[@professor_mnwanati]

The presenter seeks the truth but that does not really mean he will find the truth because Msholozi is smart

[@Siyamthanda123]

Now this is the type of media we need. Non-biased, fair and straight to the point, clearly something these media houses don't have. Good one Sizwe!

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Ayeye!

[@siphomosea4138]

True I think some of the media they must get vaccine the they will change the way the report news

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[@SabeloMbakaza]

After this interview i can say i now understand President Zuma

[@realBubeleM]

Yooo sad. It took you this long to understand Pres Zuma?

[@mphilisenisithole1508]

The questioning by my brother Sizwe is spot on. Quality journalism is what you get through the interview.

[@professor_mnwanati]

There is a difference between Quality Journalism and Quantity Journalism.

[@mphophalala8254]

Baba may God bless n keep u,to open the eyes of many who misunderstood you❤

[@jkbbotswana5003]

What a wealth of history we were not privy to, thanks for sharing!

[@sicelogumede1059]

It just shows that we don't have independent journalism is SA. Well done Sizwe, took me so many years to be empowered so much because of bias journalism. Well done my brother

[@andamzayiya7033]

This is by far the best interview I've seen in a long while 😍💗💙🖤💜🧡... I learnt a lot about Zuma the man beyond the his portrayal in the media... I understand him more... Great work Sizwe keep at it, we're following 😍😍😍

[@tshepangrakalemakou7884]

Well said

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Thanks!

[@khumbulanikhumalo9341]

😂😂Vuk 9kji

[@nenesibanda4171]

I admire history that is told by Africans. Possibly no fabrications and so much emotion involved as it is the truth that comes from one's subconscious mind. Very informative and fascinating interview.

[@thekothamaga9970]

Though it was 3 years ago, I just want to comment Bro Sizwe for such a candid and thoughtful interview with one of the most hated yet strong, gentle and wise man. If you are wise there is no way you can see a fool out of this Leader, cadre and the president

[@JabulaniMsimanga]

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[@lionelkhoza40]

Great interview as always Sizwe. Very calm, friendly and non aggressive. The current and next generation of journalists need to learn from this.

[@philadube1394]

Most journalists are biased and feed us propaganda hence I no longer follow most news channels, I did not trust you either when I saw your advert on twitter until I watched this interview. I must commend you for the professional manner you have handled this interview. You are very respectful, diplomatic, independent and open minded. I am sure most of the politicians will be comfortable to accept your invite. In the current political climate, let the journalists be independent and let the masses be the judges on matters affecting the country which can influence us to make informed decisions when going to national or local elections.

[@afrikaubuntu3383]

Funda nawa amaqiniso ku Nxamalala kzbin.info/www/bejne/qom8dKubhs2YjtU Mr Jacob Zuma loves truths that is why Ramaphosa paid Zondo R50 000 000 Rands to put Mr Jacob Zuma in jail Am sure they planning how are they going to kill Mr Jacob Zuma as they don't want people to be free by Mr Zuma's truths U ramaphosa unendaba nokwenza inzuzo /profits akanandaba nabantu ikakhulukazi abansundu kuyasho ukuthi wavotelwa i ANC leaders kuphela futhi ngoba babe thengiwe ngezimali zamabhunu angama business partners akhe u Cyril Ramaphosa, ingakho nje esidayisa kangaka esifakela nesonto lika sathane ufuna sisonte naye shame lobaba akalungile nhlobo manje unikeza abantu i vaccine ngenkani ngeziphansi kwaze kwanzima kulelizwe ngenxa ya Cyril Ramaphosa nje ne WHO ebathengile Ubaba uJ Zuma wayinqaba i corona virus njenge Ebola bamkhipha ephalamende engakaqedi iminyaka yakhe kzbin.info/www/bejne/qom8dKubhs2YjtU

[@apostlegoodman6797]

Wow this is good for the generation. I had been lied to so many years by the Media 🏠. Indeed, no one can bury the truth, for it shall surely sprout out. Thanks Sizwe

[@hannielutch8601]

I love u H.E Jacob Zuma god should protect u dear,u are true an African patriotic not those hypocrites and greedy politicians

[@shkhambule]

Well conducted interview. There's also a level of intellect from your side Sizwe, pls also teach the young stars. This is the content we sign up for, great work! Keep it up👌🏾🙌🏾

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Thanks for watching. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. More interviews here: kzbin.info/aero/PLElMlY-u7QWsygRJ9Y4utsimtnlM4V4fb

[@user-hk3vk1pl5n]

+ a respectful Guy ... WELL DONE Dali and Theresa 🥰

[@marabunya]

It was always suspicious that Ramaphosa somehow managed to rise to the top of ANC decision-making structures without having any "struggle credentials."

[@IAmCruz100]

Only seeing this video in 2023 good interview 👍 If only more South Africans would listen and hear Jacob Zuma speak. We should connect the dots as he said. But @least now we know who the pimpi's are.. it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

[@theotick]

This interview is a gem, Give thanks 🙏 Sizwe

[@Go_Nkosi]

Wow! we still have journalists who are not biased on this country 🙆‍♂️ This interview it unbelievable

[@princemonareng7838]

Baba❤

[@zamammsani2077]

Absolutely fantastic interview,so refreshing to hear the FP expressing himself relaxed in an unbias line of questioning from you Sizwe welldone.I'm looking forward for part 2.

[@unathitwala613]

The best of this channel is certainly yet to come, Sizwe :). I am certain!

[@sydneythobejane1214]

This is very patient, he gives you all the time you require to express or explain or respond to a question....

[@nockygee9748]

How refreshing, I’m so glad I read the book “kill Zumba” all of this is making sense. Thanks for providing Baba Msholozi with a platform to express his views we as the young generation need to know what happened so that we see past this dream of a rainbow nation that we have been sold.

[@siyamcelabewana6099]

Sizwe we as the citizens of this country are hungry for an alternative voice please lead the way.

[@summerwilliams3659]

Sizwe this is great content. You really need to do Part 2 with the former president. I was not ready for the conclusion of this interview.

[@mathabajorge825]

You did a great job here. Well Done Sir

[@thamsanqanzama5124]

the sensible urgency of technology and recordings will long serve human kind well. thank you for taking much effort and purpose of recording such an informative and detailed interview . Thank you , May you forward in all your aspirations and conquests . God bless .

[@tommyshuta3452]

I love the angle of this interview and quality of production. Great work!

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

🙏🏽

[@Sburero]

This is a breath of fresh air, I'm following and I am sharing on social media... We need this to reach everyone who will listen so that we make up our own minds and not be played

[@siphosiphi5414]

U such as a motivation to us young people bhuti Sizwe for pushing excellence in ur work and ur team u excellence is contagious as it being of to me enkosi bhuti

[@samkelisotngozo65]

I recently started watching these interviews and my worldview on South African politics is taking a 360 degree turn_

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Thanks, Samkeliso. Keep watching and don’t forget to subscribe. More coming your way in 2021!

[@caesar3909]

the fact that you cannot find such Journalism on ENCA, SABC and Newzroom Africa speaks volumes

[@molemocreatives]

An amazing platform that has enlightened or rather enhanced my understanding of politics , media at an international level , Thank you Dr Sizwe

[@zamokuhlevilane5259]

Great interview

[@sakhamenmhlongo281]

Unbiased Journalism.... Officially subscribed Sizwe.

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Sakhamen Mhlongo Thanks!

[@mdupaxmpofu1207]

It is now clear that the sole reason why Mandela opted to be deputised by Mbeki but not Ramaphosa was because he knew that Ramaphosa was a spy.

[@JoziTube]

He left the organization after that incident, why? And then he was funded by whites to start businesses, why????? What did they owe him????

[@mdupaxmpofu1207]

@@JoziTube good question.

[@sibusisosgwane2820]

I love it. Great work Sizwe. This is very informative. I wish all young South Africans can know this great history. Keep up the great work.

[@makwenabuthane]

Wow im super proud of your work @Walsh, the quality of your content and also the visual damn #Applaudable😍

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Ayeye!

[@nhlanlashabangu5888]

Sterling work from you & your team Sizwe.

[@jeremylinah8078]

Ilove yo curtains very fullof african culture they are very pretty

[@jeremylinah8078]

Yuneed arecliner sofas mdala

[@kagisomaseeme5140]

Breathe of fresh air. Keep up the good work Sizwe

[@ExileLBL]

Very calm interview. Your ex-president seemed like sympathic guy. But I dont know much bout him. Greetings from Czechia :)

[@redeemablesoul]

Im happy that he is telling his side...i really hoped this interview to be longer....Zuma should open his own youtube channel to speak his truth.

[@mthunzitiger7586]

His truth 🤣🤣

[@godfreykhumalo5175]

What Exactly does Zuma have for Whites that they want him dead, in jail, and all bad things they wish him...

[@gracesimelane3567]

I second you Redeemable ,

[@gracesimelane3567]

The true history of the black people Mr Godfrey

[@sebezondi8806]

​@@godfreykhumalo5175 He never sold black people for money thats the only reason

[@ViweQuza]

These interview is DEEP!

[@Architivist_]

You r the future. U seem to have a clear cut vision of where you r heading. Awesome work.very original, objective and unbiased journalism

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

Keep on rocking Son of the Soil! Great job👊🏿

[@JOBEEHUSTLER]

Big Respect for doing this. I respect his Honorable very much. I honour the fact that everything he's ever done was for the interest of our country & nation as a whole.

[@bridneykgaphola3855]

Thank you Sizwe this is pure Dali gave us a force

[@paulitumelengmphambani1960]

Eye opening to listen and watch this video... Ndabulela Sir, keep them coming

[@francisplatt93]

Sizwe, I like what you are doing and appreciate the conversational interview, and the tone you set is relaxing. Jacob Zuma is actually a very warm person. I have a twin brother who was having breakfast at a hotel in Richards Bay and walked past Mr Zuma's table. Mr Zuma called him over, he shuffled past all his body guards, and he shook his hand and greeted him in a very friendly way and asked few things. When he told me I thought that was just great

[@wonderboymkhize2756]

Sizwe am behind you i like your style .....great journalism big up

[@maxwelnozibele4156]

Great interview Sizwe.

[@vovobani1708]

Super impressed with your work, watched your interview with you dad and the one with adv Skhakhane. great work.

[@matometrevor2916]

SMWX is the best thing that ever happened in journalism, thank you for your interview. I'm impressed.

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

MATOME TREVOR 🙏🏽

[@heavenlydeepsa9847]

Now, this is what we needed all along congratulations job well done my brother.

[@tsheposako6080]

Explosive stuff, we are connecting the dots indeed

[@thulanibuthelezi2013]

Thank you Sizwe and the Team great work.

[@gawiekeyser4972]

Brilliant journalist! Well done!

[@josuandaendenanye7433]

Am very sorry Baba Zuma ,I have had a bad picture of you. The media participated largely in tarnishing your image. I fully understand why you are being persecuted. As a Nigerian writer writes "The danger of single stories." I was cajoled by media to believe what I heard bit now am fit to have different views about u.

[@reeyravana5771]

✊✊✊

[@LukheleSipho]

Chimamanda!

[@user-bv6vb1nk5i]

Kindly bring him before elections Doc, Ace Magashule as well.

[@praisebotha5123]

always love your work Sizwe, your muisic, your book and your posts............

[@nathanielhenderson3487]

This was brilliant, I can't wait for part 2 #Ayeye

[@kayanyembezi4003]

I keep watching this interview and every time I am hearing something I missed. This man will be vindicated. Good work Sizwe chap..

[@remotrent7756]

History will be kinder to him!

[@fido5067]

You deluded if you think he's innocent, this man would literally throw you in front of a.moving train to save himself. Literally.

[@Isilosamabandla]

It is really nice to see a platform that tries its best to be objective.

[@malusilinganiso3862]

It would be very interesting to see your genius analysis of marikana, money given to ramaphala to campaign and mattress dollars at phalaphala farm.

[@hectormoloko8390]

Fantastic journalist Sizwe, keep it real bud..

[@footballhighlights.5456]

I've been watching your videos from back then and I'm impressed 🙌🏿💯

[@sfundomkhize8873]

Oooh my god that laugh 🙏😇😊 I love you Baba you are my role model

[@sfundodlamini9850]

No man your work is touching braa... Keep it up my man...

[@didierliango6402]

I like Zuma humility

[@evansakwa116]

Thank you for this interview. The best thing that happened to one of most respected ,former president Zuma is his appearance in the so called state capture commission to tell his side of story.

[@malikamakwange5982]

I'm very proud of you son and keep up the good work.

[@Jessmetmeister]

Aweh. Clear and unwavering line of non biased questioning 👌(how your guests answer is up to them 😅) thank you for holding this platform.

[@stanchauke7332]

You must thank Julius.I think you and Julius you will make a good team.

[@nomanowases3975]

Brother this is a great thing you have done...

[@user-jc4lp9dl1h]

We must get more and more of this kind of totally independant media . People must be given proper news so that they take independant views .

[@senzonxumalo8029]

Thanks Young man public need to know about our history

[@francemakobe2905]

I love your interview skill top notch keep up the good work

[@Haosqy]

I still remember this interview like it was yesterday

[@Maknizer]

This man has wisdom...censorship is a major issiue in the media, even wat He is saying in this videos is blown out of propotion

[@sizwenyembe2303]

Former chief negotiator Mbeki was replaced by current president Ramaphosa, and former chief of intelligence Zuma was replaced by COPE leader Lekota. Okay fine, Cde Zuma during his presidency appointment Cde Ramatlhodi as minister of mineral resources and in his second term invited current president Cde Ramaphosa to deputise him. Cde Ramaphosa was all over throughout the second term defending Cde Zuma until it become apparent that Cde Zuma had ordained his ex wife Cde Dlamini-Zuma to be his successor. Before current president Cde Ramaphosa became the deputy president to Cde Zuma, Cde Zuma appointed him as head of the national planning commission which drafted the National Development Plan (NDP), which Cde Zuma endorsed. It really doesn't make sense to me why Cde Zuma would give so much responsibility to these comrades when he had these kind of suspicions or information about them when there are many other capable comrades in the ANC?

[@akshaynarshi827]

sizwe nyembe So is Cyril bad or good

[@cnmaseko]

True... I dont believe a word he says. Hes just out to confuse us. To cover up all hes really done.

[@siyabongamzimela7931]

Other decisions are taken by a collective in the ANC especially when it comes to the cabinet...with the issue of Ramaphosa being invited by Zuma to be a deputy President of the state it was based on the fact that he was an automatic choice as the deputy president of the ANC and him being the deputy president of the ANC he was not Zuma's choice but SACP and COSATU suggested him as plan B after plans to get Kgalema to deputise Zuma failed because ANCYL fooled him into believing that he can contest Zuma and win in Mangaung and that is how CR came back by default

[@bhekokwakhewisemannxumalo7577]

Good interview mtaka mzala, can u teach other journalists that's how to interview a person. Giving an interviewee a chance to explain or narrate. Ur skills n humbleness will take u places n I guarantee u a successful carrier.

[@beckyphala5436]

Sizwe is brilliant 👑👏

[@mdupaxmpofu1207]

Very Awesome Sizwe!

[@clementzikhali3074]

waw this is good time for me listning this interview of a former president Jz to its blessing thank you

[@anelemtiki6032]

congratulations Sizwe

[@vuyolomziathi-philasidloyi947]

Great job Mate - very chilled conversation(free flowing and doesn't come across as an interview).

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Phila Sidloyi 🙌🏽

[@asakhaqokoyi4938]

We really need people like you man keep on doing good work make us proud

[@vusiemadlala-shezi2746]

Wow Sizwe, good work mfana ka Chairperson, non bias journalist... 😍😍

[@tulifranz9336]

No wonder Mr Lekota in the land debate had a question " who are our people?" where Mr Malema told him off. He also accused the current president as a spy.

[@sicebi7]

In my opinion I recall Ramaphosa cleared out the accusations on being spy, he stood up and spoke the history on what happened, after that both lekota and malema kept quiet and never raise that spy concern again. I'm said to be corrected.

[@kingsleyoppong-wereko7239]

@@sicebi7 him saying with his mouth doesn’t mean he isn’t.

[@buyiswanogcantsi406]

@@sicebi7 that is true; Lekota was proven to be lying by Dr. Motsoaledi whoa was a student that time too . Seemingly Lekota came to address students of tgat time and told them that he was sent by OR Tambo that there is no Ramaphosa that had sold out but a propaganda to cause them to fight one another but had changed that day hence he was asked as to which one of his statements is true and he got embarrassed and didn’t answer. By this - I do not dispute facts that can be brought up about a Cyril being a sell out but this one of Lekota didn’t hold on that very same day he said it.

[@snakhokonkebuthelezi2959]

You just got yourself a new subscriber. I feel I'm a bit late to the party😅, but I appreciate your unbiased journalism, its very refreshing.

[@khangaleanthonymakhado3083]

Zuma is a seasonal psychological liar, he never lead the intelligence of the ANC. Is a big lie that he turned to believe it himself and he fail to prove it. Zuma has a problem of projecting himself as an illiterate irreplaceable soul of the ANC.

[@olemontana5957]

Great insight on truth and current leadership position results and how it led to the recent regime . Though you can actually see the former president is thoroughly coughing but masking it with a throat clear me constantly has he’s hand on hes mouth I hope he gets better

[@LillianMofokeng-ec8rs]

This is nice of the old man smiling even though the is painful words from those who plan to destroy him ,,,,,, smile is always with him

[@kingsleykonyana6698]

Big up my brother for great work 🤞👌🙌

[@seragekgosietsile2510]

Guys can we connect the dots one more time. Mr lekota replaced zuma as chief of intelligence and recently there are claims that he is working with Afriforum which belongs to the afrikaner broederbond. this is really intresting

[@Mtshali3]

True alternative voice. Great work man 💪🏿👌

[@tebogotlhale6844]

Good journalism right here. Ayeye

[@markgamanya7983]

When is part 2? I have watched an archival interview of him a few years after he left Robben Island. His story seems coherent. It opens one's eyes to how governments are structured and operate in Africa.

[@Mkhonyovu]

I will like to watch that interview

[@siviwecharlesjongile8662]

This is good... uncensored